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  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #60 - January 01, 2018, 06:23 PM

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42535292

    Then again only Allah knows what will happen. Most High and Sweet is He.
  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #61 - January 01, 2018, 08:26 PM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KafirFajirFasiq/status/947924610875568129
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    People are asking
    "Who is giving these orders? Who are making these decisions? Who are behind this?"

    My answer:
    Pro-Protest pages. Telegram and other social media allow for a somewhat democratic platform. The pages are by the people for the people to the people.


    Thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/SanamF24/status/947891378247340037
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    Young Iranian who was active during the 2009 so-called Green Movement tells me it’s not our crowd this time around. These are lower income protesters. They have nothing to lose. We don’t share the same grievances. We don’t necessarily feel good about them either

  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #62 - January 01, 2018, 08:56 PM

    Iran analysis: old grievances spark new protests
  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #63 - January 01, 2018, 09:48 PM

    Reflections on the growing anti-regime protests in Iran
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    The protests that started in the city of Mashhad on Thursday  December 28  have quickly spread to more than 40 cities including Tehran,  Kermanshah, Rasht,  Isfahan, Shiraz, Hamedan, Kerman,  Zanjan,  Ahvaz, Bandar Abbas,  and even the  city of Qum, Iran’s religious capital.    The participants are mostly young people under 30 but in some cases have included parents with their children.   So far, at least 5 people have been killed in Lorestan and over 50 people have been arrested by heavily present security forces.  Some government buildings and banks were set on fire by the protesters and pictures of Khamenei and Khomeini have been burned.

    In comparison to the mass protests that arose in 2009 after the fraudulent presidential election, these protests are different in several important  respects:  1. They directly oppose poverty and  systemic corruption.  2.  They include the wide participation of the working class  (men and women), many unemployed. .  3.  Demands include an end to the Islamic Republic,  Death to Supreme Leader Khamenei, Death to president Rouhani,  Death to the “Revolutionary Guards” and an end to Iran’s military intervention in Syria and Lebanon.   4. In some cases,  individual women have bravely taken off their headscarves or veils  in public places and have encouraged others to follow them.

    No one can deny that these protests are arising after at least a year of almost daily labor actions and strikes against non-payment of wages and terrible working conditions, as well as protests by impoverished retirees, teachers, nurses and those who have lost their meager savings in bankrupt banks.    Slogans have also called for freedom for all political prisoners and an end to dictatorship.

    At the same time, there is no doubt that there is a strong nationalist tone to some of the slogans such as “Neither Gaza, Nor Lebanon,  I sacrifice my life for Iran”  or a monarchist influence expressed in slogans which support the legacy of Reza Shah Pahlavi.

    Some Iranians believe that the protests might have been started by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps to consolidate its power, given the infighting within the regime and the threat of a direct war between Iran and Saudi Arabia.   Others believe that monarchists and the Mujahedin Khalq, with support from the Trump administration, have had a major role in encouraging the protests.

    For those Iranians opposed to all these actors and genuinely hoping for a liberatory movement,  it is extremely important to learn from the lessons of the Syrian revolution.   If the mass movement against poverty and dictatorship limits itself simply to the overthrow of the regime without an affirmative and progressive vision,  it faces the danger of being taken over by right-wing populists or monarchists and becoming a pawn in the imperialist rivalries.

    This is a time when those Iranian socialists and Marxists who do not support authoritarian brands of socialism  can make a difference by  organizing within this movement  on the basis of opposing  Iran’s capitalist state, helping the development of  workers’ councils,  defending and promoting women’s struggles against patriarchy/ misogyny,  and speaking out against the discrimination suffered by  Iran’s ethnic and religious minorities such as Kurds and Bahais.

    Deepening the content of the current protest movement is the best way to challenge and oppose imperialist war drives by the U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia, Russia, China, Iran, Turkey, and to express solidarity with other progressives in the region and around the globe who demand social justice.

    Frieda Afary
    December 31, 2017

  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #64 - January 02, 2018, 12:13 AM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/h0d3r/status/947913888829493254
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    A few key facts about protesters in #iran that I've gathered so far:
    - Mostly male
    - Mostly under 25
    - No respect for Green Movement and its leaders
    - Many slogans in favour of Pahlavist Monarchy

    This is how I interpret this:
    - Hardliners' systematic undermining of reformists media, political parties, civil society, and reference groups has produced a clueless, anomic, depoliticised youth, with little knowledge or interest in history.

    - This is more about social freedoms than economic welfare.
    - State media has totally failed to reach, let alone influence, millennials.
    - Pahlavist London-based Manoto TV has succeeded in creating an 'alternative reality' about Shah's era with emphasis on social liberties.

    - Strict policing of streets and cyberspace to enforce Islamic laws on dresscode, parties, alcohol, etc. has backlashed in deep hatred for both Islam, clerics, and regime.
    - An ageing ruling class is seen as power-thirsty, archaic, and out of touch with reality.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/maasalan/status/947939877915709442
    Quote
    Also, fascinating. Talking to a few Iranians following the protests from their homes through the Pahlavi Telegram channel. Getting info on what’s happening around their corner from a channel posting about Iran from the US


    Thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/h0d3r/status/947631896065904640
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    It's been a while since moderates in #Iran have been sandwiched between Trump and Iranian hardliners' shared plots. Trump ultimately wants regime-change. Hardliners want the next presidency and ultimately to success Ay. Khamenei. Thus they tacitly assist each other.

  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #65 - January 02, 2018, 12:23 AM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/GissouNia/status/947767271375519744
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    Another day has passed and I'm still seeing the discussion online about how no one knows any of the protestors in 2017 (now 2018) or can locate any of them when they knew protestors in 2009. Some reflections on why this could be the case

    Some ppl are strongly hinting (or outright suggesting) that this is b/c hardliner / external forces are organizing this and the crowds are hired guns. Unless all the videos coming out of Iran are fake that seems unlikely (and I can personally vouch the protests in Rasht are real)

    The far more plausible explanation is that most of the folks making those comments are Tehran centric and deal in certain socio-economic circles and therefore just don't have access. That includes media inside the country.

    Not everything revolves around Tehran and the middle / upper class. Just like in the US, where media came to be dominated by folks who graduated from Ivy League institutions and were from urban centers there is a similar context when it comes to analysis / media reporting on Iran

    I spent 6 yrs documenting the treatment of marginalized communities in Iran, whether those groupings were based on ethnicity (Kurds, Arabs, Baluch, Lors), religion (Bahais, Christian converts) or socio-economic factors (alleged drug traffickers subject to the death penalty)

    For me, as for many other human rights advocates who work on Iran, reporting on the treatment of ethnic minorities living on the margins, and the targeting of the poor, was an obvious topic b/c they are often the target of state-sanctioned abuses

    Through the work I came to realize just how disconnected the experience of many of these people was from anything happening in the capital, and the narrative of life in Iran that was broadcast to the outside world

    In fact, when I was doing this work, ppl automatically assumed I must be from the group whose plight I was documenting (wait, you're Kurd right? or, oh I thought you were Afghan). the reasoning for this is that they wondered why I would otherwise care

    Some journalists would ask why this was my focus & would express reluctance to cover it as they didn't think it related to most Iranians' concerns. Perhaps, but Iran is the sum of all its parts & the concerns of all these communities, in the aggregate, are not insignificant

    One common sentiment I heard around the time of the nuclear deal was, that's not the priority right now, we don't want Iran to turn into Iraq or Syria, we can deal with human rights later, plus "these are the demands of a few fringe groups"

    Well now we see why we can't leave human rights for later. Because it will combine w/ other grievances into a perfect storm that boils over like it is right now if the chants at the protests are anything to go by.

    As Kurdish activists told me when I interviewed them a few yrs ago, the broader public finally understood the brutality of the IRI after June 2009, even if they had been spared before, but the Kurdish region has always known what arrests & executions are, it's their daily reality

    In response to them not being represented as they should in mainstream media whether inside or outside of Iran, Kurds and Arabs and other marginalized groups have created their own independent media sources, to get the news out about the events that impact their communities

    I'm not as familiar w/ the politics of all the other regions on the protest map (there are a lot) but many of the spots are outside of Tehran, off the beaten path & suffering due to the corruption of their central govt which has often shortchanged them politically or monetarily

    So if you're from Tehran & your network of contacts is from Tehran, or other big cities, it's not surprising that you don't know friends, family or others protesting. That's not a sign that protests are manufactured. More likely, it just means your contacts don't extend there

    The roughest analogy I can provide is the shock some Americans felt when they learned that Trump was their newly elected president. They wouldn't have been shocked if they'd spent time in other parts of the US in the lead up to the election.

    Similarly, a lot of folks not typically centered in the discussions around Iran are tired and now just visibly showing it. There have always been protests in the provinces, from Rafsanjani's term & on. Digital tools just connect the dots in a way that didn't happen before.

    Ask the people who work on labor union rights or others who work on health issues in different communities in Iran. They'll probably have some answers.

  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #66 - January 02, 2018, 12:53 AM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KafirFajirFasiq/status/947963587817103360
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    I'll share some information I got about the protests tomorrow. For now I'll allow myself a break, I will chat up with some friends who are in Iran, read a book and drink my god damn chai.

    But there are some things which I think to be necessary to share now:
    • The protesters aren't armed.
    • There are no protesters' militias.
    • MEK news about Maryam posters is bs.
    • 99% of destruction by protesters is of state property.
    • Most of the destruction by basij/police is of private property.
    • A lot more protesters were shot, beaten, tased, killed and detained on January 1st than on December 31st.
    • Protesters' focus is heading from burning banners/kiosks to police stations and militia bases.
    • The demonstrations grew both in numbers of people and in numbers of different locations.
    • Women and elder people participate everywhere during the day, but only at big protests during the evening/night.
    • Many protesters detained by shady figures in backstreets.
    • Some seem to think that the USA is a genie and its president gets unlimited wishes to shape the world. That would make a nice entertainment movie, but this is not how the world works. Things are complex, there are details and often things have multiple causes.

  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #67 - January 02, 2018, 01:05 AM

    Maryam Namazie responds to Boris Johnson: https://mobile.twitter.com/MaryamNamazie/status/947983932770877440
  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #68 - January 02, 2018, 09:43 AM

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G22Bvg-OmRA&feature=youtu.be
  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #69 - January 02, 2018, 09:48 AM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KenRoth/status/947874581863452679
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    When will Iranian hardliners learn: killing protesters won't quell their profound discontent about their imposed religious autocracy.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MaryamNamazie/status/948000018740514816
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    It's not just the hardliners; the "reformists" are just as responsible. When will "human rights" groups stop excusing the "reformist" faction of the regime that wants no real reform or change and always lines up behind Khamenei when push comes to shove?

  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #70 - January 02, 2018, 09:59 AM

    Thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/alihashem_tv/status/947974851129683969
    Quote
    Thread on #IranProtests
    1- Five days after the first spark, it’s obvious that while protest are spreading, they’re becoming more violent and this could be seen in the videos shared on social media. In accordance, the government is still caught by surprise
    ...
    11- This is to say, some of what the reformist wanted to get in 2009 in the streets, they succeeded in getting it through the polls. Part of the reform camp regards itself once again as part of the regime, and this prompts them to distance themselves from the events
    ...

  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #71 - January 02, 2018, 10:03 AM

    Interview with editor from a Kurdish news agency: https://anfenglish.com/kurdistan/what-do-the-people-in-iran-want-why-do-the-protest-23970
  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #72 - January 02, 2018, 01:02 PM

    13 killed as Iran sees worst day of unrest  says news




    Quote
    TEHRAN: A policeman was shot dead as fresh protests broke out in Iran on Monday while the authorities moved to crack down on days of unrest across the country.

    There was a heavy police presence in Tehran as small groups of protesters ran through the capital shouting anti-government slogans

    It followed the deadliest night yet on Sunday when 13 people died in violence.....


    and  Iran’s Khamenei says ‘enemies’ swaying protests using money, weapons

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #73 - January 02, 2018, 04:03 PM

    https://iranwire.com/en/features/5069
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    The protests that started on Thursday 28 in Mashhad have since spread to Nishapur, Rasht, Sari, the holy city of Qom, Isfahan, Bandar Abbas, Ahvaz and close to 20 cities and provincial capitals across Iran. Since 2009 and the disputed presidential election of that year, December 30 has been marked by pro-regime rallies against protesters who challenged the official results of the election that secured a second term for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. But this year pro-government rallies were overshadowed by anti-government protests.

    Police and anti-riot units lined up the streets to confront the demonstrators with water cannons, batons, Tasers and tear gas. According to the latest official reports, more than 10 people have lost their lives.

    On Saturday, December 30, protests in the capital started at Tehran University and shortly afterward,  protesters were confronted with anti-riot police. Once again tear gas filled the streets of Tehran and other cities. The voices of protesters have be heard from towns and cities that have seldom been in the news, if at all.

    Ammar Maleki is an assistant professor in comparative politics at Tilburg University in the Netherlands. “Even if the demonstrations were started by the conservatives to damage Rouhani’s government,” he says, “it is no longer under their control. What we are witnessing today goes far beyond its starting point.”

    There are many who believe that the original protests were the work of conservatives who dominate Mashhad, one of the holiest towns in Shia Islam. The city is considered the powerbase of Ebrahim Raeesi, the ultra-conservative candidate who ran against Hassan Rouhani in the 2017 presidential election and lost. Raeesi is the custodian of Astan Qods Razavi, the largest religious endowment in Iran, and the son-in-law of Ayatollah Khamenei’s representative in Mashhad, Ahmad Alamolhoda.

    But Ammar Maleki believes that the 2015 elections for the Assembly of Experts — a body with the power to appoint or dismiss the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic — showed signs of popular discontent that observers missed at the time. “It was announced that 62 percent of eligible voters cast their ballots in that election,” says Maleki, “but 10 percent of voters [in Mashhad} cast invalid votes and this must be considered a kind of protest. So we cannot say with absolute certainty that the city of Mashhad and the province are Raeesi’s undisputed powerbase and all people there are his supporters.”

    He holds a similar view about Qom, the base of Shia clergy in the country that is often called “Iran’s Vatican.”

    During the protests in Qom, demonstrators shouted slogans condemning the rule of mullahs and praising the former monarchy.

    “We would be ignoring real demands of various sectors of the population if we say that the protests were just the handiwork of the conservatives,” he says. “We can see signs of protests even if we simply analyze the voting patterns in the elections.” Maleki points out that in the election for the Assembly of Experts in Qom, 20 percent of voters cast invalid or protest ballots. “We can see the results today as protesters there are chanting extremely radical slogans,” he says.

    Maleki believes that the reformists have been unhappy with recent protests because the slogans have been different from those of the Green Movement, which grew out of protests against the official results of the 2009 presidential election.

    “The Green Movement emerged from an election, from inside the system itself,” says Maleki. “Even until recently, whenever there were protests and demonstrations, one the most important slogans was in support of Mir Hossein Mousavi [the reformist presidential candidate who has been under house arrest for years] and this slogan was welcomed by the reformists. Even if a few “Death to the dictator!” slogans were chanted, the reformists could connect the slogans in support of Mousavi to their own voter base.”

    But Maleki says the recent protest chants are different. “You cannot hear any of the reformists’ favorite slogans,” he says. “Instead, what is chanted are radical slogans like ‘Neither Gaza, nor Lebanon; my life for Iran,’ or ‘Independence, freedom, Iranian Republic.’ These slogans are aimed at both the system itself and at the Supreme Leader. Taken together, they show that the nature of people’s protests and demands have changed radically.”

    Maleki says this means the reformists have not put their support behind the protests. “The reformists not only have given no support to the protests, they have even condemned them or consider them a conspiracy by their conservative rivals. Of course, the usual practice of the Islamic Republic has always been to accuse protesters of being enemies of the regime, like the People’s Mojahedin Organization or the monarchists.”

    Over the last few days some statesmen, such as First Vice President Eshagh Jahangiri and Mahmoud Sadeghi, a vocal reformist member of the parliament, have declared that people have a right to peaceful demonstrations. And some officials have asked the Interior Ministry to issue permits for protest rallies — if, of course, the demonstrators ask for them. But Ammar Maleki dismisses this alleged support for protest rights as mere pleasantries. “Unfortunately,” he says, “we can see that a government that was associated with reformists and moderates has now joined the conservatives and the authoritarians. With its promises, it was expected that this government would show some empathy with the people and recognize their rights based on its own Charter of Citizen’s rights. But Rouhani’s government has proven that it is not honest and in most cases it has acted contrary to its promises.”

    In the last few days analysts have criticized the nationwide protests for lacking leadership and a clear strategy. “It is true that the protests lack leadership, that it is not quite clear what people exactly want and that it might lead to anarchy,” Maleki says. “But what we see today is an expression of silenced and dormant voices of people who were not allowed to express themselves. Revolutions in Arab countries were also protests without leadership, even though, for instance, in Tunisia and Egypt there were entities that tried to organize people. In many cases in autocratic countries, when social and protest movements take shape, leaders emerge from within the movement and the demands gradually become more specific.”

    In previous elections, says Maleki, those who wanted change but felt no loyalty or attachment to the Islamic Republic and its factions, have not been allowed to field candidates or put forward their demands. “The record of reformists and moderates in power has shown that they either cannot or would not represent or pursue demands by a large section of Iranian society. This is why a structural change is needed,” Maleki says.

    He believes that even if the current protests are suppressed, people’s demands will persist and emerge again in the coming years. “If real and structural reforms do not take place, this kind of nationwide protests will eventually challenge the system,” he says. “We cannot predict that these protests would lead to fundamental changes or the downfall of the regime because the regime might suppress them forcefully. But what is certain is that these nationwide protests are a significant historical event in the life of the Islamic Republic.”

  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #74 - January 02, 2018, 04:14 PM

    https://medium.com/mosquito-ridge/bullet-points-on-the-iranian-revolt-16bfd91ec1e1
    Quote from: Paul Mason
    Bullet points on the Iranian revolt
    …on the basis of limited evidence and sparse independent journalism for now

    1. There is a split in the ruling elite. The masses know the Rouhani wing can’t crack down without strenghening its hardline enemies. Numerous statements and briefings from 2009/Green movement reformists show they are not enthusiastic about the revolt

    2. The economic deal the elite made with the masses on the basis of the JCPOA/BARJAM in 2015 is not working; there’s not enough foreign investment and …

    3. …the continued subventions to (a) foreign wars (b) the Islamist institutions (c ) corrupt IRGC-run businesses are draining the dynamism of theocratic capitalism to the extent that it can’t even deliver to its own mass base.

    4. The people on the streets are from the youth, the lower middle class and the working class, and not mainly the salaried upper middle class. I cannot discern, at this distance, the extent of secular, liberal, participation but the diaspora seems split, with some supportive but some 2009-era reformers hostile to the idea of independent mass participation (ie with no clear political faction to support).

    5. The slogans moved quickly from economic discontent to calls for the overthrow of the regime. The demos spread without any clear leader or programme; on the basis of all previous mass revolts in history that indictes widespread economic discontent and subcultural dislocation which the regime’s intelligence services didn’t pick up.

    6. Slogans include calls for a secular republic, end to foreign interventions and, in some cases, for restoration of the monarchy

    7. The scale of the unrest, combined with the split in the elite, looks like it’s been a restraining force on the Basij/IRGC — they know they could face popular justice. However they clearly have not yet been given orders to inflict mass slaughter

    8. Trump, Israel, Fox News and the global neocons will use any crackdown to try and end the 2015 deal, reimpose sanctions, boost the Saudi position in the Gulf. But their rhetorical support does not delegitimise the mass upsurge, nor does it mean the EU and Western democratic countries should stand back and ignore the repression.

    9. Putin, Assad, Hezbollah and all their cheerleaders in the alt-right and Stalinist left are already trying to smear the protests as pro-imperialist. The revolt shows, once again, that Stalinism is not a dead issue in the progressive movement, and that its remaining advocates want only an authoritarian “anti-imperialist” regime to support.

    10. Iran has a sizeable industrial, urban working class. Their failure to fully support the Green movement in 2009 was significant; which in turn was because the 2009 reform leaders had an inadequate social/economic programme, and did not look like they were serious about revolt on the scale needed to give the organised workers confidence to break from the regime. It’s not clear whether today’s (2 Jan) strike call has been successful.

    11. Two potential outcomes:
    a. another crackdown, which, after it happens, will further destabilise the factional balance inside the ruling elite but not destroy the discontent
    b. some economic and secular-tolerant reforms, no crackdown and a space opened up for a democratic and socialist opposition, including the revival of working-class base committees

    12. The global labour movement, unions, social democracy, human rights NGOs and radical left should try to support the progressive elements on the demos, strengthening them against the pro-monarchy people, providing them with communications support. That means opposing the regime crackdown, sending solidarity statements, calling for the West to refrain from hostile diplomatic intervention.

    13. The cold panic running through the Putin-Assad troll-osphere indicates they all realise a bitter truth: once one of these murdering kleptocratic states falls, they all will.

    14. It’s not a revolution, yet, but all the “experts” saying it can’t become one are wrong. No matter how limited the split in the elite is, the masses are educated and seem well informed. They are highly capable of comparing current reality to the possibility of Iran as a democratic, socially-just and relatively prosperous country, integrated on its own terms into the global order, with Mosque and state separate.

    15. The Fox News slander that the left is “not supporting” the revolt is largely unfounded. UK Labour has called for an end to the repression, while remaining non-commital about the poltical character of the demos for now. Most of the surviving far left groups in Britain have put out critical support statements, though the usual Stalinist/Assadist suspects, especially in the USA, have been all too willing to slander the revolt.

    Watch this space.

  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #75 - January 02, 2018, 04:59 PM

    Thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/ksadjadpour/status/948016272335429632
    Quote
    Thread: A few things I wanted to highlight from my recent @TheAtlantic piece on #IranProtests or was not able to include:

  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #76 - January 02, 2018, 05:31 PM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/maryamnayebyazd/status/948041648633761792
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    Some differences between the most recent protests in Iran and the ones that occurred between 2009 and 2011. Thread:

    What sparked the protests in 2009 was political. People headed to the streets to protest against the pres election results. What sparked the most recent protests was economical. It is easier for the regime to justify beating protesters for political reasons than economical.

    From 2009 to 2011 we saw several regime factions, including IRGC and Ministry of Intelligence, in the streets cracking down on protesters. So far during the most recent protests there have been no signs of the IRGC and the Ministry of Intelligence in the streets cracking down.

    2009-2011 protests mainly consisted of middle class Iranians, and most of the protests occurred in major cities. But, with the most recent protests, Iranians from both the middle and lower socioeconomic classes headed to the streets, and many protests occurred in smaller cities.

    Many chants from most recent protests calling for downfall of regime are same ones heard in 2009-2011, the reason for this is that when people are given the chance to express themselves, they'll reveal their true feelings toward the regime. But what sparked the protests matters.

    Since it was the elections that sparked the protests in 2009, the protests had some form of leadership (albeit weak leadership), from then presidential candidates Mousavi & Karroubi. And when Mousavi & Karroubi were placed under house arrest in 2011, the protests stopped.

    There are many reasons why the house arrest of Mousavi & Karroubi led to the total suppression of the protests in 2011, but I won't get into them now. What's important here is realizing that the most recent protests are completely leaderless.

    In 2009, the regime was less tolerant toward protesters, and made mass arrests quickly, torturing and killing people in prison. Ahmadinejad was president then. But with the most recent protests, it is important for Rouhani's reputation to show he is different than Ahamdinejad.

    Since Rouhani needs to differentiate himself from Ahmadinejad, he has been careful in his suppression tactics, ensuring that the regime forces do not act in the same barbaric way with detained protesters as they did in 2009.

    Since 2011, the regime has had time to hone its suppression tactics, and also paid a high price for their treatment of detained protesters. The regime is aware of the liabilities associated with cracking down on protesters, and so they are more careful this time.

    One of the main reasons why the IRGC and Ministry of Intelligence have not cracked down on the protesters in the streets yet is because the cost of doing so is much too high for them. I will try to explain why in my next tweet.

    Since it was economic reasons that sparked the most recent protests rather than political like in 2009, and since people of lower socioeconomic class were among the protesters, it is harder for the regime to crack down on them and label them "dirt and dust" like they did in 2009

    The Iranian regime authorities have always relied on the lower socioeconomic class for support. Cracking down on them via the IRGC or Ministry of Intelligence is bad PR for the regime. That's why we have only seen police and anti-riot forces in the streets thus far.

    Not easy to tell how long these leaderless protests will last. But if they grow bigger (which is too soon to tell and the chances are not so high), the regime will do whatever it takes to suppress the protests, even if it means damaging their PR w/ the lower socioeconomic class.

    The regime has lately been describing Iran as the "island of stability", making reference to the instability in neighboring countries, such as Syria and Iraq. Furthermore, the regime claims to be keeping Iranians safe from extremist groups like ISIS.

    If regime crackdown on the most recent protests is too brutal, it will be harder for them to sell to the world the propaganda that Iran is an "island of stability". The regime cares about its international image, and so it will be careful with how it cracks down on the protests.

    The regime will tolerate the protests and hold off on sending in the big guns for as long as possible, in order to save face. The rest we will have to wait and see what unfolds in the coming days.

  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #77 - January 02, 2018, 05:53 PM

    Iranwire - People have left the reformists behind
  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #78 - January 02, 2018, 06:16 PM

    Apart from revealing the depth of disillusionment with the the Islamic Regime, I can't see these protests achieving anything without some sort of unified aim, plan or objective.
  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #79 - January 02, 2018, 06:37 PM

    I’m not sure. In some ways it looks like what happened in Tunisia in 2011 where protests started spontaneously in small towns and took a while to take hold in the capital. I don’t think there was any more of a unified plan there. The regime was probably a lot more fragile though.
  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #80 - January 02, 2018, 06:42 PM

    Thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/AmirToumaj/status/948224673418006529
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    #Iranprotests, day 6:

    -Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei accuses "enemies" of being behind protests, says he will talk more later

    -At least 20 reportedly killed, hundreds arrested

    -IRGC says Basij has bolstered police in some counties but that IRGC hasn't had to deploy en masse

  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #81 - January 02, 2018, 06:48 PM

    Guardian report: https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/02/iran-protests-how-did-they-start-and-where-are-they-heading
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iA205QgPitY
  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #82 - January 02, 2018, 08:41 PM

     https://giant.gfycat.com/FatBlankAdder.webm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7yiAI-BBog

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD1iMU0bP_Q

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeVi9iCEFSg

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  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #83 - January 02, 2018, 10:08 PM

    I’m not sure. In some ways it looks like what happened in Tunisia in 2011 where protests started spontaneously in small towns and took a while to take hold in the capital. I don’t think there was any more of a unified plan there. The regime was probably a lot more fragile though.


    Yes and they weren't pitted against the clergy.

    Even though many Iranians dislike the clergy, I can't see a wholesale movement against them and against the Ayatollah.

    It would be almost a declaration of apostasy and that's not something the man in the street is ready for. At least not on a mass scale.
  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #84 - January 03, 2018, 02:58 AM

    ISwedish Iranian Scholar dr. Ahmadreza Djalal  sentenced to death   says  that  famous  science magazine    nature.com  with this pciture


    Researcher Ahmadreza Djalali was convicted of espionage and sentenced in Iran on 21 October.


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    A judge in Tehran has ordered the death penalty for Iranian researcher Ahmadreza Djalali, according to his wife and diplomatic sources in Italy.

    Djalali is affiliated with the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden, and the University of Eastern Piedmont in Novara, Italy. A resident of Sweden with his family, Djalali was arrested in April 2016 on an academic visit to Tehran and accused of “collaboration with a hostile government”. He works on improving hospitals’ emergency responses to armed terrorism and radiological, chemical and biological threats.

    Djalali was convicted of espionage following a trial led by Abolqasem Salavati, a judge in Iran's revolutionary court, and sentenced to death on 21 October, according to Djalali's wife Vida Mehrannia and to Italian diplomatic sources. They say he has 20 days to appeal against the sentence.

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    Djalali, 45, is married with two children and worked on improving hospitals’ emergency responses to armed terrorism and radiological, chemical and biological threat at the Karolinska Institutet in Sweden. He has been sentenced to death in Iran for collaboration with scientists from foreign, “enemy” states. He has refused to eat in protest to his arrest, and is said to be in poor mental and physical condition.

    His lawyer has not appealed to the Iranian Supreme Court, although his appeal should have been filed within three weeks. It appears that it no appeal ever reached the Supreme Court. Since Djalali’s conviction, 268,000 people have signed petitions in his defense. According to the university, despite the pressure on scientific and diplomatic level by Belgian, Swedish, and Italian politicians, as well as by the head of European diplomacy, Federica Mogherini, Iran “continues to violate the rights of the professor.”

    Recently, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and Mohammad Ali Jafari, the commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), have issued warnings of “infiltration” attempts by Iran’s enemies.

    Djalali previously told his sister that he had been forced to sign a confession. The Iranian government is calling it a matter of national security.

    that is what other news says with that picture

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  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #85 - January 03, 2018, 03:10 AM

    Yes and they weren't pitted against the clergy.

    ..........I can't see a wholesale movement against them and against the Ayatollah.................
     



    once  this baboonism dictatorships  from these so-called Islamic nations are removed,   the first country(from so-called Islamic nations)  that has  human and material resources to become  a progressive  nation  is Iran...

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  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #86 - January 03, 2018, 09:54 AM

    Thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/ksadjadpour/status/948377671024762880
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    1. Thread: If this map is correct--it would be good to corroborate--Western Iran is riddled with minor insurrections. This is VERY worrisome for many Iranians--including regime opponents--given the diverse inhabitants/oil resources of these regions

  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #87 - January 03, 2018, 09:57 AM

    What is fueling the protests in Iran?
  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #88 - January 03, 2018, 10:05 AM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/farnazfassihi/status/948420112230514690
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    #Iran regime has called for counter protest of supporters for Wednesday.
    Govt. employees, college students & teachers report mandatory participation.


    https://mobile.twitter.com/SaeedKD/status/948467527931351040
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    Interesting to see the hardline Fars news publishing these images of pro-establishment rallies in Iran, in a bid to send a message that even women with loose hijab support the state against recent unrest


    Thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/rezahakbari/status/948375150289965057
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    Was notified by @nargesbajoghli that video is state-sponsored. Effort to regain control of narrative in #IranProtests. Contemplated deleting it, but changed my mind. No matter what grievances r telling & demonstrates regime approach


    This is the state-sponsored video referred to above.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DovtCeRsvD4
    Press TV coverage of today’s pro-regime rallies.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SwvcALOpXY8

    Edit: claim that IRGC is behind Avant TV video: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/en/originals/2018/01/iran-protests-irgc-media-producers-landscape-avant-tv.amp.html
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    The Avant TV video, released on social media five days after protests erupted in Iran, which have thus far spread to dozens of cities and almost every province, carefully stitches together an emotional array of interviews of people unhappy with the economic situation and President Hassan Rouhani’s policies. With scarce public information available about Avant TV, and with the great pains its producers have taken to present it as an independent station, the video is intended to appear to be transparent, a true representation of the will of the Iranian people. Glaringly absent from the video are any criticism of the political establishment as a whole, which has been one of the main themes of the current demonstrations.

    Avant TV is in fact not independent at all. Al-Monitor has not been able to contact it, but two pro-regime media producers confirmed that it is only the latest example of a new media outlet backed by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) seeking to reinforce the narrative of the supreme leader above the politics of Iran.

  • Iran uprising - is the end in sight for the Islamic regime?
     Reply #89 - January 03, 2018, 12:08 PM

    What's behind the protests in Iran and what can you do?
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