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  • Reading Quran And Inquiring in to Prophet Muhammad's Life from Quran
     Reply #270 - June 17, 2020, 04:01 PM

    well the goal of writing this folder and reading Quran every verse of the book is to Inquire Prophet Muhammad's Life   from it and also basic ideology of Quran  and the purpose of its alleged revelation/publication.,  This what our friend Altara names it as Core text of Quran

    ..................................Syriac Alexander legend can be a later insertion or not. It as no incidence on the core text of the Quran in the 6/7th c. Would it be absent, it'd change what? Nothing.......................

    anyways  let me read surah  Luqman again by cutting in to pieces .. the way I often do/did to many chapters of Quran even in this folder .. what I call as Poetic verses or songs/sonnets from Quran..


    here we go
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    Alif Lam Mim.
    These are verses of the Book of Wisdom
    A guidance and a mercy for the doers of goodness,
    Those who keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and they are certain of the hereafter.
    These are on a guidance from their Lord, and these are they who are successful:
    And of men is he who takes instead frivolous discourse to lead astray from Allah's path without knowledge,
    and to take it for a mockery;
    these shall have an abasing chastisement.


    well that is a good poem and it contains 1st 6 verses of surah_Luqman.,  in fact you can add that sonnet to EVERY FAITH BOOK .. it fits perfectly fits well in to any faith/faith book that you have on this earth.. So I will make all those 34 verses in to some sort of sonnets in this post

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    Verses-7-11

       And when Our communications are recited to him, he turns back proudly, as if he had not heard them, as though in his ears were a heaviness, therefore announce to him a painful chastisement.

        those who believe and do good, they shall surely have gardens of bliss,

       Abiding in them; the promise of Allah;  true, and He is the Mighty, the Wise.

        He created the heavens without pillars as you see them, and put mountains upon the earth lest it might convulse with you, and He spread in it animals of every kind; and We sent down water from the cloud, then caused to grow there in  of every noble kind.

       This is Allah's creation, but show Me what those besides Him have created. Nay, the unjust are in manifest error

    well we could make fairly good sonnet out of those 7-11 verses., but not sure WHO THAT "HE"   in that verse 7.. Heeee.. The BIG HE...  in the verse 10     created this .. created that.. created everything is  irrelevant .......anyway good poem..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Reading Quran And Inquiring in to Prophet Muhammad's Life from Quran
     Reply #271 - July 18, 2020, 01:49 PM

    So   surah_57.. or Surah-31 of the book and that is Surah_" Luqman"    we are reading..
    well it just as 34 verses.. sounds like nice sonnet .. but let me read it carefully

     So we are dealing with Surah_" Luqman"  .....

    and  that is what I said about that Surah_57/surah_31/ Surah_" Luqman"  on june17 2020.,   indeed Reading that surah again and again tells me that it is one of best surahs of Quran ..

    what does it tell us?? .. first 12 verses in the above post i made nice sonnets ...  and rest of the surah ., that is verses  12 to 34 deals with  story of  Luqman and his son., it tells nothing about Prophet of Islam Muhammad...  so let us read those verses again from 12-34 ..  all 22  verses  deals with the story and  and  also  let us get the story of Luqman from other Abrahamic faith books  to figure out what new revelation is added in Quran through allegd Prophet of  Islam .. Muhammad..  well the least if I can not find anything new  .. I can make some songs and sonnets out of it

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     12.   And certainly We gave wisdom to Luqman, saying: Be grateful to Allah. And whoever is grateful, he is only grateful for his own soul; and whoever is ungrateful, then surely Allah is  Self-sufficient, Praised.

    And when Luqman said to his son while he admonished him: O my son! do not associate aught with Allah; most surely polytheism is a grievous iniquity--

    And We have enjoined man in respect of his parents-- his mother bears him with faintings upon faintings and his weaning takes two years--  saying: Be grateful to Me and to both your parents; to Me is the eventual coming.

    And if they contend with you that you should associate with Me what you have no knowledge of, do not obey them, and keep company with them in this world kindly, and follow the way of him who turns to Me, then to Me is your return, then will I inform you of what you did--

    O my son! surely if it is the very weight of the grain of a mustard-seed, even though it is in (the heart of) rock, or (high above) in the heaven or (deep down) in the earth, Allah will bring it (to light); surely Allah is Knower of subtleties, Aware;

      O my son! keep up prayer and enjoin the good and forbid the evil, and bear patiently that which befalls you; surely these acts require courage;

     And do not turn your face away from people in contempt, nor go about in the land exulting overmuch; surely Allah does not love any self-conceited boaster;

    And pursue the right course in your going about and lower your voice; surely the most hateful of voices is braying of the asses.

     Do you not see that Allah has made what is in the heavens and what is in the earth subservient to you, and made complete to you His favors outwardly and inwardly? And among men is he who disputes in respect of Allah though having no knowledge nor guidance, nor a book giving light.
     


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    21.   And when it is said to them: Follow what Allah has revealed, they say: Nay, we follow that on which we found our fathers. What! though the Shaitan calls them to the chastisement of the burning fire!

     And whoever submits himself wholly to Allah and he is the doer of good (to others), he indeed has taken hold of the firmest thing upon which one can lay hold; and Allah's is the end of affairs.

    And whoever disbelieves, let not his disbelief grieve you; to Us is their return, then will We inform them of what they did surely Allah is the Knower of what is in the breasts.

     We give them to enjoy a little, then will We drive them to a severe chastisement.

    25.   And if you ask them who created the heavens and the earth, they will certainly say: Allah. Say: (All) praise is due to Allah; nay! most of them do not know.


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    26.   What is in the heavens and the earth is Allah's; surely Allah is the Self-sufficient, the Praised.

    And were every tree that is in the earth (made into) pens and the sea (to supply it with ink), with seven more seas to increase it, the words of Allah would not come to an end; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.

    Neither your creation nor your raising is anything but as a single soul; surely Allah is Hearing, Seeing.

     Do you not see that Allah makes the night to enter into the day, and He makes the day to enter into the night, and He has made the sun and the moon subservient (to you); each pursues its course till an appointed time; and that Allah is Aware of what you do?

     This is because Allah is the Truth, and that which they call upon besides Him is the falsehood, and that Allah is the High, the Great.

     Do you not see that the ships run on in the sea by Allah's favor that He may show you of His signs? Most surely there are signs in this for every patient endurer, grateful one.

     And when a wave like mountains covers them they call upon Allah, being sincere to Him in obedience, but when He brings them safe to the land, some of them follow the middle course; and none denies Our signs but every perfidious, ungrateful one.

    O people! guard against (the punishment of)  your Lord and dread the day when a father shall not make any satisfaction for his son, nor shall the child be the maker of any satisfaction for his father; surely the promise of Allah is true, therefore let not this world's life deceive you, nor let the arch deceiver deceive you in respect of Allah.

    34.   Surely Allah is He with Whom is the knowledge of the hour, and He sends down the rain and He knows what is in the wombs; and no one knows what he shall earn on the morrow; and no one knows in what land he shall die; surely Allah is Knowing, Aware.
     



    So out of that Surah-31 we can make some 5 nice  little sonnets/songs/stories .. The theme of the surah is same... as many other surahs of Quran  which are also songs ..sonnets and stories that were around the Arabian desert...

    So who is "Luqman" and what is his story?? well for that we need to read other religious books/stories.. Quran  talks in riddles/parables .. it does not tell complete story... well let us read that from different book/s  but before that we will read next surah to figure out whether we can see anything on Prophet of Islam Muhammad........ and that is  Surah_58   in revelation order and aka surah_ 34  in bookish order and the name is Surah_ Saba with some  54  verses

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Reading Quran And Inquiring in to Prophet Muhammad's Life from Quran
     Reply #272 - August 01, 2020, 04:33 PM

    well Eid is over.. food is still in stomach.. so let me read Quran to digest it., .. in the last post on surah_57.. or Surah-31 of the book and that is Surah_" Luqman" I said 
    So Surah-31  we are dealing with Surah_" Luqman"  .....

    ..........................

    ..So who is "Luqman" and what is his story?? well for that we need to read other religious books/stories.. Quran  talks in riddles/parables .. it does not tell complete story.................

    So who is "Luqman"  Surah-31??

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    Mohammed Khaku, writes in Morning Call  on The story of Luqman and his advice for fathers ** FAITH & VALUES     

    The most interesting chapter in Quran is the story of Luqman. Luqman is great-grandfather of Prophet Abraham, who lived 500 years; he was a carpenter, tailor, shepherd and judge. He was asked by God to choose between prophecy and wisdom, but he chose wisdom.


    So  Luqman is great-grandfather of Prophet Abraham, .......................  well  that put me off learning about Laqman better go and read next surah and that is  surah_58 revelation order .. or Surah-34 of the book and that is Surah_"Saba"   ., well there are 54 verses in it.. let me read on the way let me also edit the post..


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    1.    (All) praise is due to Allah, Whose is what is in the heavens and what is in the earth, and to Him is due (all) praise in the hereafter; and He is the Wise, the Aware.

    2.    He knows that which goes down into the earth and that which comes out of it, and that which comes down from the heaven and that which goes up to it; and He is the Merciful, the Forgiving.

    3.    And those who disbelieve say: The hour shall not come upon us. Say: Yea! by my Lord, the Knower of the unseen, it shall certainly come upon you; not the weight of an atom becomes absent from Him, in the heavens or in the earth, and neither less than that nor greater, but (all) is in a clear book

    4.    That He may reward those who believe and do good; these it is for whom is forgiveness and an honorable sustenance.

    5.    And (as for) those who strive hard in opposing Our communications, these it is for whom is a painful chastisement of an evil kind.

    6.    And those to whom the knowledge has been given see that which has been revealed to you from your Lord, that is the truth, and it guides into the path of the Mighty, the Praised.

    7.    And those who disbelieve say: Shall we point out to you a man who informs you that when you are scattered the utmost scattering you shall then be most surely (raised) in (to) a new creation?

    8.   He has forged a lie against Allah or there is madness in him. Nay! those who do not believe in the hereafter are in torment and in great error.

    9.   Do they not then consider what is before them and what is behind them of the heaven and the earth? If We please We will make them disappear in the land or bring down upon them a portion from the heaven; most surely there is a sign in this for every servant turning (to Allah).

    10.   And certainly We gave to Dawood excellence from Us: O mountains! sing praises with him, and the birds; and We made the iron pliant to him,

    11.   Saying: Make ample (coats of mail), and assign a time to the making of coats of mail and do good; surely I am Seeing what you do.

    12.   And (We made) the wind (subservient) to Sulaiman, which made a month's journey in the morning and a month's journey in the evening, and We made a fountain of molten copper to flow out for him, and of the jinn there were those who worked before him by the command of his Lord; and whoever turned aside from Our command from among them, We made him taste of the punishment of burning.

    13.   They made for him what he pleased of fortresses and images, and bowls (large) as watering-troughs and cooking-pots that will not move from their place; give thanks, O family of Dawood! and very few of My servants are grateful.

    14.   But when We decreed death for him, naught showed them his death but a creature of the earth that ate away his staff; and when it fell down, the jinn came to know plainly that if they had known the unseen, they would not have tarried in abasing torment.

    15.   Certainly there was a sign for Saba in their abode; two gardens on the right and the left; eat of the sustenance of your Lord and give thanks to Him: a good land and a Forgiving Lord!

    16.   But they turned aside, so We sent upon them a torrent of which the rush could not be withstood, and in place of their two gardens We gave to them two gardens yielding bitter fruit and (growing) tamarisk and a few lote-trees.

    17.   This We requited them with because they disbelieved; and We do not punish any but the ungrateful.

    18.   And We made between them and the towns which We had blessed (other) towns to be easily seen, and We apportioned the journey therein: Travel through them nights and days, secure.

    19.   And they said: O our Lord! make spaces to be longer between our journeys; and they were unjust to themselves so We made them stories and scattered them with an utter scattering; most surely there are signs in this for every patient, grateful one

    20.   And certainly the Shaitan found true his conjecture concerning them, so they follow him, except a party of the believers.

    21.   And he has no authority over them, but that We may distinguish him who believes in the hereafter from him who is in doubt concerning it; and your Lord is the Preserver of all things

    22.   Say: Call upon those whom you assert besides Allah; they do not control the weight of an atom in the heavens or in the earth nor have they any partnership in either, nor has He among them any one to back (Him) up.

    23.   And intercession will not avail aught with Him save of him whom He permits. Until when fear shall be removed from their hearts, They shall say: What is it that your Lord said? They shall say: The truth. And He is the Most High, the Great.

    24.   Say: Who gives you the sustenance from the heavens and the earth? Say: Allah. And most surely we or you are on a right way or in manifest error

    25.   Say: You will not be questioned as to what we are guilty of, nor shall we be questioned as to what you do.

    26.   Say: Our Lord will gather us together, then will He judge between us with the truth; and He is the greatest Judge, the All-knowing.

    27.   Say: Show me those whom you have joined with Him as associates; by no means (can you do it). Nay! He is Allah, the Mighty, the Wise.

    28.   And We have not sent you but to all the men as a bearer of good news and as a warner, but most men do not know.

    29.   And they say: When will this promise be (fulfilled) if you are truthful?

    30.   Say: You have the appointment of a day from which you cannot hold back any while, nor can you bring it on.

    31.   And those who disbelieve say: By no means will we believe in this Quran, nor in that which is before it; and could you see when the unjust shall be made to stand before their Lord, bandying words one with another! Those who were reckoned weak shall say to those who were proud: Had it not been for you we would certainly have been believers.

    32.   Those who were proud shall say to those who were deemed weak: Did we turn you away from the guidance after it had come to you? Nay, you (yourselves) were guilty

    33.   And those who were deemed weak shall say to those who were proud. Nay, (it was) planning by night and day when you told us to disbelieve in Allah and to set up likes with Him. And they shall conceal regret when they shall see the punishment; and We will put shackles on the necks of those who disbelieved; they shall not be requited but what they did.

    34.   And We never sent a warner to a town but those who led lives in ease in it said: We are surely disbelievers in what you are sent with.

    35.   And they say: We have more wealth and children, and we shall not be punished.

    36.   Say: Surely my Lord amplifies the means of subsistence for whom He pleases and straitens (for whom He pleases), but most men do not know.

    37.   And not your wealth nor your children, are the things which bring you near Us in station, but whoever believes and does good, these it is for whom is a double reward for what they do, and they shall be secure in the highest places.

    38.   And (as for) those who strive in opposing Our communications, they shall be caused to be brought to the chastisement.

    39.   Say: Surely my Lord amplifies the means of subsistence for whom He pleases of His servants and straitens (them) for whom (He pleases), and whatever thing you spend, He exceeds it in reward, and He is the best of Sustainers.

    40.   And on the day when He will gather them all together, then will He say to the angels: Did these worship you?

    41.   They shall say: Glory be to Thee! Thou art our Guardian, not they; nay! they worshipped the jinn; most of them were believers in them.

    42.   So on that day one of you shall not control profit or harm for another, and We will say to those who were unjust: Taste the chastisement of the fire which you called a lie.

    43.   And when Our clear communications are recited to them, they say: This is naught but a man who desires to turn you away from that which your fathers worshipped. And they say: This is naught but a lie that is forged. And those who disbelieve say of the truth when it comes to them: This is only clear enchantment.

    44.   And We have not given them any books which they read, nor did We send to them before you a warner.

    45.   And those before them rejected (the truth), and these have not yet attained a tenth of what We gave them, but they gave the lie to My apostles, then how was the manifestation of My disapproval?

    46.   Say: I exhort you only to one thing, that rise up for Allah's sake in twos and singly, then ponder: there is no madness in your fellow-citizen; he is only a warner to you before a severe chastisement.

    47.   Say: Whatever reward I have asked of you, that is only for yourselves; my reward is only with Allah, and He is a witness of all things.

    48.   Say: Surely my Lord utters the truth, the great Knower of the unseen.

    49.   Say: The truth has come, and the falsehood shall vanish and shall not come back.

    50.   Say: If I err, I err only against my own soul, and if I follow a right direction, it is because of what my Lord reveals to me; surely He is Hearing, Nigh.

    51.   And could you see when they shall become terrified, but (then) there shall be no escape and they shall be seized upon from a near place

    52.   And they shall say: We believe in it. And how shall the attaining (of faith) be possible to them from a distant place?

    53.   And they disbelieved in it before, and they utter conjectures with regard to the unseen from a distant place.

    54.   And a barrier shall be placed between them and that which they desire, as was done with the likes of them before: surely they are in a disquieting doubt.


    well I edited the post .. and now we will read all 54 verses of that chapter to figure out whether it is  also similar to that story of "Laqman"..... The FATHER OF ABRAHAM..... imbecile stories of Islam...


    but you know we can always  write  wonderful  songs... sonnets and tell stories to children... out of Quran verses., well it appears that there is   NOTHING ABOUT LOST  PROPHET OF ISLAM .. "Muhammad" in those 54 verses of that Surah "Saba"., bet let read it again and may be make some sonnets out of it..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Reading Quran And Inquiring in to Prophet Muhammad's Life from Quran
     Reply #273 - August 02, 2020, 12:07 PM

    well So we are in Surah Saba.... our good friend  born in Central India.. died in AMRIKA writes on that surah Saba

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    Name

    The Surah takes its name from verse 15 in which the word Saba has occurred, which implies that it is the Surah in which mention has been made of Saba (i. e. the Sabaeans).

    Period of Revelation

    The exact period of its revelation is not known from any reliable tradition. However, the style shows that it is either the middle or the early Makkan period. If it is the middle period, it was probably its initial stage when the persecution had not yet become tyrannical and the Islamic movement was being suppressed only by resort to derision and ridicule, rumor mongering, false allegations and casting of evil suggestions in the people's minds.

    Theme and Subject Matter

    The Surah deals with those objections of the disbelievers, which they were raising against the Holy Prophet's message of Tauhid and the Hereafter, and about his Prophethood itself, mostly in the form of absurd allegations and taunts and mockery. These objections have been answered, sometimes by citing them and sometimes without citing them, and the discourse itself shows which objection is being answered at a particular place. The answers mostly take the form of instruction and admonition and argument, but at some places the disbelievers have been warned also of the evil consequences, of their stubbornness.

    In this connection, the stories of the Sabaeans and the Prophets David and Solomon have been related to impress this lesson: "You have both these historical precedents before you. On the one hand, there were the Prophets David and Solomon, who had been blessed by Allah with great powers and such grandeur and glory as had been granted to hardly any people before them. In spite of this, they were not proud and arrogant, but remained grateful servants of their Lord. They were never rebellious. On the other hand, there were the people of Saba, who, when blessed by Allah, became proud, and were consequently so thoroughly destroyed and dispersed as to be remembered only in myths and legends. With these precedents in view, you may see and judge for yourselves as to which bind of the life is better: that which is built on belief in Tauhid and the Hereafter and the attitude of gratefulness to Allah, or that which is based on disbelief and shirk and denial of the Hereafter and the worship of the world."

    well that is what he says.. So in conclusion Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi  says  "there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT OUT LOST PROPHET Muhammad(PBUH)"

    but let me cut that surah saba at different places to make it as songs/sonnets..


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      (All) praise is due to Allah, Whose is what is in the heavens and what is in the earth, and to Him is due (all) praise in the hereafter; and He is the Wise, the Aware.

      He knows that which goes down into the earth and that which comes out of it, and that which comes down from the heaven and that which goes up to it; and He is the Merciful, the Forgiving.

      And those who disbelieve say: The hour shall not come upon us. Say: Yea! by my Lord, the Knower of the unseen, it shall certainly come upon you; not the weight of an atom becomes absent from Him, in the heavens or in the earth, and neither less than that nor greater, but (all) is in a clear book

     That He may reward those who believe and do good; these it is for whom is forgiveness and an honorable sustenance.

      And (as for) those who strive hard in opposing Our communications, these it is for whom is a painful chastisement of an evil kind.

      And those to whom the knowledge has been given see that which has been revealed to you from your Lord, that is the truth, and it guides into the path of the Mighty, the Praised.

      And those who disbelieve say: Shall we point out to you a man who informs you that when you are scattered the utmost scattering you shall then be most surely (raised) in (to) a new creation?

     He has forged a lie against Allah or there is madness in him. Nay! those who do not believe in the hereafter are in torment and in great error.

     Do they not then consider what is before them and what is behind them of the heaven and the earth? If We please We will make them disappear in the land or bring down upon them a portion from the heaven; most surely there is a sign in this for every servant turning (to Allah).

     Those 1st 9 verses of surah Saba...., 

    and here  Maryam Masud is reciting Surah Saba at Jamaica Masjid, New York

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZX0k9QKQ7I

    Hmm This guy is also pretty good singer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfiQwfIPkic

    but let us also sing it in English to figure out its in depth meaning..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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