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 Topic: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)

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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #90 - May 01, 2009, 05:15 AM
    Quote from: RIBS
    I think the UN, WHO, or what ever powerful organization, that cares, should put these parents in Jail time


    What, even your own parents?   Huh?
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #91 - May 01, 2009, 08:18 AM
    Quote from: RIBS on May 01, 2009, 04:13 AM
    Quote from: allat on May 01, 2009, 12:28 AM
    This is the most awful thing I've ever seen in my life. Circumcision IS genital mutilation and no different when it's done to men or to women. For fuck's sake, what the hell is wrong with human beings?!!!!


    Some people think it is fine with this sadistic-voluntary-infant-mutilation-molestation!!! Can you believe that?

    Yes, I can define circumcision (of both sexes, MGM and FGM) as a sadistic pain-inflicting molestation with parental consent!!! Think about it! a total stranger gropes and touches and feels your baby's genitals then inflicts pain by cutting in it with a sharp object!!!

    I think the UN, WHO, or what ever powerful organization, that cares, should put these parents in Jail time



    Its done under local anaesthetic, and frankly most folks who are circumscribed when grown up don't have a problem with it, in fact after doing some research I think it is better to be circumcised. So basically your argument is like saying we should not let doctors give a TB jab to our children, as that inflicts pain on them, and we are allowing someone to inflect pain on the child.   
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #92 - May 01, 2009, 08:52 AM
    OK after doing more research I think I want my foreskin back! 
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #93 - May 01, 2009, 09:10 AM
    Quote from: King Tut on May 01, 2009, 08:18 AM

    Its done under local anaesthetic, and frankly most folks who are circumscribed when grown up don't have a problem with it, in fact after doing some research I think it is better to be circumcised. So basically your argument is like saying we should not let doctors give a TB jab to our children, as that inflicts pain on them, and we are allowing someone to inflect pain on the child.   


    OK, that's it.... I am done here!! It's like trying to inflate a punctured balloon!!  or beatdeadhorse
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #94 - May 01, 2009, 01:55 PM
    Quote from: RIBS on May 01, 2009, 09:10 AM

    OK, that's it.... I am done here!! It's like trying to inflate a punctured balloon!!  or beatdeadhorse


    Why are you saying that. The purpose of this thread was not to convert people to what you think, but to discuss circumcision. Me and tut and hassan don't think its that big a deal! You, and berberella and awais on the other hand do. We have a difference of opinion. That is the nature of a discussion.
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #95 - May 01, 2009, 02:25 PM
    Awais clearly stated on this thread that he didnt think it was a big deal so im not sure why you included him.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #96 - May 01, 2009, 02:29 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on May 01, 2009, 02:25 PM
    Awais clearly stated on this thread that he didnt think it was a big deal so im not sure why you included him.



    Where can you get it restored? I think I want my foreskin back! I have indo-Aryan genes don't want anything to do with Jewish/Arabic culture. I think I want my foreskin back!
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #97 - May 01, 2009, 02:31 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on May 01, 2009, 01:55 PM
    Quote from: RIBS on May 01, 2009, 09:10 AM

    OK, that's it.... I am done here!! It's like trying to inflate a punctured balloon!!  or beatdeadhorse


    Why are you saying that?


    Why am I saying "I am done with this thread?" Well, I am done because I know that circumcision is a terrible thing to do to a person in the name of religion or otherwise; and you still think that it is a negligible topic and that we should not waste our time discussing it. Instead, you preferred consuming a yogurt that is about to go bad!!

    Quote from: aliadiere on May 01, 2009, 01:55 PM
    The purpose of this thread was not to convert people to what you think,


    Also, no one here is trying to convert anybody, however, if you consider my efforts to explain to you that circumcision is a terrible but extremely common practice among Muslims and Jews, a converting attempt? Then yes indeed, I am trying to convert you!!! And hope I succeed!
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #98 - May 01, 2009, 02:32 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on May 01, 2009, 02:25 PM
    Awais clearly stated on this thread that he didnt think it was a big deal so im not sure why you included him.



    I'm not having a go at anyone and am certainly not having a go at awais. My point was about RIBS saying that he was giving up and it is like flogging a dead horse when Tut disagreed with him. I was just saying that different people have different opinions! That is why this is a discussion.
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #99 - May 01, 2009, 02:40 PM
    Quote from: RIBS on May 01, 2009, 02:31 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on May 01, 2009, 01:55 PM
    The purpose of this thread was not to convert people to what you think,


    Also, no one here is trying to convert anybody, however, if you consider my efforts to explain to you that circumcision is a terrible but extremely common practice among Muslims and Jews, a converting attempt? Then yes indeed, I am trying to convert you!!! And hope I succeed!


    All I was saying was people have got a difference of opinion and let them have a difference of opinion instead of saying "I give up!" Saying that makes it sound like you are trying to get everyone to agree with you and you have given up because you can't get everyone to agree with you! You are well within your rights to say that circumcision is terrible. I am well within my rights to say that circumcision is not terrible.

    Quote from: RIBS on May 01, 2009, 02:31 PM
    Why am I saying "I am done with this thread?" Well, I am done because I know that circumcision is a terrible thing to do to a person in the name of religion or otherwise; and you still think that it is a negligible topic and that we should not waste our time discussing it. Instead, you preferred consuming a yogurt that is about to go bad!!


    You think and believe that circumcision is a terrible thing to do to someone. There are millions of other people who think and believe circumcision is a good thing to do to people. There are people like me who are indifferent about circumcision.

    Just have a civilised discussion about circumcision instead of saying "I give up!" when someone disagrees with you!
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #100 - May 01, 2009, 02:43 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on May 01, 2009, 02:40 PM
    Just have a civilised discussion about circumcision...


    Huh?

    Quote from: aliadiere on April 30, 2009, 01:49 PM
    I think there are more serious things to worry about than this. I have a yoghurt in the fridge that goes out of date today. I've got to make sure I finish it by midnight.


    Huh?
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #101 - May 01, 2009, 02:46 PM
    Quote from: RIBS on May 01, 2009, 02:43 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on May 01, 2009, 02:40 PM
    Just have a civilised discussion about circumcision...


    Huh?

    Quote from: aliadiere on April 30, 2009, 01:49 PM
    I think there are more serious things to worry about than this. I have a yoghurt in the fridge that goes out of date today. I've got to make sure I finish it by midnight.


    Huh?


    That was a metaphor to say that it is not something that worries me too much! I was basically saying that I care more about out of date yoghurts than circumcision! God you love my yoghurt don't you! There was no yoghurt! It was a spiritual yoghurt to symbolise my indifference to the topic!

    By the way, I just looked through the thread again and I don't know why I thought that awais was anti circumcision! I apologise to awais!
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #102 - May 01, 2009, 02:58 PM
    I think we should kiss and make up RIBS. I didn't mean to offend anyone!
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #103 - May 01, 2009, 03:00 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on May 01, 2009, 02:58 PM
    I think we should kiss and make up RIBS. I didn't mean to offend anyone!


    I still need to convert you and make you a Circumcision hater! suckers
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #104 - May 01, 2009, 03:55 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on May 01, 2009, 02:58 PM
    I think we should kiss and make up RIBS. I didn't mean to offend anyone!


    OK then! no hard feelings! What flavor was your yogurt anyway?
    ...
  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #105 - May 01, 2009, 04:02 PM
    Quote from: RIBS on May 01, 2009, 03:55 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on May 01, 2009, 02:58 PM
    I think we should kiss and make up RIBS. I didn't mean to offend anyone!


    OK then! no hard feelings! What flavor was your yogurt anyway?


    There was no yoghurt! I was just trying to be funny! I suppose i'm not that funny!
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #106 - May 13, 2009, 01:53 AM
    I dont think I would want my son to be circumcised at all.
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #107 - May 14, 2009, 06:08 PM
    I am circumsized, and I have no ill side effects. I have a fine sex life, no psychological side effects, and might I add, a nice looking penis, according to the females I been with  grin12 I live in the US, and females tend not to like uncircumsized penises. In fact, most females Ive talked to say they look funny, etc. Remember, this is in the US where circumsicion is standard. With that in mind, I am happy that I am circumsized  dance
  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #108 - May 14, 2009, 06:10 PM
    Quote from: Psy68 on May 14, 2009, 06:08 PM
    I am circumsized, and I have no ill side effects. I have a fine sex life, no psychological side effects, and might I add, a nice looking penis, according to the females I been with  grin12 I live in the US, and females tend not to like uncircumsized penises. In fact, most females Ive talked to say they look funny, etc. Remember, this is in the US where circumsicion is standard. With that in mind, I am happy that I am circumsized  dance


    Is it true though that yer lot are going through a time of decreasing circumsicion? I don't understand why people would stop such practice. If it is happening, is it to distinguish from Jews and Muslims?
  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #109 - May 14, 2009, 06:27 PM
    One thing I have never understood is how circumcision culture developed in the US. 

    Given most of its original populace were originally from a Xtian/European background, how did it end up so commonplace with 80% of men being circucmised?
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #110 - May 14, 2009, 06:29 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on May 14, 2009, 06:27 PM
    One thing I have never understood is how circumcision culture developed in the US. 

    Given most of its original populace were originally from a Xtian/European background, how did it end up so commonplace with 80% of men being circucmised?


    Weren't they quite old-testamenty in the old days when they sailed from Suffolk, Kent and Plymouth? I heard that some mennonites avoid Pork and follow Rosh Hashanah, Tabernacle and other Old Testament type thingy celebrations to be more puritan

    Maybe that splains it.
  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #111 - May 14, 2009, 08:50 PM
    Quote from: Astaghfirullah on May 14, 2009, 06:29 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on May 14, 2009, 06:27 PM
    One thing I have never understood is how circumcision culture developed in the US. 

    Given most of its original populace were originally from a Xtian/European background, how did it end up so commonplace with 80% of men being circucmised?


    Weren't they quite old-testamenty in the old days when they sailed from Suffolk, Kent and Plymouth? I heard that some mennonites avoid Pork and follow Rosh Hashanah, Tabernacle and other Old Testament type thingy celebrations to be more puritan

    Maybe that splains it.


    The excuse I heard was "public health".

  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #112 - May 15, 2009, 07:44 AM
    Quote from: SmartAssmodeus on May 14, 2009, 08:50 PM
    Quote from: Astaghfirullah on May 14, 2009, 06:29 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on May 14, 2009, 06:27 PM
    One thing I have never understood is how circumcision culture developed in the US. 

    Given most of its original populace were originally from a Xtian/European background, how did it end up so commonplace with 80% of men being circucmised?


    Weren't they quite old-testamenty in the old days when they sailed from Suffolk, Kent and Plymouth? I heard that some mennonites avoid Pork and follow Rosh Hashanah, Tabernacle and other Old Testament type thingy celebrations to be more puritan

    Maybe that splains it.


    The excuse I heard was "public health".



    Thats not a reason?
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #113 - May 15, 2009, 07:52 AM
    Maybe he meant "pubic health". Tongue
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #114 - May 15, 2009, 08:10 AM
    Quote from: Suprah on May 13, 2009, 01:53 AM
    I dont think I would want my son to be circumcised at all.


    If i had children, i'd have them circumcised purely because it is just the norm
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #115 - May 15, 2009, 08:19 AM
    Baaa baaa baaa. Tongue
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #116 - May 15, 2009, 08:40 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 15, 2009, 07:52 AM
    Maybe he meant "pubic health". Tongue

    Both actually.  Things like cleanliness and not providing a place for germs to breed.
  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #117 - May 15, 2009, 09:54 AM
    Quote from: Astaghfirullah on May 14, 2009, 06:10 PM
    Quote from: Psy68 on May 14, 2009, 06:08 PM
    I am circumsized, and I have no ill side effects. I have a fine sex life, no psychological side effects, and might I add, a nice looking penis, according to the females I been with  grin12 I live in the US, and females tend not to like uncircumsized penises. In fact, most females Ive talked to say they look funny, etc. Remember, this is in the US where circumsicion is standard. With that in mind, I am happy that I am circumsized  dance


    Is it true though that yer lot are going through a time of decreasing circumsicion? I don't understand why people would stop such practice. If it is happening, is it to distinguish from Jews and Muslims?


    I hear its decreasing. Actually, some organization protested in the DC area about circumsicion being wrong, etc.

    To tell you the truth, I dont have a clue. I think people spend way too much time worrying about whether or not people are getting circumsized.
  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #118 - May 19, 2009, 09:56 PM
    i have no remorse on this.i dont think i miss my foreskin much.if i was a girl then it might be a different thing.
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  • Re: MGM: Male Genital Mutilation (not the Motion Picture Company!!!)
     Reply #119 - May 20, 2009, 06:10 AM
    Quote from: jamshed raja on May 19, 2009, 09:56 PM
    i have no remorse on this.i dont think i miss my foreskin much.if i was a girl then it might be a different thing.

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