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  • Re: Islamic Intellectulas of 20th century _The Muslim Men
     Reply #30 - April 04, 2011, 02:49 PM

    Muslim Responses to Hegemony _ Dr Chandra Muzzafar  from Malaysia

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc2bWOxCTWo

    Chandra Muzaffar is a Malaysian Muslim political scientist, and an Islamic reformist and activist. He has written on civilisational dialog, human rights, Malaysian politics and international relations.  Muzaffar was the first Director of the Centre for Civilisational Dialogue at the University of Malaya. He then became the Noordin Sopiee Professor of Global Studies at the Science University of Malaysia (USM) in Penang. In 1977 he founded a multi-ethnic social reform group, Aliran Kesedaran Negara, which he led for 14 years. He later became president of the International Movement for a Just World, which seeks to raise public consciousness on the moral and intellectual basis of global justice.

    Good man and plain talker., there are number articles by him at this link since 2002..
    http://www.just-international.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3366&Itemid=140

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Islamic Intellectulas of 20th century _The Muslim Men
     Reply #31 - April 11, 2011, 08:34 AM

    I still do not understand why some here associate anti-western setiment with Islam. Islam and the West was very much in peace and good co-existance during the Soviet times.

    Plus, the West has played a major role in the Islamification of the region. I think people do not have to be Islamists to hate the West.

    America invaded Iraq, there was no WMD's and over a Million people died. What a good way to stop Alqaeda from Recruiting!

    Then the case of Afghanistan, why did America overthrow a Socialist secular government and armed the Islamists with stingers etc?

    Why did America and Nato armed Bosnian Jihadis against the Serbs? what happened to them? why did Britain allow Former Bosnian Jihadis to preach hatred at finsbury park mosque? why did Britain take a blind eye to dozens of British Muslims travelling to Bosnia to fight as Jihadis?

    Why is the West supporting and arming Libyan Jihadis Alqaeda figures to overthrow a Secular Socialist government in Libya? Why is the West accepting to buy oil from Villians,Alqaeda rebles in Libya?

    Screw America, I dont need to be a Islamist to hate America, America is the most hated country for a good reason. It is the most vile country and most racist facist country. Being the most richest, its so assuming it has one of the worst living conditions plus the discrimination and racism is vibrant in its socieities.

    Both Islamists and America and good for eachother, both were bed pals at one time and not the neutral ones have to suffer.

  • Re: Islamic Intellectulas of 20th century _The Muslim Men
     Reply #32 - April 11, 2011, 09:10 AM

    I still do not understand why some here associate anti-western setiment with Islam. Islam and the West was very much in peace and good co-existance during the Soviet times.

    Plus, the West has played a major role in the Islamification of the region. I think people do not have to be Islamists to hate the West.

    America invaded Iraq, there was no WMD's and over a Million people died. What a good way to stop Alqaeda from Recruiting!

    Then the case of Afghanistan, why did America overthrow a Socialist secular government and armed the Islamists with stingers etc?

    Why did America and Nato armed Bosnian Jihadis against the Serbs? what happened to them? why did Britain allow Former Bosnian Jihadis to preach hatred at finsbury park mosque? why did Britain take a blind eye to dozens of British Muslims travelling to Bosnia to fight as Jihadis?

    Why is the West supporting and arming Libyan Jihadis Alqaeda figures to overthrow a Secular Socialist government in Libya? Why is the West accepting to buy oil from Villians,Alqaeda rebles in Libya?

    Screw America, I dont need to be a Islamist to hate America, America is the most hated country for a good reason. It is the most vile country and most racist facist country. Being the most richest, its so assuming it has one of the worst living conditions plus the discrimination and racism is vibrant in its socieities.

    Both Islamists and America and good for eachother, both were bed pals at one time and not the neutral ones have to suffer.




  • Re: Islamic Intellectulas of 20th century _The Muslim Men
     Reply #33 - May 27, 2011, 10:09 AM

    Well I read another "Islamic Intellectual_Prof Mohammed Rafi " to day   he says  in his  article of "Of reason and knowledge"

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    ISLAM’S insistence on reason as the best guide for belief and action, combined with its pragmatic approach, makes it very practical, logical, rational and close to life as a belief system.
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    Islam is concerned with the broad aim of life for those who have the courage to think, judge and act for themselves. It encompasses rationality and experience and rejects blind faith, as it addresses “Those, who, when the revelations of their Rab (Nourisher) are presented to them, do not fall thereupon deaf and blind” (25:73).


    Islam views the world as an expression of God’s creative force. It gives broad principles as guidance to man in all walks of life which enable him to attain the goal of self-realisation and social welfare. These principles are not to be followed blindly, but applied with intelligence and forethought.

    The Quran says, “Those who do not use their faculties of thinking, reasoning and deliberating are not human beings, they are living their lives on the animal level, even worse than that; these are the cursed people” (7:179). The Quran repeatedly exhorts man to think. Those who use their reason are held in admiration. “The blind and deaf ignorant and the seeing (knowledgeable) are not equal. Will you not then reflect on this?” (6:50, 11:24). “Are those who know equal with those who know not? But only men of understanding will pay heed” (39:9).

    However, despite these clear injunctions, for the last 500 years or so, religious thought in Islam has been stationary. In the early period of Muslim history, Mutazilites, the rationalists, upheld man’s freedom of thought and action and hence his responsibility for whatever he does. They rejected the fatalism of the Asharites. Due to the peculiar circumstances of that time, they lost their case to the orthodox Asharites in the fourth and fifth centuries (Hijra). However, the rationalist trend continued through philosophers, thinkers and reformers across Muslim lands.

    The Quran does not accept as momineen (believers) who readily believe without questioning or thinking. True believers are those who do not accept without scrutiny and deliberation (25:73). “Allah brings forward the clues and hints in a fashion, thereby enabling you to reflect on this life and the hereafter” (2:219). The true practice of Islam in that spirit of thinking and reasoning has been long forgotten, rather lulled to sleep by clerics and religious obscurantists. They consider intellectual development and achievements of a particular period in history as a benchmark and have ruled out any further thinking, re-evaluation and progress of the thought process.

    Nations using their intelligence and knowledge keep gaining strength while Muslim states have become weak to the point where they cannot even defend themselves. Islam stresses the importance of this world as well as the hereafter: “The heavenly bodies and earth have been brought under your control (human beings) by Allah. There are signs in them for those who think and reflect” (45:13). The entire universe works in accordance with the divine laws of nature. These can be discovered only through intelligence, knowledge and hard work for the benefit of mankind.

    The great philosopher and scholar of medicine and social sciences Al Kindi believed that the highest existence was that of reason and intellect which proceeded from God by way of emanation, and that our soul was an uncompounded, imperishable essence which was in the world of reason before its descent to the sensuous world. Thus, it can have both sensible and rational knowledge. Al Farabi also stressed the acquisition of knowledge of all things in the universe; its main aim being to realise God. Ibn-i-Sina contended that intellect enabled man to know God. Thus it is incumbent upon man to polish his intellect, acquire knowledge and develop his reasoning abilities so that he may ennoble his soul and make it perfect.

    The rejection of religious interference in state affairs in the West has had its negative effect over the centuries. Complete secularisation of thought and action has led them to reject the hereafter and hence they feel that they are not answerable to any supreme authority for their worldly actions. The law of retribution and requital has no place in their thought process.

    Islam, on the other hand, is a deen of balance in all walks of life. It stresses that all emotions should be controlled by reason which should be guided by divine revelation through a set of permanent values. More than 1,000 verses of the Quran relate to nature and its working and in these verses human beings are asked to pause, see, ponder, reflect and act. It is the duty of every Muslim to use his mental faculties and acquire knowledge.

    Many among today’s ulema of Islam are not those who have religious knowledge and lead prayers in mosques. In the light of the following verse, the word ‘ulema’ can only be translated as ‘scientists’: “The Book of nature is for everyone, but only those who submit to the awe-inspiring grandeur of its laws, who think and reflect upon these in the light of knowledge and discernment, are the people entitled to be called ulema” (37:27,28). Inactivity in exploring and studying the world around us and not taking advantage of the bounties of nature has led present-day Muslims to a life which is miserable, poor and meaningless. This will ultimately make them losers in the hereafter too.

    No one knows how long the shackles which Muslims have put on the Quran and human intellect will keep crippling them, but certainly this cannot last long. Notwithstanding the forces of exploitation, the Eternal Truth is ultimately bound to prevail. “Man shall have only for which he strives” (53:99).


    So basically my man says . "QURAN HAS EVEY THING"  Science, sociology, sex, Scientology.. economics.. philosophy"    Professor says
    Quote
    The Quran says, “Those who do not use their faculties of thinking, reasoning and deliberating are not human beings, they are living their lives on the animal level, even worse than that; these are the cursed people” (7:179). The Quran repeatedly exhorts man to think. Those who use their reason are held in admiration. “The blind and deaf ignorant and the seeing (knowledgeable) are not equal. Will you not then reflect on this?” (6:50, 11:24). “Are those who know equal with those who know not? But only men of understanding will pay heed” (39:9).


    well let us read those (7:179, 6:50, 11.24 and 39.9 in its original form..

    Quote
    007.179  : And certainly We have created for hell many of the jinn and the men; they have hearts with which they do not understand, and they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear; they are as cattle, nay, they are in worse errors; these are the heedless ones.

    006.050: Say: I do not say to you, I have with me the treasures of Allah, nor do I know the unseen, nor do I say to you that I am an angel; I do not follow aught save that which is revealed to me. Say: Are the blind and the seeing one alike? Do you not then reflect?

    011.024: The likeness of the two parties is as the blind and the deaf and the seeing and the hearing: are they equal in condition? Will you not then mind?

    039.009: What! he who is obedient during hours of the night, prostrating himself and standing, takes care of the hereafter and hopes for the mercy of his Lord! Say: Are those who know and those who do not know alike? Only the men of understanding are mindful.

    they are the original verses " well, one needs lot more imagination to come to that conclsuion that "THOSE VERSES " above telling the readers  "to think" before you act..  i don't know how rational is the man who believe in "JINNS"

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #34 - May 30, 2011, 03:29 PM

    Muhammad Asad.

    Fazlur Rahman.


    They make the most sense in my view.

    What am I? Deist / Quranist <--- Click links to Find Out More
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #35 - June 08, 2011, 12:52 PM

    Muhammad Asad.

    Fazlur Rahman.


    They make the most sense in my view.

    Which Muhammad Asad and which Fazlur Rahman dear WhoMan.. Q-man.. Balls man .. boobs man??  there are many famous guys with those two names..

    are you talking about this Muhammad Asad??

    and are you talking about this Fazlur Rahman

    any way another famous one is this one  He shook whole subcontinent and it is still shaking..  Let us watch him in the above link and let us also read him here

    His followers took a big procession in Lad of pure on the death of an Islamic hero

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #36 - June 09, 2011, 12:10 PM

    I still do not understand why some here associate anti-western setiment with Islam. Islam and the West was very much in peace and good co-existance during the Soviet times.

    Plus, the West has played a major role in the Islamification of the region. I think people do not have to be Islamists to hate the West.

    America invaded Iraq, there was no WMD's and over a Million people died. What a good way to stop Alqaeda from Recruiting!

    Then the case of Afghanistan, why did America overthrow a Socialist secular government and armed the Islamists with stingers etc?

    Why did America and Nato armed Bosnian Jihadis against the Serbs? what happened to them? why did Britain allow Former Bosnian Jihadis to preach hatred at finsbury park mosque? why did Britain take a blind eye to dozens of British Muslims travelling to Bosnia to fight as Jihadis?

    Why is the West supporting and arming Libyan Jihadis Alqaeda figures to overthrow a Secular Socialist government in Libya? Why is the West accepting to buy oil from Villians,Alqaeda rebles in Libya?

    Screw America, I dont need to be a Islamist to hate America, America is the most hated country for a good reason. It is the most vile country and most racist facist country. Being the most richest, its so assuming it has one of the worst living conditions plus the discrimination and racism is vibrant in its socieities.

    Both Islamists and America and good for eachother, both were bed pals at one time and not the neutral ones have to suffer.




  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #37 - July 10, 2011, 11:04 AM

    Another Incompetent  Intellectual Islamic Fool from Pakistan Writes " Jews damaging their economic interests"

    how the hell juice damage their own interests??  Let us read

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    Since the September 11 tragedy, Israel and Jews who had overtly and covertly jumped on Bush’s anti-terrorism enterprise in order to targeting Pakistan, Iran and China in particular and other Islamic countries in general have been damaging their global economic interests by manipulating the US war on terror. On the other side, in the aftermath of 9/11, various suicide attacks in Israel, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Spain, Britain etc., and an unending wave of the same in Iraq and Afghanistan shows that the Muslim revolutionaries are giving a greater setback to the world economic which especially safeguards the interests of the Jews at the cost of the small states which have become arena of this new style conflict.

    Huh .. CHINA IS AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY??  brainless fool drink some juice..

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    It is notable that many big cartels of the world are owned by the Jews. By controlling the major multinational corporations, arms factories, five star hotels, oil companies, liquor business, food industries, mining and mineral resources, banks, film industry, print and electronic media on international level—having influence on the financial institutes like World Bank and International Monetary Fund, Jews have direct and indirect hold on the global economy. In this regard, many intellectuals like Don Allen and others reveal, “the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) was founded in New York City by Col. Edward Mandell House (real name: Haus–Jewish), chief adviser to President Woodrow Wilson, in league with stockholders of the Federal Reserve Bank…was part of a conspiracy to gain control of both US political parties to use them as instruments … seventy-three percent of the members of the Council on Foreign Relations are Jews.

    Then what Muslims are doing?? bending their asses up in to the sky and head in to the sand??



    Well by doing that 5 times a day., you are not going to become CEO of some company...
     
    Quote
    ........Jewish-Hindu lobbies are collectively working in America and other European countries to manipulate the double standards of the west in relation to terrorism and human rights vis-à-vis Pakistan, Iran and China in particular and Syria, Libya, Yemen, Egypt etc. in general in wake of the violent protests and uprising in these Middle East states. Particularly Israel and India are equating the ‘war of independence’ in Kashmir and Palestine with terrorism.


    It is due to the Jewish control over world media and collective secret alliance of American CIA, Israeli Mossad and Indian RAW that some Indian, Israeli and western politicians have introduced dangerous socio-religious dimension in their societies by equating the “war on terror” with “war on Islam” and acts of Al Qaeda with all the Muslims. Their media have also been contributing to heighten the currents of world politics on cultural and religious lines with the negative projection of Islam. In this connection, reprinting of the caricatures about the Holy Prophet (PBUH) and release of a Dutch film against the Holy Quran in the recent past might be noted as an example.  ........[/quote]
    This allah hooo abaaar  fools likey ou are the reason why Muslims minds are stagnated an now riting like headless chickens my good friend Sajjad Shaukat

    The Siege of Pakistan Continues _Sajjad Shaukat

    Why Pak-India Dialogue Fails? _ Sajjad Shaukat2

    Pakistan’s Insecurity Means US Insecurity_Sajjad Shaukat3

    Baloch Separatists’ Foreign Connections _ Sajjad Shaukat4

    Man you are fool and a conspiracy theory maker from that group which controls "Islamic Sluts of Internationala"_  A group of  Pakistan conspiracy theorists  ..

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #38 - July 10, 2011, 01:53 PM

    Here are two late 20th century and early 21st century scholars of traditional sunni islam.


    Those 2 were some of my favourite scholars when I was muslim, and I still think some of their insights are profound.

    They seemed to promote a sense of common humanity regardless of religious beleifs, contemplation and compassion. But they had a tendency to try to bend over backwards to rationalize, or sugarcoat aspect of Islam that cleary troubled them...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQxzuU4ptiI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fj39A5_7RI

  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #39 - July 10, 2011, 10:21 PM

    yeezeeve,

    Yes, I mean that Muhammad Asad. This one: http://muhammad-asad.com

    And this Fazlur Rahman: http://fazlur-rahman.livejournal.com


    Also another one is Ghulam Ahmed Parwez: http://www.tolueislam.com/Parwez/parwez.htm

    His famous work is "islam: a challenge to religion"
    http://www.tolueislam.com/Parwez/ICR/ICR.htm

    What am I? Deist / Quranist <--- Click links to Find Out More
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #40 - January 27, 2012, 06:43 PM

    well this thread wen down the drain let me pull it out of mud., So To day i read  Nilofar Ahmed., A terrific columnist in support of Islam and wrote innumerable articles along with that book  'The Golden Book of Islam "

    so today  she writes about   Governance in Islam]., Let us read a bit., well before we analyze her article let me answer the Whoman  
    yeezeeve,

    Yes, I mean that Muhammad Asad. This one: http://muhammad-asad.com

    well i have read extensively  and written a bit  about that Juice  "Leopold Weiss" aka Muhammad-asad dear Whoman., There is very little to learn from him on Islam.

    well you can read about "Leopold Weiss" in these links

    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?p=94252#p94252

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=8742.msg218068#msg218068

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=8742.msg218322#msg218322
    Quote
    And this Fazlur Rahman: http://fazlur-rahman.livejournal.com

    I have not read much about his works.. he is usual old timer who wrote in support of Indianized  Islam ., I am talking about Old India of 18th century.

    Quote
    Also another one is Ghulam Ahmed Parwez: http://www.tolueislam.com/Parwez/parwez.htm

    His famous work is "islam: a challenge to religion"
    http://www.tolueislam.com/Parwez/ICR/ICR.htm

    Same goes to Ghulam Ahmed Parwez., I have read and written abut him..

    with best
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #41 - January 27, 2012, 07:11 PM

    http://www.guernicamag.com/interviews/1756/berman_5_15_10/

    Quote
    Nazi Sheikhs
    Joel Whitney interviews Paul Berman May 2010

    The polemicist discusses Tariq Ramadan’s love of extremist sheikhs, Islamism’s ties to Hitler, and the intellectual confusion of liberal journalists.

    In 2006, Paul Berman attended a seminar in Sweden which featured the Muslim scholar Tariq Ramadan, just-resigned Dutch Parliamentarian Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Bassam Tibi, the critic of Islamism. Berman was meeting both Ramadan and Hirsi Ali for the first time, and their fame preceded them. “He and I sat together, talking,” Berman says of the former, “then he made his presentation. I listened to Ramadan speak, and had a very strong reaction to his presentation. I felt that it was manipulative and a little demagogic and very unpleasant. On the other hand, I was impressed by Hirsi Ali.”

    What puzzled Berman was how his impression of Ramadan clashed markedly with Ramadan’s reception in the media. Berman began to read Ramadan closely, which he describes as his métier. French writer Caroline Fourest had cited Ramadan’s double talk, a habit of saying something moderate to non-Muslim audiences and something different to Muslims. But this wasn’t exactly what Berman found.

    Rather, Ramadan had the habit of openly revering figures like Hassan al-Banna, founder of the Muslim Brotherhood (and Ramadan’s grandfather). Al-Banna was closely associated in the forties with the Palestinian Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini, leader of “the most violent wing of the Arab Revolt.” As Berman would learn, the anti-Semitic and Fascist strain used by these figures, that extremist organizations like al-Qaeda are heir to, was not merely rhetorical.

    In fact, the Mufti had been a star in the Nazi propaganda war during World War II. The Mufti’s appeal to the Nazis was partly a result of his adopting the Nazi idea of a demonic worldwide conspiracy of Jews, which, during the war, he broadcast on Nazi shortwave radio programs across the Arab world. But Nazi awe of the Mufti also had plenty to do with the support graced by al-Banna’s Muslim Brotherhood, as it went through its growth spurt. While other war criminals were facing trials after the war, the Mufti, who had called for eradication of the Jews, received a hero’s welcome in Eqypt. This was thanks to al-Banna.


    Has anyone done a summary article about this Pakistani guy I have never heard of?

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #42 - January 27, 2012, 07:22 PM

    http://www.guernicamag.com/interviews/1756/berman_5_15_10/

    Has anyone done a summary article about this Pakistani guy I have never heard of?

    the link says
    Quote
    The polemicist discusses Tariq Ramadan’s love of extremist sheikhs, Islamism’s ties to Hitler, and the intellectual confusion of liberal journalists.


    whom are you talking about moi?? Tariq Ramadan?? He is NOT from Pakistan., May be you are confused with Tariq Ali who is different from   Tariq Ramadan




     

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #43 - January 27, 2012, 08:00 PM

    Sorry I meant the kind folk in your OP!  Are there wiki articles on them?  A CEMB wiki?

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #44 - February 06, 2012, 01:24 PM

    Islamic Intellectual  Sheikh Imran Nazar Hosein

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H0WgGAcnjE


    Quote
    Sheikh Imran Nazar Hosein (Arabic: نزار عمران حسين) is an International Islamic Philosopher, Scholar and author, specialising in world politics, economy, eschatology , modern socio-economic/political issues and expert on international affairs. He is best-selling author of Jerusalem in the Qur'an.  Imran Nazar Hosein was born on the Caribbean island of Trinidad in 1942 to parents whose ancestors had migrated from India as indentured labourers. He studied Islam, Philosophy and International Relations at several universities and institutions of higher learning. Among them are al-Azhar University in Cairo, Egypt, the Institute of International Relations of the University of the West Indies in Trinidad, the University of Karachi in Pakistan, the Aleemiyah Institute of Islamic Studies in Karachi, Pakistan, and the Graduate Institute of International Studies in Geneva, Switzerland.

    He worked for several years as a Foreign Service Officer in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Government of Trinidad and Tobago.

    He lived in New York for ten years during which time he served as the Director of Islamic Studies for the Joint Committee of Muslim Organizations of Greater New York. He lectured on Islam in several American and Canadian universities, colleges, churches, synagogues, prisons, community halls, etc. He also participated in many inter-faith dialogues with Christian and Jewish scholars while representing Islam in USA. He was the Imam, for sometime, at Masjid Dar al-Qur'an in Long Island, New York. He also led the weekly Jumu'ah prayers and delivered the sermon at the headquarters of the United Nations Organization in Manhattan, New York, once a month for ten years continuously.

    He is a former Principal of the Aleemiyah Institute of Islamic Studies in Karachi, Pakistan, Director of Research of the World Muslim Congress in Karachi, Pakistan, Director of the Islamic Institute for Education and Research in Miami, Florida, and Director of D'awah for Tanzeem-e-Islami of North America.

    He has traveled extensively around the world on Islamic lecture-tours since graduating from the Aleemiyah Institute of Islamic Studies at age 29. And he has also written more than a dozen books on Islam . Jerusalem in the Qur'an - An Islamic View of the Destiny of Jerusalem has become a best seller and has been translated and published in several languages.

    Prof. Dr. Malik Badri, Dean of the International Institute for Islamic Thought and Civilization in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, wrote the Foreword to the book.

    Imran's first book, entitled Islam and Buddhism in the Modern World is the only book on the subject by a Muslim scholar. That book was viewed favourably by Vice Chancellor of University of Karachi and renowned historian, Dr. Ishtiaq Husain Quraishi, Pakistani jurist and philosopher, A. K. Brohi, and Muslim sociologist, Dr. Basharat Ali.

    Maulana Dr. Fazlur Rahman Ansari, a scholar of Islam of the modern age, wrote the Foreword to that book.

    Imran Hosein's three new books, published in 2007, on 'Surah al-Kahf' of the Qur'an and on the subject of 'Signs of the Last Day in the Modern Age', offer insights into interpretation of the Qur'an and the Hadith of Muhammad in so far as they attempt to explain the modern age.


    but let us listen to his Islamic discourse of international politics that couple to 7th century book to 21st century politics...

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #45 - February 06, 2012, 03:15 PM

    well this thread wen down the drain let me pull it out of mud.,

    Oh you poor thing.  Don't you realise?  Your posts are the mud stains and those threads you start are already knee-deep in mud.

    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #46 - February 06, 2012, 04:25 PM

    Oh you poor thing.  Don't you realise?  Your posts are the mud stains and those threads you start are already knee-deep in mud.

    Hmm.. You got that right arX.,  

    let me ban that  rascal for starting new threads in cemb.,  Should we leave the mud stains alone or should we erase them and repaint the board??

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #47 - February 09, 2012, 04:53 PM

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    Muslim sociologist,


    And we have a new oxymoron!

    If someone seriously studies sociology, you remain religious only through rank hypocrisy.

    Quote
    Because of political turmoil in Indonesia, Mr. Geertz later turned his attention to Morocco, where he began doing fieldwork in the ancient village of Sefrou in 1963, returning five more times over the course of his career.

    Profoundly influenced by his fieldwork there, he honed his comparative and historical approach in “Islam Observed” (1968), which the anthropologist Edmund Leach praised as “a highly insightful comparison between Islam as interpreted by Indonesians and Islam interpreted by Moroccans.”


    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/01/obituaries/01geertz.html?pagewanted=all

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #48 - February 09, 2012, 05:01 PM

    It is as if humanity has not got to grips with what we have done.  We have been to the moon, we have wiped out smallpox, we have the power with nuclear weapons to wipe ourselves out several times over.

    And yet  whole chunks of humanity are withdrawing into the uncertain certainties of Allah or the Holy Spirit, instead of facing the dreams and monsters we have achieved and saying OK, let's live with them, let's understand them.

    Because it is all from inside us and our tool making and talking abilities.

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #49 - February 09, 2012, 05:04 PM

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    eschatology


    Islamic intellectuals are OK with that in their cv's?

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #50 - March 12, 2012, 08:03 PM

    Really, is Mawlana Maududi Intellectuals of 20th century!! parrot
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ the hereos of Islam
     Reply #51 - March 30, 2012, 08:36 AM

    Really, is Mawlana Maududi Intellectuals of 20th century!! parrot

     Yes he is ISLAMIC intellectual of 20th century



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ho68X5EF20


    Abul A'ala Maududi[1] (Urdu: ابو الاعلىٰ مودودی – alternative spellings of last name Maudoodi and Modudi) (September 25, 1903 – September 22, 1979) was a Pakistani journalist, theologian, Muslim revivalist leader and political philosopher, and a controversial 20th century Islamist thinker.  He was also a political figure in Pakistan and was the first recipient of King Faisal International Award for his services 1979. He was also the founder of Jamaat-e-Islami, the Islamic revivalist party

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century _ Asghar Ali Engineer
     Reply #52 - October 05, 2012, 10:25 AM

    On that Murder-Mayhem due to that silly movie  Asghar Ali Engineer  writes in Dawn with a heading Freedom of Expression and its limits when it come to Religions   Islam.  Let us read some nuggets from it

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    RECENTLY, disturbances erupted throughout the Muslim world against the film Innocence of Muslims which was deliberately made to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.

    US President Obama refused to ban it or take any action against its makers citing the American law on freedom of expression. Obama said that as long as this law exists in America, he cannot take any action against the producers. Also, it is election time in America and President Obama’s opponents can exploit any slight mistake on his part to reduce his chances of being re-elected.

    [quote]This should be understood and appreciated. It is what it is. Of course the violence against Americans has to be strongly condemned. But the situation has given rise to an important question: can such a right be absolute as American law makes it out to be? Should it have any limits or not? According to this law, there is no limit and religious sentiments do not count. Even outright and wilful blasphemy cannot be barred or punished.

    For example, in a number of New York subway stations posters were recently put up which said, “In any war between the civilised man and the savage, support the civilised man. Support Israel. Defeat Jihad.” The relevant court also upheld the ad as permissible according to American law.

    Rick Jacobs, a Jewish scholar, commented on the ad thus: “What is the message of this ad, directed at the multitude of subway riders of countless faiths and ethnicities?” Mr Jacobs then continues, “By using the term ‘jihad’ in the context of war against savages, the ad paints Islam as inherently violent, evil and bent on overthrowing the Western democracies and their key ally in the Middle East , Israel….”

    This ad implicates all Muslims as wagers of jihad in the sense of war, though hardly a handful of extremists indulge in this and millions of other Muslims take jihad as a spiritual struggle against selfish desires, greed and lust for power. But it is quite legitimate according to American law. Interestingly, an Arab activist who spray-painted one of the posters was arrested. Perhaps we have to understand why such a law was made by America’s founders.
    ............................

    First we must understand what freedom of religion means. Religion is a system of belief and belief is rooted in one’s conscience. In any democracy, or even non-democratic system, freedom of conscience is a very important freedom which cannot be tampered with. The Quran also greatly respects this freedom of conscience when it says “There is no compulsion in religion….” (2:256).

    This right to freedom of conscience or religion can certainly allow a serious critique of certain religious or cultural practices as long as the motive is philosophical.

    Yet this freedom cannot allow ridiculing or attacking other religious belief systems just to humiliate one’s opponent, either by a powerful majority or minority
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    ...................

    well rest of it is yadi yada ...but his point is by quoting these few words.,
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    “There is no compulsion in religion….” (2:256).

    Quran/Islam by those few words   gives freedom of conscience to all people. Now what is this nonsense freedom of conscience??

    by going wiki it defines "Freedom of thought (also called the freedom of conscience or ideas) is the freedom of an individual to hold or consider a fact, viewpoint, or thought, independent of others' viewpoints. It is different from and not to be confused with the concept of freedom of speech or expression."

    Well So what is wrong with that movie? those idiots expressing their freedom of conscience through that stupid movie.. Every one knows they are Insulting Islam and Muslims  but question is., are they using facts from Islam/Islamic books to Insult Islam??  Answer is clearly Yes.. let us watch that clip again..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
     
    Well all of those dialogues are rubbish but they they are taking many of those dialogues from Islamic books..


    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century
     Reply #53 - October 05, 2012, 02:25 PM

    islamic intellectuals   whistling2

    eh...that's an oxymoron
  • Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century
     Reply #54 - October 06, 2013, 02:52 AM

    well nothing went into this thread  for year.. So let me put something in to it and today's Islamic intellectual that I pick is  JAN-E-ALAM KHAKI

       

    Great guy., yOu can see his qualifications in that link  and    Now a days he works as Coordinator, PhD Programme  Assistant Professor, Institute for Educational Development at  that University.   And he recently started writing in to News papers on Islam..

    ‘Muslim’ vs ‘Islamic’  by dr. Jan-E-Alam Khaki

    The quest for questions  by dr. Jan-E-Alam Khaki

    The mystery of 73 sects  by dr. Jan-E-Alam Khaki

    Light and enlightenment  by dr. Jan-E-Alam Khaki

    Work of God by dr. Jan-E-Alam Khaki

    well I read couple of those articles. A very nicely chosen stories for Islamic apologia., any way let me read rest of them and we will pick some nuggets from him....


    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century
     Reply #55 - October 23, 2013, 06:53 PM


    Maududi / Mawdudi (the spelling fluctuates) is arguably the most important Muslim ideologue of the last hundred years (along with Qutb)

    His influence is cancerous, malign, hateful. It is impossible to understand modern Islamic identity-politics, the dynamics of Ummah-ism, especially in regard to Pakistan and the Pakistani diaspora, without studying and understanding this man.

    The British media, for example, when discussing issues of Islam with Mawdudi disciples of the Jamat-e-Islami Muslim Council of Britain and other Muslim activists, do not understand their ideological position. If they knew about Mawdudi, an understanding of British Islamist identity-politics, from the 1989 Rushdie affair onwards, falls into place. It is the final piece of the jigsaw to an appreciation of the origin and ethos of Islamic politics and Islamic assertiveness in Britain. And yet, so little is known about him, relatively speaking, in the mainstream of the UK.

    I would say that one thing this country needs is a fuller understanding of him, his ideology, and his disciples in the modern world. You can't confront, scrutinise and refute Mawdudi-ist snake-oil salesmen if you don't understand him in the first place. We need books to be written about him, television documentaries about him and his influence.




     

    Then it would be wrong to call him an intellectual,  at best he can be called an influential theologian. 

    I don't know it just kinda rubs me the wrong way when the words "intellectual" or "scholar" which should be reserved for real academics are used to describe uneducated mullahs like mawdudi.

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century
     Reply #56 - October 23, 2013, 07:03 PM



    Then it would be wrong to call him an intellectual,  at best he can be called an influential theologian. 

    I don't know it just kinda rubs me the wrong way when the words "intellectual" or "scholar" which should be reserved for real academics are used to describe uneducated mullahs like mawdudi.


    Maududi and Qutb were not uneducated. If you really want to understand islamist ideologues a basic grounding in the principles of marxism–leninism (yes, ML is different to Leninism, before someone asks) and Rousseau's social contract theory is paramount.

    There is no such thing as a real academic. What you're talking about is a hegemonic discourse that potentiates and propagates the status quo in accordance with a vague immanent pacifism. You've got a long way to go, kid.
  • Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century
     Reply #57 - October 23, 2013, 07:09 PM

    Oh and, petty–bourgeois arab nationalism–socialism.
  • Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century
     Reply #58 - October 23, 2013, 08:06 PM

    The first article is pretty good in my opinion. It reflects some of the views I see being parroted without any sort of research behind these views. The second article is just a load of sophistry. When people do question Islam, it's figures and it's set of laws often these are rejected or excused by more sophistry. The 3rd supports communication and the exchange of knowledge and ideas. However it back tracks with the last few lines passing all responsibility on to God while allowing people to use the verse as a cop out to avoid ideas the rest of the articles supports. The 4th, to me, show that Islam is not unique in it's views of Light and knowledge. It is just one of many different philosophy and religion that led to similar outcomes. One does not need to ascribe to a set religion thus detracts from the idea that Islam is the only way. The 5th is just sophistry to appeal to the faithful. Sure religion has inspired many not just Islam. This like the 4th article shows Islam is not unique or the only way. It also superimposes all developments inspired by God into one God concept, Allah, which is not held by all religions.

    Just my 2 cents.
  • Islamic Intellectuals of 20th century
     Reply #59 - October 24, 2013, 12:05 AM

    Maududi and Qutb were not uneducated. If you really want to understand islamist ideologues a basic grounding in the principles of marxism–leninism (yes, ML is different to Leninism, before someone asks) and Rousseau's social contract theory is paramount.

    There is no such thing as a real academic. What you're talking about is a hegemonic discourse that potentiates and propagates the status quo in accordance with a vague immanent pacifism. You've got a long way to go, kid.

     

    Real academic are the ones who conduct research and then have it peer reviewed.  An academic is not something anyone who has read a couple of books can call themselves.

    And unless you can point out any peer reviewed research done by Maududi I will stand by my point that he is not worthy of being considered a Scholar or acedmic

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
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