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  • Another nutty fatwa from KSA
     OP - February 27, 2010, 11:43 PM

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    Saudi cleric backs gender segregation with fatwa

    RIYADH (Reuters) - A prominent Saudi cleric has issued an edict calling for opponents of the kingdom's strict segregation of men and women to be put to death if they refuse to abandon their ideas.



    Shaikh Abdul-Rahman al-Barrak said in a fatwa the mixing of genders at the workplace or in education "as advocated by modernisers" is prohibited because it allows "sight of what is forbidden, and forbidden talk between men and women".

    "All of this leads to whatever ensues," he said in the text of the fatwa published on his website (albarrak.islamlight.net).

    "Whoever allows this mixing ... allows forbidden things, and whoever allows them is an infidel and this means defection from Islam ... Either he retracts or he must be killed ... because he disavows and does not observe the Sharia," Barrak said.

    "Anyone who accepts that his daughter, sister or wife works with men or attend mixed-gender schooling cares little about his honour and this is a type of pimping," Barrak said.

    Barrak, believed to be 77, does not hold a government position but he is viewed by Islamists as the leading independent authority of Saudi Arabia's hardline version of Sunni Islam, often termed Wahhabism.

    Western diplomats believe that King Abdullah's push for reforms is resisted by a mainly older generation of clerics who still control the religious establishment.

    The monarch dismissed a cleric from a top council of religious scholars in October after he demanded that religious scholars vet the curriculum at a new flagship mixed-gender university.

    The kingdom, a major U.S. ally, is ruled by the Al Saud family in alliance with clerics from the strict Wahhabi school of Islam who oversee mosques, the judiciary and vast parts of education, and run a religious police body.

    The Saudi government pays a morals police squad that roams streets and shopping malls to make sure unrelated men and women are kept apart, that women are covered from head to toe and search for alcohol and drugs under the kingdom's austere interpretation of Islam.

    In 2008, Barrak issued a fatwa that two Saudi writers should be tried for apostasy for their "heretical articles" and put to death if they did not repent after the two wrote articles that questioned the Sunni Muslim view in Saudi Arabia that Christians and Jews should be considered unbelievers.

    He has also denounced Shi'ite Muslims as "infidels" in another edict that coincided with sectarian tensions in Iraq.


    Boy, these Saudi clerics sure aren't doing the mission of Islam any good by issuing such utter shite!  finmad

    Hell, they're doing our job for us!


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  • Re: Another nutty fatwa from KSA
     Reply #1 - February 27, 2010, 11:49 PM

    Indeed, seriously it is quite bizarre, one of the Princes had loads of pretty office workers (women) who i dont think were family members. It is crazy!
  • Re: Another nutty fatwa from KSA
     Reply #2 - February 27, 2010, 11:54 PM

    I deeply respect clerics like this. They are the vanguards of true and authentic Islam. Whenever these pseudo-musulmans start telling us that Islam is a wonderful religion that respects freedom and is tolerant guys like this set the record straight. Love you.  Kiss

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Another nutty fatwa from KSA
     Reply #3 - February 28, 2010, 12:00 AM

    Indeed!
  • Re: Another nutty fatwa from KSA
     Reply #4 - February 28, 2010, 12:07 AM

    Oh wow, he's 77 year old. He's had more time to grasp the true meaning of the Quran and Hadiths than most other scholars combined! Cheesy

    Please don't die Mr crazy-fatwa. We apostates need you more than anyone else!

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Another nutty fatwa from KSA
     Reply #5 - February 28, 2010, 04:05 AM

    Controlling freedom of thought?  Cheesy
  • Re: Another nutty fatwa from KSA
     Reply #6 - February 28, 2010, 04:17 AM

    These clerics are nutters. There was this guys a couple of years ago who accused those who speak of a round Earth of heresy, and recently the breastfeeding fatwa (Though it was Al-Azhar not SA).

    This is pale in comparison. I mean everybody knows how much is Islam against gender mixing, he just added the "kill those who disagree" bit, which isn't really surprising. It is almost a given among clerics that denying what was a part of the religion (in this case segregation) is blasphemy. The guy was merely pointing it out.

    "In every time and culture there are pressures to conform to the prevailing prejudices. But there are also, in every place and epoch, those who value the truth; who record the evidence faithfully. Future generations are in their debt." -Carl Sagan

  • Re: Another nutty fatwa from KSA
     Reply #7 - February 28, 2010, 04:20 AM

    Controlling freedom of thought?  Cheesy


    Islam is all about mind-control.

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Another nutty fatwa from KSA
     Reply #8 - February 28, 2010, 04:26 AM

    Islam is all about mind-control.

    Imagine Darren Brown being a Muslim cleric. That would be a disaster.

    "In every time and culture there are pressures to conform to the prevailing prejudices. But there are also, in every place and epoch, those who value the truth; who record the evidence faithfully. Future generations are in their debt." -Carl Sagan

  • Re: Another nutty fatwa from KSA
     Reply #9 - February 28, 2010, 04:45 AM

    He would make the most dangerous madrassa in the world. 100% suicide bomb success rate.

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

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