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  • Opportunity
     OP - October 11, 2017, 09:17 PM

    I haven't been to the local mosque in years, but I have a friend who often goes and I'm considering going, only because I know the sheikhs have an anonymous Q&A session following their "scholarly" lectures. Since I know they're hella sexist I'm thinking the anonymous Q&A could be an amazing opportunity to troll them! So I'm making this thread hoping you guys can help me out and come up with some hilarious Islamic-related questions to ask, preferably something so dumb and so ridiculous yet so well-disguised as a serious question that it will make them flounder.

    "Nothing lasts forever. Even the stars die."

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  • Opportunity
     Reply #1 - October 11, 2017, 09:21 PM

    There was a thread similar to this a while ago with online dawah-pushers. People would join and post the conversation. One post was me pretending to be a 12-year-old girl being molested by a 22-year-old muslim. The response was terrifying. Not a singe shit was given, just that I should join islam. Lemme see if I can find it, it may give you some good ideas. And Qtian's gay post was brilliant.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Opportunity
     Reply #2 - October 11, 2017, 09:26 PM

    Found it. Smiley

    https://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=26258.msg746561#msg746561

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Opportunity
     Reply #3 - October 11, 2017, 10:03 PM

    THANKS SO MUCH.

    "Nothing lasts forever. Even the stars die."

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    A for Apostate
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  • Opportunity
     Reply #4 - October 11, 2017, 10:06 PM

    Check out the gay post for laughs. Check out the 12-year-old post for vomit.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Opportunity
     Reply #5 - October 11, 2017, 11:30 PM

    ugh that was sick to read

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  • Opportunity
     Reply #6 - October 11, 2017, 11:35 PM

    Homophobe.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Opportunity
     Reply #7 - October 11, 2017, 11:49 PM

    lol the 12 year old girl one

    I wonder what he would have said if he made it worse. "I'm 12 but we've been together for 6 years."

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     Reply #8 - October 11, 2017, 11:55 PM

    I know, I was having a laugh. Speaking of, the gay one was awesome. Did you see the post of mine where two different members said it should be on greatest hits? Feel free to add it. Seems cheap to add my own post.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Opportunity
     Reply #9 - October 12, 2017, 12:57 AM

    Ok, if nobody has realised the trolling potential of this website yet... here is an example of my work:


    canfused (01:33:22) : helo brother
    I.Dahrooj (01:33:08) : hi
    canfused (01:33:26) : i vari confused
    canfused (01:34:10) : befor i speak with u my problerm
    I.Dahrooj (01:33:56) : you mean : "I am very confused" ?
    canfused (01:34:22) : u tell me about urself plis
    canfused (01:34:50) : are u heterosaxual or homosaxual muslimah?
    I.Dahrooj (01:35:09) : I am a Muslim
    I.Dahrooj (01:35:15) : what is your religion ?
    canfused (01:35:36) : i muslim 2
    canfused (01:35:39) : but i hav problerm
    I.Dahrooj (01:35:33) : asalamu alikum
    canfused (01:36:14) : walaikum assalam
    canfused (01:36:19) : i call u akhi or ukhti?
    I.Dahrooj (01:36:12) : akhi
    canfused (01:36:37) : ok sister
    canfused (01:36:41) : i having issue
    I.Dahrooj (01:36:36) : i am brother
    I.Dahrooj (01:36:45) : akhi means brother
    canfused (01:37:04) : no i do not hav brother sister
    I.Dahrooj (01:36:52) : ukhti means sister
    canfused (01:37:12) : but i think of u as my sister
    canfused (01:37:14) : ok
    canfused (01:37:17) : i hav issue
    canfused (01:37:23) : u help pls i'A
    I.Dahrooj (01:37:18) : in shaa Allah
    canfused (01:37:43) : tabakarallah borther
    canfused (01:37:51) : i try stay away from desire
    canfused (01:37:57) : but i hving homsexual thought
    canfused (01:38:02) : i hear voice in head
    canfused (01:38:07) : tell me 2 b homsexual
    canfused (01:38:11) : i dont sure what to do
    canfused (01:38:21) : i try pray
    canfused (01:38:28) : speak 2 Allah swt
    canfused (01:38:31) : but no repli
    canfused (01:38:36) : i scared for life
    canfused (01:39:02) : what can i do
    canfused (01:39:04) : pls
    I.Dahrooj (01:39:09) : keep away from this major sin
    I.Dahrooj (01:39:16) : by any way
    canfused (01:39:35) : i try but voice no going away
    canfused (01:39:39) : voice keep tell me
    canfused (01:39:41) : it ok
    canfused (01:39:43) : do it
    canfused (01:39:50) : this voice evil?
    I.Dahrooj (01:39:36) : any way
    canfused (01:39:59) : how any way pls help
    I.Dahrooj (01:39:43) : yes
    canfused (01:40:03) : i hav children 2 feed
    I.Dahrooj (01:40:13) : keep away from this sin
    I.Dahrooj (01:40:20) : i am clear
    canfused (01:40:39) : i try but i cant
    canfused (01:40:40) : i try best
    canfused (01:40:44) : everything
    canfused (01:40:47) : no reply from allah
    I.Dahrooj (01:40:34) : you can
    canfused (01:40:52) : no help from Qur'an
    canfused (01:40:55) : no help from hadeeth
    canfused (01:40:57) : i try all
    canfused (01:40:59) : namaz no work
    canfused (01:41:01) : salah no work
    canfused (01:41:03) : sawm no work
    canfused (01:41:34) : i am stuck
    I.Dahrooj (01:41:18) : so you have a problem with your belief
    canfused (01:41:47) : no problem astaghfirullah
    canfused (01:41:51) : i very devote muslim
    canfused (01:41:54) : but this voice no go
    canfused (01:41:55) : i try all
    canfused (01:41:58) : to make it go
    I.Dahrooj (01:41:47) : if your belief is strong and sound , Allah will help
    canfused (01:42:07) : it tortuting me
    I.Dahrooj (01:41:51) : sawm will help
    canfused (01:42:09) : i try belief
    canfused (01:42:11) : i try sawm
    canfused (01:42:13) : for 15 yer
    I.Dahrooj (01:41:56) : salah will help
    canfused (01:42:16) : i been trying
    canfused (01:42:19) : for 15 yer
    canfused (01:42:21) : no help
    canfused (01:42:25) : i so close 2 ending it all
    canfused (01:42:29) : nothing help me
    I.Dahrooj (01:42:19) : this is your problem that you try Smiley
    canfused (01:42:43) : i try everything
    I.Dahrooj (01:42:29) : Allah is not for trial
    canfused (01:42:50) : i stay up all night reading ibn kathir tafsir
    I.Dahrooj (01:42:35) : Allah is for real
    canfused (01:42:56) : every night for 15 yer
    canfused (01:42:59) : i do same
    canfused (01:43:02) : but no help
    canfused (01:43:12) : my allah no helping me
    I.Dahrooj (01:42:57) : you do not listen to me
    I.Dahrooj (01:43:02) : so how i can help you
    canfused (01:43:19) : i listen to u sister
    canfused (01:43:25) : i try al ur method
    canfused (01:43:27) : but no work
    I.Dahrooj (01:43:18) : i am a man
    canfused (01:43:42) : u advise me? mayb someone in ur family homsexual too?
    canfused (01:43:47) : mayb ur father or brother?
    canfused (01:43:56) : how did ur father brother recover from homsexual zina?
    canfused (01:43:58) : pls tell
    I.Dahrooj (01:43:44) : asteghferullah
    canfused (01:44:17) : i run out of idea
    I.Dahrooj (01:44:02) : audhu billah
    canfused (01:44:22) : i need idea
    I.Dahrooj (01:44:12) : wait , my guest
    canfused (01:44:30) : i do not want bid'ah in my islam
    I.Dahrooj (01:44:24) : i have a link it may help if you read
    canfused (01:44:45) : i read all brother
    canfused (01:44:46) : 15 year
    canfused (01:44:49) : i read all book
    canfused (01:44:51) : all internet
    canfused (01:44:53) : averything
    canfused (01:44:56) : all day
    canfused (01:44:59) : i read and quran
    canfused (01:45:03) : and no help
    canfused (01:45:12) : tauba i dont no what do
    I.Dahrooj (01:44:56) : well, you ask me for help
    I.Dahrooj (01:45:03) : i am helping you
    canfused (01:45:20) : u hear of catch 22 situation?
    canfused (01:45:24) : i in catch 22 situation
    canfused (01:45:28) : mashallah brother i understand
    canfused (01:45:32) : u being very good help
    canfused (01:45:37) : but i dont no what do
    canfused (01:45:39) : everything u tell
    canfused (01:45:41) : i alredi done
    canfused (01:46:32) : i will hav to leave my islam
    canfused (01:46:34) : no choice
    I.Dahrooj (01:46:23) : http://islamqa.info/en/20068
    canfused (01:46:42) : i do not want to disobey swt
    canfused (01:46:46) : i wil hav 2 leav
    I.Dahrooj (01:46:39) : http://islamqa.info/en/27176
    canfused (01:47:00) : i read before borther
    canfused (01:47:04) : islamqa good website
    canfused (01:47:10) : but nevr help me personali
    canfused (01:47:24) : voice 2 strong
    canfused (01:47:26) : voice no go away
    I.Dahrooj (01:47:09) : you need to believe
    canfused (01:47:30) : it stay in head
    I.Dahrooj (01:47:13) : that you can
    canfused (01:47:38) : " do homosexual thing do it now"
    canfused (01:47:45) : i try all but nothing make it go away
    I.Dahrooj (01:47:34) : remember hell is stronger and more painful
    canfused (01:47:51) : i shud mayb take drug?
    canfused (01:47:56) : mayb some drug help
    canfused (01:48:05) : bcos homsexual medical disease?
    I.Dahrooj (01:47:52) : emember hell is stronger and more painful
    canfused (01:48:16) : i am in hell
    I.Dahrooj (01:48:19) : it will end
    I.Dahrooj (01:48:22) : when you die
    canfused (01:48:45) : then i will end it now
    canfused (01:48:47) : thank u brother
    canfused (01:48:50) : i will end my pain
    canfused (01:48:56) : may allah bless u
    I.Dahrooj (01:48:41) : but remember the next hell is . eternal , stronger and more painful
    canfused (01:49:03) : i will end my pain now
    canfused (01:49:06) : salaam
    I.Dahrooj (01:48:58) : u too ameen
    I.Dahrooj (01:49:02) : waalikum asalam


    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Opportunity
     Reply #10 - October 12, 2017, 01:01 AM

    I just pretended to be a 12 year old girl being fucked by a 22 year old muslim, all they wanted was to know my religion and to get me to join their cult. Fucking creepy.

    M.Salah has joined the chat.

    M.Salah (00:39:50) : welcome to our website

    M.Salah (00:39:53) : hello friend

    Stacy (00:39:59) : Thx

    Stacy (00:40:07) : Hello Smiley X

    M.Salah (00:40:16) : i am mohamed from egypt

    M.Salah (00:40:25) : where are you from dear?

    Stacy (00:40:47) : I need help wiv my boyfriend. He's muslijm and I dunno what to do

    Stacy (00:41:51) : He's kinda old, like 22. My friend says I should call the poilice cas I'm only 2 but Mo marrird Aisa when she was 6 right?

    Stacy (00:41:59) : "12

    Stacy (00:42:16) : I totally feel lik eI can handle a real relationship

    M.Salah (00:42:14) : you are not muslima?

    Stacy (00:42:27) : Wassat?

    Stacy (00:43:19) : I'm 12. I've had my period so I can be wiv
     by boyfrnd right?

    M.Salah (00:43:24) : please explain more

    Stacy (00:43:34) : ?

    M.Salah (00:43:35) : i dont understand what you want dear

    Stacy (00:44:36) : My frind wants to call the police on my boyfriend. I'm 2, he's 22. But he's a muzzie, and Mo got married to a girl who was 6 and I've had my period so I'm, totally old enough right?

    Stacy (00:44:46) : *12

    Stacy (00:46:14) : My boyfriend says islamically I'm old enougn cos I've had my period but I'm scared my parents will find out.My boyfriend said I can't tell them

    M.Salah (00:46:40) : are you muslima?

    Stacy (00:46:57) : I'm Stacy

    M.Salah (00:47:26) : what is your religion?

    Stacy (00:47:47) : I unno., I don't think I'm old enough to have a religion

    Stacy (00:47:51) : *dunno

    Stacy (00:48:33) : I think I have to wait until I'm old enough to decide what I believe

    Stacy (00:48:58) : Why would I have religion? I'm 12

    Stacy (00:49:23) : This is a muslim pace right?

    Stacy (00:50:47) : I dunno wot to do bout my boyfriend Cry

    Stacy (00:51:47) : Why does my friend say it's bad cos I'm only 12 and he's 22? My boyfriend said god said it's fine cos Mo marrid 6 and god said it's fine

    Stacy (00:51:55) : I dunno if I like it tho

    Stacy (00:51:58) : :(

    Stacy (00:52:48) : Sometimes I wish I culd tell my mum an dad

    M.Salah (00:52:52) : so you said that you are not old enough to have religion and you want only to have wrong relation our marriage

    Stacy (00:53:11) : I dunno what than means

    M.Salah (00:53:13) : you should be far from this one

    Stacy (00:53:27) : Wat you mean?

    M.Salah (00:53:40) : he want deceive you by some misconception in islam

    Stacy (00:54:14) : My p[arents said I'm not old enough to have religion cos I'm not old enough to no wat I believe but my boyfriend tell me about islam

    Stacy (00:54:35) : About Mo and allah and Aisha

    M.Salah (00:55:31) : yes it was order from Allah to Prophet to marry AISHA MAY THE ALMIGY GOD BLESSES HER

    Stacy (00:55:38) : Mo marry his girlfriend at 6 right? I'm 12, I'm old enough,allah said so

    Stacy (00:57:15) : Lol you there lol?

    M.Salah (00:57:45) : yes see sister

    M.Salah (00:57:50) : please trust me

    Stacy (00:58:06) : Bout wat?

    M.Salah (00:58:12) : read this books first

    M.Salah (00:58:14) : http://www.islam-guide.com

    M.Salah (00:58:28) : read first

    M.Salah (00:58:52) : and you will know it talks about what

    Stacy (00:59:12) : ok I think that might be to grown up for me? I don't get it. Looks like bible, boring

    M.Salah (00:59:37) : never

    Stacy (00:59:57) : ?

    M.Salah (00:59:58) : you will like it,

    M.Salah (01:00:06) : so amazing

    Stacy (01:00:15) : It says islam has proof

    M.Salah (01:00:34) : after you read it

    M.Salah (01:00:57) : you can decide if you want to be a muslima or no?

    Stacy (01:01:10) : Wats that?

    Stacy (01:01:25) : wots muslima?

    M.Salah (01:03:06) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1shPZXH8-Y

    The party has left or disconnected. Chat session has ended.


    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Opportunity
     Reply #11 - October 12, 2017, 03:17 AM

    The gay one is priceless. "i call u akhi or ukhti?" "akhi" "ok sister" lmao

    "Nothing lasts forever. Even the stars die."

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    A for Apostate
    A for Anonymous
    A for Aqua
  • Opportunity
     Reply #12 - October 12, 2017, 07:43 AM

    "ok sister" Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy omg I nearly pissed myself, that's brilliant!! Cheesy
  • Opportunity
     Reply #13 - October 14, 2017, 03:54 AM

    So I tried this. I totally confused them both. Muhsin transferred me to Hammad, and then Hammad transferred me to Muhsin, and then Muhsin just ended the chat. I am "Wandering Willow"


        Muhsin   Fri, 10/13/17 07:53:29 pm America/Los_Angeles   
     
    Hey there! If you have any questions about Islam, just let me know.   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   07:53:51 pm   
     
    I have a question.   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   07:54:00 pm   
     
    Hi:)   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   07:54:08 pm   
     
    Hello.   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   07:54:18 pm   
     
    yes sure...   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   07:54:32 pm   
     
    Is this a Q&A chat?   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   07:55:09 pm   
     
    yes.. This service is dedicated to educate non-Muslim guests about Islam. Smiley   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   07:55:18 pm   
     
    okie   
    I have a question about halal meat   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   07:55:40 pm   
     
    ok..   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   07:55:56 pm   
     
    ok can i just jump right in   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   07:56:19 pm   
     
    yeah sure..but kindly note.. Our chat service is mainly to introduce Islam to non Muslims and answer their questions about it. But we also help any Muslim brother or sister who need advice. We don't give fatwa though because we are not scholars, so we're not qualified to do so .   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   07:56:55 pm   
     
    can i have ur informed opinion about something   
    the halal meat and animals   07:57:07 pm
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   07:58:10 pm   
     
    yes?   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   07:58:49 pm   
     
    why is it that when certain animals are slaughtered, like the lamb or the cow, you're supposed to pray over it so it can be halal before you kill it, but you don't have to pray for a fish when you kill it?   
    is it because cows and lambs are "biblical" (i.e. the lamb in the story of Ibrahim and the cow in Surat al Baqara)   07:59:20 pm
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:00:05 pm   
     
    coz that is the command given by God   
    coz you dont actually kill a fish.. you simply take it out from water... and it dies after some time   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:00:48 pm   
     
    does it say that in quran, i can't remember   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:00:51 pm   
     
    yes...   
    it does   
    and in the Hadith too   08:01:00 pm
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:01:14 pm   
     
    weird   
    i was thinking   
    because they're not biblical   
    i thought lambs and cows were actually celestial beings   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:01:45 pm   
     
    what is mentioned in the Quran has nothing to do with something being biblical or no   
    Are you a convert by the way?   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:02:12 pm   
     
    i am curious about all faiths   
    i have another question   
    about trees   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:02:42 pm   
     
    i see..   
    yeah sure..   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:03:04 pm   
     
    i heard a hadith that whenever someone praises Allah a palm tree is planted for him or her   
    my issue with this is i don't really like palm trees   
    and i wonder why the discrimination against other trees?   
    like the Bonsai tree, or the red maple, or the weeping willow, or the Californian cypress   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:04:16 pm   
     
    if it would have been Bonsai tree.. then people would have said.. why not others? if it would have been ... red maple...then people would have said.. why not others....   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:04:17 pm   
     
    Does the palm tree have a heavenly connotation, like the pomegranate, which in many cultures is associated with paradise or the afterlife in some form?   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:04:23 pm   
     
    so the questioning wont really stop..   
    as for the WHY.. then we say Allaah knows the Best   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:04:43 pm   
     
    but why specifically the palm tree   
    is it because the palm tree is most prevalent in the region where islam emerged from?   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:05:04 pm   
     
    coz Allaah doesnt mention specifically about each and everything.. as to why this.. and why not that...   
    God knows the best   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:05:31 pm   
     
    but how do we know   
    based on the knowledge that praising Allah gets you a ton of palm trees in heaven   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:06:04 pm   
     
    "but how do we know" - I'm sorry I don't understand what you're asking. Can you explain that?   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:06:05 pm   
     
    that heaven is not merely an Arab' man's fantasy of paradise rather than a place that can appeal to all individuals of all cultures?   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:06:45 pm   
     
    yes indeed its a a place that can appeal to all individuals of all cultures   
    thats why there you wont have the same feelings like you have here..   
    for that tree   08:07:00 pm
    Smiley   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:07:07 pm   
     
    so if I praise Allah but I want weeping willows will I get weeping willows instead of palm trees   
    bc i really prejudice against the palm tree   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:07:47 pm   
     
    yes thats what you do here..   
    but you wont do it in the hereafter   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:08:08 pm   
     
    so no weeping willows in heaven for me?   
    :(   
    why the discrimination?   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:08:49 pm   
     
    see.. we believe that God Almighty since he is our creator.. he knows what is Good for his creation,... and what is bad for his creation...   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:09:04 pm   
     
    are weeping willows bad for his creation?   
    but i don't understand   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:09:27 pm   
     
    if something is being chosen that doesnt mean the other is bad   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:09:29 pm   
     
    if he created the beautiful weeping willow why choose the ugly palm tree over it   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:09:47 pm   
     
    i am simply pointing out the fact that its chosen by God...   
    as God says in the Quran...   
    that...   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:10:02 pm   
     
    so the palm tree is sacred?   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:10:56 pm   
     
    " But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not." Quran 2:216   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:11:17 pm   
     
    i don't think the palm tree is good for me   
    i love the weeping willow   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:11:29 pm   
     
    yes thats what Quran is saying...   
    Allah Knows, while you know not   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:11:33 pm   
     
    does that mean the weeping willow is bad for me?   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:11:42 pm   
     
    no it doesnt mean that   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:11:43 pm   
     
    what did the weeping willow ever do to anyone   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:11:48 pm   
     
    did he say that?   
    if you marry someone.. that doesnt mean the others were useless   08:12:04 pm
    but you had to choose one..   
    so you choose which you liked..   
    Pray to God that you want weeping willow   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:12:51 pm   
     
    but in this case i don't get a choice i just get stuck with the ugly palm tree   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:12:55 pm   
     
    he will surely grant you that..   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:12:59 pm   
     
    okie   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:13:39 pm   
     
    apart from weeping willow.. im sure.. you are looking forward to enter Paradise. coz thats where you would get them Smiley   
    right?   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:13:56 pm   
     
    yes only if palm trees stay out of it   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:14:32 pm   
     
    see we are told.. that our feelings would be different there...   
    Smiley   
    so dont worry.. you would be ok with them too   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:14:57 pm   
     
    palm trees are my idea of hell   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:15:29 pm   
     
    thats Your idea.. not Gods   
    so dont worry on that   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:16:16 pm   
     
    i got another question   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:16:19 pm   
     
    so whats your belief about God?   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:17:04 pm   
     
    i believe in the Goddess   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:17:22 pm   
     
    so God has gender?   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:17:31 pm   
     
    the Goddess has no gender nor form   
    i have a question for u   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:17:47 pm   
     
    but Goddess itself means female God   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:17:57 pm   
     
    God means male   
    what does the terminology matter   08:18:04 pm
    khoda or allah or god or goddess or the force or dark matter   
    do you believe in the force?   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:18:47 pm   
     
    yes the terminology matters.. coz Khoda can be anyone... God can be anyone.. but Allaah is the proper name of the one true God   
    force?   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:19:03 pm   
     
    why Allah   
    why the discrimination against other terms   
    if martians have a name for dark matter does that make it any less of allah   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:19:44 pm   
     
    thats the name... a proper name...of the One true God   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:20:14 pm   
     
    do animals call god allah   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:20:51 pm   
     
    animals speak?   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:21:06 pm   
     
    do animals know about allah   
    or dark matter or the force   
    the Goddess   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:21:21 pm   
     
    yes they know about Allaah   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:21:42 pm   
     
    does that mean what everyone else calls allah in their language is wrong   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:22:45 pm   
     
    if they are refering to the same one true God...   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:22:54 pm   
     
    YES!   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:22:55 pm   
     
    then not a problem if they are ignorant with the name   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:22:57 pm   
     
    The force   
    the Goddess   
    is it wrong to be a woman   08:23:26 pm
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:23:33 pm   
     
    apart from name what is more important is the concept of God...   
    its a honor to be a woman   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:23:46 pm   
     
    i have a question about kafir and mumin   
    the terms   
    what sort of dichotomy do such terms create in people's minds   08:24:08 pm
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:24:09 pm   
     
    a female in Islam when a daughter.. she opens the door of paradise for the parents...   
    as a wife.. she is a half of the religion   
    as a mother .. paradise lies beneath her feet   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:25:04 pm   
     
    can u still be a honorable woman and not be any of those things   
    what if i don't wanna be a wife, what if i wanna be a wandering willow   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:25:52 pm   
     
    yes... by default you are already one   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:26:02 pm   
     
    a wandering willow?   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:26:46 pm   
     
    what do you mean by you want to be a wandering willow?   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:26:56 pm   
     
    it's a metaphor   
    what do u think about the terms kafir and mumin   08:27:04 pm
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:27:35 pm   
     
    Kaafir means a disbeliever...   
    someone who disbleievs in Allaah   
    Mu'min means a believer   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:28:09 pm   
     
    what do such opposing terms create in people's minds   
    in terms of worlview   
    dichotomy of good vs. evil?   
    some lord of the rings Sauron vs. Frodo mindset   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:28:48 pm   
     
    I did not understand what you mean, can you please explain further?   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:28:58 pm   
     
    sith lords vs. jedi   
    i mean   08:29:28 pm
    are the mu'mins the jedi and the kafirs the sith lords?   
    or are the kafirs the jedi and the mu'mins the sith lords?   
    is it possible to transcend such labels, to co-exist not just in peace but to live in a way of interconnectedness and mutual love?   08:30:41 pm
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:31:40 pm   
     
    im sorry i am not getting what Sauron vs. Frodo mindset you are talking about .. and what jedia dn lords   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:31:56 pm   
     
    i'm talking about good vs. evil   
    trump supporters vs. the rest of the world   08:32:05 pm
    lannisters v.s. starks   
    everyone vs. the seahawks   
     
     
     
     
        Muhsin   08:32:50 pm   
     
    Let me transfer you to another agent. Someone will be able to answer your question.   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:34:20 pm   
     
    hi   
    can you please tell me about the dichotomy of kafirs vs. mu'mins and what this does for the world   
    a.k.a sith lords v.s. jedi   
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:35:22 pm   
     
    I dont understand   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:35:32 pm   
     
    ok   
    kafir = nonbeliever   
    mu'min = believer   
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:35:49 pm   
     
    ok   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:35:59 pm   
     
    do these terms create a dichotomy of good vs. evil and what does that do for the world?   
    is it possible to transcend such terms   08:36:27 pm
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:36:34 pm   
     
    I dont understand your question   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:36:49 pm   
     
    ok.   
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:37:01 pm   
     
    Yes   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:37:13 pm   
     
    yes u follow or yes to the last question   
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:37:30 pm   
     
    Last point   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:37:54 pm   
     
    say i'm what they call a "kafir" or a "mu'min"   
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:38:01 pm   
     
    Hm?   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:38:02 pm   
     
    can i just not be either of those things   
    can i be a jedi instead?   
    or a wandering willow?   
    a willow tree spreads it's branches, spreads it's shade on everyone whether mu'min or kafir   
    know what i mean?   
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:38:48 pm   
     
    No   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:39:08 pm   
     
    do i have to be one of those things?   
    kafir or mu'min   
    why can't i just be Bilbo Baggins   
    in my hobbit hole eating food and sharing it with everyone i love   
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:40:00 pm   
     
    You can call yourself whatever   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:40:23 pm   
     
    but what does the dichotomy of the terms kafir and mu'min do for the world   
    is it a positive thing?   
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:41:22 pm   
     
    One is rejecting God   
    Kafir   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:41:47 pm   
     
    i'm talking about the dichotomy though   
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:41:50 pm   
     
    Tied to negative   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:42:06 pm   
     
    yes but what you are saying is exactly the issue i am speaking of   
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:42:21 pm   
     
    Ok   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:43:21 pm   
     
    do these terms not contribute to the balkanization of the Muslim world and the rest of the world?   
    i.e. sith lords v.s. jedi?   
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:43:44 pm   
     
    Dont get you   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:43:48 pm   
     
    starks v.s. lannisters?   
    what don't u get   08:44:01 pm
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:44:13 pm   
     
    Nne   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:44:27 pm   
     
    if one identifies as a sith lord it triggers an automatic hostile psychological reaction   
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:44:43 pm   
     
    Islam is the same truth that God revealed to all of His prophets from Adam to Noah, Moses and Jesus, the son of Mary, and the rest of the beautiful chain of prophets who called people to worship God alone with no partners. May God send His peace and blessings upon all of them. Does this make sense to you?   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:45:22 pm   
     
    i know the truth   
    that's not what i'm asking   
    i'm talking about the dichotomy and what it does for the world   
     
     
     
     
        Hammad   08:46:13 pm   
     
    Ok   
     
     
     
     
        Wandering Willow   08:47:04 pm   
     
    must we either be kafir or mu'min, sith lord or jedi, stark or lannister, trump supporter or the rest of the world? can we not surpass such terms and the mutual hostility that comes from looking at one another in stark shades of dual morality?   
    can i just be a wandering willow spreading the life of the goddess to whoever crosses my path, or bilbo baggins sharing my food with my dwarfly friends?   08:48:05 pm
    u know bilbo?   
    i gotta go   
    thanks for clearing that up   08:49:05 pm
    hi muhsin

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     Reply #14 - October 16, 2017, 04:32 PM

    Since I know they're hella sexist
    So I'm making this thread hoping you guys can help me out


    Sex with pre-menstruating girls in islam.

    https://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=25367.0

    So basically there's a good Islamic argument for raping babies. Could also mention the tighing hadiths.

    "Thighing" - WTF?

    https://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=9668.0

    The whole 'thighing thing' - what is the consensus on this?

    https://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=27498.0

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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     Reply #15 - October 16, 2017, 04:51 PM

    ..................................
    ........ tighing hadiths.

    .........."Thighing" - WTF?

    ........The whole 'thighing thing' -  .................


    these so-called  hadith/Islamic sayings added so much shit in to Islam it is impossible to defend Islam  unless you stop using your brain and live life like a ZOMBI.   and , a  faithful idiot putting your head in to sand and your ass on to sky ..

    This is Ghada Jamsheer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bynld68XNB0

    A  Bahraini women's rights activist and an ardent campaigner for the reform of Sharia courts in Bahrain and the Arab States of the Persian Gulf For her outspoken views on stupid hadith sharia laws of Islam  she was
     jailed in 2015

    Quote
    In 2005, the Bahraini government brought three criminal charges against Jamshir for allegedly publicly defaming the Islamic family court judiciary, and faced a jail sentence of up to 15 years.[3] These charges were eventually dropped on 19 June 2005.[4]

    Since 2006, Ghada Jamsheer has been under permanent surveillance, there is a 24-hour presence of plainclothes Public Security officials of the Ministry of the Interior outside her home.[4]

    After her criticism of government policies, Bahrain authorities ordered the local media and press to prevent the publication of any news relating to Jamshir. The order came from the Royal Court, through its minister Shaikh Khalid bin Ahmed Al-Khalifa.[4] Jamshir also claims that the Minister of the Royal Court gave her a direct threat demanding that she end her public work, after which the regime attempted to install a spy camera in her house, bugged her telephone, and sent individuals to bribe and blackmail her.[5]

    In 2006, Time Magazine identified Jamshir as one of four heroes of freedom in the Arab world,[6] and Forbes magazine selected her as one of the ten most powerful and effective women in the Arab world.[7]

      that is from wiki..

    Burn the shit from hadith  on steps of Mosques and declare such nonsense in Islamic literature as stories of their time and NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FIRST PREACHER OF ISLAM  

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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     Reply #16 - October 16, 2017, 07:31 PM

    Women’s rights activists in Algeria singing for change label 20 years of Sharia in the family code as 20 years of madness.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP3XFOncvCw&feature=player_embedded

    Check that and other posts on my thread Thought provoking works of life and morality. Smiley

    https://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=25116.0

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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