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Reply #30 - February 17, 2020, 10:09 PM

Quote from: crumble on February 15, 2020, 01:35 AM
unfortunately, those random fields insist on defining a relative state of existence, ie most people need a point of reference for their meaningless/meaningful lives.

both everyone and no-one is a muslim. you need to follow incoherent rules to arrive at a more precise answer.

.............yes..yes.............
their meaningful and their meaningless lives
.indeed every one is Muslim and no one is Muslim
.............And it goes to all Muslims.............

I love it when posts run through poetic words dear crumble so let me rewrite that "surah crumble" for you some time today... I have to write that surah crumble because I have a problem with heritage .. Muslim heritage.. it is a serious problem for those who come from Indian subcontinent with that tag... What is Musim heritage is a very serious question., hence I must write it carefully the.......... "Surah crumble"...........

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https://www.globalvillagespace.com/turks-ruled-subcontinent-in-an-attempt-to-mock-imran-khan-journalist-got-trolled/

https://twitter.com/baqirsajjad/status/1228350750344065029?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1228373573695352832

url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.globalvillagespace.com%2Fturks-ruled-subcontinent-in-an-attempt-to-mock-imran-khan-journalist-got-trolled%2F

https://twitter.com/sherryrehman/status/1228611324751568898

well heritage problems Muslim heritage problems are there right from the beginning of Islam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyzKVS8b_yg

well what do I have., Arab heritage? turkish heritage ., Iranian Shia heritage?? Mongolian genghis khan / tamer lane heritage

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the beloved betrayed me and turned in to a Muslim
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Reply #31 - February 21, 2020, 12:46 AM

Quote from: yeezevee on February 17, 2020, 10:09 PM
I have to write that surah crumble because I have a problem with heritage .. Muslim heritage.. it is a serious problem for those who come from Indian subcontinent with that tag...

Replace the dead of the subcontinent with the dead of the cosmos. If your heritage is star dust then it puts things into perspective. Should there be a god who lights the firmament, he will be least concerned with petty tribes of men.
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Reply #32 - February 21, 2020, 03:31 PM

Quote from: crumble on February 21, 2020, 12:46 AM
Replace the ~~dead of~~ the subcontinent with ~~the dead of~~ the cosmos.

that sounds better.. so let me watch this and then talk my heritage.. is it star dust??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwFfzwIfgZo

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If your heritage is star dust then it puts things into perspective.

No.. no.. nah MY HERITAGE IS NOT STAR DUST .. at the best my physical body is from star dust no ones heritage is star dust dear crumble. And what is there in stupid star., it is just silly gas.... it is all gas

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Should there be a god who lights the firmament, he will be least concerned with petty tribes of men.

what god.. ?? ...no nah.....there is no god..... sorry.. if it is there, it is in stars.. and I know what is there in stars.. it is all gas...god is gas......just gas..

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Reply #33 - February 21, 2020, 06:52 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on February 21, 2020, 03:31 PM
what god.. ?? ...no nah.....~~there is no god~~..... sorry.. if it is there, it is in stars.. and I know what is there in stars.. it is all gas...god is gas......just gas..

no god is easy but no heritage is not? I wonder about atheists... what does it really mean to not believe?
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Reply #34 - February 22, 2020, 01:03 PM

Quote from: crumble on February 21, 2020, 06:52 PM
no god is easy but no heritage is not? ~~I wonder about atheists... what does it really mean to not believe?~~

hello crumble....

Noooooooooooo....no ... nope., you don't need to worry about atheist guys and girls... they are pretty much open minded and you will have full freedom to question them and their views on any subject., If some one who calls himself/herself as atheist and does not allow you to question their views means THEY ARE NOT ATHEISTS ., more over Atheism only deals with absence of god.. specially the god of myesteryears ...i mean this 2 or 3 thousand year old heeeeeeeeeeeee gooood.. the dick in the human brain....

Now I am sure you know that there is a huge difference between the word "god" and the other words "heritage" or "culture" of a person or cultural back ground of a person... Cultural background or heritage or whatever is the word you call is evolved and evolving ..unlike this god thingy...

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Reply #35 - February 22, 2020, 11:24 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on February 22, 2020, 01:03 PM
Now I am sure you know that there is a huge difference between the word "god" and the other words "heritage" or "culture" of a person or cultural back ground of a person... Cultural background or heritage or whatever is the word you call is evolved and evolving ..unlike this god thingy...

conceptions of god evolve too - religions are not as static as they claim.

and heritage/culture/etc are another form of religion - constructed from baseless beliefs and and arbitrary values. where's the huge difference?
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Reply #36 - February 24, 2020, 11:20 AM

Quote from: crumble on February 22, 2020, 11:24 PM
conceptions of god evolve too - religions are not as static as they claim.

Concept of god does seem to evolve in VERY RECENT TIMES AT AN INDIVIDUAL LEVEL not with the groups that are following their religions/scriptures through their respective preachers

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~~and heritage/culture/etc are another form of religion - constructed from baseless beliefs and and arbitrary values.~~

that is NOT true., those values are/were NOT arbitrary., they have been told/enforced by the leaders of the society on given society at a given time what they thought was better to their society ,,

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where's the huge difference?

well we can talk about the differences as a book.. there are plenty .. but let me give a pic dear crumble..

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Reply #37 - February 24, 2020, 12:15 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on February 24, 2020, 11:20 AM
~~that is NOT true., those values are/were NOT arbitrary.~~, they have been told/enforced by the leaders of the society on given society at a given time what they thought was better to their society ,,
well we can talk about the differences as a book.. there are plenty ..

artificial differences, they are part of the same thing, whether you call it culture or religion or something else. humans constructing random rules as they go along

anyway, I think my point was: muslims and ex-muslims aren't that much different from each other. faith heads and faithless heads argue over truths that do not exist.
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Reply #38 - February 24, 2020, 02:26 PM

Quote from: crumble on February 24, 2020, 12:15 PM
artificial differences, they are part of the same thing, whether you call it culture or religion or something else. humans constructing random rules as they go along

anyway, I think my point was: muslims and ex-muslims aren't that much different from each other. faith heads and faithless heads argue over truths that do not exist.

yap... you are riot crumble... you are right ...........no differences .. may be little differences in the life DNA.. everything is same............. . muslims............. ex-muslims ..non-muslims.. baboons.... cats............ rats.............. dogs ..............

All are same .........All are life..

Everyone of us .. All our bodies have 3 billion genetic building blocks, or base pairs, that make us who we are. well on that note let me add some pointers here
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1). Humans — Out those 3 billion base pairs or so., our genetics that show differences between the people come from difference in our DNA base pair combinations something on the order of 0.1 to 0.005 per cent ., otherwise genetically we are all same or similar to the next human being on the planet earth.

2). Chimpanzees — our closest living evolutionary relatives — are 96 per cent genetically similar to humans.

3). Mice — they are 85 per cent similar to humans. And for non-coding genes, it is only about 50 per cent. And this cane be attributed to a shared ancestor about 80 million years ago.

4). Cattle — they share about 80 per cent of their genes with humans,

5). Chicken — Egg-laying and feathered body such as Chicken genes have ~60 per cent commonality with a human genome..

and Even bananas share about 60 per cent of the same DNA as humans.

So you are right dear crumble.. they are facts and I can not disagree on your words of ..
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these are all artificial differences, they are part of the same thing

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Reply #39 - February 24, 2020, 08:44 PM

I see a lot of baboons these days. It almost makes you want to lose all hope in people.
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Reply #40 - June 26, 2021, 07:05 PM

Quote from: crumble on September 30, 2019, 08:54 PM
turns out saj speaks punjabi like a china-man - how authentic as well as prescient!

mister heritage is back thanks to a hancock up -,I look forward to saj telling pesky ethnics to get vaccinated in his best westminster-potohari accent :-)

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1408861731741392897
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