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  • Have the youth of today.........
     OP - November 10, 2008, 01:55 PM
    Created the language of tomorrow?

    Ie text speak.

    Are we seeing the beginning of a writtten language that will become a valid language beyond the realm of kids using it?

    Is it the new shorthand?

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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #1 - November 10, 2008, 02:21 PM
    I hope not, text speak is really ugly. finmad
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #2 - November 10, 2008, 02:36 PM
    Agreed, but that doesn't invalidate it. If it increases in common useage and makes reading and writing more accessible to, say dyslexics, for starters, then I'd be all for it. English is a language that especially morphs alot over time, with some words even coming to mean their original opposite. Cleave is an old eg and wicked is a modern one. And look what's happening to affect and effect.
    Teaching's not all 'Hough nough broughn cough' in English now  you know. We even do some lesson plans on texting as well as swearing. Language, first and foremost is about communication and if that facility is improved, who can knock it - academics maybe?
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #3 - November 10, 2008, 02:45 PM
    Yeah, initially I was against such a bastardisation of the English language as I know it, but lately I have been thinking "what is the big deal" because if they understand it and it works for them, who am I to judge in truth.

    English has evolved before, language is always changing, for all we know this could be the standard language in the future and our version of English will seem shakespearean to them.

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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #4 - November 10, 2008, 02:55 PM
    Yep. After the ice had departed  the original hunter/gatherer Brythons followed it northwards. The Celts came next, probably subsuming them. Then the Romans, the Anglo/Saxon/Jutes, the Norsemen, The Normans and many waves of refugees and imigrants. Thats 5/6 major influences incorporated and what's the most used word in English? Curry - that's what. Good isn't it.
      c.800,000 words against c. 200,000 in Spanish. Crazy but brilliant.
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #5 - November 10, 2008, 03:06 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on November 10, 2008, 02:21 PM
    I hope not, text speak is really ugly. finmad


    Amen! I even refuse to write text-messages in that terrible shorthand! cool2
  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #6 - November 10, 2008, 03:08 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on November 10, 2008, 02:45 PM
    English has evolved before, language is always changing, for all we know this could be the standard language in the future and our version of English will seem shakespearean to them.


    Heh. How much more incomprehensible will Shakespeare be? But then again, if we keep reading the same books (classics), our language shouldn't change too much. But then again, how did Mark Twain define 'classic' books? "Classic: a book which people praise and don't read."
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #7 - November 10, 2008, 03:41 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on November 10, 2008, 02:21 PM
    I hope not, text speak is really ugly. finmad


    Yeah, if it is anything like the abbreviations for technical terms.. no thank you. No consistency.
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #8 - November 10, 2008, 05:56 PM
    ROFL! WWJD AFK!  Roll Eyes
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #9 - November 10, 2008, 05:58 PM
    Of course it's crap to us, but be prepared for your grandkids sending you christmas cards in text speak lol
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #10 - November 10, 2008, 06:41 PM
    Text speech the new language? Are you dizzy bled? You can barely make out what it means. Some of the words are the same but mean something different.
  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #11 - November 10, 2008, 06:49 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on November 10, 2008, 05:58 PM
    Of course it's crap to us, but be prepared for your grandkids sending you christmas cards in text speak lol

    cut the l33t c4rds u little haxxor or I will put the cap on your xmas sox.
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #12 - November 10, 2008, 07:17 PM
    Quote from: awais.x on November 10, 2008, 03:08 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on November 10, 2008, 02:45 PM
    English has evolved before, language is always changing, for all we know this could be the standard language in the future and our version of English will seem shakespearean to them.


    Heh. How much more incomprehensible will Shakespeare be? But then again, if we keep reading the same books (classics), our language shouldn't change too much. But then again, how did Mark Twain define 'classic' books? "Classic: a book which people praise and don't read."


    Books, Bah, Humbug! And why do  Muslims and Christians and Hindus and Buddihists still have stone age mindsets? Couldn't be anything to do with the books they read would it?
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #13 - November 11, 2008, 02:00 AM
    calm down sojournerlumus, not everything has to be about religion(ists)
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #14 - November 12, 2008, 02:08 AM
    I can't stand 'text talk' on normal forums or in e-mails. I guess it's the English Lit student in me talking but I just can't cope with it. It burns my eyes.

    I don't mind it in actual text messages though, because characters are limited so I can understand why people would use 'text talk'.

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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #15 - November 12, 2008, 08:22 AM
    I don't even use "text talk" in text messages. It's just as easy to send a message in English and it's much easier to read.
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #16 - November 12, 2008, 08:24 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on November 12, 2008, 08:22 AM
    I don't even use "text talk" in text messages.


    Me neither. I feel like it's rude, and makes me look like an ignoramus who can't spell.
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #17 - November 12, 2008, 08:27 AM
    Don't you think it is comparable to short hand?  if you had a secreatary who used short hand to make notes, what would you think of a friend who had a secretary who used txt speak instead?
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #18 - November 12, 2008, 08:28 AM
    Wouldn't bother me, as long as I wasn't expected to read it. Tongue
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #19 - November 12, 2008, 10:01 PM
    Quote from: awais.x on November 11, 2008, 02:00 AM
    calm down sojournerlumus, not everything has to be about religion(ists)

    Good God no.
    But seriously, I bet someone, somewhere is translating the quran and the bible into txspk.
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #20 - November 12, 2008, 10:11 PM
    Have you seen the lolcat bible?  Cheesy
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #21 - November 12, 2008, 10:45 PM
    I can't text. I'm sooo slow so I don't even bother. It's weird because my peers can probably text while they sleep. Textspeak reminds me of Newspeak. No thanks.
    I like my English.
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #22 - November 13, 2008, 03:23 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on November 12, 2008, 10:11 PM
    Have you seen the lolcat bible?  Cheesy

     Cheesy Cheesy
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #23 - November 13, 2008, 03:52 PM
    Quote from: sojournerlumus on November 13, 2008, 03:23 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on November 12, 2008, 10:11 PM
    Have you seen the lolcat bible?  Cheesy

     Cheesy Cheesy


    Lmao just looked that one up, srsly  Cheesy
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  • Re: Have the youth of today.........
     Reply #24 - November 13, 2008, 03:56 PM
    Quote from: Iggy on November 12, 2008, 10:45 PM
    I can't text. I'm sooo slow so I don't even bother. It's weird because my peers can probably text while they sleep. Textspeak reminds me of Newspeak. No thanks.
    I like my English.


    Same here. But Im studying 1984 right now.
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