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  • Converts to Zoroastrianism in Kurdistan
     OP - March 04, 2017, 07:09 PM

    http://www.rudaw.net/mobile/english/kurdistan/050220171
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    The Zoroastrian representation in the Kurdistan Region has filed a legal complaint against a Kurdish Islamic preacher whom they claim has issued a decree that all converts to the pre-Islamic faith must be killed if they did not repent within days.

    “We filed a lawsuit against Mala Hasib, the [Islamic] preacher at Mala Rasul mosque, before the public prosecutor’s office today,” said Awat Hussamaddin Tayib, the representative of the Zoroastrians at the Kurdistan Region’s ministry of religious affairs, “He has given a three-day deadline to all the Zoroastrians,” she claimed.

    “He says ‘if they [the Zoroastrians] do not return to Islam’, which he described as the religion of our ancestors, while our ancestral religion is Zoroastrianism [then] they have to be killed as he issued against all the Zoroastrians,” Tayib explained.

    Mala Hasib, the Islamic preacher in question, made the remarks in an interview with the BBC Persian late last month when asked about the fact that some Kurdish youths are converting to either Zoroastrianism or Christianity from Islam, in light of the ongoing war against ISIS.

    Hasib told the program that while ISIS is practicing some elements of  Islam, it does not represent the religion because it lacks wisdom, and that they believe in the use of force for every matter.

    “Daesh does not have wisdom in its actions. This is very dangerous and harmful for Islam,” he said.

    Then he was asked about issue of converting to other religions.

    “Tens and hundreds of Kurdish Muslims have [converted] to Zoroastrianism or Christianity. What do you think in this respect?” the BBC journalist asked Hasib.

    “Under an Islamic authority, the verdict is that they would be given three days to reconsider,” Hasib said, “if they repented and abandoned the new religion, it is ok. But if they did not return from Zoroastrianism, or any religion other than Islam, they are apostates and have to be killed. Their punishment is death penalty.“

    The Kurdish region has passed a law to protect the rights of the different ethnic and religious groups in 2015, including Zoroastrianism, under which followers of the religion have the right to declare their religion, practice the rituals, and found their places of worship.

    “That is why we have been practicing our rituals ever since. We have not posed a threat against anyone,” Tayyib said in reference to the law passed by the Kurdish parliament.

    The law does not address the issue of converting from one religion to another, as claimed by Tayyib in a press conference in Sulaimani after she and several others filed the complaint.

    However, there are no reported cases of anyone being tried in Kurdish courts for changing their religion.

    Tayyib told Rudaw English that the complaint comes after Hasib made the remarks on BBC Persian, but she also claimed that he had made similar remarks elsewhere, including at the mosque he is preaching at, and a Kurdish newspaper.

    Rudaw English contacted Hasib to comment. He said he will not talk to the media for now, as he is preparing to “respond with evidence” to the claims made against him. He denied meanwhile having talked to the Kurdish media on this regard, as claimed by Tayyib.

    Tayyib said that Hasib’s remarks were against tolerance and coexistence in Kurdistan, and claimed that the Kurdish ministry of religious affairs “have been saddened” with such remarks from the Islamic preacher.

    She called for him to be removed from preaching in the mosque, issue an apology, and to be punished.

    She claimed that Hasib is a member of the Islamic League (Komal), a claim that Rudaw was not immediately able to verify.

    She said Komal, in particular the head of the human rights committee Soran Omar, who is from Komal, must come out and condemn Hasib’s remarks publicly if they want to show that they are against such a position as that taken by Hasib.

    Omar has not issued any explanation on the claims: whether or not Hasib is a member of the party, that he made remarks against the laws, or whether or not the party upholds or condemns Hasib’s stance.

    Zoroastrianism is an ancient pre-Islamic religion with many people still practicing the faith in Iran and India.

    The Zoroastrians in the Kurdistan Region opened their first official temple last September, hoping that it will provide the right environment to “reintroduce” Kurds to their ancestral religion, Tayyib told Rudaw English then.

    She said then that she was fearful that the ongoing war against ISIS may create an environment of fear for her fellow believers.

    Tayyib, who was living in Europe until four years ago, is the representative of the Zoroastrians at the Kurdistan Region’s ministry of religious affairs. She assumed the position after Zoroastrians received official recognition in 2015.

    Komal party and Soran Omar could not be reached for comments.

  • Converts to Zoroastrianism in Kurdistan
     Reply #1 - March 05, 2017, 03:10 AM

    I can't believe they chose the name Komal, with such a different orientation. Like Komala and Komaleh wasn't enough.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Converts to Zoroastrianism in Kurdistan
     Reply #2 - March 05, 2017, 01:36 PM

    Ironic. Claiming IS requires the use of force for it acts than invoking Islamic Authority for his own judgement which must be carried out using.... force.
  • Converts to Zoroastrianism in Kurdistan
     Reply #3 - March 06, 2017, 12:57 AM

    I've been reading Abdolhossein Zarinkoob, translated just a few months back by Avid Kamgar as "Two Centuries of Silence". It seems to be a recurrent theme in the Kurdestan: they get fed up with being raped and robbed by foreigners in the name of Islam, and react, and when they react they react HARD.

    Zarinkoob has a soft spot for heretics like Babak. The Yezidis are very probably descended from someone like that.
  • Converts to Zoroastrianism in Kurdistan
     Reply #4 - March 06, 2017, 09:20 AM

    ^I had to look up Zarinkoob and Two Centuries of Silence: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Centuries_of_Silence
  • Converts to Zoroastrianism in Kurdistan
     Reply #5 - March 07, 2017, 11:32 PM

    Mala Hasib believes Isis lacks wisdom, and that they use force for every matter.

    Mala Hasib believes that people should be killed for not returning to islam.

    this is crying out for a skit.


  • Converts to Zoroastrianism in Kurdistan
     Reply #6 - March 14, 2017, 10:51 AM

    Fortunately, I don't think the Kurds are going to stand for this kind of shit any longer.
  • Converts to Zoroastrianism in Kurdistan
     Reply #7 - April 05, 2018, 06:18 PM

    Quote from: Edith Szanto
    Disgusted with ISIS, some Kurds turned away from Islam following the fall of Mosul in 2014. Many became atheists, while others sought comfort in Zoroastrianism. Zoroastrianism, according to converts, was the “original” religion of the Kurds before they embraced Islam. In 2015, two Zoroastrian centers opened in Sulaimani, both of which are recognized by the Kurdish Regional Government in northern Iraq. Notably, neither has tried to recreate Zoroastrianism the way it is currently and has been historically practiced in Iran and South Asia. Instead, they have created their own versions of Zoroastrianism, which is nationalist, postmodern, and liberal. Kurdish Zoroastrians argue that the reason Kurds are “backward” is Islam. They seek to rectify the present situation through a Kurdish “authenticated” and “original” form of Zoroastrianism. Drawing on ethnographic fieldwork at these two centers, the present article examines this new religious movement in Sulaimani, an important city in the Kurdish region of northern Iraq. It analyses the rise and distinctiveness of Kurdish Zoroastrianism looking at how Zoroastrian Kurds articulate their views on Islam, women’s rights, human rights, and Kurdish independence.

    Read the article: https://www.academia.edu/36188583/_Zoroaster_was_a_Kurd_Neo-Zoroastrianism_among_the_Iraqi_Kurds
  • Converts to Zoroastrianism in Kurdistan
     Reply #8 - April 12, 2018, 03:46 AM

    I have never heard it called Sulaimani before. Always it was Sulaimanya. Or Sulaimaniya. But this is fascinating and scary at the same time. I have been waiting for more Kurds to be fed up with how things are working out in Kurdistan and ditch the nationalism but I suppose it's hard to reach such a place under bombardment. A new domestic religion is not going to move them past it, but good for them for crafting something of their own.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
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