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  • Did Satan have a Wife?
     OP - February 08, 2009, 12:03 AM
    "...Will you then take him and his progeny as protectors rather than Me?..." (18:50)

    The word used in the Qur'an is thuriyyah which means offspring/seed.

    I know many Muslims regard this as simply referring to his 'metaphorical' children, but I just thought it was funny that one commentator said it can only mean Satan had a spouse (zawjah) since one cannot (literally speaking) have "progeny" without having a partner.

    I wonder if she nags him or complains about why is he always late home and he says he had to work late on a stubborn believer. Or his daughter rebels and threatens to worship God. Or his son's teacher rings home complaining that his son is being 'good' again!  grin12


  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #1 - February 08, 2009, 02:07 AM
    RFLOL!!!

    Actually, I recently learned about a legend that Satan has a wife named Lilith, but I cannot imagine Satan believing in any kind of sanctity of marriage....even a satanic mockery of a marriage.

    Apparently, Lilith did nag him about a pair of red high-healed shoes....but none of their offspring have rebelled and decided to worship God.  Cheesy

    That would be funny, though.  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #2 - February 08, 2009, 02:11 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on February 08, 2009, 12:03 AM
    "...Will you then take him and his progeny as protectors rather than Me?..." (18:50)

    The word used in the Qur'an is thuriyyah which means offspring/seed.






    Maybe their thuriyyah is something like our nephilim.

    I don't know. I just report these things.
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #3 - February 08, 2009, 02:12 AM
    Oh, that's funny.  Where did you hear that Shaneequa?

    Lilith was Adam's first wife, not Satan's wife.  Who on earth told you that nonsense?
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #4 - February 08, 2009, 02:14 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on February 08, 2009, 02:12 AM
    Oh, that's funny.  Where did you hear that Shaneequa?

    Lilith was Adam's first wife, not Satan's wife.  Who on earth told you that nonsense?

    First wife? Did he have more than one?
    ~My story~
    ~Collection of unethical hadiths/surahs~
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #5 - February 08, 2009, 02:20 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on February 08, 2009, 02:12 AM
    Oh, that's funny.  Where did you hear that Shaneequa?

    Lilith was Adam's first wife, not Satan's wife.  Who on earth told you that nonsense?


    I have heard that, too....but that is just a myth. And the Lilith/Satan thing is probably a myth. I just can't see Satan marrying.
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #6 - February 08, 2009, 02:24 AM
    Quote from: PeruvianSkies on February 08, 2009, 02:14 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on February 08, 2009, 02:12 AM
    Oh, that's funny.  Where did you hear that Shaneequa?

    Lilith was Adam's first wife, not Satan's wife.  Who on earth told you that nonsense?

    First wife? Did he have more than one?


    Of course.  He had two wives, Lilith the evil, first wife, who always wanted to sit on top, and wouldn't take orders, or cook the dinner or anything else.  She, for obvious reasons, was banished into the wilderness.    Then came Eve, who was from Adam's rib, and therefore far more compliant.

    Even she ate the forbidden fruit, evil bitch that she was.  That's women for ya.   Cheesy
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #7 - February 08, 2009, 02:26 AM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on February 08, 2009, 02:20 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on February 08, 2009, 02:12 AM
    Oh, that's funny.  Where did you hear that Shaneequa?

    Lilith was Adam's first wife, not Satan's wife.  Who on earth told you that nonsense?


    I have heard that, too....but that is just a myth. And the Lilith/Satan thing is probably a myth. I just can't see Satan marrying.


    Of course its a myth.  Satan's very existence is a myth, never mind his propensity towards marriage.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #8 - February 08, 2009, 02:29 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on February 08, 2009, 02:26 AM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on February 08, 2009, 02:20 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on February 08, 2009, 02:12 AM
    Oh, that's funny.  Where did you hear that Shaneequa?

    Lilith was Adam's first wife, not Satan's wife.  Who on earth told you that nonsense?


    I have heard that, too....but that is just a myth. And the Lilith/Satan thing is probably a myth. I just can't see Satan marrying.


    Of course its a myth.  Satan's very existence is a myth, never mind his propensity towards marriage.


    Well, we agree on second part.  dance
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #9 - February 08, 2009, 02:33 AM
    You think Satan was real?   Cheesy
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #10 - February 08, 2009, 02:59 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on February 08, 2009, 02:33 AM
    You think Satan was real?   Cheesy


    ...and still is.
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #11 - February 08, 2009, 03:14 AM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on February 08, 2009, 02:59 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on February 08, 2009, 02:33 AM
    You think Satan was real?   Cheesy


    ...and still is.


    You think Satan is and was real? 

    What evidence do you have for Satan, past or present?
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #12 - February 08, 2009, 03:28 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on February 08, 2009, 03:14 AM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on February 08, 2009, 02:59 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on February 08, 2009, 02:33 AM
    You think Satan was real?   Cheesy


    ...and still is.


    You think Satan is and was real? 

    What evidence do you have for Satan, past or present?


    I don't think there's anything I can say that would convince you. 
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #13 - February 08, 2009, 03:32 AM
    You might convince somebody else watching though. 

    What evidence do you have for Satan?
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #14 - February 08, 2009, 04:14 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on February 08, 2009, 03:32 AM
    You might convince somebody else watching though. 

    What evidence do you have for Satan?


    If they do not believe the bible, there is nothing I can say:
    Quote
    Lu:16:30: And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
    Lu:16:31: And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.


    I'm sorry. I wish there were.

  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #15 - February 08, 2009, 05:17 AM
    I would think that Shaytaan's wives wouldn't last with him, being that he's been granted respite until yowm al-qiyaamah, and they haven't. Doesn't even need to be wives; babys' mamas grin12.
    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #16 - February 08, 2009, 02:08 PM
    Quote from: awais on February 08, 2009, 05:17 AM
    I would think that Shaytaan's wives wouldn't last with him, being that he's been granted respite until yowm al-qiyaamah, and they haven't. Doesn't even need to be wives; babys' mamas grin12.



     Huh?

    It's all Greek to me.
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #17 - February 08, 2009, 03:09 PM
    Lilithu

    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #18 - February 08, 2009, 03:16 PM
    Quote from: panoptic on February 08, 2009, 03:09 PM
    Lilithu

    (Clicky for piccy!)


    There is a rumour that she is worshipped by religious abortionists, because she is the goddess of child sacrifice.
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #19 - February 08, 2009, 03:31 PM
    Lilith
    This is sometimes accompanied by a Muslim legend that after leaving Adam Lilith slept with Satan, thus creating the demonic Djinn. ...
    www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/l/lilith


    An argument for Satan
    If Satan married Lilith, who clearly had a good head on her shoulders, we can assume that Satan is not sexist nor does he believe in suppressing women. ...
    www.religioustolerance.org/lenhardt01.htm Huh?
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #20 - February 08, 2009, 03:35 PM
    She's my favourite pagan atavism. Originally a goddess, now hidden subversive force, synonymous with the Tree of Life itself.

    Quote from: Shaneequa on February 08, 2009, 03:16 PM
    There is a rumour that she is worshipped by religious abortionists, because she is the goddess of child sacrifice.

    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #21 - February 08, 2009, 03:56 PM
    Quote from: panoptic on February 08, 2009, 03:35 PM
    She's my favourite pagan atavism. Originally a goddess, now hidden subversive force, synonymous with the Tree of Life itself.

    Quote from: Shaneequa on February 08, 2009, 03:16 PM
    There is a rumour that she is worshipped by religious abortionists, because she is the goddess of child sacrifice.



    There is a book called 'The Sacrament of Abortion'. The author is quite open about it. Also, if you drive through an abortion center parking lot, alot of the employees' cars will have pagan bumper stickers...or at least some will. Others are more discreet...the high level ones.

    Liltith may also be Diana, Heckate or even Kali (I think).
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #22 - February 08, 2009, 04:01 PM
    What do you mean by "pagan bumper stickers"?  Can you give us an example, please?
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #23 - February 08, 2009, 04:10 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on February 08, 2009, 04:01 PM
    What do you mean by "pagan bumper stickers"?  Can you give us an example, please?


    "Blessed be" is a common pagan bumper sticker....but let me look it up for you.
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #24 - February 08, 2009, 04:12 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on February 08, 2009, 03:56 PM
    There is a book called 'The Sacrament of Abortion'. The author is quite open about it. Also, if you drive through an abortion center parking lot, alot of the employees' cars will have pagan bumper stickers...or at least some will. Others are more discreet...the high level ones.


    Lilithu is a Goddess of power so it makes sense.

    Quote from: Shaneequa
    If Satan married Lilith, who clearly had a good head on her shoulders, we can assume that Satan is not sexist nor does he believe in suppressing women. ...


    I think so. Satan is demonised for similar reasons as Lilith.
    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #25 - February 08, 2009, 04:28 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on February 08, 2009, 03:56 PM
    Quote from: panoptic on February 08, 2009, 03:35 PM
    She's my favourite pagan atavism. Originally a goddess, now hidden subversive force, synonymous with the Tree of Life itself.

    Quote from: Shaneequa on February 08, 2009, 03:16 PM
    There is a rumour that she is worshipped by religious abortionists, because she is the goddess of child sacrifice.



    There is a book called 'The Sacrament of Abortion'. The author is quite open about it. Also, if you drive through an abortion center parking lot, alot of the employees' cars will have pagan bumper stickers...or at least some will. Others are more discreet...the high level ones.

    Liltith may also be Diana, Heckate or even Kali (I think).


    Are you saying that abortion is a pagan conspiracy?
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #26 - February 08, 2009, 04:43 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on February 08, 2009, 04:28 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on February 08, 2009, 03:56 PM
    Quote from: panoptic on February 08, 2009, 03:35 PM
    She's my favourite pagan atavism. Originally a goddess, now hidden subversive force, synonymous with the Tree of Life itself.

    Quote from: Shaneequa on February 08, 2009, 03:16 PM
    There is a rumour that she is worshipped by religious abortionists, because she is the goddess of child sacrifice.



    There is a book called 'The Sacrament of Abortion'. The author is quite open about it. Also, if you drive through an abortion center parking lot, alot of the employees' cars will have pagan bumper stickers...or at least some will. Others are more discreet...the high level ones.

    Liltith may also be Diana, Heckate or even Kali (I think).


    Are you saying that abortion is a pagan conspiracy?


    I don't know. It's like trying to figure out which came first....the chicken or the egg. I'd have to say the abortion industry attracts pagans, but not everyone in the industry is a pagan.

    Alot of it is big money and big science....but pagans like it.


  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #27 - February 08, 2009, 05:12 PM
    Did you hear about the girl that had multiple abortions for an "art" project? finmad
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #28 - February 08, 2009, 05:23 PM
    Hassan,

    When you were a Muslim, how did you feel about the west being so pro-abortion?
  • Re: Did Satan have a Wife?
     Reply #29 - February 08, 2009, 05:58 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on February 08, 2009, 04:43 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on February 08, 2009, 04:28 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on February 08, 2009, 03:56 PM
    Quote from: panoptic on February 08, 2009, 03:35 PM
    She's my favourite pagan atavism. Originally a goddess, now hidden subversive force, synonymous with the Tree of Life itself.

    Quote from: Shaneequa on February 08, 2009, 03:16 PM
    There is a rumour that she is worshipped by religious abortionists, because she is the goddess of child sacrifice.



    There is a book called 'The Sacrament of Abortion'. The author is quite open about it. Also, if you drive through an abortion center parking lot, alot of the employees' cars will have pagan bumper stickers...or at least some will. Others are more discreet...the high level ones.

    Liltith may also be Diana, Heckate or even Kali (I think).


    Are you saying that abortion is a pagan conspiracy?


    I don't know. It's like trying to figure out which came first....the chicken or the egg. I'd have to say the abortion industry attracts pagans, but not everyone in the industry is a pagan.

    Alot of it is big money and big science....but pagans like it.


    Which country do you live in? (I'm tempted to ask which planet you live on Wink ) I have certainly not noticed anything of the sort.

    Re my position when I was a Muslim, I always believed it was a woman's right to choose. I hold the same position now.
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