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  • Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     OP - April 16, 2010, 11:03 AM

    Great article from the Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/apr/15/nawal-el-saadawi-egyptian-feminist

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    'I am becoming more radical with age," says Nawal El Saadawi, laughing. "I have noticed that writers, when they are old, become milder. But for me it is the opposite. Age makes me more angry."

    This is a startling admission. It is hard to imagine how El Saadawi – the Egyptian writer, activist and one of the leading feminists of her generation – could become more radical. Wearing an open denim shirt, with her hair pulled into two plaits, she looks like the rebel she has always been. It is only the pure white hair, and the lines that spread across her face as she smiles, that give away the fact that she is 79. She has, she tells me, "decided not to die young but to live as much as I can".

    El Saadawi already seems to have lived more lives than most. She trained as a doctor, then worked as a psychiatrist and university lecturer, and has published almost 50 novels, plays and collections of short stories. Her work, which tackles the problems women face in Egypt and across the world, has always attracted outrage, but she never seems to have balked at this; she has continued to address controversial issues such as prostitution, domestic violence and religious fundamentalism in her writing.

    This has come at considerable cost. In 1972, her non-fiction book Women and Sex (which included criticism of female genital mutilation) led to her losing her job as director general of public health for the Egyptian ministry of health. In 1981, her outspoken political views led to her being charged with crimes against the state and jailed for three months – she used the time to write Memoirs From The Women's Prison on a roll of toilet paper, with an eyebrow pencil smuggled in by a fellow prisoner. In 1993 she fled to the US after death threats were issued against her by religious groups.

    Her work continues to be explosive. Her play, God Resigns in the Summit Meeting – in which God is questioned by Jewish, Muslim and Christian prophets and finally quits – proved so controversial that, she says, her Arabic publishers destroyed it under police duress. And recently her criticism of religion, primarily on the basis that it oppresses women, has prompted a flurry of court cases, including unsuccessful legal attempts both to strip her of her nationality and to forcibly dissolve her marriage.

    As El Saadawi prepares to talk about her life at a PEN literary festival on Friday, she is unrepentant. "It's all worth it," she assures me. "If I went back I would do it all again. That is what I have learned from my experiences, that I was on the right track." Her energy, she insists, comes from the 10 to 15 letters she receives every day from people who say their lives have been changed by her writing. "A young man came to me in Cairo with his new bride. He said, I want to introduce my wife to you and thank you. Your books have made me a better man. Because of them I wanted to marry not a slave, but a free woman."

    El Saadawi is "a novelist first, a novelist second, a novelist third", she says, but it is feminism that unites her work. "For me feminism includes everything," she says. "It is social justice, political justice, sexual justice . . . It is the link between medicine, literature, politics, economics, psychology and history. Feminism is all that. You cannot understand the oppression of women without this."

    She says she has been a feminist "since I was a child. I was swimming against the tide all my life." Her eight brothers and sisters "were totally different. Some of my sisters are now veiled and they think I am very, very radical. They love me, and we see each other, but we don't visit much."

    In her first autobiography, A Daughter of Isis, she recalls her outrage when she began to realise daughters were not considered equal to sons. When her grandmother told her, "a boy is worth 15 girls at least . . . Girls are a blight," she stamped her foot in fury.

    In that same book she writes about the horror of female circumcision. "When I was six, the daya (midwife) came along holding a razor, pulled out my clitoris from between my thighs and cut it off. She said it was the will of God and she had done his will . . . I lay in a pool of blood. After a few days the bleeding stopped . . . But the pain was there like an abscess deep in my flesh . . . I did not know what other parts in my body there were that might need to be cut off in the same way." Later, while working as a doctor, she saw for herself the terrible physical damage female genital mutilation could cause; she campaigned for 50 years, she says, for it to be banned in Egypt. A ban was finally instituted in 2008, but she says the practice "still happens – it is even increasing. Some religious leaders talk against it, but others are for it."

    Circumcision wasn't the only horror El Saadawi faced as a child. Brought up in a middle-class Egyptian household, she was expected to become a child bride, but refused; she blackened her teeth and dropped coffee over one would-be suitor who came to call. "When I was a child it was normal that girls in my village would marry at 10 or 11," she says. "Now, of course, the government is standing against that because it is unhealthy. And it happens much less. But we are having a relapse again, because of poverty and religious fundamentalism."

    El Saadawi's desire to study was so great that her parents were eventually convinced she would benefit from university. She believes that her radical views were formed, at least in part, by training as a doctor. "When I dissected the body it opened my eyes," she says. "Also, I think I have the gene of my grandmother who was a rebel. My sisters and brothers took another gene."

    At medical school she fell in love with a fellow student, Ahmed Helmi, who was engaged in the fight against the British occupation of the Suez. They married and had a daughter – but divorced when he came back from the fighting embittered and turned to drugs. She later married a lawyer, who "said to me you have to choose between me and your writing. I said my writing." In her second volume of autobiography, Walking Through Fire, she describes how he refused to grant her a divorce, announcing that, "It is the man who decides to divorce and not the woman"; in desperation, she threatened him with her scalpel. For the last 45 years she has been married to the novelist, doctor, and former long-term political prisoner, Sherif Hetata, with whom she had her second child, a son.

    El Saadawi's daughter, Mona Helmi, has followed in her footsteps, becoming a writer and poet. In 2007, Mona became the target of controversy when "she wrote a beautiful article on Mother's Day," says El Saadawi. "She asked, 'What present can I give to my mother – shall I give her shoes? A dress? The gift I will give is to carry her name.'" The article was signed Mona Nawal Helmi. "They took her to court – they said it was heresy because in the Qur'an women should take the name of the father not the mother."

    Although Mona won the case, El Sadaawi says that this, and another court case in 2002 – brought by a lawyer who sought to have El Sadaawi forcibly divorced on the basis of apostasy (abandonment of religion) – has left her bruised. "I feel I am betrayed by my country. I should be awarded the highest prize in Egypt for what I have done regarding injustices against women and children, and for my creative work." But she says her writing has given her an alternative sense of identity. "Home to me is the world because my books have been translated into more than 30 languages. People feel they know me and the minute they talk about my life or books I feel at home. Home is where you are appreciated, safe and protected, creative, and where you are loved – not where you are put in prison."

    She still refuses to tone down her work. "I am very critical of all religions," she says. "We, as women, are oppressed by all these religions." It is religious extremism, she believes, that is the biggest threat to women's liberation today. "There is a backlash against feminism all over the world today because of the revival of religions," she says. "We have had a global and religious fundamentalist movement." She fears that the rise of religion is holding back progress regarding issues such as female circumcision, especially in Egypt.

    In a bid to address this, she has helped to found the Egyptian chapter of the Global Solidarity for Secular society. She believes religion should be a personal matter, and approves of France's ban on all religious symbols, including the hijab. "Education should be totally secular. I am not telling people not to believe in God, but it should be a personal matter which should be done at home."

    Despite the fact that her sisters wear the veil, she refuses to accept it as a free choice. "What do we mean by choice? It is pressure, but it is hidden pressure – she is not aware of it. I was exposed to different pressures from my sisters. We are all the products of our economic, social and political life and our education. Young people today are living in the era of the fundamentalist groups."

    El Saadawi says that she is dismayed by the relaxed attitude of young women who do not realise what previous generations of feminists have fought for. "Young people are afraid of the price of being free. I tell them, don't be, it is better than being oppressed, than being a slave. It's all worth it. I am free."

    And, she adds, there are more battles for her on the horizon. "A new university opened in Egypt and I was asked to teach, but the top people said no. They are afraid. So that is the next thing. I will work towards teaching in Egypt." A fighter to the last.[/b]


    I LOVE this woman!

    I've read her autobiography A Daughter of Isis, great book! 

    Nawal El Saadawi is one of those people I would pay to meet!

    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #1 - April 16, 2010, 11:11 AM


    She sounds like a brazen hussy. Off with her head.

    In all seriousness, she got in trouble with the hysterical-beards a few years ago when she wrote about the pagan roots of Kaaba and Islam.

    What a woman  Afro

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #2 - April 16, 2010, 12:15 PM

    Nawal El Saadawi is an amazing woman!
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #3 - April 16, 2010, 12:46 PM

    She sounds like a brazen hussy. Off with her head.

    In all seriousness, she got in trouble with the hysterical-beards a few years ago when she wrote about the pagan roots of Kaaba and Islam.

    What a woman  Afro


    What I'd love her to do is a historical account of what the Arabs were truly like before the arrival of Islam - then Muslims will wake up and stop believing the bullshit that Islam came to 'rescue' the Arabs. Salmon Rushdie has already touched on the ludicrous nature of pre-Islamic history as told through Islamic historians, its time that such a critique appeared in a book form.

    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #4 - April 16, 2010, 02:30 PM

    Nour opens a thread Dr. Nawal El Saadawi withe a heading
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    Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist

    I am not sure why some one labels her  as radical feminist., That is not right word for her . I would say first of all she is "Humanist" next she is feminist who is fighting Rubbish in Muslim society specially in Egypt for a long time since 70s. I wrote about her in FFI forum 7 years back at
    http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum2/viewtopic.php?p=39903#39903

    Also read other women folk fighting for their rights with-in Islam for a long time..
    http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=1120&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

    Any way let us watch her talk..

    Arthur Miller Freedom to Write Lecture by Nawal El Saadawi
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jue04c1_wkY  

    That is an hr lecture..



    I say she is the role model for every one., Not just for muslims, Not just foe women but every Human being.. Mindless Fools in Islam say

    1). Khadija bint Khuwaylid: Ist wife of Mohammed

    2). Ayesha bint Abu Bakr: 3rd wife of Mohammed

    3). Fatimah bint Muhammad: Fatimah was the fifth child of Muhammad and Khadijah

    4). Barakah: The servant girl of Amina "mother of Mohammed" to whom Amina gave Muhammad to take care.

    5). Ramlah bint Abu Sufyan: 10th wife of Mohammed

    .. yadi..yadi Mr Muhammad's wives as role models to Modern Muslimah..

    Fucking IDIOTS ruined the life millions of women specially Muslim women with their brainless brain washing of kids..Brainless Baboon with beards love to keep women as slaves of men..

    Please watch her. She is inspirational  speaker
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #5 - April 19, 2010, 11:40 PM

    I recently discovered this brilliant author, speaker, doctor, teacher....

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    Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist

    Writer Nawal El Saadawi has braved prison, exile and death threats in her fight against female oppression. And she isn't about to give up now

    (Clicky for piccy!)
    Nawal El Saadawi: 'I have a rebel gene.' Photograph: Felix Clay

    'I am becoming more radical with age," says Nawal El Saadawi, laughing. "I have noticed that writers, when they are old, become milder. But for me it is the opposite. Age makes me more angry."



    Her official site: http://www.nawalsaadawi.net
    Nawal on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nawal_El_Saadawi

    Couple of videos of her:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugOpbZLhF1k

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9WGarcKxBU

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    I'm amazed at her intelligence, her eloquence, her rebellious nature, her lifetime of achievements and the fact that even at almost 80 she hasn't given up on her passions and her ideals, and she's not afraid to challenge and confront the status quo. Afro

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #6 - April 19, 2010, 11:48 PM


    There was a thread about her the other day.

    And yeah, she's excellent  Afro

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #7 - April 19, 2010, 11:51 PM

    Threads merged. Thanks for the heads up billy!

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #8 - April 20, 2010, 07:11 PM


    Is it just me, or is she too arrogant in that video?

    "In every time and culture there are pressures to conform to the prevailing prejudices. But there are also, in every place and epoch, those who value the truth; who record the evidence faithfully. Future generations are in their debt." -Carl Sagan

  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #9 - April 20, 2010, 07:22 PM

    Infidel
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    Is it just me, or is she too arrogant in that video?

    how are you doing Infidel?? which part of the interview of her you feel that she was arrogant??

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #10 - April 20, 2010, 07:38 PM

    Infidel how are you doing Infidel?? which part of the interview of her you feel that she was arrogant??

    I am fine dear yeezevee. Thanks  Smiley

    As for the arrogant bits, my radar kinda went flicking between 2:09 and 2:55 .
    Specially the "If I win Nobel, and I will win it,....."

    I am not saying she's bad. She has said some decent stuff in that video, and maybe her writings are absolutely amazing as well. I just feel a bit uneasy when people talk in a kinda arrogant way.

    "In every time and culture there are pressures to conform to the prevailing prejudices. But there are also, in every place and epoch, those who value the truth; who record the evidence faithfully. Future generations are in their debt." -Carl Sagan

  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #11 - April 20, 2010, 08:03 PM

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    I just feel a bit uneasy when people talk in a kinda arrogant way.

    Well you know she is 70+ year old lady; fighting establishment in ISLAMIC LAND  for 50  years of her  life  and some BUM comes on TV  and asks silly questions by taking a word of some other fools from Egypt, so yes she gets a bit upset..


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #12 - April 20, 2010, 08:43 PM

    Is it just me, or is she too arrogant in that video?


    I have to say I also thought she sounded a little arrogant especially the way she was boasting she could have been president etc...
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #13 - April 20, 2010, 08:50 PM

    I love this woman. I have always been a fan since I known about her books some 20 years ago. And about the arrogance bit, she should be arrogant. She was betrayed by her country several times. She managed to get Female Genital Mutilation banned officially in Eygpt, but the credit, unfortunately but expectedly, went to the first lady instead Suzan Mubarak. I admire her very much and I love how she shows of her white hair and liberal modern outfits. I really do hope she wins the nobel prize, becasue she really really deserves it and she knows it.  Afro

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  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #14 - April 20, 2010, 09:08 PM

    I really do hope she wins the nobel prize, becasue she really really deserves it and she knows it.  Afro


    Damn straight she does!

    Although I don't particularly like her fiction I have found her non-fiction to be quite good.

    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #15 - April 20, 2010, 09:15 PM

    In one of her interviews she criticized male circumcision and one of the guys sitting went all crazy and said that this is the sunnah of the prophet how come that infidel say something like (Edit: says something like that). I asked him about a "very controversial issue" the Egyptian society and it is are women allowed to reshape their eye brows. He said no ofcourse not, Allah created them like that. So i asked him then if Allah created a man like that why do we have to circumcise at all. And the answer as you all sure enough guessed, it is because Allah ordered us to do so.
      
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #16 - April 20, 2010, 09:31 PM

    It's strange how male circumcision is considered such an essential duty for every Muslim, yet it is not even mentioned once in the Qur'an.

    I've read references to circumcision in Hadith, but from memory they don't make it a compulsory duty or essential part of faith.

    Maybe I missed them - if anyone knows of any I'd be interested to hear them.
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #17 - April 20, 2010, 09:38 PM

    Not even mentioned in strong hadiths. It is not in the Quran. Mohamed was not circumcised. And Jews do it, although strong sunnah hadiths clearly orders Muslims to differ from Jews. I have no idea either why Muslims hang on this horrible cultural tradition.  Huh?

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  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #18 - April 20, 2010, 09:55 PM

    It must take an enormous amount of courage and passion for her convictions, for her to achieve everything she has achieved in her life. From a little village where she was forced to undergo genital mutilation, to where she is now at almost 80, it's her fiery, indomitable spirit that must have driven her to write, teach, study, and break through the barriers she's broken through. Especially for a woman from a Muslim background, it takes a huge amount of energy to fight through multiple layers of oppression.

    If she sounds arrogant sometimes, it may just be because (a)older people do tend to become more authoritative sounding, which always irks younger people, and (b)her background and her lifelong fight against various oppressors has meant she's had to sound forceful  and be confident in her convictions, had to use all her might to challenge those who'd rather she shut up and disappeared (like many that that interviewer was quoting to her).

    I admire her inner strength and totally agree that she deserves many more prizes and much more recognition than she already has received. I just found out about her! I'm beating myself over the head... why didn't anyone introduce me to her before?! Why are women (and men) like her not given the prominence and celebration than so many others get... it's mind boggling. I'm not saying she's the epitome of perfection, she's a human being after all. But that's been her fight, to be seen and treated as a human being, not just an object of desire or an object of derision. I can't imagine how much inner strength it's taken her to get to where she is now, alive, thriving, passionate, with her sanity still pretty intact.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #19 - April 20, 2010, 10:08 PM

    Allat,

    well here goes a few more people in case you do not know about them

    1. Tarek Hegazi
    2. Hassan Hanafi
    3. Ibtehal Al Khateeb
    4. Nasr Hamid Abo Zaid
    5. Sayed Al Qimni

  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #20 - April 20, 2010, 10:15 PM

    Thanks kimo! Smiley

    I will look these people up.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #21 - April 20, 2010, 11:38 PM

    Thanks kimo! Smiley

    I will look these people up.


    You are welcome allat, i do not know if you speak arabic but if you do www.enarchive.com will be a great resource if you find any books in english please post links..
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #22 - April 21, 2010, 12:34 AM

    Great woman !

    Thanks guys for the links and videos. All bookmarked.
  • Nawal Al Saadawi
     Reply #23 - July 26, 2010, 07:20 AM



    Nawal El Saadawi is a  world renowned writer.  She is a novelist, a  psychiatrist, and    author   of more   than forty   books   fiction   and   non fiction.  She writes  in  Arabic   and lives  in  Egypt.  Her novels and her books on the situation of women have had a deep effect on successive generations of young women and men  over the last five decades.

    As a result of her literary and scientific writings she has had to face numerous difficulties and even dangers in her life.  In 1972, she lost her job in the Egyptian Ministry of Health because of her book “Women and Sex” published in Arabic in Cairo (1969) and banned by the political and religious authorities, because in some chapters of the book she wrote against Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) and linked sexual problems to political and economic oppression.  The magazine Health, which she founded and had edited for more than three years, was closed down in 1973.  In September 1981 President Sadat put her in prison.  She was released at the end of November 1981, two months after his assassination.  She wrote her book “Memoirs” from the Women’s Prison on a roll of toilette paper and an eyebrow pencil smuggled to her cell by an imprisoned young woman in the prostitutes ward. From 1988 to 1993 her name figured on death lists issued by fanatical religious   political  organizations.

    On 15 June, 1991, the government issued a decree which closed down the Arab Women’s Solidarity Association over which she presides and handed over its funds to the association called Women in Islam.  Six months before this decree the government closed down the magazine Noon, published by the Arab Women’s Solidarity Association.  She was editor-in-chief of the magazine.

    During the summer of 2001, three of her books were banned at Cairo International Book Fair.  She was accused of apostasy in 2002 by a fundamentalist lawyer who raised a court case against her to be forcibly divorced from her husband, Dr. Sherif Hetata.  She won the case due to Egyptian,  Arab    and   international solidarity.  On 28 January, 2007, Nawal El Saadawi and her daughter Mona Helmy,  a poet and writer, were accused of apostasy and interrogated by the General Prosecutor in Cairo because of their writings   to   honor   the   name   of  the  mother  .

    They   won   the   case   in   2008  .   Their   efforts    led    to    a  new   law   of   the   child   in   Egypt  in  2008   ,   giving     children  born  outside  marriage  the  right   to   carry   the   name   of   the   mother  .   Also   FGM    is   banned   in   Egypt    by   this   law  in  2008   .    Nawal   El  Saadawi   was   writing   and   fighting   against   FGM    for   more   than    fifty  years  .

    Her   play “God  Resigns  At  the  Summit  Meeting”  was  banned  in  Egypt during  November  2006 and  she    faced    a new  trial in Cairo court raised against her by Al Azhar in February 2007, accusing her of apostasy and heresy because of her new play. She   won   the  case  on 13 May  2008.

    Nawal El Saadawi had been awarded several national and international literary prizes, lectured in many universities, and participated in many international and national conferences.

    On May 3rd,  2009,  in   New  York she presented the Arthur MillerLecture   at  the Pen International   Literary Festival   . ,
     
    Her works have been translated into more than thirty languages all over the world, and some of them are taught in a number of universities in different countries.

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    http://www.nawalsaadawi.net/

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  • Re: Nawal Al Saadawi
     Reply #24 - July 26, 2010, 11:09 AM

    Awesome! Afro

    German ex-Muslim forumMy YouTubeList of Ex-Muslims
    Wikis: en de fr ar tr
    CEMB-Chat
    I'm on an indefinite break...
  • Re: Nawal Al Saadawi
     Reply #25 - July 26, 2010, 01:54 PM

    You guys already have a folder on that wonderful  person

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=9846.0

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Nawal Al Saadawi
     Reply #26 - July 26, 2010, 01:55 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1brUb7Yezw8&feature=youtube_gdata

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  • Re: Nawal Al Saadawi
     Reply #27 - July 26, 2010, 01:57 PM

    You guys already have a folder on that wonderful  person

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=9846.0


    Oops, mods please merge! Thanks YeeZeeVee Afro

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  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #28 - July 26, 2010, 02:20 PM

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    Freedom to dress,to undress, to veil,not to veil,to be naked is not freedom but an ILLUSION!


     clap clap

    A great lady!



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Nawal El Saadawi: Egypt's radical feminist
     Reply #29 - July 26, 2010, 02:21 PM

    You are welcome allat, i do not know if you speak arabic but if you do www.enarchive.com will be a great resource if you find any books in english please post links..


    Try Tarek Heggy.  I like his essays.

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
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