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  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #90 - November 07, 2019, 04:25 PM

    New Political Map of Kashmir and Narendra Modi's next move @Third Opinion with Hamid Bashani

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MWaTVvHL30

    https://twitter.com/barristerbashan?lang=en

    that is Barrister Hamid Bashani, who hails from Rawalakot in Pakistan occupied Kashmir now lives in Canada

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  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #91 - November 15, 2019, 09:18 AM

    UNDOING KASHMIR AUTONOMY IS UNLAWFUL  by Liaquat Ali Khan
     

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    In the first week of August 2019, the Indian Parliament passed, and the President signed legislation to remove Articles 370 and 35A of the India Constitution. Article 370 preserves the autonomy of Jammu and Kashmir (J&K), a princely state that has been forcibly divided up between India and Pakistan. Article 35A empowers the J&K State to determine its permanent residents.

    The constitutionality of the legislation revoking Articles 370 and 35A has been challenged in the India Supreme Court.

    By revoking Articles 370 and 35A, India has seemingly abandoned the notion of J&K state as a special territory deserving autonomy. However, as discussed below, the revocation complicates matters more than it resolves. The revocation does little to lawfully change the autonomy of the State or alter the territorial dispute between India and Pakistan. Unfortunately, the revocation will foment domestic unrest and possibly an armed conflict between nuclear rivals, India and Pakistan.

    THE KASHMIR DISPUTE

    The Kashmir dispute surfaced soon after the 1947 partition of British India when the Hindu ruler of the J&K princely state acceded to India without consent of the predominantly Muslim population. Within a year of the partition, Pakistani tribesmen invaded and captured a substantial portion of the J&K state, which remains under the Pakistan control.

    India moved the U.N. Security Council, which, acting under Chapter VI of the UN Charter, passed a resolution proposing several measures, including “the withdrawal of tribesmen,” and the holding of “a free and impartial plebiscite” for determining “the question of the accession.”

    Pakistan declined to give up its portion of the J&K state.  India declined to hold a plebiscite. Since then, the J&K state has remained divided between India and Pakistan.

    In 1952, in view of the deadlock between India and Pakistan, India turned inward and entered into an agreement with the J&K state, known as the Dehli Agreement. The Agreement reaffirms “that sovereignty in all matters other than those specified in the Instrument of Accession continues to reside in the State.”  The Agreement also recognizes the State’s authority to define the rights and privileges for its permanent residents.

    In order to give effect to the Dehli Agreement, Articles 370 and 35A were enacted and placed in the India Constitution. This constitutional enactment brought peace between India and the J&K state.

    Internationally, however, India and Pakistan continued to claim the entire J&K state but made little headway to resolve the dispute. Under the 1972 Simla Agreement, India and Pakistan made a commitment to resolve the Kashmir dispute through bilateral negotiations.

    In addition to the accession duality, a third option has also developed, which argues for the sovereign independence of the J&K state, free from both India and Pakistan.

    Far from offering a solution, the revocation of Articles 370 and 35A deepens the conflict even further since the Muslims of Kashmir, and the radicalized youth will protest the denial of autonomy. Pakistan will come under its own domestic pressure to “do something” while the Indian troops mistreat the people of Kashmir.

    THE J&K CONSTITUTION
    The question remains whether the revocation of Articles 370 and 35A can lawfully change the autonomy of the State. In 1956, the J&K Constituent Assembly drafted a constitution for the State, reaffirming its own special status in the Union of India. The State constitution has incorporated the provisions of Articles 370 and 35A to preserve its own autonomy.

    Part III (Sections 6-10) of the constitution lays out the qualifications, rights, and privileges of the “permanent residents” of the State. The residence provisions preserve the J&K demographics and prevent the influx of people from other parts of India. They also limit who could lawfully vote in local elections, and own property.

    The State constitution allows the J&K legislature to redefine and regulate permanent residents. However, any change in the definition, rights, and privileges of the permanent residents requires “not less than two-thirds” of the “total membership” of each House of the State bicameral legislature.

    Given that the people of the State do not support the revocation of Articles 370 and 35A, and given the local resistance to Indian troops, it is unlikely that the State legislature would expand the definition of permanent residents to permit immigrants from other parts of India. The “two-thirds” requirement poses a stiff barrier to any alteration of Part III of the State constitution.

    This raises the question of whether the federal parliament can revoke the State constitution. There appears to be no such authority available under the India Constitution.

    Furthermore, the territorial dispute between India and Pakistan over the J&K state has also been enshrined in the State constitution. Section 3 proclaims that the State of Jammu and Kashmir “is and shall be an integral part of the Union of India.” However, Section 4 defines the territory of the State as “all the territories which on the fifteenth day of August, 1947, were under the sovereignty or suzerainty of the Ruler of the State.“  Since a substantial portion of the pre-1947 State is now under Pakistan control, the territorial dispute between India and Pakistan remains a lingering question under the State constitution.

    SPECIAL STATUS
    The India Constitution recognizes the special status of several states within the Union. In addition to the J&K state, for example, Article 371A recognizes the “religious and social practices of the Nagas,” and protects the State of Nagaland’s “land and its resources” from the reach of federal legislation. Article 371G offers similar protections to the State of Mizoram.

    As noted above, Articles 370 and 35A limit the power of the federal legislature to make laws for the J&K state. The federal legislature can make laws only with respect “to matters specified in the Instrument of Accession,” such as defense, external affairs, and communications (posts and telephones, etc.). On other matters, the Instrument of Accession retains the sovereignty of the State. This limit on federal powers forges the special status of the State.

    Thus, Articles 370 and 35A are a federal commitment to safeguarding the terms of the Accession Instrument and the Dehli Agreement. By revoking these Articles, the federal government violates the terms of the Accession Instrument and the Dehli Agreement. The revocation takes away the sovereignty of the State that the Instrument and the Agreement confer on the State.

    Furthermore, Section 147 of the J&K constitution prohibits the State legislature from “changing the provisions of the constitution of India as applicable in relation to the State.”  Section 147 is a reference to Articles 370 and 35A, the only constitutional provisions of the India Constitution applicable to the State.

    In view of the Accession Instrument and the Dehli Agreement, the India Supreme Court may rule that the federal government has no authority to revoke Articles 370 and 35A. The Court will most likely hold that the federal government cannot unilaterally amend or repeal any or all the provisions of the J&K constitution, without the consent of the State legislature.

    CONCLUSION
    Domestically, the revocation of Articles 370 and 35A does not alter the J&K autonomy protected under the Accession Instrument, the Dehli Agreement, and the State constitution. Internationally, the 1948 UN Security Council Resolutions and the 1972 Simla Agreement recognize the territorial dispute between India and Pakistan as an international dispute that cannot be unilaterally resolved but must be settled through a fair and impartial plebiscite or through some other bilateral agreement. Unfortunately, the heavily guarded border dividing the State, known as the line of control, continues to trigger skirmishes and threatens a possible all-out war with or without the use of nuclear weapons.


    that is  from Liaquat Ali Khan  and do not confuse this Liaquat Ali Khan with   that with Nawabzada Liaquat Ali Khan (Næʍābzādāh Liāqat Alī Khān   1 October 1895 – 16 October 1951), widely known as Quaid-e-Millat, the (Leader of the Nation  and Shaheed-e-Millat was one of the leading founding fathers of Pakistan,  who  was assassinated On 16 October 1951, in  Rawalpindi,,

    This Liaquat Ali Khan   is the Founder, Legal Scholar Academy Emeritus Professor of Law..

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    Liaquat Ali Khan  initially trained as a civil engineer. He later switched to law, obtaining a law degree from Punjab University, Lahore. In 1976, Khan immigrated to the United States and studied law at New York University School of Law where he received his LL.M. and J.S.D. Khan is a member of the New York Bar and Kansas Bar. Since 1983, Khan has been teaching law at Washburn University School of Law in Topeka, Kansas. In 2014, Khan founded Legal Scholar Academy to provide impact analysis of U.S. foreign policy pertaining to Muslim nations and communities. Listen to Khan's commentaries on iTunes, Daily Motion, and YouTube. Khan has authored several books, including The Extinction of Nation-States (1996), A Theory of Universal Democracy (2003), A Theory of International Terrorism (2006), and Contemporary Ijtihad: Limits and Controversies (2011). Over the years, he has written numerous law review articles and essays on Islamic law, international law, commercial law, creative writing, legal humor, jurisprudence, the U.S. Constitution, comparative constitutional law, human rights, and foreign policy. His academic writings are used as parts of course materials in universities across the world. Khan has devoted much of his academic scholarship to Islamic law and conflicts involving Muslim communities. Khan has participated in Islamic law symposia held at the law schools of Samford University, the University of St. Thomas, Barry University, Michigan State University, and Brigham Young University—contributing ground-breaking articles on Islamic jurisprudence. In addition to law articles and academic books, Khan also writes for the popular press in the United States, the Middle East, and the Indian subcontinent. His legal and foreign affairs commentaries are published worldwide and international media, including BBC, Press TV, NPR, and leading newspapers, seek his comments on world events. Khan's writings are cited in various Wikipedia entries, including Sharia, Islamic democracy, nation-state, definitions of terrorism, and manual labor.Khan was a resident legal scholar with the Organization of Islamic Cooperation in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

    http://washburnlaw.edu/profiles/faculty/activity/_fulltext/khan-ali-ghunghru.pdf


     wonderful Bio.. and I did not know him until today...

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  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #92 - November 16, 2019, 11:02 AM

    Kashmir: Labour shifts policy after backlash by Indian-heritage voters

    Thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/a_leesha1/status/1195345738630336513
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    Profoundly disappointing for the Kashmiri diaspora in Britain that Labour have done this. When the human rights of Kashmiris are being systematically violated & Genocide Watch have released an alert, Labour cannot remain silent. It's an international issue

  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #93 - November 16, 2019, 12:29 PM

    taking notes from netanyahu on foreign lobbying as well as armed occupation.

    Quote from:
    Indian politics is casting a shadow over our general election. Overseas Friends of the BJP (the party of India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi) have reportedly identified 48 Labour-Tory marginals in which the organisation would campaign for a Conservative vote because of Labour criticism of events in Kashmir.

    Just this week, Labour issued a statement clarifying that it would “not take a pro-Indian or pro-Pakistan stance on Kashmir,” in a bid to pacify Indian organisations that had attacked the party over its conference resolution on the crisis in the region. Actually, Labour had not taken a “pro-Indian or pro-Pakistan stance” by expressing concern at the Indian government’s behaviour, but the concession showed that Modi’s supporters in this country pack a punch.


    https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/how-indias-prime-minister-came-interfere-britains-election
  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #94 - November 16, 2019, 07:46 PM

    Pakistan lauds US commission for becoming voice of Kashmiris 'brutally silenced by India'  says Dawn News

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    The Foreign Office (FO) on Saturday welcomed the hearing of of the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission of the United States Congress on the situation in occupied Jammu and Kashmir, where people are facing movement and communications restrictions for more than 100 days.

    "Pakistan welcomes the public hearing on human rights in occupied Jammu and Kashmir by the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission of the US Congress, held on November 14 at Washington DC," read a statement issued today.

    According to the statement, the deliberations of the commission reinforced internationally recognised disputed nature of the Jammu and Kashmir issue and highlighted gross human rights violations and the humanitarian crisis in occupied Jammu and Kashmir.

    "A call for an independent fact-finding mission to occupied Kashmir was made and the right of self-determination of Kashmiri people was also duly underscored during the Commission’s proceedings," it added...

    well that is the news and read more at the link..  may be it is good watch whole thing..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=DPSDc_X3GYM

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    TomLantosHumanRights
     
    Please join the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission for a hearing to examine the human rights situation in the former state of Jammu and Kashmir in India in historical and national context.


    well that is two an half hr tube... may be i should watch bits and pieces

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    Announcement
    Please join the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission for a hearing to examine the human rights situation in the former state of Jammu and Kashmir in India in historical and national context.

    The Indian government’s decision to change the legal status of the Muslim-majority state of Jammu and Kashmir, announced in August and effective as of October 31, 2019, has attracted intense attention due to persistent reports of human rights violations, including a crackdown on freedom of expression; the arbitrary “preventive” detention of hundreds of politicians, lawyers, journalists, and other civil society figures and related fears of enforced disappearance; and the use of excessive force against protesters. The increased militarization of the security presence in the region and the economic and social consequences of the central government’s actions, including continuing restrictions on internet and phones, have also provoked widespread concern. In addition, militants have targeted migrant workers from outsider Kashmir, and have threatened businesses to maintain a protest shutdown.

    But although India’s decision was sudden, the situation in Jammu and Kashmir has been of concern for years. Its territory is divided by a military “Line of Control,” with Pakistan holding about one-third and rejecting India’s claim over most of the remainder. China also claims some of the land. In 2018 the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) documented human rights violations in both India- and Pakistan-administered Kashmir and issued recommendations on a wide range of issues including civilian killings, deaths during security operations, blanket restrictions on journalists and independent observers, misuse of anti-terrorism legislation, and protection of religious minorities. A follow-up OHCHR report in July 2019 found little improvement and reiterated the “urgent need to address past and ongoing human rights violations and to deliver justice for all people in Kashmir.” Nor are the human rights problems limited to the Kashmir region. Patterns of human rights violations have been documented at the national level in India and Pakistan, including by the U.S. Department of State in the annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices.

    Witnesses will examine the human rights situation in Jammu and Kashmir in the context of the region’s history and larger patterns of rights violations in India and Pakistan, and will offer recommendations for action by Congress.

    The hearing will be open to Members of Congress, congressional staff, the interested public, and the media. The hearing will be livestreamed via the Commission website and will also be available for viewing on Channel 55 of the House Digital Channel service. For any questions, please contact Kimberly Stanton at 202-225-3599 (for Co-Chair McGovern) or Piero Tozzi at 202-225-3765 (for Co-Chair Smith).   

    Hosted by:
    James P. McGovern
    Member of Congress
    Co-Chair, TLHRCChristopher H. Smith
    Member of Congress
    Co-Chair, TLHRC
    Witnesses

    Opening Remarks
    Rep. James P. McGovern, Co-Chair, TLHRC

    Written remarks
    Rep. David N. Cicilline, Member, TLHRC

    Written remarks
    Letter to Ambassador Harsh Vardhan Shringla (October 24, 2019)
    Panel I

    Anurima Bhargava, Commissioner, U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom
    Written testimony

    Panel II

    Haley Duschinski, Associate Professor of Anthropology and Director of the Center for Law, Justice and Culture, Ohio University

    Sehla Ashai, Human rights lawyer

    Yousra Fazili, Human rights lawyer and Kashmiri-American cousin of Mubeen Shah, detained Kashmiri businessman

    Arjun S. Sethi, Human rights lawyer and Adjunct Professor, Georgetown Law

    Sunanda Vashisht, Writer, political commentator, and Kashmiri Hindu who identifies as a victim of ethnic cleansing

    John Sifton, Asia Advocacy Director, Human Rights Watch
    Written testimony

    https://humanrightscommission.house.gov/sites/humanrightscommission.house.gov/files/documents/Bios%20sheet_Kashmir.pdf



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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #95 - November 17, 2019, 02:48 PM

    it is worth watching an old Q&A Session With General Mussharaf On ISIS And Taliban  and whole lot of other subjects  specially on Kashmir

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBA4gGFjbb8

    that was 10 years ago...  well lot of water went down the river Sindh since 2009  but India and Pakistan relations are exactly at the same level what they were before ., Now after what Indian Government did in Kashmir  that is breaking Kashmir in to  three regions (Now it is only two  Jammu Kashmir and Laddak )  I guess they will make it three states out of that land ..

    here is the old map 1947



    Now the map of Kashmir



    well we have to wait and see for the year 2020

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #96 - November 17, 2019, 02:55 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AavZUiAApc4

    and that was Benazir ..Benazir ...Benazir.. well None of us and none of them could really CRACK THE PROBLEM OF PAKISTAN & INDIA ..

    it is not because of people in these countries ,,, IT IS BECAUSE OF FAITHS.. FAITH BASED POLITICS..   that video was a year f before  her assassination. Her loss for terror was the  Greatest  loss in the  history of Pakistan.. more than Pakistan break up as Bangladesh and Pakistan

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #97 - November 19, 2019, 01:00 PM

    looks like this chap is involved in kashmir court cases and the twitter platform is complying with indian state demands.

    Quote from:
    A large number of Indian Twitter users are signing up on a rival social media platform called Mastodon in solidarity with the “illegal suspension” of Supreme Court lawyer Sanjay Hegde’s account over a couple of posts.


    https://theprint.in/tech/mastodon-the-social-networking-site-indians-angry-with-twitter-are-moving-to/317771/
  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #98 - December 10, 2019, 01:53 PM

    https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI

    well Khan Saheb says

    Quote
    https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1204226495251722241

    On international Human Rights Day Muslims need to remember that the message of equality,  justice & protection of human rights for all was given more than 1400 yrs ago by our Prophet PBUH. This embodied the cardinal principles of respect for human rights & human dignity.


    Quote
    Human Rights Day: PM urges global community to act against India's 'illegal annexation' of IOK

    In his message on global Human Rights Day, marked on December 10, Prime Minister Imran Khan appealed to the international community to act against the "illegal annexation" of occupied Kashmir by the Indian government.

    "On Human Rights Day, we must appeal to the world's conscience, to upholders of international law [and] to the UNSC to act against the illegal annexation of IOJK by the Indian occupation government," he said in a tweet on Tuesday morning.

    The premier condemned the Indian government's "siege" of over four months and demanded an end to the "gross abuse and atrocities being inflicted on Kashmiri men, women and children by Indian occupation forces in violation of all international humanitarian and human rights laws".

    "We salute and stand resolutely with the brave Kashmiris struggling for their right of self-determination," he added.

    well that is the Kashmir news..

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  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #99 - December 11, 2019, 02:13 PM

    A draconian law From Indian Government

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    UNDER Narendra Modi’s watch, there is little doubt that the country is being transformed into a Hindu rashtra, where minority communities are relegated to the margins of society, if accepted at all. For with the passage of the Citizenship Amendment Bill by the Lok Sabha on Tuesday, the BJP-led government in New Delhi has sent another signal — loud and clear — that Muslims are not welcome in Modi’s India.

    Quote
    Under the law, which still has to pass through India’s upper house, non-Muslims from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh will be able to acquire Indian citizenship more easily.


    Hindu nationalist supporters of the controversial bill have said the law will allow minorities ‘persecuted’ in these countries to find refuge in India. However, this move is hardly inspired by humanitarian concerns and smacks of Islamophobia and communalism.

    The BJP seems very concerned about non-Muslim communities in South Asia, yet it is doing all it can to make the lives of Indian Muslims miserable.

    This is only the latest in a series of moves the Indian government — now firmly carrying out the agenda of the Sangh Parivar — has made to marginalise and exclude Muslims from mainstream India.

    The government has stood by as barbarians have hunted down and lynched Muslims suspected of transporting or eating beef; the annulment of India-held Kashmir’s special status is also part of this sinister agenda.

    Moreover, a new ‘citizenship register’, under which people have to prove their antecedents, and already being enforced in Assam, may be used to cancel the citizenship of Indian Muslims if the BJP has its way.

    Many sections of Indian society have criticised these moves, particularly the new citizenship bill, for contravening India’s supposedly secular character.

    However the BJP, power drunk and with the support of far-right Hindu groups, knows that it can bulldoze these laws through parliament in the hope of achieving its dream of a Hindu India.

    For India’s Muslims, these are troubling times.

    People whose roots lie in India and who have lived in that land for centuries may now be declared aliens if the shock troops of Hindutva have their way.

    With these ominous moves, the BJP is paving the way for making millions of Indian Muslims stateless — outsiders in their own land.

    It seems the RSS ideologues that are running India, who are huge fans of Israel and whose ideological forefathers were smitten by Europe’s 20th-century fascists, are now employing the ‘best practices’ of both influences to do away with India’s Muslims.

    These condemnable actions should be noted by countries around the world.

    There have always been forces in India struggling to remove the veneer of secularism that previous dispensations there sought to promote. With the BJP’s rise to power, it seems that the communal beast has been set free

    and that is published in today's dawn Editorial .. If that is the law of Indian Government which says   
    Quote
    Under the law, which still has to pass through India’s upper house, non-Muslims from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh will be able to acquire Indian citizenship more easily.

    then I have to agree with the editorial..  THERE ARE PLENTY OF PERSECUTED FOLKS WHO HAPPENED TO BE MUSLIMS in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh .. and I say  such Muslim folks should have equal opportunity to get immigration in to India as minorities of these countries ., The rule is yet to be passed by their parliament but  I hope sensible Indians oppose such rules of their government..

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #100 - December 15, 2019, 07:53 PM

    Thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/libcomorg/status/1206296839953231873
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    Mass protests happening in India, centred around universities, against the new citizenship law. Meeting heavy repression from police with tear (and possibly worse) gas and (possibly live) ammunition.

    Don't have a full picture of what's going on at all, there are videos from today going around like this, but this is happening at multiple campuses.
    ...
    For those not up to speed, the citizenship law fast tracks citizenship for non-Muslims from neighbouring countries. The NRC in Assam (being implemented now) is making millions of people stateless near the border with Bangladesh.

  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #101 - December 15, 2019, 08:59 PM

    Video: https://mobile.twitter.com/ndtv/status/1206207229134692352
    Quote
    NDTV speaks to students being marched out with hands held up outside Jamia Millia Islamia university in #Delhi.

  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #102 - December 16, 2019, 09:00 AM

    Thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/PriyamvadaGopal/status/1206453234992181248
    Quote
    Updating British/European journalist friends as you wake up. Indian state security forces have entered historically Muslim university campuses (Indian law forbids police entering campuses without VC permission) to visit shocking violence on students protesting #CAB2019.

    I'll post relevant links through the day.

  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #103 - January 04, 2020, 05:43 PM

    The Crisis in Kashmir: Head-to-Head Debate at The Oxford Union

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYdc0b2E5oo

    well funny thing is ., It is debated in UK.. not in Pakistan or in India and both guys are Indians and none of them are Muslims.. and none of them are Kashmiris

    that is really funny

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  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #104 - January 04, 2020, 08:17 PM

    well funny thing is ., It is debated in UK.. not in Pakistan or in India and both guys are Indians and none of them are Muslims.. and none of them are Kashmiris


    why, should only muslims debate it? turning kashmir issue into a religious issue is why things have turned out so badly - not only for kashmir, but for both the occupying nations.
  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #105 - January 05, 2020, 02:19 PM

    Quote

    well funny thing is ., It is debated in UK.. not in Pakistan or in India and both guys are Indians and none of them are Muslims.. and none of them are Kashmiris

    that is really funny

    1). why, should only muslims debate it? 

    2). turning kashmir issue into a religious issue is why things have turned out so badly - not only for kashmir, but for both the occupying nations.


    you are assuming or reading beyond what I said dear crumble..

    1). why, should only muslims debate it? 

    Crumble., did I say only Muslims should debate such Issues? what I am pointing is ground reality ., Kashmir problem involves people,  where Muslim folks are in majority with multiple cultural backgrounds.,  So if such discussions are happening specially in England where Many many Kashmir Muslims folks live and they are connected back in India and Pakistan., It is vital to involve them in discussion panel., And you can not throw out religious and cultural role of that conflict ., if you do that it will yield meaningless conclusions.. whole discussion id meaningless.. In that video Indians and are discussing with Indians.. what is the point??

    2).. turning kashmir issue into a religious issue is why things have turned out so badly - not only for kashmir, but for both the occupying nations.

    Nonsense .. absolute nonsense.,  TAKE OUT THE REGIONS..STUPID FAITHS AND STUPID FAITH HEADS and ROGUE POLITICIANS  WHO USE FAITHS TO GET ELECTED in these modern times.,   the problem could be solved in months if not in week ..

    you seem to be living in some Utopian model dear crumble..

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  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #106 - January 05, 2020, 09:16 PM

    you can not throw out religious and cultural role of that conflict ., if you do that it will yield meaningless conclusions.. whole discussion id meaningless.. In that video Indians and are discussing with Indians.. what is the point??


    discussions do not need to have constructive conclusions - nor does the participation of all parties to a dispute guarantee a better result. I say let any person discuss the issue and without reference to their nationality, culture or religion.




  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #107 - January 27, 2020, 04:55 PM

    discussions do not need to have constructive conclusions - nor does the participation of all parties to a dispute guarantee a better result. I say let any person discuss the issue and without reference to their nationality, culture or religion.

    you are riot crumble.. and let me watch this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtF_tdXfRHM

    India Republic Day and Kashmir - News Talk with Yashfeen Jamal | 26 Jan 2020

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  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #108 - January 28, 2020, 01:56 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOH5dod5wXE

    Free Kashmir Khalistan Assam Nagaland Kerala Tamil Nadu protest in London 26 January 2020

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  • Kashmir endgame
     Reply #109 - January 30, 2020, 03:36 PM

    On the streets, India’s youth are completing the unfinished business of the freedom struggle   says news ..

    Quote
    Many supporters of the ruling regime justify legislating differentiated citizenship rights based on religious identity, and the planned National Register of Citizens, as necessary for completing the unfinished business of Partition. In spirited denial, tens of thousands of youthful, middle- and working-class peaceful protesters coursing on to the streets around the country are completing the unfinished business of the freedom struggle and healing the wounds of Partition.

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    The Hindutva right believes that Partition will be complete only with the transfer of Muslim Indians to Pakistan and Bangladesh, and of the Hindus from these nations to India. They see Hindus as persecuted and trapped in the Muslim-majority countries in our neighbourhood, as well as in Muslim-majority Kashmir.

    They demonise Indian Muslims as a security threat to India, as violent, disloyal, intolerant — and misogynist and reproductively irresponsible. They never acknowledge the daily discrimination that Indian Muslims wrestle with.


    The freedom struggle, on the other hand, was founded on the idea of equal rights of Muslims, and acknowledgment of their immense contributions to the making of India, to India’s social, cultural and economic life, and to the struggle for independence. This tradition, and the resolve to build a diverse, egalitarian and humanist nation, was first imperilled by the catastrophic ruptures of Partition.

    It was the moral lodestar of Mahatma Gandhi in the final months of his life which steadied India and steered it back in the direction of the values of the freedom struggle, aided by leaders like Nehru, Maulana Azad and Ambedkar....

     well read more at the link...

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     Reply #110 - February 01, 2020, 10:45 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T1YicfyAQM

    Barrister Hamid Bashani - India Revokes Article 370 in Jammu & Kashmir.  that is very interesting discussion and it parallels Israeli/Palestinian problem 


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ptTXPSAcc

       Najam Sethi Show on  India annexation of  Kashmir

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DwcIjHcSSE

    Tahir Gora on Kashmir after Article 370 Abolition 

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     Reply #111 - February 04, 2020, 04:53 PM

    Mishal Malik Speech | Missiion Kashmir | SAMAA TV | 04 February 2020

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9yMVAatIvU

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     Reply #112 - February 05, 2020, 11:16 AM

    Modi’s annexation of IOK will lead to its independence: Says Premier PM Imran

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    Prime Minister Imran Khan on Wednesday said Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s annexation of occupied Kashmir would eventually lead to its independence.

    The prime minister was addressing a special session of the Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK) Legislative Assembly as the nation observed Kashmir Solidarity Day on Wednesday.

    The premier said he believed occupied Kashmir would achieve independence as a result of the action Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi had taken in the region on August 5, 2019.

    "If he had not taken that step, we could not have said anything to the world," the premier said, adding that prior to the events of August 2019, no one was paying attention to Indian atrocities in the valley.

    "On that day Modi made a fatal mistake, one that he could not step back from," the prime minister said.

    "Hopefully Kashmir will now move towards independence," Prime Minister Imran said. "Our job now is to inform the world about what is happening in the valley on all forums," he added.

    "They [India] cannot continue in this manner any longer. They have detained eight million people in an open jail."

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    The prime minister warned that India's situation will continue to deteriorate with time.

    "In desperation, Modi said that he will defeat Pakistan in 11 days. The head of a country, giving such a statement when both countries in question are nuclear powers, cannot be normal.

    "His [Modi's] only aim is to please his Hindutva base. The last refuge of every scoundrel is patriotism. They hide behind nationalism and then make such claims," Imran said. "Worried people make such statements, and they are now worried."


    He urged the world to not play into India's trap, predicting that they will either use terrorism as an excuse or conduct a false-flag operation to inflict more torture on the people of occupied Kashmir.

    "They would have proceeded to do so had we not raised the issued in front of the whole world. They have stated that they wish to change the region's demography, from a Muslim-majority to a Muslim-minority.

    "We should not give them any chance. This is a political, and a diplomatic fight as well as in the media. And for the first time since the 60s, international media is presenting Pakistan’s stance," he added.

    Commenting on "Islamic terrorism", Imran said: "Religion and terrorism are not linked. Since 9/11, Muslims have been persecuted due to Islamic terrorism. Therefore, we have to be very careful about what their game plan is."

    He added that the Kashmir issue now had to be taken to the "next level". Imran acknowledged that the issue "drifted" after it was raised at the UN General Assembly, at a time when it was at its peak, due to the "storm that was headed to Islamabad".

    However, the issue has now entered the world's political arenas, Imran said. "We will inform them of what is going on in the occupied valley." The premier ended his address by reiterating that Modi's actions will lead to freedom for occupied Kashmir.

    US mediation will benefit India: AJK premier

     that is what Premier  Says...   Well it is same all over.. Islamic Politicians are doing that for a looong time  what Indian Modi is doing now in India., In fact Imran you yourself is doing that after you  entered politics but once you become Prime minister ..you realized the problems with heroes of Islam

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiD8QzcXq2o

    You yourself Insult Jewish folks the way you talk in public  that too your own sons being born to a Jewish lady., YOU SEEM NOT TO UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM IN ISLAM AND ISLAMIC BOOKS AND ISLAMIC PREACHERS.. specially hadith and even in Quran..

    So keep low ., otherwise  you make problems to the present Pakistan itself by your hyperactive public speaking .. BOMB IS NOT GOING HELP US ANYMORE in 21st century

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     Reply #113 - February 06, 2020, 07:09 PM

    AJK Prime Minister  Raja Farooq Haider  Speech at Azad Kashmir Legislative Assembly Session.  Feb 5, 2020

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTiqyxGwX-0


    PM Azad Kashmir Raja Farooq Haider Hard Speech On Kashmir Issue  Aug 14, 2019

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7nkGXhuJS0

    PM Azad Kashmir Farooq Haider's emotional speech, attendees burst into tears  18 Sep 2019

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g5NkjLMYu0

    I don’t believe in Imran Khan’s Pakistan - AJK PM Raja Farooq    Jul 31, 2017

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY41BvM3AR0

    That fellow is speaking since he was kid .. The same thing..the same politics  and what all he wants is some 5 to 10 million dollars from Pakistan..  I never understood what he is trying to say..

    But he can write few Urdu poems and sing some bolywood songs  And he is Raja Farooq Haider Khan (Urdu: فاروق حیدر خان‎ راجہ) is a Pakistani politician who is the 12th and current Prime Minister of Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK). He belongs to the Pakistan Muslim League (N) (PML-N). Raja Muhammad Farooq Haider Khan born on 14 January 1955 in Muzaffarabad in Rajput Family. He received his school education from Abbottabad Public School (APS). After intermediate from APS, he completed the graduation from Government College Lahore. He has served as the Pakistan Muslim League (N)'s regional president of AJK. Following the 2016 Azad Kashmiri general election in which PML-N gained a majority bagging 31 seats in the 49 seat Azad Kashmir Legislative Assembly, Haider was nominated as the Prime Minister of AJK. On 31 July 2016,

    Incidentally He and Prime minster Khan are of the same age group born in the same year ., I say remove that guy from that SELECTED PRIME MINISTER POSITION & Select  Mishaal Malik  as Prime minster of AJK

    Mishaal Malik Speech in Lahore  SAMAA TV 05 February 2020

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc94lyHM6rM

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     Reply #114 - February 07, 2020, 07:47 PM

    Kashmir: India uses 'draconian' law to extend house arrest of former chief ministers  Says BBC News

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    Two former chief ministers of Indian-administered Kashmir have had their house arrest extended under a controversial detention law. Mehbooba Mufti and Omar Abdullah have been detained since 5 August when the Indian government stripped Kashmir of its partial autonomy.

    The controversial Public Safety Act (PSA) allows detention without charge for up to two years. The two leaders were set to be released on Thursday.

    They have not been heard from since they were placed under house arrest. Ms Mufti's daughter, who is operating her Twitter account, hit out at the "autocratic" move.


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    https://twitter.com/MehboobaMufti/status/1225457107530477568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1225457107530477568&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fworld-asia-india-51410380

    Ms Mufti received a PSA order sometime back.Slapping the draconian PSA on 2 ex J&K CMs is expected from an autocratic regime that books 9 year olds for ‘seditious remarks’. Question is how much longer will we act as bystanders as they desecrate what this nation stands for?


    well that is the news from Kashmir
     

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     Reply #115 - February 21, 2020, 03:38 PM

    Shah Mehmood Qureshi Exclusive | Nadeem Malik Live | SAMAA TV | 19 February 2020

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=batu9h-_8sY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV-dRSspJww

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjB02ALXd_Y

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     Reply #116 - February 22, 2020, 09:54 AM

    PM Imran Khan’s Exclusive Interview with VRT News (Belgium), 21 02 2020

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gJYiDS4BRI


    I am wondering about the  interviewer., 


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     Reply #117 - February 22, 2020, 05:36 PM

    Indians on Kashmir...

    An Indian Official guy responds to  Mr. Graham.. the US senator...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aqFUHttthE

    And Indian college student in India..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZY6asMPuKs

     Cheesy Cheesy

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     Reply #118 - March 12, 2020, 02:16 AM

    Delhi riots: 'No-one who saw the photo thought I would survive' BBC news

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    A Reuters photo of a Muslim man being brutally beaten by a Hindu mob became the defining image of religious riots that broke out in Delhi in February.

    Mohammad Zubair survived the attack after he lost consciousness and was left for dead. However, he has serious injuries and spent days in hospital.

    He spoke to BBC Hindi's Debalin Roy about what he remembers of the attack, and why despite what happened to him, he has not lost faith in humanity.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-india-51837787/delhi-riots-no-one-who-saw-the-photo-thought-i-would-survive?intlink_from_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fworld&link_location=live-reporting-map
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51719204

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBTMmFcfUrk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLB3EIc3xQ8


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     Reply #119 - April 28, 2020, 05:30 PM

    Cannot stand by and let another Gujarat happen': Qureshi asks OIC to stop attack on Muslims in India Says Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn0HVOrzAvw

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    In a video message shared on his Twitter account, the foreign minister said that he has written a letter to secretary general of OIC, pointing to India's "campaign of Islamophobia" amid the outbreak of a lethal pandemic.  The world is fighting against coronavirus. What is required is a joint coordinated effort. Unfortunately, what we're seeing is that though this virus respects no borders, it doesn't differentiate between ethnicities or religion — yet in India [...] they're in the grip of Islamophobia...

    well watch it and read it  and in another news the Pakistan  Foreign Office (FO) says

    India taking advantage of Covid-19 crisis to push ‘Hindutva’ agenda in occupied Kashmir: FO
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    India has sought to take advantage of the world's preoccupation with the coronavirus crisis to further push its "Hindutva" agenda in Indian-occupied Kashmir including by attempting to alter the region's demography, the Foreign Office (FO) said on Tuesday.

    Referring to India's new domicile law, under which an Indian citizen who has lived in occupied Jammu and Kashmir for 15 years can call the territory their place of domicile, FO Spokesperson Aisha Farooqui said the changes "represent another opportunistic move by the RSS-BJP dispensation to advance their sinister aim of effecting a demographic change in the occupied territory".

    "Pakistan and the Kashmiris have firmly rejected these Indian machinations in the past and will continue to do so in the future," she added in a statement.


    well that is today's news   on  the border problems from our  Foreign Minister ..  but  let me watch  Husain Haqqani Former   Pakistan Ambassador to US of A

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qezdk-uEhm8

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