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 Topic: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China

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  • Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     OP - March 11, 2010, 02:57 PM

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    Inside the cat and dog meat market in China

    Guangzhou, China (CNN) -- Dogs bark and whine behind high chain-link fences, some of them gnawing the wire so hard they bleed at the mouths while cats packed into crowded cages cower in fear if anyone approaches.

    This isn't a pet store -- it's a meat market in Guangzhou, a city in southern China where eating cats and dogs is common practice.

    At the Han River Dog Meat Restaurant in central Guangzhou, diners can choose from a long list of menu items, including dog soup, dog steak, dog with tofu and more. In the kitchen, the chef chops up meat for dog hot pot, one of the more popular dishes. Most customers like it spicy.

    "Dog meat is good for your health and metabolism," explains Li, the hostess who declined to give her first name. "In the summer it helps you sweat."

    Should cat and dog meat be banned?

    But these local restaurants may have to find a new specialty. The Chinese government is considering legislation that would make eating cats and dogs illegal.

    Professor Chang Jiwen of the Chinese Academy of the Social Sciences is one of the law's top campaigners. "Cats and dogs are loyal friends to humans," he said. "A ban on eating them would show China has reached a new level of civilization."

    Eating dog meat is a long-standing culinary tradition not just in China, but also Korea. Cat meat can be found on the menu in China, Vietnam and even parts of South America.

    The Chinese government has signaled a willingness to take the meat off the market. To avoid upsetting international visitors during the Beijing Olympics, officials ordered dog meat off the menus at local markets. Officials in Guangzhou have warned vendors to stop selling it ahead of the Asian Games which will be held there later this year.

    The ban on eating dog and cat meat is part of a larger proposal to toughen laws on animal welfare. Individual violators could face up to 15 days in prison and a small fine. Businesses found guilty of selling the meat risk fines up to 500,000 yuan ($73,500.)

    The legislation is gaining support from China's growing number of pet owners. With living standards rising and disposable income growing, more Guangzhou residents are investing in house pets.

    "I would never eat dog meat," said Louisa Yong, as she clutches her pet cocker spaniel. "It's so cruel!"

    Meat vendors have a different view.

    "The dogs you raise at home, you shouldn't eat," said Pan, a butcher who also declined to give his first name. "The kind raised for eating, we can eat those."

    Many of the dogs and cats sold for meat are specially raised on farms. But Chang said there is always a chance they're someone's lost or stolen pet.

    In anticipation of the new ban, dog and cat meat has become more difficult to find, though some vendors say they will keep selling it as long as they can.

    "The legislation will definitely affect our restaurant," said Li. "We'll just wait to see the result."

    And it seems restaurants don't necessarily need to change their menus anytime soon. According to the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, the law prohibiting cat and dog meat could take as long as a decade to pass. Until then it's a la carte, from the cage into the kitchen.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/03/09/china.animals/index.html?hpt=Sbin


    This actually made me thoughts jump on two trains.

    1 - The West isn't the only world that is being changed from the outside in.  For instance the EDL et al, are pissed off with foreigners changing their beloved country, and yet the West is enforcing changes in other countries.

    No flying a flag in the west, to not cooking up a dog in the east, change happens to every country.

    2 - I do understand our aversion to eating our pets, I certainly wouldn't order a meal of dog or cat as things are now, I am too conditioned to be against it.  Far beyond any latent islamic pork taboo, I think the pet one is above it.

    However, what is the difference between eating one animal over another?  Why is one better than the other?  Who makes these rules and why do we have to follow them?

    If the only food to hand or starvation was dog or cat, I would eat it without a doubt.  I know some who claim to be too squeamish to ever eat it no matter the circumstances, but I bet they would.  We have a survival instinct us humans.

    Anyway back on topic, what do you think about eating cat or dog?

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #1 - March 11, 2010, 03:05 PM


    I'd taste dog and cat meat out of curiousity to see what it tastes like. Having said that, we have given these animals human characteristics and that's why we think these animals are worthy of being saved from this fate, rather than other animals like sheep.

    Two things - look at a lamb. Its one of the cutest things you will ever see. Its big brown eyes staring up at you, the cute bleating sounds it makes, its cute shuffle when it walks - nothing more sweet and cute. And yet, we don't give a shit. We like nothing more than lamb chops or roast lamb on our Sunday roast. Why? Why the empathy with dogs and not lambs? OK, I get it. Dogs are domesticated 'part of the family', so we think of them as semi-human. But think about this.

    In India, alot of orthodox Hindus consider the cow to be a sacred animal and yet we eat that with no compunction, and they find that repulsive. So there is a lot of cultural conditioning here.




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  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #2 - March 11, 2010, 03:23 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsxII4ePtCg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4kMI7WhG28

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M71Ds0h8qak


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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #3 - March 11, 2010, 03:27 PM

    My problem isn't so much with eating dogs and cats, they're just animals like any other, my problem is the living conditions they live in. If it means restricting the eating of dog food to ensure that animals are being humanely treated / looked after / slaughtered then I agree that there should be restrictions.





    I couldn't care less if it ends up on our plate, it's still an animal and if it's alive then it should be dignified with basic care...
  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #4 - March 11, 2010, 03:36 PM

    Personally I am against eating cat and dog meat, but that is due partly to my cultural conditioning and also because I have a HUGE soft spot for any feline, big or small.

    I see no difference between how those poor dogs and cats are treated compared to battery farmed chickens.

    On the other hand, in a country like China with an exploding population and food shortages eating cat or dog would make logical sense to them.  I still find it repulsive though.

    My uncle ate dog meat when he was stationed in Korea with the US Navy, I asked him if it tasted like chicken, he said it does, only gamier.

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  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #5 - March 11, 2010, 03:39 PM


    I wonder if it has a bark to its bite.




    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #6 - March 11, 2010, 04:21 PM

    They treat all food-source animals like that. Not just dogs.

    I would have to be pretty hungry to consider buying one of these.


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  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #7 - March 11, 2010, 04:26 PM

    WTF is that?  wacko

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #8 - March 11, 2010, 04:29 PM

    [quote author=Nour link=topic=9122.msg230268#msg230268 date=1268321782
    On the other hand, in a country like China with an exploding population and food shortages eating cat or dog would make logical sense to them.  I still find it repulsive though.
    [/quote]

    Apart from China and a few other places, I think,most humans only eat herbivores.

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  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #9 - March 11, 2010, 05:29 PM

    WTF is that?  wacko


    A think they might be pekingeses

    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah." -- Mike Tyson
  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #10 - March 11, 2010, 05:30 PM

    vomit

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #11 - March 11, 2010, 05:44 PM

    Forgive my impetuousness but a dog will lick you when you are lonely. You think a cow will do that for you? Or a lamb? How can we kill that which gives us so much pleasure?
  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #12 - March 11, 2010, 05:48 PM

    Yes, but for some, not even cats or dogs give them pleasure.  My friend would rather shave a cat than touch one, and a sister of mine won't even come into the house if my pets are in it.   Roll Eyes 


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #13 - March 11, 2010, 05:50 PM

    That's some weird shit.


    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #14 - March 11, 2010, 05:51 PM

    They treat all food-source animals like that. Not just dogs.

    I would have to be pretty hungry to consider buying one of these.

    (Clicky for piccy!)


    That may be the coolest picture I've ever seen.

    fuck you
  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #15 - March 11, 2010, 05:55 PM

    Forgive my impetuousness but a dog will lick you when you are lonely. You think a cow will do that for you? Or a lamb? How can we kill that which gives us so much pleasure?

    And a pack of dogs might eat you if they are starving,
    Cows won't do it Tongue

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  • Re: Inside the cat and dog meat market in China
     Reply #16 - March 11, 2010, 05:56 PM

    Apart from China and a few other places, I think,most humans only eat herbivores.

    I think you mean... most humans don't eat carnivore mammals.
    Cause pigs and chickens are not herbivores.

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