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  • The psychology of islamists
     OP - October 26, 2017, 06:15 PM

    https://youtu.be/0_W0HFy9Et4

    near the last third of this video I believe she nails the personal reasons why many people like my self joined Islamist groups.
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #1 - October 26, 2017, 06:16 PM

     Insert yevzzs reply and say whats wrong with my video post and fix it  Cheesy Afro

     thnkyu
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #2 - October 28, 2017, 12:32 AM

    Quote
    https://youtu.be/0_W0HFy9Et4

    near the last third of this video I believe she nails the personal reasons why many people like my self joined Islamist groups.


    Insert yevzzs reply and say whats wrong with my video post and fix it  Cheesy Afro

     thnkyu



    And   yevzzs himself replies ....  

    Young man (17?18??) Philowolf   ... the thing that is wrong with your  video post  is VIDEO ITSELF.. ....  So instead of that Deeyah Khan Ted talk .,you should have put this Sahar Habib Ghazi Ted Talk... Incidentally both are from Pakistan...  here watch it ..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ZwgjQjnI0


    But the Question is .,  

    By joining  hands with Idiotic Islamist groups around the globe., what would  our young Muslim guy will achieve??

    1).  It helps the Image of Islam....

    2). It helps his immediate  family  and Muslim folks in the western town/city he is living...

    3). It pays the way to so-called Islamic revolution in the town  whole town.. whole city.. whole country whole world will get Islamized ..(WHATEVER THAT MAY BE)

    4).  Join the higher Jihadi group  with in Islamist group  so this young Muslim become martyr by killing infidels.. idolaters and some Secular Muslim folks ..by doing that,  he will go to Jannh and get some wide eyed big bosom houries to have eternal sex  where allah god make videos to make this young  man  as Movie/porno star....


    So dear  Young man (17?18??) Philowolf  ..  which one of the above four  goals  will our young Muslim gun  achieve by joining Idiotic Islamist groups??


    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #3 - October 28, 2017, 12:56 AM

    19
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #4 - October 28, 2017, 12:57 AM

    He/she will aciechive non of the above but may find belonding in these backwas groups
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #5 - October 28, 2017, 01:13 AM

    He/she will aciechive non of the above but may find belonding in these backwas groups

    19


    Oh 19... you are a very oooold kid...  you are ready to ride the world ., So Phil .,I want you to watch this  TED video and give me/readers your opinion on what she is saying...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krNmYoBpW5E

    with best wishes
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #6 - October 28, 2017, 01:23 AM

    Dont know what Quran she read but seams shes using her own muslim in laws/husband to get her views rather than what islam may or may not say.

    Plus I get the vibe she is just doing lipservice now for anti muslim bigotary she may have done in the past
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #7 - October 28, 2017, 01:31 AM

    An form what i know honor killings are only haram due to them being vigilatism and would otherwise be punised under the khalifate but not because the vicitim of the honor killing was/is considered a non criminal
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #8 - October 28, 2017, 01:41 AM

    Dont know what Quran she read but seams shes using her own muslim in laws/husband to get her views rather than what islam may or may not say.

    Plus I get the vibe she is just doing lipservice now for anti muslim bigotary she may have done in the past

     why would you say that   "she is doing lip service now for anti muslim bigotary" when her husband and her kids are Muslims.. and  they are married over 20years ..


    Young man she is very well educated and very well known person in US of A  .. Look at  her Impressive credentials.,   and..and ..   and watch this  ..how impressive she is  in a debate

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #9 - October 28, 2017, 01:55 AM

    Will do in morning
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #10 - February 08, 2018, 04:08 PM

    If you honestly believe this shit is real why wouldn't you be a jihadist? I find a lot of people who deny jihad has anything to do with islam deny that anyone could really truly honestly believe in god/religion. Once you accept that these people really do believe the religious/scriptural justifications they use, everything falls into place.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #11 - February 08, 2018, 04:11 PM

    Oh iam not saying thats not a factor...just alof of what she says has got to do with it as well
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #12 - February 08, 2018, 04:50 PM

    I've been told I'm an islamophobe for believing islamists when they are dripping with blood saying "This is why I did it" instead of calling them liars.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #13 - February 08, 2018, 04:53 PM

    There not liars....but for example....why they became more religious in the first place could be some of the things she mentions.

    Like i only become religious in the first place because of a lot of personal problems i had then my reasons where religious/political ect
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #14 - February 08, 2018, 05:44 PM

    Honestly mate, I don't think some ex-muslim organisations even know what they stand for nowadays. Never-muslims like Bill Maher and Richard Dawkins say they are in favour of women's rights, the freedom to believe or disbelieve as you see fit, and these are racist colonialists. Ex-musims say the same and they're coons. Reformist muslims like Maajid Nawaz are coconuts. And you're got fucking ex-muslims saying this. Yes, I understand you don't want KKK types taking your stories to further their agendas, but why demonise those who will stand with you for saying the exact same thing you do?

    Richard Dawkins says societies that use islam to justify the subjugation of women are evil. Ohh, he's a bigot, you say, while arguing the same point as him, at the same time as he gives money to ex-muslim organisations. You know, once upon a time ex-muslim groups would recognise an ally who wasn't from the same background, who would occasionally simply step over the line, and tell them how they fucked up.

    This is a perfect example. Dawkins described islam as evil, and instead of painting him as something he's not, CEMB wrote a reply to him intended to educate and actually chat with and debate/argue (with muslims and ex-muslims) his points to hash out who was right, or who had the most points, and go from there. Here's the article: "Why describing Islam as ‘evil’ is not helpful" https://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=23650.0

    They didn't cast him out into the cold. They made an attempt to engage with him and then actually waited to see what his response was before condemning him. As it turns out, he acknowledged the points made and is still a champion of ex-muslims.

    Now? People can't even understand the difference between an ally who makes a mistake and an enemy. I challenge anyone to go through my posts and show I'm a racist or a bigot, and I've said far worse about certain societies and interpretations of islam than some of the people the new ones label as "oppressors". What the fuck? I don't like islam as a religion or how it's practised in a number of muslim majority countries. I'm for men and women and believers and non-believers and apostates all being equal under the law, What a sexist racist I am. As is every non-white member of this forum. Let's tell the ex-muslim bloggers being murdered for being ex-muslims how they are encouraging white supremacism and western colonialism, by wanting the right to not be murdered for being ex-muslims. There are actually people who would argue these points. Against people like me and every other long time CEMB member who's most cherished loved ones are muslim. These unenlightened cunts, like me, who believe in equal rights under the law regardless of sex, race or belief. The bigoted wankers. Jesus fucking Christ...

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #15 - February 09, 2018, 10:09 AM

    Ah you drunk QSE.....cause i dont know how your rant applyies to me
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #16 - February 09, 2018, 10:28 AM

    Ah you drunk QSE.....cause i dont know how your rant applyies to me


    Philowolf ....QSE  may be may not  be drinking but  he is certainly angry. And that  response from him IS NOT FOR YOU...    he is responding to my post  which  could be in other folder...

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #17 - February 09, 2018, 10:29 AM

    Ah right
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #18 - February 09, 2018, 04:32 PM

    Ah right

      Huh!   Yesssssss  what i said is right....  Yesss  what i  write is right Quran

    just kidding.,,,Philowolf ... young man.... Do not worry  about  what  i write or what QSE writes....but  do  you  think about this tube..??

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLi6iYnnsGc




     

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #19 - February 11, 2018, 10:24 AM

    Honestly mate, I don't think some ex-muslim organisations even know what they stand for nowadays. Never-muslims like Bill Maher and Richard Dawkins say they are in favour of women's rights, the freedom to believe or disbelieve as you see fit, and these are racist colonialists. Ex-musims say the same and they're coons. Reformist muslims like Maajid Nawaz are coconuts. And you're got fucking ex-muslims saying this. Yes, I understand you don't want KKK types taking your stories to further their agendas, but why demonise those who will stand with you for saying the exact same thing you do?

    Richard Dawkins says societies that use islam to justify the subjugation of women are evil. Ohh, he's a bigot, you say, while arguing the same point as him, at the same time as he gives money to ex-muslim organisations. You know, once upon a time ex-muslim groups would recognise an ally who wasn't from the same background, who would occasionally simply step over the line, and tell them how they fucked up.

    This is a perfect example. Dawkins described islam as evil, and instead of painting him as something he's not, CEMB wrote a reply to him intended to educate and actually chat with and debate/argue (with muslims and ex-muslims) his points to hash out who was right, or who had the most points, and go from there. Here's the article: "Why describing Islam as ‘evil’ is not helpful" https://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=23650.0

    They didn't cast him out into the cold. They made an attempt to engage with him and then actually waited to see what his response was before condemning him. As it turns out, he acknowledged the points made and is still a champion of ex-muslims.

    Now? People can't even understand the difference between an ally who makes a mistake and an enemy. I challenge anyone to go through my posts and show I'm a racist or a bigot, and I've said far worse about certain societies and interpretations of islam than some of the people the new ones label as "oppressors". What the fuck? I don't like islam as a religion or how it's practised in a number of muslim majority countries. I'm for men and women and believers and non-believers and apostates all being equal under the law, What a sexist racist I am. As is every non-white member of this forum. Let's tell the ex-muslim bloggers being murdered for being ex-muslims how they are encouraging white supremacism and western colonialism, by wanting the right to not be murdered for being ex-muslims. There are actually people who would argue these points. Against people like me and every other long time CEMB member who's most cherished loved ones are muslim. These unenlightened cunts, like me, who believe in equal rights under the law regardless of sex, race or belief. The bigoted wankers. Jesus fucking Christ...


    You have a set of first principles you agree with. Fine. But a lot can be built upon first principles, and people can cleave to the same first principles for very different reasons. Why is this even remarkable?

    Put another way, you appear to have an apolitical reading of a discourse grounded very much in today's politics. If you can afford this apolitical reading, good for you, but ignoring the rest of the picture doesn't strike me as a good idea if you're genuinely trying to understand it.
  • The psychology of islamists
     Reply #20 - February 11, 2018, 01:53 PM

    Quote
    Honestly mate, I don't think some ex-muslim organisations even know what they stand for nowadays. Never-muslims like Bill Maher and Richard Dawkins say they are in favour of women's rights, the freedom to believe or disbelieve as you see fit, and these are racist colonialists. Ex-musims say the same and they're coons. Reformist muslims like Maajid Nawaz are coconuts. And you're got fucking ex-muslims saying this. Yes, I understand you don't want KKK types taking your stories to further their agendas, but why demonise those who will stand with you for saying the exact same thing you do?

    Richard Dawkins says societies that use islam to justify the subjugation of women are evil. Ohh, he's a bigot, you say, while arguing the same point as him, at the same time as he gives money to ex-muslim organisations. You know, once upon a time ex-muslim groups would recognise an ally who wasn't from the same background, who would occasionally simply step over the line, and tell them how they fucked up.

    This is a perfect example. Dawkins described islam as evil, and instead of painting him as something he's not, CEMB wrote a reply to him intended to educate and actually chat with and debate/argue (with muslims and ex-muslims) his points to hash out who was right, or who had the most points, and go from there. Here's the article: "Why describing Islam as ‘evil’ is not helpful" https://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=23650.0

    They didn't cast him out into the cold. They made an attempt to engage with him and then actually waited to see what his response was before condemning him. As it turns out, he acknowledged the points made and is still a champion of ex-muslims.

    Now? People can't even understand the difference between an ally who makes a mistake and an enemy. I challenge anyone to go through my posts and show I'm a racist or a bigot, and I've said far worse about certain societies and interpretations of islam than some of the people the new ones label as "oppressors". What the fuck? I don't like islam as a religion or how it's practised in a number of muslim majority countries. I'm for men and women and believers and non-believers and apostates all being equal under the law, What a sexist racist I am. As is every non-white member of this forum. Let's tell the ex-muslim bloggers being murdered for being ex-muslims how they are encouraging white supremacism and western colonialism, by wanting the right to not be murdered for being ex-muslims. There are actually people who would argue these points. Against people like me and every other long time CEMB member who's most cherished loved ones are muslim. These unenlightened cunts, like me, who believe in equal rights under the law regardless of sex, race or belief. The bigoted wankers. Jesus fucking Christ...

    You have a set of first principles you agree with. Fine. But a lot can be built upon first principles, and people can cleave to the same first principles for very different reasons. Why is this even remarkable?

    Put another way, you appear to have an apolitical reading of a discourse grounded very much in today's politics. If you can afford this apolitical reading, good for you, but ignoring the rest of the picture doesn't strike me as a good idea if you're genuinely trying to understand it.



    I wonder whether these posts should be here in this folder ..   i think   they fit in to that    New Book / Tell  Mamu  folder  .,    well On that blind belief I have ......"No one is unquestionable and silence is not option against oppression religious or otherwise " .....

    I can say "there is  a bitter way to question and there is a better way to question a post and show the correct path"

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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