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  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #120 - March 14, 2012, 08:08 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wrYzYolA70


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7DkmooEHCU


    Saab chor hai salah................

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #121 - March 14, 2012, 08:41 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4O-bVaEl4c


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi3Vswvnwac


    ROGUES..ROGUES..ROGUES everywhere............

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  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #122 - March 23, 2012, 12:13 PM

    Well good news. good news


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnqAw484ceM

    and good news.. Pakistan Day being celebrated with great fervour

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    KARACHI: The Pakistan Day is being celebrated with great enthusiasm and zeal through the country on Friday, DawnNews reported.

    The celebrations were initiated by 31 gun salutes in Pakistan’s capital city Islamabad whereas, 21 gun salutes took place in the provincial capitals. Special prayers for the prosperity of Pakistan were held all over the country after the Fajr prayers.

    In Lahore, the Pakistan Air Force’s squad took charge at the Iqbal’s mausoleum. Governor Sindh Dr Ishratul Ibad and Sindh Chief Minister Qaim Ali Shah along with other cabinet’s officials paid tribute at the Quaid’s mausoleum.

    On March 23, 1940, a resolution was passed which negated the concept of United India and recommended the creation of an independent Muslim state. Hence, it was on the basis of this resolution that in 1946 the Muslim League decided to go for one state for the Muslims, instead of two.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSV1pcX3MQk

    Dammit  you are fool/., it is celebration of Pakistan Day .. NOT ISLAM DAY or Arabian Muhammad's day..   and get rid of the burkhas

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  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #123 - March 24, 2012, 01:04 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYmnPGHBkbE

    that is a great discussion..  good stuff...good stuff

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
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  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #124 - March 24, 2012, 04:58 AM

    that is a great discussion..  good stuff...good stuff

    It's 47 minutes long. When do you get time to sleep, Yeezevee?
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #125 - March 27, 2012, 02:23 PM

    It's 47 minutes long. When do you get time to sleep, Yeezevee?


    Yes David  kill all the traitors  kill them  all   then we can rule  another 10 years.. then cycle continues..then  we can sleep well and we can all sleep  permanently..

    FOOLS.........

    ..STOP IT  stop it..nice guy...  common move on  ... Nice fellow

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVtlzJ9I244

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #126 - March 27, 2012, 07:10 PM

    Recently come back from Pakistan/Kashmir. Went there after many years. Noticed that some of the older, well educated people are very liberal. Overall, I enjoyed it considering it's in a terrible state. Hated the sound of that fucking azaan though especially the Fajr one which used to wake me up in the rural places I stayed & not only that they sometimes gave a big speech alongside the azaan at Fajr time. Ear plugs came in handy.

    When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #127 - April 15, 2012, 12:30 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAcaPF5IHxw


    A  elderly Sikh tells that Subcontinent partition story..


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peZg4W89Qsc


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeWMs7eHess

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #128 - April 17, 2012, 03:33 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZZeVIHQCKg


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYfnxTHmgTI


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGJYrfIThZs

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #129 - April 17, 2012, 09:37 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZgk0IdEKtk

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  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #130 - April 18, 2012, 09:09 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vWvtn2p0XY

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #131 - April 20, 2012, 02:00 PM

    Gen. Rtd. Hameed Gul Says Start Trail from Me of Generals

    http://www.youtube.com/user/punjabrangs?ob=0&feature=results_main

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mas-owAQj4

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #132 - April 26, 2012, 03:33 PM

    How History is Written - Pakistan in Perspective   Mujeeb ur Rehman Advocate interviews Ayesha Jalal, Professor of History at Tufts University USA.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyk_2T0U8Zw


    H Nisar: Murder of History in Pakistan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9lXZEDYA70


    and the common man, Uneducated person from Baluchistan  tells all the history down

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrtLj4HYZgc

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #133 - May 04, 2012, 12:07 PM

    looking back in time.,  Justice (R) Dr. Nasim Hasan Shah & Judicial Murder of Bhutto

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ6Hu6p9RsQ


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybrTGG49YtM


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYjdH1evMbM


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpQADuUT8yA

    Rogues..rogues  and rogues  in black robes doing justice..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #134 - May 17, 2012, 02:22 AM

    Pakistan Then..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7HwKD3XGUU



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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #135 - May 23, 2012, 01:27 PM

    Asif Ali Zardari  interviews....- 7th January 2012


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU5LV5y8qBk

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #136 - May 24, 2012, 09:46 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzNQXeweWQ4


    Marvi Memon PML-N, Marvi Sirmed Journalist, Fazal Ul Rehman Khalil Difa e Pakistan Council, Ajmal Wazir PML-Q in fresh episode of Pakistan Tonight on Ary News and talk with Fahad Hussain.

    ha! Two Marvis and one baboon in one Place.

    One Journalist a hindu and one politically savoy smart ass. A Muslim..

    fun to watch that..  

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #137 - May 29, 2012, 12:02 PM

    The Deconstruction of Jinnah’s Vision For Pakistan




     
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    When Jinnahbhai Poonja and his wife Mithibai were blessed with a baby boy they never imagined that the infant, whom they named Mahomedali, was destined to become a man of history. Jinnahbahi’s parents had settled in the state of Rajkot but soon after his marriage in the last quarter of the nineteenth century he shifted to Karachi where the young couple rented a second-floor apartment in Wazir Mansion.  Prior to 1879 the Karachi municipality did not issue birth and death certificates and the correct birth date of Mahomedali is uncertain. The register of the Madressa-tul-Islam, where he was first enrolled, shows that “Mahomedali Jinnahbhai” was born on Oct 20, 1875, but in later years he claimed that it was Dec 25, 1876. He also modified his name to Mohammad Ali Jinnah shortly before his enrolment at the Lincoln’s Inn.

    Thomas Carlyle defined history as “the biography of great men,” and seldom has this proved more true than in the life of Jinnah. It is said that spoken words may not live long unless preserved in the encasement of print. Jinnah’s speeches and writings show that nothing can destroy words that are pregnant with imperishable verities distilled by the fire of sincerity. But mere words without action are meaningless, and this was what Jinnah also believed. He fearlessly articulated what he thought, and did what he said. as though to fulfil the Quranic injunction: “O you who have attained to faith!… Most loathsome is it in the sight of God that you say what you do not do!” It was the anxious solicitation for justice and truth that were the motivating impulses in Jinnah’s eventful life.

    When he set sail for England in January 1893, Jinnah was only sixteen. By the time he returned in 1896, he was like a diver on a high board ready to plunge into the tempestuous waters of Indian politics. The three-and-a-half years in England had moulded him into a liberal nationalist. He had spent many an hour at the visitor’s gallery of the House of Commons and was enthralled by the debates where men with razor-sharp intellects would vigorously defend their points of view on the outstanding issues of the times.

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    That was the time when the groundswell of support for the Liberal Party enabled William Gladstone to become prime minister for the third time in 1892. The same surge brought Dadabhai Naoroji, a Parsi from Bombay, into the House of Commons form the Central Finsbury constituency. During the campaign the defeated Tory prime minister, Lord Salisbury, had disparagingly described Dadabhai as a “black man” and the racial slur was never forgotten by Jinnah. He said later: “From that day I have been an uncompromising enemy of all forms of colour bar and racial prejudice.”

    The other lesson that Jinnah was never to forget was the value of free speech. In her memoirs, preserved at the National Archives in Islamabad, Fatima Jinnah reminisced about her brother’s belief that without freedom of speech a nation would wither “like a rose bush that is planted in a place where there is neither sunshine nor air.” He was convinced that the unrestrained flow of expression and opinion, like a breeze from an open window, is the birthright of man.  Jinnah despised religious obscurantism, which he believed was responsible for the stifling of free articulation of thought among Indian Muslims. This was evident from his address to the Aligarh University Union on Feb 5, 1938: “What the Muslim League has done is to set you free from the reactionary elements of Muslims… It has certainly freed you from that undesirable element of maulvis and maulanas.”


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    Three years earlier, on Feb 7, 1935, he had declared at the Central Legislative Assembly: “Religion should not be allowed to come into politics.” In his concluding remarks at the Muslim League Legislators’ Convention in Delhi in April 1946, Jinnah was even more emphatic: “What are we fighting for? What are we aiming at? It is not theocracy – not a theocratic state…”
    Amir Ahmed Khan, the Raja of Mahmoodabad, was like a nephew to Jinnah and would unfailingly stay with him in Bombay for at least three months every year.

    In a paper he had prepared in 1967 for a conference on Partition in London he disclosed that Jinnah “thoroughly disapproved” his “advocacy of an Islamic state.” And he asked him to refrain from expressing such views from “the League platform, lest the people might be led to believe that Jinnah shared my views and that he was asking me to convey such ideas to the public.” In the same paper he concluded, “now that I look back I realise how wrong I had been,” because Jinnah rightly wanted only a homeland for the Muslims, not an Islamic state.

    Jinnah’s extempore address to Pakistan’s Constituent Assembly on Aug 11, 1947, was perhaps his most forceful assertion, that the state had nothing to do with matters of faith. That historic speech, a bare thirteen months before his death, encapsulates his vision for the country that he founded. The rest of the Pakistan story has been about the deconstruction of that vision.
    With the adoption of the Objectives Resolution by the Muslim members of the Constituent Assembly in March 1949, Islam became the state religion and, in the words of former chief justice Muhammad Munir, “Ahmadis became the first target” of the religious parties. With the adoption of the Second Amendment to the 1973 Constitution on Sept 10, 1974, they became a hated non-Muslim minority.

    Despite the Objectives Resolution, the 1956 Constitution did not declare Islam as the state religion and its preamble stated correctly: “The founder of Pakistan, the Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah, declared that Pakistan would be a democratic state based on Islamic principles of justice.” But Article 2 of the 1973 Constitution declares Islam to be “the state religion of Pakistan” and the oath prescribed in its Third Schedule for the president, prime minister, governors, chief ministers, federal and provincial ministers and all members of the legislatures reads: “I will strive to preserve the Islamic ideology which is the basis for the creation of Pakistan.”


     
    Amazingly this formulation is borrowed from Article 20 of Yahya Khan’s Legal Framework Order of 1970 and is a crass distortion of history. Not once did Jinnah refer to, or define, any ideology for Pakistan. In fact, it was not till 1962, when the Ayub Khan cabinet was discussing the Political Parties Bill, that the question of the country’s ideology was raised. Chaudhry Fazal Elahi, who was later to become president of Pakistan, observed correctly that this had still to be defined.

    Critics say that Jinnah’s vision for Pakistan as a democratic and progressive homeland for the Muslims was like a sandcastle on some dreamland shore which the turbulent waves swept away. Yet it is undeniable that had he not died so soon after the emergence of Pakistan his vision would have been fulfilled. It is intriguing that it should have taken authors of the 1973 Constitution a quarter of a century to discover that Islam was the ideology and “the basis for the creation of Pakistan.” The discovery was patently false, as it was not what the Quaid-e-Azam had ever envisaged

    well it is good to read and analyze that article., but that Jinnah vision of  Pakistan as a democratic and progressive homeland for the Muslims was bound fail from the beginning.  Because Jinnah never read Quran, never read Hadith, never read Islamic History, Never understood Islam and its fundamentals and its origins And he was never a  Practicing Muslim., He was only Muslim by name and because of his parents.,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW_Xuk4cNy4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTA-VyI3WGs

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #138 - June 08, 2012, 12:15 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbWlOWVq6ns

    Imran you are a good guy  and you may know many things.. but you don't know ISLAMIC HISTORY.. so how can you teach your kids that false Islamic history??

    YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ISLAM Imran Khan........  kids will be better off learning from their mother's religion which is available all over the internet..

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  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #139 - June 15, 2012, 01:11 AM

    Identity Crisis in Pakistan



    The pious wolves kept a strict eye on lady sheep not dressed according to the moral dictates and culture of the Pastures of the Pure. Actually it was more about keeping a keen eye. *Drool*



    Name-calling was a favorite, pleasant pastime of the true believers of the Pastures of the Pure.





    Well All those are from   Nadeem F. Paracha's Animal Farm of Pakistan filled with pastures-of-the-pure  There are more at that fun link..   indeed it is Identity Crisis in the Land of Pure

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  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #140 - June 15, 2012, 01:13 AM

    Cheesy these are awesome Yeezevee!  Afro
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #141 - June 16, 2012, 10:09 AM

    Nuggets from Tariq Ali on Indian Subcontinent

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=24DQWjVS0XE


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X6oKDvkon0


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFDcGnupj8E

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #142 - June 21, 2012, 11:45 AM

    Great.. Great news From the country

     President Proposes a Prime Ministerial Candidate And Supreme Court Orders to put him In Jail_ Pakistan Politics

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    The News says President Asif Ali Zardari nominated Shahabuddin to form a new cabinet after the Supreme Court dismissed Gilani for contempt on Tuesday.  A consensus choice and a loyalist, Shahabuddin was briefly finance minister during the 1993-1996 premiership of Benazir Bhutto,  his nomination was announced after more than 24 hours of crisis talks and intense horse trading between Zardari and members of his fractious ruling coalition.

    Quote
    In brief remarks at the national assembly, Shahabuddin showcased his loyalty by thanking Zardari and extending greetings to members of the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) on the birthday of his late wife.

    “I am thankful from the bottom of my heart (to Zardari),” he told reporters.

    “Today is a special day because it is Benazir Bhutto’s birthday and I send my congratulations on this birthday to all party workers,” he added.


    Two other PPP candidates, Raja Pervez Ashraf and Qamar Zaman Kaira, also lodged their nomination papers and the lower house of parliament will now meet Friday to elect the new prime minister. The Pakistan Muslim League – Nawaz (PML-N) has also fielded Sardar Mehtab Ahmad Khan as a candidate for prime minister.


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    And Other news in the same news paper says Arrest warrant issued against Makhdoom Shahabuddin  ISLAMABAD: A non-bailable arrest warrant was issued against Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) leader Makhdoom Shahabuddin in the ephedrine quota case, DawnNews reported.

    President Zardari had nominated Shahabuddin as a candidate for the new prime minister. He had also filed his nomination papers for the slot on Thursday.

    The Anti-Narcotics Force (ANF) issued warrants against Shahabuddin, Musa Gilani and one other person.

    Earlier on June 7, Regional Director of the ANF Brig Fahim Ahmed Khan had told the Supreme Court that the ANF had widened its inquiry against Shahabuddin who he said had ordered the local conversion of ephedrine after Berlex Lab International and Danas Pharma (Pvt) Ltd failed to export asthma drugs to Afghanistan.

    The ephedrine scam had come to light in April when the ANF informed a three-judge bench of the Supreme Court, headed by Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry, that the ephedrine quota worth Rs7 billion was given to two Multan-based companies on the pressure of an influential person...


    That is politics at its best and only Happens in Land of Pure Democracy...

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  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #143 - June 21, 2012, 12:52 PM



    One Journalist a hinduHuh?? and one politically savoy smart ass. A Muslim..

    fun to watch that..  


    Just because she wears a saree she is a hindu ?

    http://indiansinpakistan.blogspot.in/2011/11/bindiya-chamkegi.html



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #144 - June 21, 2012, 02:06 PM

    Just because she wears a saree she is a hindu ?

    http://indiansinpakistan.blogspot.in/2011/11/bindiya-chamkegi.html


    I am not sure from which post of "yeezevee" you are getting that link but if you are talking about   Marvi Sirmed.. She is indeed born and brought up in Pakistan and she is  Hindu and her ancestors are/were Hindus..  

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEPj8x5qTJU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwh-Dag2mBc


    And she fights everywhere to defend minorities   In Land of Pure..   hindus of Pakistan

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  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #145 - June 21, 2012, 03:05 PM

    lol! it's that 'lal topiwalla bhungra' who started all the nonsense about her being a hindu. Anyway most muslims of Pakistan were hindus once upon a time. These people are so paranoid that anyone who disagrees with them automatically becomes a Hindu,Jew, a CIA/RAW agent!
    Before the advent of 'PURE WAHABBI ISLAM' many women used to wear the traditional cultural clothes of the region if I am not mistaken.
    Irrespective of whether she's a hindu,muslim or what have you she understands secularism better than most of the idiots who curse her.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aNbrakxFG0&feature=related

    http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/8027/secularism-patriotism-and-marvi-sirmed/



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
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    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #146 - June 21, 2012, 03:12 PM

    lol! it's that 'lal topiwalla bhungra' who started all the nonsense about her being a hindu. Anyway most muslims of Pakistan were hindus once upon a time. ..........

    No..No.. No., that is nothing to do with Zaid hamid., He didn't start that .. She and her parents are indeed Pakistani Hindus., As far as Lal Topi is concerned, that fellow using it to cover his bald patch on his head.  ., He recently divorced his wife and looking for younger women and he has no money to get his head hair transplant, So he is using laltopi..

    Off course Most Muslims of Indian subcontinent were Hindus., But in that sense all Muslim,s of the world were something before Islam., Either Pagans, Christians or Jews and That goes to Muhammad himself., The Alleged Prophet/messenger  of Allahgod.

    I am just curious., Are you Hindu?  and are you  from India??  Please don't answer if you don't like to answer..

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  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #147 - June 22, 2012, 01:14 PM

    A Muslim majority Indus Valley Civilization?


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    Who are we? For most of our history we have been caught between competing ideas about Pakistan. Is it a land for Muslims? What does an Islamic identity mean for the indigenous cultures of Punjab, Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Balochistan, Gilgit–Baltistan and the people who migrated to India?

    Greatness is created through synthesis, and when old ideas are challenged by new paradigms. The decade of the 1940s saw the North East states of British India challenged by secular Muslim nationalism. What does that mean to us? We are still in the process of understanding it. But in doing so, we have relied on too many easy answers. Our national identity is based on repudiation; we choose to identify ourselves in the negative: we are not India. Our inability to step forward is because we have failed to create any synthesis from the social and political currents available to us. Let us then challenge our paralysis and press forward with our inquiry — let us seek to imagine who we are, and who we could be.

    Our history does not start with 1947, nor with Muhammed bin Qasim’s (in)famous and glorified conquest of Sindh. Those events are important but form an incomplete story of our past. Our heritage goes back to the Indus Valley Civilization, one of the first people to build the great cities of Moenjadaro and Harappa, a complex language and mathematical system, and centers of commerce in Asia. The source of this great civilization was the Indus River whose mighty banks nourished and fed its people. ........................

     

    While religion comes from the same source, it is up to different countries and peoples on how to interpret it to enrich their lives. That is why the Islam practiced in Saudi Arabia is different from the one practiced in most of Pakistan.
    The role of religion (in all of its cultural, spiritual, non-denominational and ritual manifestations) will remain in society. What is important is for thinkers to channel it into a force that is creative and not destructive, inclusive and pluralistic, not one that imposes its will on the unwilling. One that is large enough to include free thinkers and conservative clerics. One that encourages selfishness and a spirit of citizenship. One that convinces individuals that they have greater aims than their everyday jobs, but does not encourage utopian personalities or apocalyptic thinking.

    What is the relationship between the pre-Islamic, pre-Christian Indus Valley Civilization to today’s Islamic Republic of Pakistan? These two strands of the secular and religious deliberately create a powerful contradiction. Contradictions are good because they deny any single understanding of morality and create a vibrant society through debate and compromise.

    Embracing our Indus past will enable us to reject Arab cultural imperialism in the name of religion, and will help us discard the Two-Nation Theory. We will be focused not on fighting wars with India, but in making the greatest cities in the world. Cities like those of the past, which valued trade and commerce and became the hub of Indo-Persian-Chinese commerce. Let our market places be flooded by people from all over the world and be a blend of cultures. We will be a country that celebrates diversity; ethnic diversity of the many languages and cultures around the ecosystem of the great river, and religious diversity, for it will be a country for (all types of) Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs who can respect this ecosystem. ............

    That is published in that major news paper  of Pakistan  DAWN  and written by Asad Badruddin who was born in Karachi., 

    Well if that was published in Zia era or even in 90's It would have been a death wish..   read it all at the link........

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #148 - June 22, 2012, 04:13 PM

    Very good. Interesting too Yeez.
  • Re: Politicians _Islam and Pakistan., Videos in Plain Talk by Politicans of Pakistan
     Reply #149 - June 23, 2012, 06:01 PM

    Parliament cannot legislate against constitution, Islam: Chief Justice of Pakistan..

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    ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s top judge has said that the Parliament cannot legislate any law repugnant to Constitution, injunctions of Islam and contrary to fundamental laws.

    “If such law is promulgated, Supreme Court under its power of Judicial Review can review it. The underlying object of judicial review is to check abuse of power by public functionaries and ensuring just and fair treatment to citizens in accordance with law and constitutional norms.”

    Chief Justice of Pakistan Justice Iftikhar Muhammed Chaudhry was speaking to a 50-member delegation of Youth Parliament on Saturday at the Supreme Court Building in Islamabad.

    The CJ said: “The system in our country is parliamentary system. From 1973 onward there have been National Assemblies and Senate but on account of Constitutional turmoil time and again there had been intervention in Parliamentary System, therefore, the expectations of people attached with Parliament could not be fulfilled. Parliament is required to give laws in accordance with Constitution for betterment of public at large so that laws can be made applicable.”
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       “I can say with utmost respect that they cannot legislate any law repugnant to the Constitution and injunctions of Islam and contrary to fundamental laws,” he added.


    The CJ stressed that the Constitution is a complete document which answers all questions, adding that every organ of the State enjoys complete institutional independence within its constitutional domain, however, any excess or misuse of power beyond that domain becomes the subject matter of judicial scrutiny.

    Speaking about fundamental rights, he said, where any question of public importance arises with reference to enforcement of any of Fundamental Rights ensured by the Constitution of Pakistan; then the Supreme Court has power to make any appropriate order for enforcement of these rights.

    The law applies to all, irrespective of their status, power, caste, creed and religion. No one can claim supremacy over and above the law, the CJ added.




    I don't think Chief Justice understands what he is saying And I am of the opinion neither he read Constitution of Pakistan nor Constitution of  Islam that comes out of Quran/Sunnah/hadith.  Zardari is no saint but playing Islam in to the constitution is a dangerous Idea that this PERMANENTLY DRUNK looking chief justice doesn't seem to understand. I hope that "talks of Islam in constitution" is ONLY a public stunt  not his policy

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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