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  • Amina Lone and the Labour Party
     OP - September 06, 2017, 05:05 PM

    I haven't been following the story but this report is interesting:

    http://www.sedaa.org/2017/08/amina-lone-and-the-shame-of-the-labour-party-in-the-uk/
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    Dissenters from within Muslim communities are often silenced by being cast as ‘traitors’ or dismissed as not being ‘authentic’ often.  Often, wider society either looks away, or sides with the reactionary forces within our communities because of fear of causing offense.

    A high-profile female councillor in Manchester has been forced out for being too ‘outspoken’. The Manchester Evening News website reported how in-fighting within Manchester City Council has been blamed for pushing out Hulme councillor Amina Lone after seven years at the town hall.

    Sedaa readers will be familiar with Cllr Lone’s articles on misogyny within Muslim communities and the problems of extremism and how they must be tackled....

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    The ‘Biraderi’ system, a clan-based system, is key to local politics in parts of the UK. The networks are an extension of systems of allegiance in Pakistan itself. For some members, the clan gives them their strongest sense of identity and personal codes of behaviour.

    When a candidate is chosen for election, it will usually be a Biraderi elder. He will have been chosen by his clan on the basis of bloodlines rather than personal ability. His name goes out to the extended clan in Pakistan and the UK.

    Alliances between politicians and Biraderi elders in Pakistan lead to leaders travelling to the UK during elections and instructing their clan members to vote for a particular candidate. Without this support, the candidate is doomed.

    It seems to me that Cllr Lone has fallen foul of the Biraderi clans, speaking out on difficult topics and discussing the problems that exist within Pakistani, Muslim communities.

    Does this description sound accurate? It's not something I really know much about.
  • Amina Lone and the Labour Party
     Reply #1 - September 06, 2017, 05:36 PM

    I haven't been following the story but this report is interesting:

    http://www.sedaa.org/2017/08/amina-lone-and-the-shame-of-the-labour-party-in-the-uk/Does this description sound accurate? It's not something I really know much about.

      Hmmm... good..good.,let me add this


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSdG-RRlqpw

    I wouldlove to know more about  that Nadia Chan,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9vSMt47bwc

    "Jews are “parasites”  ...Nadia Chan....  “anti-colonialist Islamist”..

    Hmm what the hell is that??   “anti-colonialist Islamist”..
     ...ACI....ACMI...  whatever .,

    hello   Nadia.   what you are saying is NOT good..

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Amina Lone and the Labour Party
     Reply #2 - September 08, 2017, 04:45 PM

    I haven't been following the story but this report is interesting:

    http://www.sedaa.org/2017/08/amina-lone-and-the-shame-of-the-labour-party-in-the-uk/Does this description sound accurate? It's not something I really know much about.


    I don't know much about the Amina Lone case, but the Biraderi system does exist and is a major issue in Pakistani communities due to the overwhelming majority (60-70%) of Pakistani families originating from Mirpur/Kashmir.

    The low levels of political party members within many areas makes it possible to rig the system and nominate specific individuals to be the candidate running to be councillor. All you have to do is get your extended family and friends to join the political party and attend meetings on a regular basis, to make it seem legitimate that you are interested in politics, then when a vote comes along make sure they all know what they are doing. The main reason for getting involved in local politics is usually for local business interests, like building permits etc., but it can also be down to a need to control the political narrative of the 'Muslim/Pakistani Community'. The Biraderi systems is also influential in the running of mosques and maybe even the umbrella organisations like Muslim Council of Britain.

    The article also mentioned the Gorton constituency which currently has Labour Shadow Cabinet member Afzal Khan as their MP. He is certainly someone who has benefited from the Biraderi system, and I know that for sure since one of my friends is the son of a Manchester Councillor who is quite close to Khan.

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/labour-party-suspends-two-branches-688274

    This article above doesn't mention the Biraderi system but I'm sure it had something to do with it, both Cheetham and Crumpsall are next to each other and have a massive Mirpuri/Kashmiri population. It is interesting that Richard Leese is mentioned alongside Khan in the article as he is currently the Manchester Labour Council Leader and he, despite apparently being a supporter of Amina Lone, dismissed her claims and reiterated the position that it was to do with her track record. http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-labour-party-hit-back-13570626

    Whatever the reason for her dismissal it is certainly not a good sign for the Labour party and I expect it to get worse if the party doesn't deal with the Biraderi issue.
  • Amina Lone and the Labour Party
     Reply #3 - September 08, 2017, 04:55 PM

    Thanks SilentMancunian.
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