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 Topic: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.

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  • Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     OP - November 04, 2008, 05:23 AM

     parrot bunny thnkyu

    I like the smileys.
     Afro mysmilie_977

    hello.
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #1 - November 04, 2008, 05:28 AM

    Smileys r us. Aint got any rats, unfortunately. Got just about everything else though.

    Burbles went nuts on smileys. Our pop-up fills a 1280x800. Grin

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #2 - November 04, 2008, 05:46 AM

    Welcome BWE! Tell us something about yourself Smiley

    I hear the rains, I see the fire, I feel the flame. It doesn't change the faces I want to blame for the shame I'm feeling.
    But the winds of change will blow again. And we're the lucky ones who travel on towards the sun.

    Can you hear it calling you?
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #3 - November 04, 2008, 08:07 AM

    Hello, welcome to the forum. Smiley

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #4 - November 05, 2008, 07:26 AM

    Welcome BWE

    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #5 - November 05, 2008, 11:38 AM

    You won't get a smiley from me  but you do get a big fat HELLO.

    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #6 - November 05, 2008, 11:40 AM

    BWE is a mate of mine from elsewhere. He's one of the best creo-kickers on the web when he gets going.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #7 - November 05, 2008, 11:42 AM

    Ah right, you know I've been sitting here thinking did this person post just to say that, but if you know him then it all makes sense aloofandbored0

    Welcome BWE, we like CreoKickers around here  dance

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #8 - November 05, 2008, 11:45 AM

    Oh well I posted over at TalkRats sorta like "w00t! We've hooked live one!" so BWE came over to take a look. Might have to get the football back here at some stage for more fun and games.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #9 - November 05, 2008, 11:47 AM

    I must learn to be more careful and try to keep the ball in the field instead of kicking it all the way out lol  Tongue

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #10 - November 05, 2008, 11:51 AM

    He only left because he's a pigeon and they like to be able to shit all over the place. If you cage them and make them sit in their own shit they don't like it so much.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #11 - November 05, 2008, 11:53 AM

    I noticed.  Cheesy

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #12 - November 05, 2008, 11:56 AM

    As long as we can limit the quantity and distribution of shit it might be amusing to have the pigeon around intermittently.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #13 - November 05, 2008, 02:09 PM

    We need to get a big fish like the yahya kind.

    I was not blessed with the ability to have blind faith. I cant beleive something just because someone says its true.
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #14 - November 05, 2008, 06:01 PM

    As long as we can limit the quantity and distribution of shit it might be amusing to have the pigeon around intermittently.

    Well, you do need fertiliser from time to time to  keep stuff growing well.

    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #15 - November 05, 2008, 09:20 PM

    It can be useful.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Well, don't just stand there, do nothing.
     Reply #16 - November 05, 2008, 09:43 PM

    If I can get this darned link linked, have you seen Nick Cohen's latest offering in The Observer 2/3.11.08

    Quote
    « You annoy an oligarch at your peril
    Creationism’s march will go on
    The Observer, Sunday November 2 2008
    The idea of intelligent fundamentalists, like the theory of intelligent design, does not stand up to 30 seconds’ scrutiny. I must, nevertheless, give credit to American evangelicals for showing belated glimmerings of sense. After decades of blindly endorsing evangelical politicians from the born-again Carter to the born-again Bush, they at last appear ready to look for more than religious dogma in a candidate.
    Richard Cizik, the Washington representative of the National Association of Evangelicals, has all but backed Obama. ‘I’m a conservative, but it doesn’t mean I’m going to vote that way,’ he announced. ‘I could disagree with Obama, and do, on same-sex marriage and abortion, but that doesn’t mean I’ll vote against him.’
    Cizik has been criticised by the American conservative press, but his abandonment of faith in the Republican party may be a sign of a wider disillusionment. Foreigners, who bought Michael Moore’s cartoon version of America as a land dominated by quasi-fascist bigots, may not understand why, but Christian conservatives have good reason to feel cheated.
    The Republicans not only took their votes and left them with jobs that may vanish and homes the banks may repossess, but failed to deliver the conservative counter-revolution they promised. After eight years of Bush, abortion is still legal and the gay marriage movement is marching on. The congregations of Cizik’s and other churches have every right to shrug their shoulders and vote Obama or give up on politics and stay at home. Evelyn Waugh complained in 1951 that the British Conservative party had ‘never put the clock back by a single second’. We will have to wait until the votes are in, but American evangelicals could say the same about today’s Republicans.
    The fate of the creationists shows why. Bush whipped up the futile passions of his supporters by encouraging schools to balance the teaching of the theory of evolution with the theory of ‘intelligent design’, which is nothing more than creationism dressed up in the language of pseudo-science to avoid America’s prohibition on religion in the classroom.
    Creationists in Dover, Pennsylvania, took him at his word. With the shameful, but I suppose inevitable, support of an English academic postmodernist, one Steve Fuller of Warwick University, they argued that truth was relative. Teachers should not discriminate between evidence and superstition, but tell children that it was as reasonable to believe that a god-like intelligence designed life as to think that species evolved through undirected natural selection.
    A Republican in the White House did them no good. In September 2005, Judge John E Jones ruled that they were trying to slip the Book of Genesis into science classes and came down against them. Three years on from their defeat, and with the Democrats certain to dominate Washington, the hopes of the intelligent design movement appear dead.
    But ideas do not die, they spread and mutate. Creationism might be on the back foot in America, but it is blossoming elsewhere as Richard Dawkins discovered when Turkish readers told him they could no longer access his website. Dawkins’s offence was to satirise Harun Yahya, the pen name of Adnan Oktar, the front man for a wealthy Islamic publishing house. Its lavishly illustrated Atlas of Creation spends 500 pages comparing fossils with present-day species to argue that evolution never took place. Dawkins looked at a picture of an ancient fossilised eel and a picture of what Yahya claimed was a modern eel and pointed out that it was in fact a sea snake.
    Yahya went on to represent the immutability of God’s creation by claiming that a fossilised insect had survived unchanged for millions of years. Unfortunately, the modern version of the caddis fly Yahya chose to illustrate his point was not a fly at all, but a steel fish-hook with a fake insect on top to lure fish on to the line.
    Yahya is a joke, but few Turks are laughing. Index on Censorship reported last week that the Turkish courts and the Islamist government were banning Turks from accessing YouTube and the hosting sites Blogger and WordPress for various moral and political reasons as well as richarddawkins.net. When Bianet, a Turkish human rights group, published a critical piece, Yahya told its journalists: ‘This is an insulting article, take it off the internet or we will have you banned like Richard Dawkins.’
    ‘On the one hand, fundamentalists say all they want is a debate,’ said Padraig Reidy of Index. ‘But as soon as they get power, they close debate down.’
    Westerners say that Yahya reminds them of American creationists. The link is more solid than they know. In Atlas of Creation, Yahya acknowledges his debt to Duane Gish from the Institute for Creation Research in Texas. Gish has spent years arguing that the fossil record contains no evidence of species evolving and blustering whenever a palaeontologist contradicted him. As a Muslim, Yahya did not need to accept the institute’s Protestant fundamentalist ‘young-Earth’ doctrine - the notion that God made the world in 4004BC or thereabouts. But he happily borrowed Gish’s equally idiotic delusion that today’s species cannot have evolved and must therefore be identical to their ancestors of tens or hundreds of millions of years ago.
    Vast sums of probably Saudi money are fuelling the move of creationism across the Atlantic. In Turkey and the Middle East, poor schools are grateful for Yahya’s free books and scientists are becoming frightened of speaking out. Last year, the Council of Europe warned that Yahya was also targeting schools in France, Belgium, Spain and Switzerland. In Britain, academics talk of expelling mainly Muslim science students. They do not make a fuss about it in case post-modern relativists in the mould of Steve Fuller accuse them of religious discrimination, but say, very quietly, that if religion stops their students accepting evolution, there is no point in them staying at university.
    Maybe in a generation’s time, Americans will patronise Europeans as quasi-fascist bigots. If we are to avoid their condescension, we must accept that creationism will not go down with the American conservative movement. It is evolving and its opponents must evolve, too, if they want to defeat it
    This entry was posted on Monday, November 3rd, 2008 at 12:26 pm and is filed under All, The Observer. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. Both comments and pings are currently closed.


    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
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