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  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #90 - August 31, 2017, 05:48 PM

    Jefferson, Washington and Madison all owned slaves.   If that invalidates them as leaders and authors of the constitution we are inviting anarchy.  At a guess I would say around 95% of Americans would be passionately opposed to any such outcome.


    Only the lunatic fringe argue to remove them from the American pantheon. This is a red herring.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #91 - August 31, 2017, 05:54 PM

    On the other hand, as a Georgian I'd be more than happy with getting MLK shooting eye lasers through the confederate carving on the side of Stone Mountain.  grin12

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #92 - August 31, 2017, 06:13 PM

    ^ http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/16/us/georgia-stone-mountain-outkast-confederate-monument/index.html
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #93 - August 31, 2017, 06:34 PM

    Yeah, that didn't really go anywhere, and no one in Atlanta is at all surprised by that.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #94 - August 31, 2017, 06:46 PM

    Coincidentally I found myself in Charlottesville about a week ago having a discussion with a supporter of the statue. His take was that they should allow “the blacks” and the “Indians” to build their own monuments alongside the confederate ones.
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #95 - September 02, 2017, 03:55 AM

    I don't really feel on board with that.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #96 - September 02, 2017, 09:43 PM

    For Ibn Tilal ...

    Registered for same day access at 6:30 am last Thursday and spent 3 hours working our way (wife and I) from 1400 floor by floor up to the 1960s.  I thought going in that I have at least a good general knowledge of slavery and the civil rights movement but it was good to take the journey as a whole and some new facts and aspects were duly noted.

    Overall I think that as a white person with some pride in Western civilization one can only have mixed emotions - shame at what some white people did, but pride that the museum was made possible by white subscribers and thankfully the role some brave white people did in support of freedom and civil rights for black Americans.  The Museum of African American History and Culture is part of the Smithsonian system of museums.  Smithson was a British scientist who left $500,000 when he died in 1829 to the US for the purpose of building a museum.  There are today 19 separate Smithsonian museums in the U.S. including this one, and two covering the history of the American Indian.  George W Bush also did a lot to make this museum possible.

    I am also reminded of the role of Christianity and the Christian conscience that inspired both the Abolitionist movement and the Civil Rights Movement.  The US was very blessed that a Christian inspired non violent campaign culminating in The March On Washington led to the enactment of the Great Society programs.  Had that path not been available it would certainly have involved even more bloodshed and suffering.

    But if I was asked for one overriding impression it was for me the incredible courage and dignity of so many African American people who bravely took beatings, imprisonment and even death for the cause of their liberation.   I am most proud and inspired by them.

  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #97 - September 03, 2017, 12:39 AM

    I never expected to hear someone come out of that museum singing praises for the contributions of white people before claiming their impression to be otherwise. .

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #98 - September 03, 2017, 09:52 PM

    There's no way you can be real Unifier. FFS, that's a laughable impression, and also depressing.  Cheesy

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #99 - September 04, 2017, 10:10 AM

    Thread on antifa: https://mobile.twitter.com/JackSmithIV/status/904378988642041858  Vidal Sassoon gets a mention.
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #100 - September 04, 2017, 11:37 AM

    For Ibn Tilal ...
    ............................

    Overall I think that as a white person with some pride in Western (Human)civilization one can only have mixed emotions - shame at what some white people did, but pride that the museum was made possible by white subscribers and thankfully the role some brave humanitarians  white people did in support of freedom and civil rights for ALL black Americans.

    That sounds better  but  still it could be made much better

      
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    The Museum of African American History and Culture is part of the Smithsonian system of museums.  Smithson was a British scientist who left $500,000 when he died in 1829 to the US for the purpose of building a museum.  There are today 19 separate Smithsonian museums in the U.S. including this one, and two covering the history of the American Indian.  George W Bush also did a lot to make this museum possible.

    aa ...ha!    Now I understand your problem dear  Unifier.,  your problem is  you are thinking still "BLACK & WHITE " and you think  the contributions to humanity by people like that Chemist James Smithson and their works is same as Mr. George Bush.,   And off course they are white...   hence the credit should be given to whites and that includes fellows like  ....Nathan Bedford Forrest.... Thomas Dartmouth., The white knight ...



    dear Unifier... let us remove the Burqa from the brain and also please visit  that

    Jim Crow Museum
    1010 Campus Drive - Big Rapids, MI 49307
    231.591.5873

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    I am also reminded of the role of Christianity and the Christian conscience that inspired both the Abolitionist movement and the Civil Rights Movement.  The US was very blessed that a Christian inspired non violent campaign culminating in The March On Washington led to the enactment of the Great Society programs.  Had that path not been available it would certainly have involved even more bloodshed and suffering
    .

    IRRELEVANT STUFF FROM UNIFIER


    But if I was asked for one overriding impression it was for me the incredible courage and dignity of so many African American people who bravely took beatings, imprisonment and even death for the cause of their liberation.   I am most proud and inspired by them.


    what you wrote above is NOT really relevant but I am willing to read  after responding to asbie ..

    There's no way you can be real Unifier. FFS, that's a laughable impression, and also depressing.  Cheesy

    No..no... one must give credit to Unifier ., at least for his persistence of "trying to learn   how to be a Unifier" dear asbie ..  

    “From today., the law is .,

     It is unlawful for  yeezevee and Unifier  to play together or in company with each other in any game of cards or dice, dominoes or checkers.”..


    but dearest  Unifier ., ......I LOVE TO READ YOUR POSTS & LEARN FROM THEM.....

    with best wishes
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #101 - September 04, 2017, 04:21 PM



    Another group that comprised of communists and led by communist that were anti-war until Stalin told them otherwise.... Guess the twitter fool never looked at history before he posted his tripe. Keep putting that lip stick on that pig.
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #102 - September 04, 2017, 04:22 PM

    That's politics, whether you agree with its end or not.


    No that is mob rule comprised of morons not politics.
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #103 - September 04, 2017, 04:25 PM

    Only the lunatic fringe argue to remove them from the American pantheon. This is a red herring.


    Nope it isn't as the very point being brought up is feelings motivate far more than any rational. Hence why Jefferson and Washington are targets. Hence why Lincoln statues are targets. The principles are applicable in those cases as the principles are so weak in the precedent
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #104 - September 04, 2017, 07:08 PM


    Another group that comprised of communists and led by communist that were anti-war until Stalin told them otherwise.... Guess the twitter fool never looked at history before he posted his tripe. Keep putting that lip stick on that pig.

    There's a book on the 43 Group here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/43-Group-Battling-Mosleys-Blackshirts/dp/0752499424/ref=pd_sim_14_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=B301BC2HX1T3BQFK7NHC

    Wiki on the 43 Group: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/43_Group

    Joe Jacobs on the battle of Cable Street: https://libcom.org/files/The%20Battle%20of%20Cable%20St,%201936%20-%20Joe%20Jacobs.pdf
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #105 - September 05, 2017, 09:49 AM



     Read your own citation. They are not Antifa as Antifa in both the UK and German were based on and from Communist parties.

    Quote


    A bunch of people marching does not make an group nor organization. Otherwise there is no differentiating Black supremacists and racists from those that do not follow such views within BLM. 
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #106 - September 06, 2017, 10:55 AM

    So .... who are the fascists?

    http://nypost.com/2017/09/06/this-pro-freedom-activist-constantly-takes-a-liberal-beating/

  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #107 - September 06, 2017, 11:54 AM


    Some of the people associated with Patriot Prayer?

    http://rosecityantifa.org/articles/stand-up-call-to-action/
    Quote
    There has not been a single Patriot Prayer rally in the Portland area which has not featured the presence and recruitment activities of overt fascists, white supremacists, and neo-nazis. The correlation between Joey Gibson’s rallies and increased incidents of white supremacist harassment, violence, and murder is clear and direct.

    Joey Gibson constantly issues cheap verbal declarations that white supremacists are not welcome at his rallies, but refuses to ever take any action that would prevent them from using his rallies as platforms for organizing violence against our communities. Ultimately words do not matter, actions do.

  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #108 - September 06, 2017, 08:57 PM

    You really think an antifa organization is a credible source?   Just a few sentences in the antifa author is busy portraying him as a racist (despite the multi-racial speakers accurately listed in the NYPost article).   No evidence offered at all.

    I've seen this guy interviewed and he comes across as a regular person to me.   If support for God (not popular on CEMB I know), family, free speech, anti-communism etc are labelled fascist and racist, then there is no hope.

    There are no doubt some well intentioned people in antifa and I get that there lesson from history is that had Hitler been resisted on the street when he only had 50 supporters ... millions of lives might have been saved.   But let's look at who and what antifa believes must be physically confronted. attacked or vandalized:  Milo, Ann Coulter (defended by Bernie Sanders btw), Charles Murray, Condoleeza Rice, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, any commercial property, any police officer, the legally elected president of the US.   The list could go on ... but this will not win them any broad based public sympathy.   In fact, quite the contrary.


  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #109 - September 07, 2017, 08:39 AM

    You really think an antifa organization is a credible source?   Just a few sentences in the antifa author is busy portraying him as a racist (despite the multi-racial speakers accurately listed in the NYPost article).   No evidence offered at all.

    I've seen this guy interviewed and he comes across as a regular person to me.   If support for God (not popular on CEMB I know), family, free speech, anti-communism etc are labelled fascist and racist, then there is no hope.


    you are terribly wrong there dear Unifier.,  CEMB folks  fully support the concept of  god...and inquiry in to the concept of god..  what they may Question is .... FAITH HEADS saying..

    "this is  god word
    this book is from god
    if you do not follow what we say. we beat you up.,or we throw you out of  our town, .....our city and our country.. "


    Quote
    There are no doubt some well intentioned people in antifa and I get that there lesson from history is that had Hitler been resisted on the street when he only had 50 supporters ... millions of lives might have been saved.    But let's look at who and what antifa believes must be physically confronted. attacked or vandalized:  [b]Milo, Ann Coulter (defended by Bernie Sanders btw), Charles Murray, Condoleeza Rice, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, any commercial property, any police officer, the legally elected president of the US.  [/b] The list could go on ... but this will not win them any broad based public sympathy.   In fact, quite the contrary.


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #110 - September 07, 2017, 05:29 PM

    Some of the people associated with Patriot Prayer?

    http://rosecityantifa.org/articles/stand-up-call-to-action/


    Joey is half Japanese for Christ's sake.... Your source has no credibility at all. Heck look at its stupid correlation.... So if there is a BLM march in a city around the same time a Black person kills someone that must been BLM is giving rise to violence and is a racist organization.... Right..... Cause two event happening around the same time is evidence of not only being related but BLM must be the cause of that murder. If black supremacist is at a BLM rally that means BLM is racist. After all BLM does not prevent these people from coming!

    Pure stupidity.

     

  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #111 - September 07, 2017, 05:34 PM



    There are no doubt some well intentioned people in antifa and I get that there lesson from history is that had Hitler been resisted on the street when he only had 50 supporters ... millions of lives might have been saved.   But let's look at who and what antifa believes must be physically confronted. attacked or vandalized:  Milo, Ann Coulter (defended by Bernie Sanders btw), Charles Murray, Condoleeza Rice, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, any commercial property, any police officer, the legally elected president of the US.   The list could go on ... but this will not win them any broad based public sympathy.   In fact, quite the contrary.




    Ironically the lawlessness of Communist Antifa in Germany during Hitler's life provided him with more support. He would attack the group for being lawless, which it was. He would then turn on the weak government for not stopping Communist violence. Finally he would appeal to the citizens regarding the violence and weak government telling them he would provide law and order.

    Stopping Hilter would of required his death. He was imprisoned in the 20s, that didn't stop him. Antifa is merely advocating open murder for people's political views. Yet they do not target strictly Neo-Nazis. Now Christians, Republicans, Trump voters, etc are all fascist. Fascist has become a meme and label to toss at anyone that disagrees with them.
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #112 - September 07, 2017, 10:20 PM

    I couldn't agree more Bogart.   Another major fact in my mind that undermines their arguments about stopping Fascism in America is:  with all of our problems and challenges we are constitutionally and legally strong (for the forseeable future) and well able to detect and defeat any would be dictator.   We are not the Weimar regime, we have a strong and independent citizenry well aware of its rights - and may that always be so despite the best efforts of our malfunctioning education system and media.

  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #113 - September 07, 2017, 11:18 PM

    Joey is half Japanese for Christ's sake.... .......................


    http://rosecityantifa.org/post/

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    Fight the Fascist Creep in Portland with Rose City Antifa's 8/6 Fundraiser Challenge!
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    Mon, May 22, 2017
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    Mon, Dec 13, 2010
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    Sat, Nov 13, 2010
    Portland Neo-Nazi Sentenced for Mailing Hangmans Noose to NAACP Leader
    Sat, Nov 13, 2010
    Starrett Loses in Yamhill County Commissioner Race
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    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #114 - September 07, 2017, 11:23 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFJjekZckH8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScVu1NbOt8

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #115 - September 08, 2017, 07:55 AM

    I would urge anyone commenting further on this thread to bear our most recent forum rule in mind.
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #116 - September 08, 2017, 04:55 PM

    http://rosecityantifa.org/post/
    201620152014
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    Former ELF/ Green Scare Prisoner "Exile" Now a Fascist
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    Make AFP Pay For Harassing IRCO! Tell Regal Fox Tower to Fire Rebecca Hughes!
    Sat, Jul 12, 2014
    Dylan Sutherlin's Upcoming Prison Release!
    Fri, Jun 20, 2014
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    Fri, May 30, 2014
    NAZI GOTHS FUCK OFF!!! SHUT DOWN DEATH IN JUNE IN PORTLAND!!!
    Mon, Apr 28, 2014
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    No Nazis in the Rose City: Report on Yesterday's Antifascist Day of Action
    Sun, Mar 16, 2014
    Additional Members of Oregon AFP Identified
    Sat, Mar 15, 2014
    ALERTA ANTIFA! Oppose the "White Man March" this Saturday March 15th Downtown Portland!
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    Wed, Feb 26, 2014
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  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #117 - September 08, 2017, 05:00 PM

    I would urge anyone commenting further on this thread to bear our most recent forum rule in mind.


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  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #118 - September 08, 2017, 05:27 PM

    There is no moral equivalence between neo-Nazis and the people who oppose them.

    Anyone who feels otherwise should consider for a moment the likely background of most of this forum's members.

    Clear enough?
  • Charlottesville: one dead, nineteen injured as car drives into protesters
     Reply #119 - September 09, 2017, 11:44 AM

    I have recently adopted the view that these people should be left to their own devices, and that we should either ignore them or stand up to them (verbally, of course). That being said, I respect the mods and understand why you won't allow them to have a voice over here. The people who keep suggesting that we be nice to them and engage in open debate to stop their bigotry from spreading have not been in our shoes. They're not the ones who are the targets of these neo-Nazis as people of colour (which most of us are). Additionally, we as ex-Muslims end up getting associated with the far-right all too often, as they keep hovering around us for the sake of their agendas, no need to add neo-Nazis to the mix. This is the despite the fact that the majority of us want nothing to do with these people.
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