Would you guys be casually musing about the aesthetics of Nazi buildings that happened to look pretty, but were built on the bones of millions of mass-murdered and otherwise oppressed victims?
Apparently, it's okay to admire Islamic things, but not Nazi things, eh? What is the logic behind that? Islam is better than Nazism?
Hesperado...why don't you come to your senses? You're out riding fences.
Seriously, you seem to be living on a different planet than the rest of us "low-grade isotopes" or whatever it is you call us.
Yes, Islam is better than Nazism and I think IsLame presented a very good argument as to why. Furthermore, even you admit that there are good, decent and harmless Muslims out there (even if you say you can't know the difference), but can you really say the same for Nazis or neo-Nazis? And I mean actual NSDAP or neo-Nazi organization members, not just your average soldier in the Wehrmacht.
While there are critical similarities between national socialism and Islam, there are also critical differences. Islam is totalitarian indeed, and all totalitarian systems have some similar elements by default. I think "Islamism" will be more accurate a word to use here, if we seek a comparison with national socialists.
But for all that I care, Islam is an ancient and often incompetent evil. Islamic expansionism has been successfully stopped and reversed at some places. Ataturk, Adnan Hoxha, and the Soviets managed to uproot or weaken Islam successfully in Turkey, Albania, and the Central Asian Republics respectively...(edited for brevity)
This is an excellent analysis Zaephon-- just one quibble-- his name was Enver Hoxha. Maybe you're thinking of Adil Hoxha, the 8-year-old Albanian spy in that Simpsons episode?
The leftwingers, although useless and permanently stuck into 'analysis-paralysis mode', are just too ineffectual to cause damage.
This may be true of left-wingers in the developed world, but in the Third World, particularly Latin America right now, the left-wingers are anything but "ineffectual". Cuba, Chavez and the PSUV in Venezuela, the FMLN is now running El Salvador, the FSLN is back in power in Nicaragua, Mexico has had several upheavals over the last decade or more that looked like a revolutionary situation might develop, FARC and ELN rebels are still a big concern for the government of Colombia, as Maoist rebels are for the governments of Nepal and the Philippines. And the US military and Iraqi national army must think some of the left-secular opposition allied with the Iraqi Freedom Congress to be a threat, or else they wouldn't be assassinating and jailing its leaders, raiding and destroying labor union offices, and still enforcing Saddam's anti-union laws (in contravention of the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights).
Nazis would murder Jews whatever they said or did just because of their backround.
However Muslims, even according to the harshest interpretation of the Quran would not murder provided certain demands were met (converting to Islam, paying Jizyah or handing over their lands).
Comparisons can be made but its not the same.
Islam did not give much of a choice, but it did at least provide this option before slaughter. The Nazis didnt even give that.
Excellent point
Topic: Nice things about Islam and Muslim culture.