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  • Re: Church Threatening To Make Sins Public
     Reply #30 - December 21, 2008, 11:07 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on December 21, 2008, 10:48 PM
    P.S. I'm not allowed to preach any more, because the bible says a woman is not allowed to preach.


    You mean St. Paul said so.   Why do you think Jesus first revealed the resurrection to three women and told them to go and announce it? 
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Church Threatening To Make Sins Public
     Reply #31 - December 21, 2008, 11:08 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on December 21, 2008, 11:02 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on December 21, 2008, 10:37 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on December 21, 2008, 10:05 PM
    Are you saying the congregation of the church in question are without sin and therefore qualified to cast stones?


    Nope. I'm not saying that at all...not even close.

    Well then, why should their actions be dependent on her repentance?


    Well, if she had repented, their actions would be definitely wrong! Something about this story is not making sense to me.
  • Re: Church Threatening To Make Sins Public
     Reply #32 - December 21, 2008, 11:13 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on December 21, 2008, 11:07 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on December 21, 2008, 10:48 PM
    P.S. I'm not allowed to preach any more, because the bible says a woman is not allowed to preach.


    You mean St. Paul said so.   Why do you think Jesus first revealed the resurrection to three women and told them to go and announce it? 


    He did not tell them to go and preach theology, but chose Paul to do most of that.
  • Re: Church Threatening To Make Sins Public
     Reply #33 - December 21, 2008, 11:14 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on December 21, 2008, 11:08 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on December 21, 2008, 11:02 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on December 21, 2008, 10:37 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on December 21, 2008, 10:05 PM
    Are you saying the congregation of the church in question are without sin and therefore qualified to cast stones?


    Nope. I'm not saying that at all...not even close.

    Well then, why should their actions be dependent on her repentance?


    Well, if she had repented, their actions would be definitely wrong! Something about this story is not making sense to me.

    Ok, so you're not saying they are qualified to cast stones, and yet you wont say their actions are wrong.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Church Threatening To Make Sins Public
     Reply #34 - December 21, 2008, 11:15 PM
    He chose them to announce the Resurrection officially.  If women are not allowed to preach,  the Apostles should unanimously have followed the example of Thomas and refused to believe them.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Church Threatening To Make Sins Public
     Reply #35 - December 21, 2008, 11:22 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on December 21, 2008, 11:14 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on December 21, 2008, 11:08 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on December 21, 2008, 11:02 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on December 21, 2008, 10:37 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on December 21, 2008, 10:05 PM
    Are you saying the congregation of the church in question are without sin and therefore qualified to cast stones?


    Nope. I'm not saying that at all...not even close.

    Well then, why should their actions be dependent on her repentance?


    Well, if she had repented, their actions would be definitely wrong! Something about this story is not making sense to me.

    Ok, so you're not saying they are qualified to cast stones, and yet you wont say their actions are wrong.


    This is only my opinion. I do not think they need to tell the details of her unrepented sin, only tell the congregation she has sin that she is not willing to repent and that it is with sorrow that he is banning her from the church in hopes that she will repent.

    There is no need to even say it is a sexual sin....but a rebellious attitude.

    That is only my opinion.
  • Re: Church Threatening To Make Sins Public
     Reply #36 - December 21, 2008, 11:25 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on December 21, 2008, 11:15 PM
    He chose them to announce the Resurrection officially.  If women are not allowed to preach,  the Apostles should unanimously have followed the example of Thomas and refused to believe them.


    They were not preaching. They were just announcing.
  • Re: Church Threatening To Make Sins Public
     Reply #37 - December 21, 2008, 11:28 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on December 21, 2008, 11:25 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on December 21, 2008, 11:15 PM
    He chose them to announce the Resurrection officially.  If women are not allowed to preach,  the Apostles should unanimously have followed the example of Thomas and refused to believe them.


    They were not preaching. They were just announcing.


    In this context, there is little or no difference.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Church Threatening To Make Sins Public
     Reply #38 - December 21, 2008, 11:36 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on December 21, 2008, 11:28 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on December 21, 2008, 11:25 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on December 21, 2008, 11:15 PM
    He chose them to announce the Resurrection officially.  If women are not allowed to preach,  the Apostles should unanimously have followed the example of Thomas and refused to believe them.


    They were not preaching. They were just announcing.


    In this context, there is little or no difference.


    They did not teach what the Resurrection means, but they did get to announce the best news in all of history!
  • Re: Church Threatening To Make Sins Public
     Reply #39 - December 21, 2008, 11:42 PM
    Jesus taught that himself so they didn't need to.  There was no forbidding of their teaching such a thing, (until Paul came along), it was just unnecessary.  To give them the task of bearing witness to the proof of Jesus' teaching runs contrary to Paul's misogynistic take on a woman's role.  Which, btw, is also a subject on which Paul contradicts himself.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
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