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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #30 - February 12, 2010, 09:32 PM
    Yep, it got to a stage when everyone was automatically & unnecessarily quoting the post.  You can still do this, but after the message box has opened.

    Quote from: Aziz on February 12, 2010, 09:24 PM
    Will do that of course. The box won't be necessary then. It will be automatic. Just want to make sure that it works for practically everybody here. Smiley

    Btw, that article seems to contain no Unicode characters. Smiley

    They ALWAYS contain characters that are unreadable, usually speech marks with which it was ok with in this article .
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #31 - February 12, 2010, 10:07 PM
    Quote from: Aziz on February 12, 2010, 09:27 PM
    I believe that's a deliberate design decision made by osmanthus. I guess he wants to avoid that people quote the last posting which sometimes contains a lot of text.

    I don't see anyone ever quoting full posts.. people generally only quote the bits they want to answer. But its irritating and confusing to have to manually quote each time.

    I'll make a new thread for it.
  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #32 - February 12, 2010, 10:27 PM
    Bullshit they do. If there is a quote button on the last post people just quote entire posts without thinking. I have even seen people quote entire articles from earlier posts just so they can reply with something like "Yeah". It was way over the top, which is why we had to do something about it.
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #33 - February 12, 2010, 10:29 PM
    Ok Aziz, our database tables are collated in latin_swedish and I was going to do a UTF-8 conversion later anyway. Is this thing of yours likely to lead to any possible problems further down the track. It make me nervous when too many things are applied without thorough debugging. IMO this sort of thing belongs on a test site, not on the db for a live site.

    I'll point out that the last time we live tested a "fix" for the Unicode issues here it led to that bug with the question marks being inserted in pasted posts. That was not there before and has been impossible to eliminate since.
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #34 - February 12, 2010, 10:30 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on February 12, 2010, 10:27 PM
    Bullshit they do. If there is a quote button on the last post people just quote entire posts without thinking. I have even seen people quote entire articles from earlier posts just so they can reply with something like "Yeah". It was way over the top, which is why we had to do something about it.

    I agree with that, but it still happens from time to time.  Angry
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #35 - February 12, 2010, 10:31 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on February 12, 2010, 10:29 PM
    Ok Aziz, our database tables are collated in latin_swedish and I was going to do a UTF-8 conversion later anyway. Is this thing of yours likely to lead to any possible problems further down the track. It make me nervous when too many things are applied without thorough debugging. IMO this sort of thing belongs on a test site, not on the db for a live site.

    Believe me, nothing problematic will happen. Once the conversion is done, I will just remove my code changes.
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #36 - February 12, 2010, 10:34 PM
    Or maybe I won't remove my code changes, because the HTML documents are not in UTF-8. So I guess the server will still receive text in a non-Unicode encoding. I don't know how much we'd have to change at the server side to make this work without my JavaScript code. At the moment my solution is very simple and it works! Smiley
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #37 - February 12, 2010, 10:35 PM
    Ok cool. :0 I just get nervous about debugging databases. It's a shit of a job.   Wink

    Oh and your theme is available for RC2 now if you feel like upgrading the German site.
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #38 - February 12, 2010, 10:39 PM
    Testing Arabic copy/paste

    سُوۡرَةُ الفَاتِحَة
    بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ (١)
    ٱلۡحَمۡدُ لِلَّهِ رَبِّ ٱلۡعَـٰلَمِينَ (٢) ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ (٣) مَـٰلِكِ يَوۡمِ ٱلدِّينِ (٤) إِيَّاكَ نَعۡبُدُ وَإِيَّاكَ نَسۡتَعِينُ (٥) ٱهۡدِنَا ٱلصِّرَٲطَ ٱلۡمُسۡتَقِيمَ (٦) صِرَٲطَ ٱلَّذِينَ أَنۡعَمۡتَ عَلَيۡهِمۡ غَيۡرِ ٱلۡمَغۡضُوبِ عَلَيۡهِمۡ وَلَا ٱلضَّآلِّينَ (٧)

    سُوۡرَةُ الفَاتِحَة
    بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ (١)
    ٱلۡحَمۡدُ لِلَّهِ رَبِّ ٱلۡعَـٰلَمِينَ (٢) ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ (٣) مَـٰلِكِ يَوۡمِ ٱلدِّينِ (٤) إِيَّاكَ نَعۡبُدُ وَإِيَّاكَ نَسۡتَعِينُ (٥) ٱهۡدِنَا ٱلصِّرَٲطَ ٱلۡمُسۡتَقِيمَ (٦) صِرَٲطَ ٱلَّذِينَ أَنۡعَمۡتَ عَلَيۡهِمۡ غَيۡرِ ٱلۡمَغۡضُوبِ عَلَيۡهِمۡ وَلَا ٱلضَّآلِّينَ (٧)
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #39 - February 12, 2010, 10:39 PM
    Motherfucker. The damned thing works!  Cheesy

    Can someone who reads Arabic please check that to make sure it isn't buggered? Thanks.
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #40 - February 12, 2010, 10:55 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on February 12, 2010, 10:39 PM
    Motherfucker. The damned thing works!  Cheesy

    Can someone who reads Arabic please check that to make sure it isn't buggered? Thanks.

    Course it does. I say we leave it like this for at least a day, so that people can test it a bit more. Test now, or don't come crying to me when I enable the code permanently for everybody and when it doesn't work for you!
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #41 - February 12, 2010, 10:56 PM
    Ok point of interest, which may or may not be related: I just found this in the admin error log.

    Guest    February 10, 2010, 02:12:27 PM

    Apply Filter: Only show the error messages of this URL [url]http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?action=login2[/url]
    Apply Filter: Only show the errors with the same message
    Database Error: Illegal mix of collations (latin1_swedish_ci,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation '='
    File: /home/cofexm/public_html/Sources/LogInOut.php
    Line: 213
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #42 - February 12, 2010, 11:16 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on February 12, 2010, 10:56 PM
    Ok point of interest, which may or may not be related: I just found this in the admin error log.

    Interesting, but it's from 2 days ago, so I didn't do it. Tongue
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #43 - February 12, 2010, 11:18 PM
    K. I should look at the time stamp hey?  Cheesy
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #44 - February 12, 2010, 11:54 PM
    ?l?l?l?l?
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #45 - February 12, 2010, 11:56 PM
    ülülülülülü

    “Those who walk all over the willingness of citizens to achieve something should apologise,” he told daily Passauer Neue Presse. “Those who work should have more than those not working. One must be allowed to say that. Anything else is socialist.”

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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #46 - February 13, 2010, 12:00 AM
    Quote from: NineBerry on February 12, 2010, 11:56 PM
    ülülülülülü

    That's Turkish for "my penis is huuuuuge".

    Quote from: NineBerry on February 12, 2010, 11:56 PM
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #47 - February 13, 2010, 12:05 AM
    Sorry, I meant to write gürültü
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #48 - February 13, 2010, 12:11 AM
    i still see a ? in some new posts being made? example:

    Quote from: HighOctane on February 12, 2010, 10:52 PM
    - are growing up in an age there is enough information out there to conclude Islam really isn't true ... noticed the two faces on a UK ?10 note? The Queen and ... yes exactly, even the Bank of England wants people to snap out of it and accept Darwinism!

  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #49 - February 13, 2010, 12:13 AM
    That is probably because he wasn't aware that there was a Unicode option available.
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #50 - February 13, 2010, 12:14 AM
    Quote from: liberated on February 13, 2010, 12:11 AM
    i still see a ? in some new posts being made? example:

    Yeah, because the checkbox must be checked before Unicode characters can be posted. I'll soon enable it by default for everyone, but I want to wait at least a day. Maybe there's still a user with a browser for which my fix doesn't work...
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #51 - February 13, 2010, 12:16 AM
    Which browsers are we sure it has been tested on? I have a stack of browsers running on XP. I can't test any other OS though.
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #52 - February 13, 2010, 12:18 AM
    Actually I'll just go through the whole lot tonight.  Afro
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #53 - February 13, 2010, 12:31 AM
    I see. The enable unicode textbox shows only when you click reply to a post, but in the small textbox which shows at the bottom of all posts doesn't have this textbox? could it be added here too please?
  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #54 - February 13, 2010, 12:46 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on February 13, 2010, 12:16 AM
    Which browsers are we sure it has been tested on? I have a stack of browsers running on XP. I can't test any other OS though.

    Look at my original post, there's a list.
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  • Re: Permanent solution for Unicode problem
     Reply #55 - February 13, 2010, 12:47 AM
    Quote from: liberated on February 13, 2010, 12:31 AM
    I see. The enable unicode textbox shows only when you click reply to a post, but in the small textbox which shows at the bottom of all posts doesn't have this textbox? could it be added here too please?

    Ah, the Quick reply feature. I hadn't thought of that. Let me see what I can do.

    Edit: Will take a while. Thanks for pointing this out, because my code doesn't handle the quick reply form at all.
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  • Re: Permanent solution for the Unicode problem
     Reply #56 - February 13, 2010, 01:22 AM
    "Quick Reply" test: äöü€ł¶ſđ³½}¹²\þ»«¢…–·—‚‘’„“”
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  • Re: Permanent solution for the Unicode problem
     Reply #57 - February 13, 2010, 01:25 AM
    Good, the option should be available in all places now, even on the private message page.

    Gaaawd, I feel sick from looking at all that shitty PHP code! There's no God, damn it. Tongue
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  • Re: Permanent solution for the Unicode problem
     Reply #58 - February 13, 2010, 01:32 AM
    Quote from: Aziz on February 13, 2010, 01:25 AM
    Gaaawd, I feel sick from looking at all that shitty PHP code! There's no God, damn it. Tongue

     Cheesy who wrote it?
  • Re: Permanent solution for the Unicode problem
     Reply #59 - February 13, 2010, 01:33 AM
    putting the "Enable unicode" text between a
    <label></label>
    tag can be helpful, that way the text could also be clicked to check the checkbox
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