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  • Muslim heritage?
     OP - June 02, 2019, 10:53 PM

    I saw Sajid Javid making his play for PM on a politics show today. The interviewer referred to his muslim heritage for some reason at one point.

    I'm not sure what the intended messaging was? He used to be a muslim but feels better now? Is there much support for a pseudo ex-muslims within the tory party? Why be so coy about his background?
  • Muslim heritage?
     Reply #1 - June 16, 2019, 12:59 PM

    This campaign video is basically about hard-working immigrants and their children. Is that the same group of people he appears to treat as 2nd class citizens and arbitrarily banishes to their countries of origin? Vote #TeamSaj

    https://mobile.twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1138357421183852545
  • Muslim heritage?
     Reply #2 - June 16, 2019, 11:36 PM

    This campaign video is basically about hard-working immigrants and their children. Is that the same group of people he appears to treat as 2nd class citizens and arbitrarily banishes to their countries of origin? Vote #TeamSaj

    https://mobile.twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1138357421183852545


    well dear crumble.. that is not true... yes being son of an immigrant  parents with responsibility and in politics he may sound harsh on some Government immigration policies .,   but  people like Javid has double problems being a son of immigrant parents...  ,He will feel lot more pressure and more responsible for well being of his country as well as his parents.. culture/religion whatever ....  So clash bound to happen., It is same / similar to  a Muslim kid criticizing Islam and his own Muslim father' Islam consequently his community faith .....   

    that video is OK but what he wrote above is foolish

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    I got into politics because I wanted to give back to our country, which has given me so many opportunities. I'm proud to be able to share my story with you. Check out my campaign video and join me at

    THAT IS NONSENSE ..  you can give back to your country without being a politician  .. and millions of folks have done that...

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Muslim heritage?
     Reply #3 - June 17, 2019, 12:30 AM

    The pressure to fit in with an anti-immigration party by undermining citizen rights based on ethnicity? I've never felt the need to be the biggest racist in the room just to fit in or improve my career prospects. Nor do I cite my skin colour or cultural/religious heritage as some kind of credential or mitigation - that would be pretty hypocritical for a coconut whether in or outside politics.
  • Muslim heritage?
     Reply #4 - June 17, 2019, 02:17 AM

    The pressure to fit in with an anti-immigration party by undermining citizen rights based on ethnicity? I've never felt the need to be the biggest racist in the room just to fit in or improve my career prospects.

    Well  he may be a Muslim... He may be racist he may  be everything you accuse but he is British born citizen and he has the right to choose any political party he likes  .. Moreover he is CONTESTING elections and wining UNLIKE LORDS & BARONS of UK SELECTED politicians such as these

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgMRiA9dZQs

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    Nor do I cite my skin colour or cultural/religious heritage as some kind of credential or mitigation - that would be pretty hypocritical for a coconut whether in or outside politics.

    well he is a politician  and to get elected by public he has every right to use all tricks within laws permitted in UK and that may include his color/religion/connections with Pakistani/Indian community etc..etc..

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Muslim heritage?
     Reply #5 - June 17, 2019, 07:53 AM

    He doesn't identify as a muslim - remember, he interchangeably cites his muslim or pakistani heritage despite having left both far behind.
  • Muslim heritage?
     Reply #6 - June 17, 2019, 10:29 AM

    1. He doesn't identify as a muslim -

    2.   remember, he interchangeably cites his muslim or pakistani heritage despite having left both far behind.


    both of your statements points out  to  what i said..
    .......................... he is a politician  and to get elected by public he is using  use all tricks within laws permitted in UK and that may include his color/religion/connections with Pakistani/Indian community etc..etc..


    now  your 1st point 1. He doesn't identify as a muslim -

    that is for getting non-Muslim votes

    and your 2nd point..... 2.   remember, he interchangeably cites his muslim or pakistani heritage despite having left both far behind.............

    that is for getting votes of folk that have muslim or pakistani heritage

    Now crumble  what is your opinion on this today's news...

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    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Muslim heritage?
     Reply #7 - June 17, 2019, 12:20 PM

    I don't seem to have a quote button...

    His not being muslim is primary. Advertising the fact is secondary. Otherwise we agree.

    Comments on the dawn article point at either anti-islam or anti-ptm tweets as the reason for the killing. Either way, freedom of speech is particularly dangerous in countries like pakistan - best to post anonymously until law and order situation improves.
  • Muslim heritage?
     Reply #8 - June 17, 2019, 01:02 PM

    well  it really  doest not matter to me whether Sajid Javid gets elected or not in England ..  but your response on Muhammad Bilal Khan  murder
    .....................Comments on the dawn article point at either anti-islam or anti-ptm tweets as the reason for the killing. Either way, freedom of speech is particularly dangerous in countries like pakistan - best to post anonymously until law and order situation improves.

    tells me you  know very little about that Pashtun  and  political Islam around his  blogs, tweets and videos....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdqXUFs9v9I

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W0FXw0I7s4

    and you can watch other videos of him below...

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Muhammad+Bilal+Khan

    but yous heading of this topic  "Muslim heritage"   is interesting...

    Now I wonder what  actually do you men by "Muslim Heritage "Huh?

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Muslim heritage?
     Reply #9 - June 17, 2019, 06:01 PM

    I didn't read his tweets or blog as not in english. Naturally, I don't claim to know anything beyond what's written on the quoted article.

    Would ask you to provide a summary and your own comments rather than links to youtube videos. I only have a basic working knowledge of urdu but sounds like he's telling off the maulvi for saying pathans breed like rabbits and increase criminality wherever they are, ie in karachi. None of that seems controversial enough to lead to his murder so I'm guessing the other video contains more answers but it's too long for casual viewing.

    As I see it, "heritage muslim" is just a euphemism for non-muslim with muslim parents.



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