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Reply #30 - September 03, 2009, 07:35 PM

Quote from: IsLame on September 03, 2009, 06:42 PM
So what are the subjects you will be studying next year within theoretical physics? Do you study about the universe, quarks, anti-matter and all that good stuff?

I did straight physics at at uni which was pretty dull (apart from I guess Astronomy) and my fellow students were quite far removed from reality. I regret it now, I wish I had done something like anthropolgy or economics which I find far more interesting. I found the problem with physics was that it was interesting when studying it as broad concepts, but as soon as you study it at a higher level it gets quite boring and difficult to relate to the immediate world around us.

I am sure you wont feel the same way, otherwise Cambridge would not have selected you!

Great. I am very abstract when it comes to Physics, so hopefully I won't have that problem. We are different in the sense that I find anthropology, economics and the likes fascinating, but cannot see myself studying them at degree level.

To start with I was a little confused on whether to choose Maths and Theoretical Physics and English Literature. My A level subjects were Maths, Further Maths, Chemistry, Physics and English Literature. In the end I chose the Maths and Physics over English Literature because the Literature course looked quite dull in comparison.

The first term entails of Pure Mathematics; here's a copy of a past paper, if you're interested:

http://www.maths.cam.ac.uk/teaching/pastpapers/2001/Part_IA/PaperIA_1.pdf
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Reply #31 - September 03, 2009, 07:39 PM

Quote from: Dr Diavolo on September 03, 2009, 07:18 PM
Well done on getting into Cambridge. You must be impressively smart to be doing maths at Trinity. I live in Cambridge just a stone's throw from the town centre so if you fancy a beer during freshers week get in touch.

Good luck.

Sure. It'll be great to have someone to talk to and/or give me brief guidance when I arrive.
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Reply #32 - September 03, 2009, 08:49 PM

Welcome to the board Hadugh!! You seem like a smart guy and congrats on getting into Cambridge! My University is not as good as that, but its the best in Canada, UofT!

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Reply #33 - September 03, 2009, 08:57 PM

Quote from: Hadugh on September 03, 2009, 07:35 PM
Great. I am very abstract when it comes to Physics, so hopefully I won't have that problem. We are different in the sense that I find anthropology, economics and the likes fascinating, but cannot see myself studying them at degree level.

To start with I was a little confused on whether to choose Maths and Theoretical Physics and English Literature. My A level subjects were Maths, Further Maths, Chemistry, Physics and English Literature. In the end I chose the Maths and Physics over English Literature because the Literature course looked quite dull in comparison.

The first term entails of Pure Mathematics; here's a copy of a past paper, if you're interested:

http://www.maths.cam.ac.uk/teaching/pastpapers/2001/Part_IA/PaperIA_1.pdf

Gosh some of those equations are long in that exam paper. 50% of my first year was maths too, but I failed it and had to repeat my exams in the summer.

I remember in the second year having to prove why e=mc2 and went on for several sheets of A4 and I probably got it all wrong anyway (apart from the last line )

So tell us how you stumbled on this site, and why you became an apostate?

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Reply #34 - September 04, 2009, 02:55 AM

Quote from: Hadugh on September 03, 2009, 05:14 PM
My father was an abusive Muslim who gave me serious death-threats every time if I wasn't a 'Good Muslim', and my Mum was the classic example of a the 'kind' Muslim psychopath - kind only when her offspring followed the Islamic religion fanatically, otherwise an absolutely heartless woman who, once during a normal mother-son meal, threatened to butcher me if I was to 'be Gay' or not read the Qur'an

Wow! That is really heavy, Hadrian and must have been very tough on you. How do you feel towards your mother and father now? Have you received any sort of help or counselling with this?
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Reply #35 - September 04, 2009, 03:13 AM

Quote from: Cool Canadian on September 03, 2009, 08:49 PM
Welcome to the board Hadugh!! You seem like a smart guy and congrats on getting into Cambridge! My University is not as good as that, but its the best in Canada, UofT!

Actually McGill is the best in Canada .

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Reply #36 - September 04, 2009, 03:23 AM

Quote from: Dr Diavolo on September 03, 2009, 07:18 PM
Well done on getting into Cambridge. You must be impressively smart to be doing maths at Trinity. I live in Cambridge just a stone's throw from the town centre so if you fancy a beer during freshers week get in touch.

Good luck.

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Reply #37 - September 04, 2009, 07:51 AM

Can you disprove the existence of God while you're at it doing Physics ?

It would be a cause for real celebration for us people I have to say.

Welcome to the forum Hadrian. Glad to read your posts.

I can only say, try just staying at Uni most of your times and do some part time work whilst you study so that you can use that as an excuse to stay from your family as much as possible so that you can become your own man and can finally say "Salam Alaikum" to Islam and live free.

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Reply #38 - September 04, 2009, 08:03 AM

Quote from: Hadugh on September 03, 2009, 07:39 PM
Sure. It'll be great to have someone to talk to and/or give me brief guidance when I arrive.

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Reply #39 - September 04, 2009, 08:41 AM

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Reply #40 - September 04, 2009, 08:47 AM

Quote from: atheist.pk on September 04, 2009, 07:51 AM
Can you disprove the existence of God while you're at it doing Physics ?

It would be a cause for real celebration for us people I have to say.

Someone has already written a book on this subject called "God - The failed hypothesis"

http://www.amazon.com/God-Failed-Hypothesis-Science-Shows/dp/1591026520/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252068391&sr=8-1
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Reply #41 - September 04, 2009, 10:10 AM

Quote from: IsLame on September 03, 2009, 08:57 PM
Gosh some of those equations are long in that exam paper. 50% of my first year was maths too, but I failed it and had to repeat my exams in the summer.

I remember in the second year having to prove why e=mc2 and went on for several sheets of A4 and I probably got it all wrong anyway (apart from the last line )

So tell us how you stumbled on this site, and why you became an apostate?

Maths is all about the practice, really. I don't know if only practice is needed to solve some of those questions, but I'll soon find out.

I came upon this site by having a curious google search to see if there 'Ex-Muslims' really existed; and what do I know - they were so eminent about it too.
I became an apostate after doing general research on Islam, other religions, comparing them and observing the sociological and psychological attitude of Muslims. It just did not fit-in with my personality; the people, the Muslims' general interaction, the basis of Imaan, the verses in the Qur'an advocating that - normally observably harmless - things are gravely sinful: ultimately, to my mind it seemed absurd. And my mind discards of absurdities, thus Islam was discarded without remorse.

I haven't regretted it since. I am a happy Atheist fulfilling a healthy health without superstitions. My purpose in life is not to go to live for eternity with 72 virgins getting drunk from heave's wines and having angels as my slaves. My purpose in life is to make the world that we know today a more prosperous place, for us and the next generation; and to just enjoy the many small, esoteric things in my life.
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Reply #42 - September 04, 2009, 10:13 AM

Quote from: Hassan on September 04, 2009, 02:55 AM
Wow! That is really heavy, Hadrian and must have been very tough on you. How do you feel towards your mother and father now? Have you received any sort of help or counselling with this?

Not really, I am naturally resilient. As long as I was away from them, and assure that I am away from them, then that's all the 'counselling' I require.
I've not spoken to my family, partly because they don't want to speak to me. I had a third-party, once I was on the other side of the UK, inform them that I am not even a Muslim. Apparently, I've been told, that she became angry and said that she disowns me. Good for her, I say.
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Reply #43 - September 04, 2009, 10:16 AM

Quote from: atheist.pk on September 04, 2009, 07:51 AM
Can you disprove the existence of God while you're at it doing Physics ?

It would be a cause for real celebration for us people I have to say.

Welcome to the forum Hadrian. Glad to read your posts.

I can only say, try just staying at Uni most of your times and do some part time work whilst you study so that you can use that as an excuse to stay from your family as much as possible so that you can become your own man and can finally say "Salam Alaikum" to Islam and live free.

I've actually read a sophistacted theory in Dawkins's 'The God Delusion', which struck me as creative and possibly true, to how the world we know today - which gives us the basic welfare/climate/food to prosper - has come today. If I remember correctly, it's called "The Anthropological principal".
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Reply #44 - September 04, 2009, 10:25 AM

Hadugh

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Reply #45 - September 04, 2009, 11:42 AM

Quote from: Angel54 on September 04, 2009, 03:13 AM
Actually McGill is the best in Canada .

Ahh damn

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Reply #46 - September 04, 2009, 12:12 PM

If Cambridge doesn't go too well after first year, I may get a student visa to Canada (I've always wanted to live there!) and come to study there - be embraced.
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Reply #47 - September 04, 2009, 12:28 PM

Quote from: Cool Canadian on September 04, 2009, 11:42 AM
Ahh damn

So... how's life in Canada?
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Reply #48 - September 04, 2009, 12:41 PM

Quote from: Hadugh on September 04, 2009, 12:28 PM
So... how's life in Canada?

Canada is awesome, especially Toronto. Its a very multicultural country right now lol, mostly Tamils and Pakistanis.

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Reply #49 - September 04, 2009, 12:42 PM

Haha, a bit like my old town where my family live, then.
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Reply #50 - September 05, 2009, 08:28 AM

Quote from: Hadugh on September 03, 2009, 04:39 PM
Joined this site after browsing through for a while; you all seem like nice people to become acquainted with!

Anyway, I have freed myself from the Islamic doctrine which my family undeniably held since the age of 16 and have been living on my own since, a great life in comparison I tell you.
I am an Atheist Liberal who would like to share my experience with those in a similar predicament - wanting to free themselves from Islam - and possibly give them guidance. Also, I would be interested in joining into the debating/general discussion on this forum.

Any questions, feel free to ask.

Regards,
Hadrian.

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I must admit i am in awe of your bravery and achievements.
Congratulations on your entry to Uni studying Physics no less! lol

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Reply #51 - June 04, 2010, 07:56 AM

What ever happend to this guy?
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Reply #52 - June 04, 2010, 08:03 AM

dunno, might be worth emailing him for an update. His email is in his profile Hadugh@yahoo.co.uk

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