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  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #30 - May 09, 2009, 08:45 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 08:43 AM
    If you are incapable of seeing a difference between "Theory" and "Fact", then even the most wisest being in the universe can't help you.

    Your brain is done.

    And if you are incapable of seeing the distinctions between various uses of the word "theory" in different contexts then even the wisest can probably not help you. Alternatively, if you are capable of seeing the differences but chose to pretend otherwise because it suits your agenda then you are dishonest. So which is it? Dullness or dishonesty?
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  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #31 - May 09, 2009, 08:46 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 08:43 AM
    If you are incapable of seeing a difference between "Theory" and "Fact", then even the most wisest being in the universe can't help you.

    Your brain is done.




    This sounds like the Quranic "Blind, deaf, dumb" verse.

    Why is  it that all Muslims always refer back to the same argument of Allah closing other peoples minds and hearts?

    Cant you be original in your arguments for once?
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #32 - May 09, 2009, 08:53 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 08:45 AM
    if you are capable of seeing the differences but chose to pretend otherwise because it suits your agenda then you are dishonest. So which is it?
    Dullness or dishonesty?


    If you think carefully you will be able to spot other options besides the two you offered.

    Quote from: Astaghfirullah on May 09, 2009, 08:46 AM

    Why is  it that all Muslims always refer back to the same argument of Allah closing other peoples minds and hearts?

    Cant you be original in your arguments for once?


    Did you know that no one is capable of out-performing the Supreme Being?

    Well, now you know.

    Its just not possible to have more talent than God.

    truthful person never fears debates: http://omrow.blogspot.com/
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #33 - May 09, 2009, 08:55 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 08:53 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 08:45 AM
    if you are capable of seeing the differences but chose to pretend otherwise because it suits your agenda then you are dishonest. So which is it?
    Dullness or dishonesty?


    If you think carefully you will be able to spot other options besides the two you offered.

    My apologies. I forgot to include the possibility of profound ignorance. That gives you three options. Take your pick.
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  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #34 - May 09, 2009, 08:56 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 08:53 AM
    Quote from: Astaghfirullah on May 09, 2009, 08:46 AM

    Why is  it that all Muslims always refer back to the same argument of Allah closing other peoples minds and hearts?

    Cant you be original in your arguments for once?


    Did you know that no one is capable of out-performing the Supreme Being?

    Well, now you know.

    Its just not possible to have more talent than God.

    Which god? There is a veritable plethora of gods to choose from.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #35 - May 09, 2009, 08:58 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 08:53 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 08:45 AM
    if you are capable of seeing the differences but chose to pretend otherwise because it suits your agenda then you are dishonest. So which is it?
    Dullness or dishonesty?


    If you think carefully you will be able to spot other options besides the two you offered.

    Quote from: Astaghfirullah on May 09, 2009, 08:46 AM

    Why is  it that all Muslims always refer back to the same argument of Allah closing other peoples minds and hearts?

    Cant you be original in your arguments for once?


    Did you know that no one is capable of out-performing the Supreme Being?

    Well, now you know.

    Its just not possible to have more talent than God.




    Right, but the onus is on you to prove:

    1) That this supreme being exists

    2) That he, she, it or they sent down the Quran and the Islamic faith

    You can do neither with tangible, material and actual evidence. You can tell me that this world is proof of the existence of a supreme being, but that is not true, this world is proof of existence of itself. It's proof that it was made, formed, created by something, there are many explanations for what this could be. Your Allah is one of thousands.

    For the second question, you may tell me that the proof that the supreme being sent down the Quran is because the Quran says so, well, just about every religious book claims the same thing. Are they all right?

    I have been around the block many times, I have heard every argument you can churn out.

    THEY ALL FAIL.

    Learn the lesson now before you delve deeper and get hurt, just ask the ex-Muslims who used to be devout on this site.
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #36 - May 09, 2009, 09:06 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 08:56 AM
    Which god? There is a veritable plethora of gods to choose from.


    What do you mean "which God"?

    How many do you know of?

    You dont believe in any.

    How would you ever tell one from another.

    Existence of two Supreme Beings is logically impossible.


    Quote from: Astaghfirullah on May 09, 2009, 08:58 AM
    world is proof of existence of itself. It's proof that it was made, formed, created by something, there are many explanations for what this could be. Your Allah is one of thousands.


    Many explanations?

    Well, I chose the best explanation.

    And this being a free country, you have the right to chose one from the gutter.

    truthful person never fears debates: http://omrow.blogspot.com/
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #37 - May 09, 2009, 09:11 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 09:06 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 08:56 AM
    Which god? There is a veritable plethora of gods to choose from.


    What do you mean "which God"?

    How many do you know of?

    You dont believe in any.

    How would you ever tell one from another.

    Existence of two Supreme Beings is logically impossible.


    Quote from: Astaghfirullah on May 09, 2009, 08:58 AM
    world is proof of existence of itself. It's proof that it was made, formed, created by something, there are many explanations for what this could be. Your Allah is one of thousands.


    Many explanations?

    Well, I chose the best explanation.

    And this being a free country, you have the right to chose one from the gutter.




    What qualifies it as the best explanation? You like it most? Fool. This doesn't make it the best. The one we have most proof for (big bang and evolution) has the most proof and is therefore the best.

    And this is exactly why bearded religious fanatics like you will never fit into a modern, democratic society. You don'teven know what I believe yet you claim it comes from  the gutter with no respect for anything.

    Debate eh? My ass can you debate.

    If you could debate you would give me an irrefutable reason why your explanation is the best and you would answer my 2 simple questions   in detail.
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #38 - May 09, 2009, 09:15 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 09:06 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 08:56 AM
    Which god? There is a veritable plethora of gods to choose from.

    What do you mean "which God"?

    How many do you know of?

    You dont believe in any.

    How would you ever tell one from another.

    Existence of two Supreme Beings is logically impossible.

    Oh dear, you are slipping badly.  Cheesy
    Ok sunshine, let's take this in baby steps. I'll break it down for you like this:

    1/ There have been many gods postulated in the history (and prehistory I assume) of religion around the world. So, in view of this it might be sensible to conclude that the question "Which god?" is indicating an interest in your personal choice from this hypothetical cornucopia of deities. For example, do you favour Yahweh or Kali? Dionysus or Odin?

    2/ I know of quite a few that have been suggested. I can't recall how many offhand but the list is extensive.

    3/ You're right. I don't. This does not make my question any less valid, because I was asking you and you do claim to believe in a deity. You still haven't answered.

    4/ Presumably I would tell one from another by their characteristics, which in some cases are claimed to be quite distinctive.

    5/ The existence of even one Supreme Being, to use your preferred term, is as logically impossible as the existence of two.
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  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #39 - May 09, 2009, 09:24 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 07, 2009, 07:16 AM


    Richard Dawkins was cornered on BBC by Jeremy Paxman. During the interview Dawkins admitted that after all there is chance God might exit.

    The Professor's admirers are said to be highly embarrassed.




    Herd of Kurt Godel?
    Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #40 - May 09, 2009, 09:52 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 08:55 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 08:53 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 08:45 AM
    if you are capable of seeing the differences but chose to pretend otherwise because it suits your agenda then you are dishonest. So which is it?
    Dullness or dishonesty?


    If you think carefully you will be able to spot other options besides the two you offered.

    My apologies. I forgot to include the possibility of profound ignorance. That gives you three options. Take your pick.


    Let's add to the choices by assuming brain deterioration caused by god-belief.



  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #41 - May 09, 2009, 09:53 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 08:56 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 08:53 AM
    Quote from: Astaghfirullah on May 09, 2009, 08:46 AM

    Why is  it that all Muslims always refer back to the same argument of Allah closing other peoples minds and hearts?

    Cant you be original in your arguments for once?


    Did you know that no one is capable of out-performing the Supreme Being?

    Well, now you know.

    Its just not possible to have more talent than God.

    Which god? There is a veritable plethora of gods to choose from.


    Even the dumbest human has more talent than god.

  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #42 - May 09, 2009, 09:56 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 09:06 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 08:56 AM
    Which god? There is a veritable plethora of gods to choose from.


    What do you mean "which God"?

    How many do you know of?

    You dont believe in any.

    How would you ever tell one from another.

    Existence of two Supreme Beings is logically impossible.


    Quote from: Astaghfirullah on May 09, 2009, 08:58 AM
    world is proof of existence of itself. It's proof that it was made, formed, created by something, there are many explanations for what this could be. Your Allah is one of thousands.


    Many explanations?

    Well, I chose the best explanation.

    And this being a free country, you have the right to chose one from the gutter.


    So when are you going to back up your bull shit with horse power?  Or can you?


  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #43 - May 09, 2009, 09:58 AM
    Quote from: King Tut on May 09, 2009, 09:24 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 07, 2009, 07:16 AM


    Richard Dawkins was cornered on BBC by Jeremy Paxman. During the interview Dawkins admitted that after all there is chance God might exit.

    The Professor's admirers are said to be highly embarrassed.




    Herd of Kurt Godel?


    You men there is more than one Kurt Godel?
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #44 - May 09, 2009, 10:08 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 09:15 AM

    The existence of even one Supreme Being, to use your preferred term, is as logically impossible as the existence of two.


    Even top scientists like Hawkin do not say this.

    If you really believe your claim, then it only shows you lack power to reason well.

    You dont know what logic is.

    truthful person never fears debates: http://omrow.blogspot.com/
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #45 - May 09, 2009, 10:15 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 10:08 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 09:15 AM

    The existence of even one Supreme Being, to use your preferred term, is as logically impossible as the existence of two.


    Even top scientists like Hawkin do not say this.

    If you really believe your claim, then it only shows you lack power to reason well.

    You dont know what logic is.




    No, you don't know what logic is ya heemar ajdab

    He is saying that there is neither proof for one god or two, so if you say two gods cant exist, neither can one.
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #46 - May 09, 2009, 10:20 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 10:08 AM
    You dont know what logic is.


    Neither do you. Consistency of the axioms cannot be proved within the system. So you can't use logic to prove shit.
    Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #47 - May 09, 2009, 12:07 PM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 10:08 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 09:15 AM

    The existence of even one Supreme Being, to use your preferred term, is as logically impossible as the existence of two.


    Even top scientists like Hawkin do not say this.

    If you really believe your claim, then it only shows you lack power to reason well.

    You dont know what logic is.



    Why should Stephen Hawking know  any more about one or umpteen deities than any one of us. He's a scientist: science is science and religion is religion.
    In the absence of an iota of evidence for the existence of any deity of any kind whatsoever, the honours of knowing about the same go to the first person to find any. Hallucinations, visitations, mass hysteria, delusions, so-called virgin whatsits, drug trips, pretence, etc, do not count as evidence.
    I don't see many people queuing up, do you?
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #48 - May 09, 2009, 05:49 PM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 10:08 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 09:15 AM
    The existence of even one Supreme Being, to use your preferred term, is as logically impossible as the existence of two.

    Even top scientists like Hawkin do not say this.

    If you really believe your claim, then it only shows you lack power to reason well.

    You dont know what logic is.

    You have just made three unsupported assertions. If you wish to debate you should do better than that. As Smartassmodeus said, when are you going to back up your bullshit with horsepower?

    Prove to us that the existence of one "Supreme Being" is more logical than the existence of two "Supreme Beings". I'm willing to bet that you can't do it.
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  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #49 - May 09, 2009, 05:50 PM
    Quote from: Astaghfirullah on May 09, 2009, 10:15 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 10:08 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 09:15 AM
    The existence of even one Supreme Being, to use your preferred term, is as logically impossible as the existence of two.

    Even top scientists like Hawkin do not say this.

    If you really believe your claim, then it only shows you lack power to reason well.

    You dont know what logic is.

    No, you don't know what logic is ya heemar ajdab

    He is saying that there is neither proof for one god or two, so if you say two gods cant exist, neither can one.

    Actually that wasn't what I was saying, but I'll leave that for now. I want to see what rayback comes out with next.
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  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #50 - May 09, 2009, 07:32 PM
    Quote from: rayback on May 09, 2009, 09:06 AM
    Existence of two Supreme Beings is logically impossible.

    Care to type down a demonstration?
    Do not look directly at the operational end of the device.
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #51 - May 12, 2009, 10:13 AM
    Quote from: sojournerlumus on May 09, 2009, 12:07 PM
    In the absence of an iota of evidence for the existence of any deity of any kind whatsoever, the honours of knowing about the same go to the first person to find any.

    Reply:

    You might not know this in your closed off world, but let to tell you this: Many a one among scientists and great thinkers have found the evidence of which you speak. However, among them, I dont know know who was the first to get that honour.


    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 05:49 PM
    Prove to us that the existence of one "Supreme Being" is more logical than the existence of two "Supreme Beings".

    I'm willing to bet that you can't do it.


    How much?

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  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #52 - May 12, 2009, 10:26 AM
    Quote from: King Tut on May 09, 2009, 09:24 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 07, 2009, 07:16 AM


    Richard Dawkins was cornered on BBC by Jeremy Paxman. During the interview Dawkins admitted that after all there is chance God might exit.

    The Professor's admirers are said to be highly embarrassed.




    Herd of Kurt Godel?

    Can you demonstrate to us the conclusion that kurt arrived at?
    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #53 - May 12, 2009, 10:37 AM
    Godel was one of the major thinkers of modern times.

    He was known world wide as an expert in logic.

    Godel said proper use of logic shows that "God does exist".

    He also accepted that there is an afterlife

    "I am convinced of the afterlife, independent of theology. If the world is rationally constructed, there must be an afterlife."

    He was not a muslim.

    As a logical man, Godel abhored Atheists for their abuse of intellect.


    truthful person never fears debates: http://omrow.blogspot.com/
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #54 - May 12, 2009, 01:53 PM
    Quote from: rayback on May 12, 2009, 10:13 AM
    Quote from: sojournerlumus on May 09, 2009, 12:07 PM
    In the absence of an iota of evidence for the existence of any deity of any kind whatsoever, the honours of knowing about the same go to the first person to find any.

    Reply:

    You might not know this in your closed off world, but let to tell you this: Many a one among scientists and great thinkers have found the evidence of which you speak. However, among them, I dont know know who was the first to get that honour.


    Quote from: osmanthus on May 09, 2009, 05:49 PM
    Prove to us that the existence of one "Supreme Being" is more logical than the existence of two "Supreme Beings".

    I'm willing to bet that you can't do it.


    How much?



    Name one scientist or so-called 'great thinker' who has found a shred of tangible evidence and then tell us, from the catalogue of your great collection of their 'evidence', what that evidence is and give us some links to it so that we can test it for ourselves.
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #55 - May 13, 2009, 07:57 AM
    Quote from: sojournerlumus on May 12, 2009, 01:53 PM
    Name one scientist or so-called 'great thinker' who has found a shred of tangible evidence


    Are you saying you do not know of one scientist who believes in God?

    truthful person never fears debates: http://omrow.blogspot.com/
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #56 - May 13, 2009, 08:03 AM
    No, he's asking you to name a scientist who has found evidence, which of course you cannot do, so instead you do your usual and waste a bit more bandwidth on a pointless, empty response. 
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #57 - May 13, 2009, 08:04 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 13, 2009, 07:57 AM
    Quote from: sojournerlumus on May 12, 2009, 01:53 PM
    Name one scientist or so-called 'great thinker' who has found a shred of tangible evidence

    Are you saying you do not know of one scientist who believes in God?

    You're either stupid or dishonest or both.

    That was not what sojourner asked for. He asked for tangible evidence. Belief does not equal tangible evidence. Ergo, knowing of a scientist who believes in god is irrelevant.
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  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #58 - May 13, 2009, 08:54 AM
    Quote from: rayback on May 13, 2009, 07:57 AM
    Quote from: sojournerlumus on May 12, 2009, 01:53 PM
    Name one scientist or so-called 'great thinker' who has found a shred of tangible evidence


    Are you saying you do not know of one scientist who believes in God?



    You are beginning to piss the Pancake Lord off.
  • Re: New Research Demolishes Evolution by Harun Yahya
     Reply #59 - May 13, 2009, 08:56 AM
    I wish you buggers would fix your quote tags. Grin
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