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 Topic: Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??

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  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #30 - January 07, 2020, 06:06 PM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ArminNavabi/status/1214419964146282496
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    A painting of Qasem Soleimani embraced by Imam Hussein in heaven as a martyr. The Islamic Republic has very effectively used the death of Soleimani to create an illusion of unity in Iran and among Shias in the region, which was much needed after the recent protests. But the underlying economic problems and sectarian divisions remain. This illusion will not last long.

  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #31 - January 08, 2020, 12:03 AM

    Damn.. American targeted  drone kills that guy and few heroes of Islam., Iranian mullhas and imams  enraging crowd with their Islamic martyr sermons kill 60 people and injure some 200..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p95ztvBZn4

    56 Killed In Stampede At Funeral For Iranian General Qasem Soleimani  that is the heading of that tube..

    dozens dead in crush at Suleimani burial procession  says Gaurdian news with this picture

     

    Scoundrels preaching faiths to faith heads exploit emotions of foolish crowd....

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #32 - January 08, 2020, 12:27 AM

    Not all were there by choice...

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MaryamNamazie/status/1214609424859439105
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    But also don’t forget that government employees must attend as must those who need their subsidies booklet stamped. Not everyone at rally necessarily supported him.

  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #33 - January 08, 2020, 12:32 AM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ArminNavabi/status/1214688669891584000
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    Iranian propaganda art: Qasem Soleimani returns from heaven, unleashing havoc on Washington, DC while American soldiers run away in fear

  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #34 - January 08, 2020, 12:51 AM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JackDetsch_ALM/status/1214709573220741120
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    What we know so far from the Pentagon: Iran has launched more than a dozen ballistic missiles against Iraqi bases housing US troops. No official assessments of casualties or damage yet.


    https://mobile.twitter.com/RashaAlAqeedi/status/1214707997198471168
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    Quick note: Al Asad is an Iraqi military base hosting coalition troops. It's not an American base. There are far more Iraqi forces at the base than American.


    https://mobile.twitter.com/CrispinBurke/status/1214709422288715777
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    There are casualties among the Iraqis at Ain al-Asad airbase following the attack early Wednesday local time, an Iraqi security source tells CNN

  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #35 - January 08, 2020, 02:57 AM



    That is much worse ., forcing people in to large crowd...

    but the news says  Iran attacks US forces in Iraq in retaliation for killing of commander

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    Iran said it launched a missile attack on US-led forces in Iraq in the early hours of Wednesday in retaliation for the US drone strike on an Iranian commander whose killing has raised fears of a wider war in the Middle East.

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    Tehran fired more than a dozen ballistic missiles from Iranian territory against at least two Iraqi military bases hosting US-led coalition personnel at about 1:30am local time, the US military said on Tuesday.

    Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps confirmed that they fired the rockets to retaliate for last week's killing of Qasem Soleimani, according to a statement on state TV.

    The statement advised the United States to withdraw its troops from the region to prevent more deaths, state TV said.


    The Pentagon did not provide reports of casualties in the attack.

    "We are working on initial battle damage assessments," Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman said in a statement, adding that the bases targeted were al-Asad air base and another in Erbil, Iraq.

    "As we evaluate the situation and our response, we will take all necessary measures to protect and defend US personnel, partners, and allies in the region."

    US President Donald Trump, who visited the al-Asad air base in December 2018, has been briefed on reports of the attack and was monitoring the situation, White House spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham said.

    "We are aware of the reports of attacks on US facilities in Iraq. The president has been briefed and is monitoring the situation closely and consulting with his national security team," Grisham said in a statement.

    US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and US Defence Secretary Mark Esper arrived at the White House following news of the attack. It was unclear what response, if any, the United States was planning.

    Hours earlier on Tuesday, Esper said the United States should anticipate retaliation from Iran over Friday's killing in Iraq of Soleimani, commander of the elite Quds Force.

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    "I think we should expect that they will retaliate in some way, shape or form," he told a news briefing at the Pentagon, adding that such retaliation could be through Iran-backed proxy groups outside of Iran or "by their own hand".

    "We're prepared for any contingency. And then we will respond appropriately to whatever they do."

    Military jets could be seen flying over the Iraqi capital early Wednesday, hours after the missile attack.

    AFP's correspondents saw jets cutting through the clouds over Baghdad but could not immediately identify the planes.

    Stock markets in Asia fell sharply on news of the rocket attack, while investor safe havens including the Japanese yen and gold shot higher. US crude prices surged almost 5 per cent on worries any conflict could cut oil supplies.

    The US Federal Aviation Administration said it would prohibit US civil aviation operators from operating in the airspace over Iraq, Iran, the Gulf and the Gulf of Oman. Singapore Airlines had already diverted all flight routes from Iranian airspace.


    ....................French President Emmanuel Macron, in a phone call on Tuesday to Iran's president, Hassan Rouhani, urged Tehran to avoid any actions that could worsen regional tensions.

    US officials have said Soleimani was killed because of solid intelligence indicating forces under his command planned attacks on US targets in the region, although they have provided no evidence.

    Ali Shamkhani, secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, said 13 "revenge scenarios" were being considered, Fars news agency reported. Even the weakest option would prove "a historic nightmare for the Americans", he said.


    well that and more is there at that link...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #36 - January 08, 2020, 10:38 AM

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GVJ49EdHi34&feature=youtu.be
  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #37 - January 08, 2020, 01:59 PM

    https://iranwire.com/en/features/6595
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    An Iranian diplomat has told IranWire that Iran intentionally attacked “US bases and facilities” and deliberately avoided “personnel” on the morning of January 8, after days of deliberation. During a short call using a public phone, the diplomat, who asked not to be named or have his location disclosed because he feared repercussions for discussing sensitive matters, said, “I’m just worried about the possibility of a war and destruction and just wanted to talk to someone I could trust.”

    The diplomat insisted that he only had a few minutes to speak and did not want to risk using an Iranian mission’s landline or his cell phone. “Everything we do can be monitored. So I have to be cautious,” he told IranWire.

    According to the diplomat, the levels of external and internal security have increased in Iranian missions around the world since January 3, when US forces killed Iranian Revolutionary Guards general Ghasem Soleimani in Baghdad, Iraq. “There’s more police presence around the missions and the movements of the embassy staff are monitored more than before.”

    According to the diplomat, Iran’s decision to attack two American bases in Al Asad, northwest of Baghad, and Erbil in the Iraqi Independent Kurdistan region, came after days of deliberation in Tehran. “From what I know some Revolutionary Guards and military commanders insisted that Iran’s revenge must be restrained and that any American casualty can lead to an all-out war that could lead to the destruction of many parts of Iran and possibly the downfall of the government.” The diplomat said those who urged for restraint were led by Ali Shamkhani (the secretary of the Supreme National Security Council of Iran). Admiral Shamkhani is a former Revolutionary Guards’ commander and, like General Soleimani, is a veteran of the Iran-Iraq War (1980-88). “Mr Shamkhani knows what war is and doesn’t want to see a repeat of it.”

    Among those who insisted on taking deadly revenge were members of Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s family and staff, the diplomat said. “From what I know from very reliable sources, the people around Mr Khamenei thought revenge must be taken quickly, otherwise Mr Khamenei would look weak and vulnerable.”

    US forces have reported no casualties in the bases. Meanwhile, Iranian Revolutionary Guards have said that at least 80 “American terrorists” were killed in the attacks, referring to American soldiers. The Guards have also threatened to attack 104 other American and Israeli targets in the region if the US retaliates. In a tweet following the attacks, President Trump said, “All is well! Assessment of casualties & damages taking place now. So far, so good! I will be making a statement tomorrow morning.”

    The diplomat contacted IranWire only a few minutes before Ayatollah Khamenei addressed the Iranian nation on January 8. In the speech, the ayatollah praised Soleimani’s wisdom and intelligence. “Some people are brave but not wise,” said Khamenei. “But the martyr Soleimani was brave and wise.” The Leader also called for national unity and the end of the US “corrupt presence” in the Middle East. “We slapped the Americans last night,” he said. “We’ve not taken revenge yet.”

    “Mr. Khamenei is 80 years old and all he’s thinking about is his legacy. He doesn’t want to be remembered as a leader who surrendered to the Americans,” said the Iranian diplomat. “Please pray for Iran. May God save us.”

  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #38 - January 08, 2020, 02:36 PM

    Iran says 80 Americans killed in missile strikes
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    Iranian state television said on Wednesday that at least 80 "American terrorists" were killed in attacks involving 15 missiles Tehran launched on U.S. targets in Iraq, adding that none of the missiles were intercepted.


    State TV, citing a senior Revolutionary Guards source, also said Iran had 100 other targets in the region in its sights if Washington took any retaliatory measures. It also said U.S. helicopters and military equipment were "severely damaged".

    Iran launched missile attacks on U.S.-led forces in Iraq in the early hours of Wednesday in retaliation for the U.S. drone strike on an Iranian commander whose killing has raised fears of a wider war in the Middle East.

    Shortly after the attack, Iran's army renewed the demand for U.S. troops to be withdrawn from the Middle East.

    "Now that they have understood our power, it is time for the United States to withdraw its troops from the Middle East," Iran's armed forces chief of staff General Mohammad Baqeri said in a statement, according to state television.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhIHyKuBp88


    well that is the news

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #39 - January 08, 2020, 02:51 PM

    Causalities.............

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzR3rs1qFu4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwBzqVy0dt0

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #40 - January 08, 2020, 03:05 PM

    The 80 Americans killed may be fantasy but it does look as if the Iranians may have accidentally shot down the Ukrainian plane: https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/628650-ukrainian-aircraft-down-iran.html
  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #41 - January 08, 2020, 03:16 PM

    The 80 Americans killed may be fantasy but it does look as if the Iranians may have accidentally shot down the Ukrainian plane: https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/628650-ukrainian-aircraft-down-iran.html

     that is very much possible  from these fools as Iranian Mullah govt says they will not give those Black boxes from it

    FLIGHT PS752 PASSENGER LIST

    Quote
    Abaspourqadi Mohamm 1986
    Abbasnezhad Mojtaba 1993
    Abtahiforoushani Seyedmehran 1982
    Aghabali Iman 1991
    Agha Miri Maryam 1973
    Ahmadi Motahereh 2011
    Ahmadi Muh Sen 2014
    Ahmadi Rahmtin 2010
    Ahmadi Sekinhe 1989
    Ahmady Mitra 1973
    Amirliravi Mahsa 1989
    Arasteh Fareed 1987
    Arbabbahrami Arshia 2000
    Arsalani Evin 1990
    Asadilari Mohammadhossein 1996
    Asadilari Zeynab 1998
    Ashrafi Habibabadi Amir 1991
    Attar Mahmood 1950
    Azadian Roja 1977
    Azhdari Ghanimat 1983
    Badiei Ardestani Mehraban 2001
    Bashiri Samira 1990
    Beiruti Mohammad Amin 1990
    Borghei Negar 1989
    Choupannejad Shekoufeh 1963
    Dadashnejad Delaram 1993
    Daneshmand Mojgan 1976
    Dhirani Asgar 1945
    Djavadi Asll Hamidreza 1967
    Djavadi Asll Kian 2002
    Ebnoddin Hamidi Ardalan 1971
    Ebnoddin Hamidi Kamyar 2004
    Ebrahim Niloufar 1985
    Ebrahimi Khoei Behnaz 1974
    Eghbali Bazoft Shahrokh 1960
    Eghbali Bazoft Shahzad 2011
    Eghbalian Parisa 1977
    Elyasi Mohammad Mahdi 1991
    Emami Sayedmahdi 1959
    Emami Sophie 2014
    Eshaghian Dorcheh Mehdi 1995
    Esmaeilion Reera 2010
    Esnaashary Esfahani Mansour 1990
    Faghihi Sharieh 1961
    Falsafi Faezeh 1973
    Falsafi Faraz 1988
    Farzaneh Aida 1986
    Feghahati Shakiba 1980
    Foroutan Marzieh 1982
    Ghaderpanah Iman 1985
    Ghaderpanah Parinaz 1986
    Ghafouri Azar Siavash 1984
    Ghandchi Daniel 2011
    Ghandchi Dorsa 2003
    Ghasemi Ariani Milad 1987
    Ghasemi Dastjerdi Fatemeh 1994
    Ghasemi Amirhossein 1987
    Ghasemi Kiana 2000
    Ghavi Mandieh 1999
    Ghavi Masoumeh 1989
    Gholami Farideh 1981
    Ghorbani Bahabadi A 1998
    Golbabapour Suzan 1970
    Gorji Pouneh 1994
    Haghjoo Saharnaz 1982
    Hajesfandiari Bahareh 1978
    Hajiaghavand Sadaf 1992
    Hajighassemi Mandieh 1981
    Hamzeei Sara 1986
    Hasani/sadi Zahra 1994
    Hashemi Shanrzad 1974
    Hassannezhad Parsa 2003
    Hatefi Mostaghim Sahan 1987
    Hayatdavoudi Hadis 1992
    Jadidi Elsa 2011
    Jadidi Pedran 1991
    Jamshidi Shadi 1988
    Jebelli Mohammaddam 1990
    Kadkhoda Zaden Mohammaddam 1979
    Kadkhodazaden Kasha 1990
    Karamimoghadam Bahareh 1986
    Katebi Rahimen 1999
    Kaveh Azaden 1979
    Kazerani Fatemeh 1987
    Khadem Forough 1981
    Kobiuk Olga 1958
    Lindberg Emil 2012
    Lindberg Erik 2010
    Lindberg Raheleh 1982
    Lindberg Mikael 1979
    Madani Firouzeh 1965
    Maghsoudlouestarabadi Siavash 1976
    Maghsoudlouesterabadi Paria 2004
    Mahmoodi Fatemeh 1989
    Malakhova Olena 1981
    Malek Maryam 1979
    Maleki Dizaje Fereshteh 1972
    Mamani Sara 1983
    Mianji Mohammadjavad 1992
    Moeini Mohammad 1984
    Moghaddam Rosstin 2010
    Mohammadi Mehdi 1999
    Molani Hiva 1981
    Molani Kurdia 2018
    Moradi Amir 1998
    Morattab Arvin 1984
    Moshrefrazavimoghaddam Soheila 1964
    Mousavi Daria 2005
    Mousavi Dorina 2010
    Mousavibafrooei Pedram 1972
    Nabiyi Elnaz 1989
    Naderi Farzahen 1981
    Naghibi Zahra 1975
    Naghib Lahouti Mehr 1987
    Nahavandi Milad 1985
    Niazi Arnica 2011
    Niazi Arsan 2008
    Niknam Farhad 1975
    Norouzi Alireza 2008
    Nourian Ghazal 1993
    Oladi Alma 1992
    Omidbakhsh Roja 1996
    Ovaysi Amir Hossein 1978
    Ovaysi Asal 2013
    Pasavand Fatemeh 2002
    Pey Alireza 1972
    Pourghaderi Ayeshe 1983
    Pourjam Mansour 1966
    Pourshabanoshibi Naser 1966
    Pourzarabi Arash 1993
    Raana Shahab 1983
    Rahimi Jiwan 2016
    Rahimi Razgar 1981
    Rahmanifar Nasim 1994
    Razzaghi Khamsi Ni 1974
    Rezai Mahdi 2000
    Rezae Hossain 1999
    Saadat Saba 1998
    Saadat Sara 1996
    Saadat Zeinolabedin 1990
    Saati Kasra 1972
    Sadeghi Alvand 1990
    Sadeghi Anisa 2009
    Sadeghi Mirmohammad 1976
    Sadeghi Sahand 1980
    Sadighi Neda 1969
    Sadr Niloufar 1958
    Sadr Seyednoojan 2008
    Saeedinia Amirhosse 1994
    Safarpoorkoloor Pe 1999
    Saket Mohammadhosse 1986
    Salahi Moh 1988
    Saleheh Mohammad 1987
    Saraeian Sajedeh 1993
    Setareh Kokab Hamid 1988
    Shadkhoo Sheyda 1978
    Shaterpour Khiaban 1988
    Soltani Paniz 1991
    Tahmasebi Khademasa 1984
    Tajik Mahdi 1999
    Tajik Shahram 1998
    Tarbhai Afifa 1964
    Tarbha Alina 1988
    Toghian Darya 1997
    Zarei Arad 2002
    Zibaie Maya 2004
    Zokaei Sam 1977
     
    Quote
    According to Ukraine's foreign minister, 82 Iranians, 10 Swedes, four Afghans, three Germans and three Britons were on the plane in addition to the Canadians. Eleven Ukrainians  —  including the nine crew — were also on board.



    90% of them are from Iran....

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #42 - January 09, 2020, 12:56 PM

    Iran plane crash: Canada mourns Iran crash victims_ 138 were connected to Canada says BBC news

    Quote
    All 176 people on board Ukraine Flight PS752 were killed early on Wednesday morning when the plane crashed shortly after takeoff in Iran.

    Quote
    The flight was headed for Kiev, but the vast majority of them - 138 according to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau - were connecting to Canada.

    Sixty-three of them were Canadian nationals, but many more called Canada their home, at least temporarily.

    They lived in cities like Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver and Edmonton. Many were students or professors, working on important research in their fields.

    US sanctions have made it increasingly difficult to travel between Iran and Canada, and the Ukraine International Airlines flight from Tehran to Kiev and then to Toronto is popular because it is one of the most affordable options for the journey, said Younes Zangiabadi with the Iranian Canadian Congress.
    Quote
    The deaths have cast a pall over university campuses across the country.

    "They were the best of us," Elnaz Morshedi told the BBC at a vigil held for the victims at the University of Toronto.

    Like many being held across the country, it was a impromptu event, quickly put together in the hours after the plane went down.

    The ceremony was held mostly in Persian, in a small room in a student housing complex on campus.

    Over 100 people gathered to pay their respects, and to share Quranic verses and stories about the loved ones who died.

    Tea and sweets were served. Many were still in shock from the news, less than 24 hours old.

    "You look at the odds of such a thing happening to you," said Seyed Hossein Mortazavi with disbelief, "but I suppose that's fate."

    "They definitely didn't expect this. None of us did. But I think it's just a burden the whole community has to carry."

    Canada is home to a large Iranian diaspora, with some 210,000 citizens of Iranian descent, according to the federal census. But Mr Mortazavi said that on campuses the community feels small.


    The truth about that flight is still in dark.. there is very little to doubt whether  that flight was shot down  or not but the question to answer is  WAS IT AN ACCIDENT OR DELIBERATE .....

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #43 - January 09, 2020, 01:18 PM

    ^It’s speculation but my guess is that it was shot down by accident. Posts here from another forum by someone in the UK military:
    Quote
    Tbh, pretty much everyone says it looks like a mistaken shoot down by an Iranian missile site - it simply looks like nothing else.

    Quote
    More nuanced than that - all communication with the aircraft (including all the uncommanded stuff like transponder, ASD-B etc.. ended suddenly, and then the aircraft fluttered/cartwheeled around in the air until it hit the ground. There's video of it flying/falling/burning, and it's not remotely reminiscent of any kind of controlled flight that you've ever seen.

    The flight pattern (like everything else) is very reminiscent of the Malaysian shoot down over Ukraine - it fluttered down like a piece of paper dropped out of a window: forwards, backwards, upside down....

    Quote
    The 'how/why?' is pretty easy - Tehran is surrounded buy anti-aircraft missile batteries and this happened at exactly the time that Tehran expected to be attacked by air.

    Jumpy battery commander seeing what he expected to see and reacted to it - the annals of military history are bulging at the seams with incidents where someone who is tired/stressed/scared sees something that they interpret as what they are expecting/fear/hoping for and they charge at it, completely disregarding the huge pile of evidence/indicators that in fact it's very much not the thing they expect/fear/hope for.

    Quote
    Not really. It was an early morning flight, if not the first, then one of the first. Tunnel vision tells you the aircraft is descending even when the radar you're looking at tells it's ascending, tunnel vision tells you it's transponder is squawking a foreign military code even when the radar you're looking at tells you it's squawking a civilian code, tunnel vision tells you it's screaming in at Mach 1 even when your radar tells you it's doing 350kts and flying out from the airport.

  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #44 - January 09, 2020, 01:42 PM

    ^It’s speculation but my guess is that it was shot down by accident................


    WHO DO YOU THINK SHOT DOWN THAT PLANE WITH FULL OF INTERNATIONAL PASSENGERS BY ACCIDENT dear zeca??

    well I would suggest a better route for western traveler that are visiting Iran ...... 

    England..................Pakistan..............Iran by bus
    Canada...................Pakistan................Iran by bus
    US of A.....................Pakistan.................Iran by bus

    It doesn't matter where you get down in Pakistan .. you can travel to Gwadar International Airport.. and take a bus.. or jump on to a truck ....beautiful area to travel...

    I hope Prime minister Khan takes a note of that route...and makes better arrangements for travelers

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #45 - January 09, 2020, 01:54 PM

    https://time.com/5761206/iran-plane-crash/      ...Plane Crash site  video...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh1ghsPplhQ

    well plane crash site gives  a tell tale sign of how the plane went down..

    Quote
    It is unclear what caused the plane to crash minutes after the aircraft took off from Tehran. Initial explanations from both Ukraine and Iran contradict one another. Iranian officials have said the Boeing 737-800 crashed due to mechanical issues.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjqqUhmhRWc

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #46 - January 09, 2020, 02:33 PM

    WHO DO YOU THINK SHOT DOWN THAT PLANE WITH FULL OF INTERNATIONAL PASSENGERS BY ACCIDENT dear zeca??


    The scenario put forward by the army officer above looks perfectly clear to me. Given the threat of war, which isn’t something new, the Iranian military must be prepared for air attacks on Tehran, with anti-aircraft missiles ready for action. It looks like someone expecting an American reprisal raid for the missile attacks on Iraqi bases made a terrible mistake and shot down an early morning civilian flight thinking it was a US missile, plane or drone.

    Of course there may be another explanation but for now that sounds likely.
  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #47 - January 09, 2020, 03:16 PM

    The scenario put forward by the army officer above looks perfectly clear to me. Given the threat of war, which isn’t something new, the Iranian military must be prepared for air attacks on Tehran, with anti-aircraft missiles ready for action.

    which Army officers put forward that theory? Iranian??

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    It looks like someone expecting an American reprisal raid for the missile attacks on Iraqi bases made a terrible mistake and shot down an early morning civilian flight thinking it was a US missile, plane or drone.

    WHO IS THAT SOME ONE? IRANIAN AIR FORCE?  the flight left Tehran airport  just four minutes ago before it was shot down.. it takes another three minute to  fly in to skies.. So the rogues shot it down with in 7mts of it took off..

    Such sloppy countries and their armies who do not coordinate the flight leaving their own airport  do not need air force and atomic weapons .. IDIOTS .. and if it is not related to Iranian govt ., then Iran is in a much worse shape with respect  to their military power and its coordination with their  Private mullah militias...

    Quote
    Of course there may be another explanation but for now that sounds likely.

    Many who left Iran after questioning  that Mullah hero Islam in 80s left the country.. unfortunately their children and relatives become  victims of such government policies as they are interested to learn their parents pas/culture ,,..  It happened against war with Saddam Hussein.. and it is happening now...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #48 - January 09, 2020, 04:31 PM

    which Army officers put forward that theory? Iranian??


    British, as I stated above.

    WHO IS THAT SOME ONE? IRANIAN AIR FORCE?


    I don’t know whether anti-aircraft defences would be operated by the air force, the army or some other group.

  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #49 - January 09, 2020, 05:33 PM

    IranWire on the deaths at the funeral: https://iranwire.com/en/features/6594
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    A few hours after the deadly stampede, one of the injured told IRNA that the incident occurred when security guards prevented people from crossing a section of Shariati Avenue. According to him, people rushed toward the avenue, but many of them lost their balance and fell to the ground when security guards blocked their access, leading to the deaths and injuries.

    “If side streets had been open, the density of the crowd would have been lower but security personnel were adamant that people must return to the main street and that is why this tragedy happened,” he said. A number of other injured people confirmed this assessment.

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    There was a broad wave of criticisms on social media about the mismanagement of the funeral procession. Many asked why the organizers had failed to take the necessary precautions.

    Mehdi Ali Ghanbarlou, a Mehr News Agency photographer, had warned the responsible officials of the potential danger, publishing photographs of the location of the ceremonies six hours before it was due to start. Ghanbarlou wrote that he was leaving the area so that he would not have to take photographs of the victims.

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     Reply #50 - January 09, 2020, 06:03 PM

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/09/tehran-crash-plane-downed-by-iranian-missile-western-officials-believe
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    The Ukrainian passenger jet that crashed shortly after takeoff from Tehran on Wednesday was accidentally shot down by an Iranian anti-aircraft missile, western security officials believe.

    UK sources told the Guardian that British officials had seen intelligence that suggested that the plane was hit by an Iranian air defence missile.

    Western intelligence agencies are understood to have picked up signals of the missile launch, followed by the traces of an explosion. A British source said: “The assessment is that it looks like it is a tragic accident.” One report suggested that two missiles were involved, but this could not immediately be confirmed.

    Separately, officials told US media they had identified the signature from an Iranian anti-aircraft missile battery being activated shortly before the aircraft crashed into countryside south-west of the Iranian capital, killing all on 176 on board. The officials also said they had identified the infrared signature from two suspected missile launches followed shortly afterwards by the infrared blip from the burning and fatally disabled aircraft.


    Thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/ksadjadpour/status/1215326505913462787
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    A totally irresponsible and preventable tragedy. Airplanes should have been grounded or warned prior to Iran's rocket attacks. In avenging the death of one Iranian official, Tehran may have caused the death of 176 innocent people, many of whom were Iranian


    Thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/nedasoc/status/1215059054378278913
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    The number of young, brilliant, hopeful Iranians who were returning to their studies in Canada represent an unfathomable loss to Canadian higher education, arts, science & the world. And as a faculty member in Canada & Iranian American I am honestly just destroyed.

  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #51 - January 09, 2020, 07:32 PM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1215335543464235008
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    More and more reports from people with access to the crash site that the wreckage has been bulldozed into a pile, making a truly forensic investigation next to impossible.

  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #52 - January 09, 2020, 08:30 PM

    Justin Trudeau press conference: https://mobile.twitter.com/HadiNili/status/1215362312921546754
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=Ra5b7Nd4BBs&time_continue=10
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     Reply #53 - January 09, 2020, 10:10 PM

    Trudeau says evidence indicates Iranian missile brought down Ukrainian flight
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     Reply #54 - January 09, 2020, 10:13 PM

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=Hn_9TM_uaGg
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     Reply #55 - January 09, 2020, 10:34 PM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/HadiNili/status/1215384425703378953
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    CPJ statement on Iran Pres advisor, Hesamoddin Ashna, who just tweeted a “warning” to Iranian journalists around the world for what he describes as “joining the psycho war related to the Ukrainian plane, and cooperating with anti-Iran ppl”, aka covering updates on #PS752 crash.


  • Is Iran/Persia going to burn again & go back to 1979??
     Reply #56 - January 09, 2020, 10:38 PM

    CBC News: Flight 752 A Canadian Tragedy

    https://mobile.twitter.com/CBCNews/status/1215060678177746945
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     Reply #57 - January 09, 2020, 10:40 PM

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    well one need not be rocket scientists to figure that out ., more important question is who did it and was it deliberate to harass and harm those Iranians who question the Mullah regime all the time ...





    why would a missile go backward ,  towards Tehran airport  on to a flight path  if they fired missiles at  American bases in Iraq  towards Erblil and  Al-Asad airbase??

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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     Reply #58 - January 09, 2020, 10:49 PM

    Yeez - the Ukrainian plane was brought down by a surface to air missile. That’s a missile used for anti-aircraft defence and nothing to to with the long range missiles fired at Iraqi bases a couple of hours before. I see no real doubt that it was a mistake.
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     Reply #59 - January 09, 2020, 10:53 PM

    Yeez - the Ukrainian plane was brought down by a surface to air missile. That’s a missile used for anti-aircraft defence and nothing to to with the long range missiles fired at Iraqi bases a couple of hours before.

    that is a good point..  that means they fired Surface-to-air missiles ..  imagining  some American fighter jets attacking Iran.,  how many Anti-aircraft defense missiles did they fire??

    ONLY ONE??

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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