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  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #750 - August 08, 2017, 01:16 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RqByENW-dw

    well that song mutated in to different fields ..different people sing with different tunes ... but that "Jeevay Jeevay Pakistan'  was written  in London in 1971" By Mr. Nawabzada Mirza Jamiluddin Ahmed Khan also known as Jamiluddin Aali, was a renowned Pakistani poet.  I am not sure whether they were really bad times but they were bad times for so-called Islamic Faith Laced patriotic brains  of the country ..Country Split in to Bangladesh and whatever left  ....

    any ways  Nawabzada Mirza Jamiluddin Ahmed Khan


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    Nawabzada Mirza Jamiluddin Ahmad Khan was born to a literary family in Delhi, India on 20 January 1925. His father Amiruddin Ahmed Khan was Nawab of Loharu and his mother Syeda Jamila Baigum was direct descendant of Khwaja Mir Dard and was the fourth wife of Amiruddin Khan ..

     Aali was elected as the member of the Senate for a six-year term with support of Muttahida Qaumi Movement.[3] Aali wrote many books as well as songs. He wrote the song "Jeevay Jeevay Pakistan" during 1965 Indo-Pak war which became popular. The song was sung by Shahnaz Begum and was released on August 14, 1971. In International Women's Year (1976), he wrote the song "Hum Maain, Hum Behnain, Hum Baitiyan". Aali also wrote a song "Jo Nam Wohi Pehchan, Pakistan" at the request of for Ghulam Ishaq Khan in 1986. He was also writer of the song "Mera Inam Pakistan" by Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan

    Now looking at the  country and looking at his party that elected him 4 or 5 times to Assembly.,I wonder about his thoughts on Land of Pure ...

    Often when I think about Patriotism ... these thoughts float into the brain  ..







    If you add Islam the faith(for that matter any faith) and Patriotism  together to make  a nation  then one time or other time the people of such countries will suffer..

    ISLAM THE ARAB IMPERIALISM  by Anwar Shaikh.

    Indeed what Anwar Shaikh said long time ago is a fact .,  Let me slightly modify that keeping  Quran  and alleged Prophet of Islam  in mind  ..

    Irrespective of what Quran says and irrespective of the FIRST PREACHER OF  ISLAM  Muhammad life style.,  who died much before Quran became a book and Islam became a faith based war mongers.,    Islam is Arab imperialism of 8th century and the real followers of the faith would love to take back all humanity into that 8th century and force the folks live like 8th century desert dwelling Arab nomadic fools....
     

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #751 - October 06, 2017, 07:17 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGoBA6FqDH0


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWEwzSb5LX8

    Oreeye   ..Oryia  you are   fucking  psychopath .,   mentally retarded  Jatt Muslim  spewing hate on television so criminals in Islam  literally murder people  in the name of Islam  ..It is shame mentally retards becomes leaders in Islamic political talk shows...



    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #752 - October 08, 2017, 12:26 PM

    'Only dialogue can resolve Kashmir issue,' concur former ISI, RAW chiefs

    well that is the news today

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGEVbUK05Vw

    That guy knows more about Indian subcontinent problems than any politician of US of A    Cheesy

    I TELL YOU GUYS  & THE READERS.,

       I CAN SOLVE ALL PROBLEMS ACROSS THE GLOBE  AROUND Muslims and Non-Muslims .. religious/non religious.. political/nonpolitical problems ... Israel Problems ... India  Problems.... Iran Problems... Indonesia problems  and all other problems with faith   with a single  statement  that I often   read  from our CEMB Hassan's  posts..

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #753 - October 22, 2017, 01:57 PM

    You Go girl... Fight away ..whole word is behind you

    The Oscar double winner..Pakistan's Sharmeen Obaid Chinoy:
     

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    Indeed that is power of films.. power of internet and all the power to exposing filth in the society ...   ...Indians and Bollywoodies  ....   you can never win a Oscar., So  Eat The Oscars from one of the best Directors of Pakistan.."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzWeGo36WBc

    well  that is what wrote on  Sharmeen Obaid Chinoy  winning Oscar .,   and today's news says..

    Quote
    ]Sharmeen Obaid's first immersive installation hopes to transport you back to 1947 Partition era[/size]
    Take a trip down memory lane with #HOME1947 which will display photography, sound, short documentaries and installations ..  The human experience of a mass migration remains mostly unknown to generations of people born after Pakistan came into being. We've only heard stories or maybe read a personal account or two circulating on social media.

    Filmmaker Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy's latest interactive exhibition is set to just change that.

    The two-time Academy Award-winner is set to premiere her first immersive experiential exhibition, HOME1947, at the Manchester International Festival (MIF) 2017. Chinoy will also be the first Pakistani film-maker to debut her project at MIF this 2017.

    As the refugee crisis continues to affect millions across the world, HOME1947 shows the audience, partition not through the words of historians and politicians, but through the eyes of those who lived through it.

    This exhibition collects stories from people who left their homes and crossed borders during the 1947 partition of the Indian subcontinent. It is based on exploring what the concept of home meant to them......

      well  there is more at that link  and let me watch on what  Sharmeen  says on her documentary

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yFWJWMJkTs

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #754 - October 30, 2017, 10:44 AM

    The Story of Land of  Pure and its RULING THUGS ... 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkyFwkq9eek

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_TxuJyhCVM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkyFwkq9eek


    Islam?  what is it?   Where is it??

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #755 - November 09, 2017, 12:38 PM

    Kamila Shamsie  of Pakistan Heritage in London

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    Kamila Naheed Shamsie   is a Pakistani novelist who writes in the English language.  hamsie is the daughter of journalist and editor Muneeza Shamsie and granddaughter of Begum Jahanara Habibullah.  She was brought up in Karachi where she attended Karachi Grammar School.  She has a BA in Creative Writing from Hamilton College,  and an MFA from the MFA Program for Poets & Writers at the University of Massachusetts Amherst,  where she was influenced by the Kashmiri poet Agha Shahid Ali. In 2007, she moved to London and is now a dual national of the UK and Pakistan


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO1ss-_H1ek

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G_QOHjfulM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy8JA7MA6QI


    I want People of Pakistani heritage to read her and watch her ... ..worth reading her books ..worth watching her ...


    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #756 - November 10, 2017, 05:36 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywOKx6biMI4


    Criminal thinking and criminals in Power that use Islam for their needs....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOWL76jV5x0

    Lies  and Lies .,   stories of lies.,    stories with lies ..continue for ever even on very recent history of Islam in Land of pure

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #757 - November 15, 2017, 11:56 AM

    Pakistani capital Islamabad 'under siege' over blasphemy row  says news of today



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    Supporters of an Islamist cleric have blocked a main entrance to the capital since last week, demanding the resignation of the country's law minister over a blasphemy row. Shah Meer Baloch reports from Islamabad. "Our sole demand is the authorities act against those members of parliament who amended the constitutional clause related to the 'finality' of Prophet Muhammad," Hafiz Ullah Alvi of the hardline Tehreek-i-Labaik Pakistan party told DW.
    The controversy erupted in October, when the government amended electoral laws, including the wording of an oath for lawmakers that dealt with a declaration of Prophet Muhammad as god's final prophet. After protests from religious groups, the government restored the oath in its original form.
    "The government said it was a clerical error. We don't  think it was the case. It was done deliberately by the West's agents, who are also members of our parliament," Alvi said.

     That is today's news...

    what do we expect when ROGUES OF ISLAM speak rubbish day in day out in all media??

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu4yVzp7AAo

    How about giving respect and giving media to folks like this one?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mimHcOUPQAc

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #758 - November 17, 2017, 09:27 AM

    Block The Freedom Of Expression  and  Erect Some laws in the name of some religious Blasphemy ... West will  end up with  double talking Politicians  with forked tongues  

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-RlBpl2Kpk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtpuyNDo0R4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXPzKSmkXRU

    FOOLS IN POLITICS  MUST LEARN   TO  SEPARATE STUPID FAITHS WITH MODERN POLITICS.,
    whether it is ........democracy.............. or communism.......... or ....socialism..........whatever...
    OTHERWISE EVERY NATION WILL END UP LIKE LAND OF PURE ...

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #759 - November 27, 2017, 07:21 AM

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    ISLAMABAD PROTEST DEMANDS THE GOVT HAS AGREED TO
    1. Remove Federal Law Minister Zahid Hamid from his position immediately.
    2. Anyone else named in the investigation report for being responsible for changes in the election oath will be acted against under the law.
    3. All protesters arrested will be released within one to three days. Cases registered against them and house arrests imposed will be ended.
    4. An inquiry board will be established to probe and take action against the government and administration officials involved in the operation conducted by security forces against protesters.
    5. The federal and provincial governments will bear the cost of losses from November 6 until the end of the sit-in.


    From https://www.dawn.com/news/1373182/

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  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #760 - November 28, 2017, 03:10 AM

    From https://www.dawn.com/news/1373182/

    ISLAMABAD PROTEST DEMANDS THE GOVT HAS AGREED TO
    1. Remove Federal Law Minister Zahid Hamid from his position immediately.
    2. Anyone else named in the investigation report for being responsible for changes in the election oath will be acted against under the law.
    3. All protesters arrested will be released within one to three days. Cases registered against them and house arrests imposed will be ended.
    4. An inquiry board will be established to probe and take action against the government and administration officials involved in the operation conducted by security forces against protesters.
    5. The federal and provincial governments will bear the cost of losses from November 6 until the end of the sit-in.


    well  those 5 demands look much simpler than  what Pakistan present Gov forced to sign

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1373182/tly-chief-khadim-rizvi-orders-followers-to-end-sit-ins-across-country-after-govt-gives-in-to-demands



    it says

    The government has agreed to the following demands of Tehreek-i-Labaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLY) in order to end the sit-in, according to a document circulating among journalists bearing signatures of the protest leaders and Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal, among others.

    Quote
    1.  Remove Federal Law Minister Zahid Hamid from his position immediately. "Tehreek-i-Labaik will issue no fatwa [religious decree] of any kind against him."

    2.   The report prepared by Raja Zafarul Haq-led committee will be made public within 30 days and whoever is named in the report for being responsible for the change in the election oath will be acted against under the law.

    3.   All protesters arrested between November 6 until the end of the sit-in from across the country will be released within one to three days according to legal requirements. The cases registered against them and the house arrests imposed on them will be ended.

    4. An inquiry board will be established to probe and decide what action to take against the government and administration officials over the operation conducted by security forces against protesters on Saturday, November 25. The inquiry should be completed within 30 days and action will be taken against those found responsible.

    5.  The federal and provincial governments will determine and compensate for the loss of government and private assets incurred from November 6 until the end of the sit-in.

    6. The points already agreed to concerning the Government of Punjab will be fully implemented.


    The document ends by crediting Army Chief Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa and his representative team for their "special efforts" that led to the agreement being signed.

    "We are thankful to him [Gen Bajwa] for saving the nation from a big catastrophe," the document concludes.

    Besides the interior minister, the document bears the signatures of TLY leader Khadim Hussain Rizvi, Interior Secretary Arshad Mirza, two other protest leaders and Maj Gen Faiz Hameed, who facilitated the agreement.

    In addition to the above, the following demands of TLY have also been accepted by the government, according to Khadim Hussain Rizvi:

    Quote
    A board of clerics led by Pir Muhammad Afzal Qadri will be set up to probe remarks made by Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah against the persecution of Ahmedis. Sanaullah will have to accept the decision made by the board.

    No difficulty will be faced in registering cases under clause 295-C of the Pakistan Penal Code (blasphemy law)

    No leniency will be given to those convicted by courts for blasphemy

    No ban will be imposed on the use of loudspeakers

    The foreign and interior ministries will take steps for the release of Dr Aafia Siddiqui after taking her mother and sister in confidence

    The holiday of Iqbal Day on November 9 will be revived

    Two representatives of Tehreek-i-Labaik will be included in the panel assigned to decide changes in the textbook board. The officials will push for inclusion of translation of the Holy Quran and chapters about Seerat-un-Nabi (PBUH) and Muslim leaders.

    The chehlum of martyrs will be held on January 4 at Rawalpindi's Liaquat Bagh

    Every year, November 25 will be observed as "Martyrs of Prophet's honour day"


    those   are much worse  Next govt unless it is run by army will face much worse troubles than  Nawaz  Sheriff's party....

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #761 - November 28, 2017, 03:14 AM

    Maulana Khadim Hussain Press Conference 27 November 2017 Islamabad Dharna ENDS Announcement

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cn_RJ1efNE

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #762 - November 30, 2017, 07:28 AM

    Oh, that is so depressing to read, yeezevee :(

    Now, over to today's meme:


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  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #763 - December 03, 2017, 01:48 PM

    Oh, that is so depressing to read, yeezevee :(

    ......................

    It is depressing because  of the confused faith heads  living with allahprozac drug and playing politics ...dear  Nikolaj  .

    .that drug leads to many side effects

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSYzvgKX49E

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NRIcpVm8M8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw0eHD6Alrw

    that guy shouting above holding and squeezing the balls of every one land of pure and everybody is crying in  pain., INCIDENTALLY IT IS NOT HIS FAULT.,   it is the fault those  scoundrels who  use faith for politics and give  their balls to the rogues of Islam  who measure their faith with the length of heir beards  ...

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #764 - December 05, 2017, 05:08 AM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2gsZwc0CH8

    There   you go..Now we are talking.,that is Imaan Mazari  Daughter of Imran Khan's party   PTI Shireen Mazari

    she is  speaking from London and talking about this news  

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42149535

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PcFqgv_orc

    well   she being young  and naive speaking truth and it is  fact of  life in   land of pure that is ruled  by   allah  Army  and/or Mullah Army ..

    So who is this New  hero of  Islam  in LAND OF PURE ??

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bXE_xD-MZ0

    Who is Khadim Hussain  Rizvi?  ,...DAWN  December 03, 2017

    and that Mr. Islam of Pakistan on Imran  Khan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2IOVGuW89o

    Imran  stop  playing  faith politics  for winning few votes ..YOU WILL NOT GO ANY WHERE      .,  they will burn you alive

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #765 - December 05, 2017, 07:21 AM

    Allama Khadim Hussain Rizvi New Bayan Reply Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui KA Asal Chehra Be Naqab

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77rqgR6qrus


    And  that is against  Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui  who said

     https://www.geo.tv/latest/170565-ihc-to-hear-islamabad-sit-in-case-today

    Quote
    State surrendered to sit-in protesters, observes Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui

    ISLAMABAD: Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui of the Islamabad High Court (IHC) remarked on Monday that the state of Pakistan surrendered to the sit-in protesters at Faizabad.

    Workers of a religious party had been protesting against the government at Faizabad Interchange of the capital for around three weeks, bringing the capital to a standstill for over 20 days.

    Hearing the case, petitioned by ordinary citizens and the religious group, Justice Siddiqui observed that the state kneeled before the protesters and not a single clause of the agreement between the government and the religious group is according to the Constitution.

    “We have to see the legal standing of this agreement,” Justice Siddiqui noted.


     

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #766 - December 09, 2017, 01:22 PM

    News  from Dawn  says  In talks with IMF, Pakistan agrees to depreciate rupee

    Quote
    ISLAMABAD: Amid a policy decision on Friday to allow rupee depreciation, Pakistan and an International Mone­tary Fund (IMF) delegation concluded the first round of discussions on the country’s economy. Now members of the IMF delegation and Pakistan team are taking a two-day break to prepare for the policy-level wrap-up by Dec 13-14.

    A senior official told Dawn that the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) would now let the currency exchange rate to adjust to market conditions after many months, rather years, of resisting expectations. The timing of the move was planned for Friday to ensure materialisation of $2.5 billion worth of receipts from two international bonds launched last month.

    This calculated move allowed the currency rate to touch Rs110 to a dollar on Friday before settling down at around Rs107 and did not go beyond official estimates. The two weekend holidays would give a breathing space instead of over-steaming the exchange rate................


    well that  news...  with that news and with these  road side lectures of BEARDED BABOONS  ,,,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtlIrNrUd58

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyIANdLdoX4

    Quote

    The country is looking  for an escape,,,,and no one  knows which direction it should run..

    Towards Saudi Kingdom?
    Towards  China?
    Towards  IMF??
    or..... towards  dictatorship ?? ...

      There is NO government and  elections according to constitution are still far away..  

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #767 - December 17, 2017, 02:19 PM

    THIS IDIOT NEED TO SHUT UP and live his life in some foreign land with the money he made  as head of the state ..

    The news from  his  TV chit-chat  ... 

    Quote
      Former president  suggests forming long-term interim govt to 'put house in order'

    "The proposed technocrat interim government should be provided with a considerable time to hold the corrupt politicians accountable,"


     HOW LOOOOONG?? fool with  foolish ideas...

     

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #768 - December 21, 2017, 10:13 AM

    Jamsheed Marker interview ...GREAT MAN..GREAT INTERVIEW .WONDERFUL CITIZEN OF PAKISTAN....
     ..


    Quote
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamsheed_Marker

    Jamsheed Veeri  Marker  ( b. 24 November 1922), is a veteran Pakistani diplomat. He is listed in the Guinness Book of Records as having been "ambassador to more countries than any other person". He speaks English, Urdu, Gujarati, French, German and Russian, and was Pakistan's top envoy to the United States and more than a dozen other countries for more than three decades and earned the distinction as the "world's longest-serving ambassador".
    Quote
    Ambassador Marker is the son of Kekobad Ardeshir Marker and Meherbano Pestonji, the grandson of Ardeshir Marker, and the great-nephew of Peshotanji Dossabhai Marker. He is currently married to Arnaz Minwalla.[15][16] He was earlier married to Diana Faridoon Dinshaw (d. 1979) with whom he had two daughters, Niloufer and Feroza.[17] His niece is the Pakistani environmentalist, Aban Kabraji. His background is from the Parsi community of Pakistan.

    Coming from a lucrative shipping business background with its offices in Keamari, Karachi, he kept his interest in the game fresh even when he roamed the world as Pakistan’s ambassador and high commissioner in more countries than any other diplomat in the world did before him and after.  


    well let me read his words  at to day's   dawn  https://herald.dawn.com/news/1153709/indians-were-furious-we-managed-to-secure-the-americans-first-jamsheed-marker

    Interesting Questions from Syed Jaffar Ahmed

    Quote
    Indians were furious we managed to secure the Americans first: Jamsheed Marker

    Ahmed:   A number of books have come out in the last 15 years or so that talk about Pakistan as a failed or failing state. After such a long and rich experience of living in Pakistan, how do you see its future?

    Marker: During the creation of Pakistan, there were doubts whether the state would come into existence at all. I remember a party one evening at New Delhi Club where a group of people – Hindus, Muslims and Europeans – were arguing fiercely and plenty of whiskey was flowing around. This was sometime in July 1947. The subject was ‘how long Pakistan will last — six months or six years’. I heard [someone] saying, ‘They will come back begging to us within three months, asking us to take them back.’ Now that was the attitude of a lot of people. We had nothing. When I say nothing I mean minus, zero. It was just the iron will of this man [Muhammed Ali Jinnah] who really put this country out. He said, ‘There is no need to get scared; we will survive.’
    Quote
    "Liaquat Ali Khan was in complete command but he exercised his power in an exemplary fashion"

    From Delhi, I came to Karachi. As I was driving [from the airport to the Cantt railway station], I saw those refugee camps. People in them were all bloodied. They had been through riots. They had no clothes or anything, just small broken-up suitcases. [But] you heard them shouting ‘Pakistan Zindabad’ from each refugee camp. The situation was such where you couldn’t be happy. You’d see children in their bloodied clothes crying and mothers on the roads yelling. But those people had unbelievable passion — all because of this one man. They were determined to survive any situation.

    Ahmed: If Ziaul Haq promoted religious fundamentalism, why do you give him credit for good things?

    Marker:  One good thing, for which I give him credit for more than any other, is that he stood up to the Americans on the nuclear issue. Pakistan was playing in the hands of the Americans and had agreed to become the front line state vis-a-vis Afghanistan. It was either the sagacity of Ziaul Haq or the Americans preferred to overlook it, but that enabled us to complete the nuclear plant. It was Ziaul Haq’s determination to take whatever the Americans would throw at him as long as he could [continue work on the plant]. The Americans were in no way going to kill us for that.

    Ahmed: There is a narrative that flows from Quaid’s August 11 speech — that the state will have nothing to do with religious affiliations of the citizens. Then there is another narrative that flows from Ziaul Haq — that takes us to a theocratic Pakistan. Where do you think the future lies?

    Marker: I think it’s one of Pakistan’s greatest misfortunes that we have been forced into this fundamentalist mindset. Now if we’re talking in terms of democracy, you have to accept that we are being driven by the force [of popular will]. If we reject it, that will mean a conflict. There has to be popular consent. And I fear we are losing the battle [for that]. We are taking these poor people to the wrong path. [We should take them] towards the secular part of the narrative.

     Secular??  Old man you are still a fool .,  Well  it is past...  Marker being Parsi  following  Zoroastrian   faith doesn't understand  Politics of Pakistan that are  laced with Islam the faith

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Zoroastrian_population

    but he had a good life   as diplomat  in US of A....   well  some great  men sometimes   can not foresee the  future ..let me read all his words...

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #769 - December 21, 2017, 01:40 PM

    Jamsheed Marker interview ...GREAT MAN..GREAT INTERVIEW .WONDERFUL CITIZEN OF PAKISTAN....

     ......................Old man you are still a fool .,  Well  it is past...  Marker being Parsi  following  Zoroastrian   faith doesn't understand  Politics of Pakistan that are  laced with Islam the faith

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Zoroastrian_population

    but he had a good life   as diplomat  in US of A....   well  some great  men sometimes   can not foresee the  future ..let me read all his words...


    well  on those words of that RASCAL  yeezevee.....let me add these tubes..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d29s4zKWcUQ

    well  you are a UNITED NATIONS  GUY...  lived  happily far away  from Pakistan  after serving the hero  that purified Pakistan and made it  "Land of Pure"  

    anyway let me watch a wonderful person what she says

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wArB1Po-FY

    And that person is Hameeda Hossain..   speaking on secularism from . . . Dhaka, Bangladesh,

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    dr. Hossain was born in Hyderabad, Sindh (now in Pakistan) in 1936. Her father, Abdullah Shafi Mohammad Akhund, was a judge. She graduated from the Wellesley College, USA and got her PhD from Oxford University..She migrated to Bangladesh during that war  time ..

    ..Hameeda Hossain is married to Kamal Hossain, who has been the president of the Gano Forum political party in Bangladesh since he founded it in 1992,  they have one daughter named Sara Hossain, a lawyer and writer  who is the co-editor of 'Honor': Crimes, Paradigms and Violence Against Women


    well I learn much more  from  that simple person dr.Hameeda Hossain  video..  than that CARRIER DIPLOMAT Mr.  Jamsheed Marker..who forgot his identity by joining  and  playing  political games with ISLAMISTS in Pakistan  

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #770 - December 29, 2017, 03:54 PM


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    As the year draws to an end, Dawn.com looks back at major incidents of terrorism that took place in 2017.

    An overview of these attacks paints a grim picture of the state of security in the country. Despite the launch of two major military operations this year — country-wide Raddul Fasaad and Khyber 4, which focused primarily on Rajgal Valley —

    the South Asian Terrorism Portal reports at least 484 civilians and 145 security forces' personnel were killed in various incidents of terror across the country.
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    A total of at least 400 people were killed in the major terror attacks this year which are highlighted in each of the tabs in this report.



    The majority of the attacks in this report targeted security forces, not civilians. Jamaatul Ahrar this year declared open season on security forces, threatening a nationwide campaign targeting civil and armed forces, judiciary, media and political parties.
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    Interestingly, attacks orchestrated by the militant Islamic State (IS) had the greatest number of casualties this year, despite top civil and military officials' repeated denial of their presence in the country.

    IS-claimed attacks took the lives of 160 people. Jamaatul Ahrar-claimed attacks killed 104. The Lashkar-e-Jhangvi al-Alami only claimed two attacks this year — both in Parachinar — and killed 92.


    Another interesting takeaway from the data is that although the TTP claimed the greatest number of attacks, the combined death toll came to 79. Their attacks mostly targeted security forces and law enforcement personnel and, although high in frequency, took fewer lives than those carried out by other groups.


    Claims of responsibility for major attacks in 2017.
    With respect to the pie chart above, it is pertinent to note that two of the attacks were claimed by two groups each — Lashkar-e-Jhangvi al-Alami (LeJ-A) and TTP jointly claimed responsibility for an attack on Parachinar's Sabzi Mandi; Jamaatul Ahrar and IS both claimed responsibility for an attack near the Balochistan police chief's office in Quetta.

    Tragically, the largest proportion of victims of terrorism were killed in attacks on places of worship this year.

    ATTACK ON  PLACES OF WORSHIP

    1).  Lal Shahbaz Qalandar shrine, Sehwan

    The deadliest incident of terrorism this year — claiming more than 88 lives — was a suicide attack targeting the crowded Sufi shrine of Lal Shahbaz Qalandar in Sindh's Sehwan Sharif on February 16. The attack was claimed by the militant Islamic State group.
     
    Key suspect in Lal Shahbaz Qalandar shrine attack arrested... THE  HERO  OF HIS ISLAM
    ..............


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    2.  Attack on Parachinar Imambargah, Kurram Agency

    PARACHINAR: The Shia community of this small town on Friday suffered twin tragedy when at first 23 people were killed in a car bomb blast near an Imam­bargah at midday and later another person died after security forces opened fire on a crowd trying to hold a demonstration in front of the political agent’s office in protest against increasing terrorist attacks.

    The  heroes of their Islam are  are these ROGUES 8 Jamaat-ul-Ahrar members surrender in Mohmand Agency: ISPR  


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    3.   Pir Rakhel Shah shrine, Jhal Magsi  21 people  killed

    QUETTA / DERA MURAD JAMALI: A suicide attacker blew himself up at the entrance to the shrine of Pir Rakhyal Shah in the Fatehpur area of Jhal Magsi district on Thursday, killing at least 19 people and injuring over 30 others.

    This is the second attack at the shrine, located some 350km east of Quetta in the Nasirabad division. In March 2005, over 50 people were killed and more than 70 injured in a bomb blast on the shrine premises.


    All  of those who  are dead and 1000s  who suffer because of  these brutal ROGUES OF ISLAM  are also Muslims...   Off course they are Shia Muslims..  Quranic Muslims with some silly beliefs.,   whereas those rogues of Islam who kill Muslims for their Islam  are  Hadith Muslims..  that is the difference..

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #771 - December 30, 2017, 08:13 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ULqjrQWSVI

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #772 - December 31, 2017, 01:02 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QbAmTIKtpA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPpsWtOjW9A

    My goodness gracious   fools  made a mess  of everything in the country  since the time of     THOSE TAIL BONES in Afghanistan.,,,    thanks to AMRIKA and Allah hoo  akbaaar  baboons  from all over  the globe

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #773 - January 08, 2018, 02:42 AM

    70 Years Later, The Idea Of Pakistan: with Pervez Hoodbhoy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML_OZOsDm30

    About the speaker:

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    , Pervez Hoodbhoy  .....One of Pakistan’s most celebrated academics.   is a world renowned nuclear physicist, prominent activist, as well a distinguished professor at Forman Christian College and the Quaid-e-Azam University. He has served as professor at the likes of Carnegie Mellon, LUMS, and MIT from where he obtained multiple degrees eventually leading to a PhD in nuclear physics. Bold and unapologetically progressive, Pervez Hoodbhoy is an advocate of freedom of speech. A regular contributor to dawn.com, he has also written for The Express Tribune as well as The New York Times on topics ranging from religion to education


    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #774 - January 08, 2018, 07:54 PM

    PTI Chairman Imran Khan Latest Interview with German  Pakistanis

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olP8eHuQxGg

    Imran does has a point  but  he needs support and he need to learn  when to talk and how to talk  in interviews ...

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #775 - January 08, 2018, 08:37 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2SQ4LPqm_c


    HolyShitallahgodshitwhatthefuckisgoingonhere??

    well........... that  is a good way of writing  English

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #776 - January 08, 2018, 11:01 PM

    What the  hell is going on with Imran Khan ??

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXqa8LBqrPw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAIyytjhv8s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJyzqMjqKeo

    Why are they ruining  his image??

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #777 - January 09, 2018, 10:28 AM


    now  i know the answers to those questions..





    well   that is from party head quarters

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5244977/Pinki-perky-wife-Imran-Khan.html

    Imran,,,,,,,, imran.... you lost the game.. marriage  is not a  game.,,   who is  giving you such advises.. you  are NOT looking for a wife  but you are really  looking for  a mom...  that is very unfortunate.....

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #778 - January 09, 2018, 03:09 PM

    Imran breaks silence on reports of alleged third marriage  says news

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    Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan on Tuesday broke his silence on the report of his alleged third marriage  in a series of tweets, accusing PML-N head Nawaz Sharif of being behind the "vicious" campaign.

    "https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/950646933562982400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2018</a

    https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/950645925667655680


    well  that is from his tweets ...Imran  it is true marriage is a personal thing  but  you  being popular   leader  of  a Islamic nation people will question your affairs with a married woman.,  Indeed you are a stupid guy  to  fall for a woman     who was married for 30 years or so and  had five grown  up  children ..  that is NOT   a problem if she was  a divorcee ...  but  public are saying YOU FORCED THE DIVORCE ON THEIR   30 YEAR MARRIAGE  .. and you proposed to her  immediately  after that  Islamic  iddat ..  that is  stupid.. And she  was your spiritual  guru??

    well  whatever... your personal life is really a mess...  AND IT IS YOU WHO  MESSED IT BY DIVORCING  Jemima Goldsmith/ JEMIMA KHAN .. THE BILLION DOLLAR Jewess..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN6XyOwO6Lw

    that was 1996  ..  21 years ago...

    https://twitter.com/bkhanz181/status/949571891953627136

    she  was indeed a  mad and a  stupid girl  to fall  for a fool like you Imran..

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Pakistan: The Nation.. The Politics... and The Religion
     Reply #779 - January 20, 2018, 08:47 AM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-LgQ1r5o-8


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-_CysLAr5E

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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