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  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #90 - July 01, 2017, 12:03 PM

    Not been banned .... yet (sorry Toor)!   Just keeping my head down for a while.   Travelling for the next few days for 4th July celebrations upstate New York.   I know USA is not top of the tops on CEMB either but picture small upstate NY towns (villages really) who put up flags, hold marches with local high school bands and have flags every 10 feet for a mile or so topped off with fireworks.  A love fest for America.

    Small town America - very patriotic, quite nice people too, believe it or not -  but not very multi-cultural or understanding of people not like themselves.   My conceit is I'm not as narrow (I hope) and I look forward to more stimulating exchanges on CEMB.

    Happy July 4th!

  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #91 - July 01, 2017, 12:04 PM

    Like I said, a working sense of shame.
  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #92 - July 01, 2017, 04:16 PM

    Not been banned .... yet (sorry Toor)!   Just keeping my head down for a while.   ........ and I look forward to more stimulating exchanges on CEMB.

    Happy July 4th!


    i like the pictures of SCYL that you posting dear unifier



    that is good one..  what ? are you trying insult the SCYL  by posting such pictures??

    Oh! this is good one.. good news..good news..

    http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-40461626/danish-muslim-politician-confronts-senders-of-hate-mail



    good going ..Dialogue is important .. without talking ..without dialogue  hate build within and goes in a unchanneled direction ..


    anyways I am glad that you are still  reading and writing in to  CEMB dear  Unifier

    with best
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #93 - July 05, 2017, 12:20 PM

    Bit surprised no one has posted the video of what the thread is originally about.

    First vid from Rebel Edge, second from Quilliam.

    Tommy goes to Quilliam:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFkCzwW3n3Q

    Tommy and Quilliam head Haras Rafiq on Daily Politics with Andrew Neil:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA0CugvXFYA

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #94 - July 05, 2017, 12:51 PM

    Bit surprised no one has posted the video of what the thread is originally about.

    First vid from Rebel Edge, second from Quilliam.  

    you got a point there dear QSE..  well it is vital to tell the facts and truth and  and to have dialogue irrespective persons & personalities

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    Tommy goes to Quilliam:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFkCzwW3n3Q

    Tommy and Quilliam head Haras Rafiq on Daily Politics with Andrew Neil:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA0CugvXFYA

    I am watching the 2nd one carefully.,  I will watch again

    thanks for those videos and add more  of such tubes..

    with best wishes
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #95 - July 05, 2017, 11:31 PM

    It should go without saying, but I'll say it that what you experienced is inexcusable and contemptible.   It should not happen and I condemn it and hope it gets punished every time.

    I've probably watched 5 or 6 hours of Robinson on various you tubes over the last year or so.  So my knowledge is limited (I live in the US).  But in those videos he has said more than once that most Muslim people are decent and nice people.   It is Islam he opposes.   He is hated and frequently threatened by the hard core skinhead racists who joined the EDL.    But .. again I think he is a hothead and there are better avenues to try to solve the problems of extremism.

    One thing that promotes the kind of violent intolerance you experienced first hand, is when the authorities:  politicians, media and criminal justice system are perceived as excusing extremism and operating in a biased manner.   The gross mishandling of immigration quotas, the inaction of police in Rochdale and elsewhere and the failure to act on things like female genital mutilation - all give the impression that people will have to solve the problem for themselves because their leaders seem clueless or biased.   The less educated members of the white indigenous English population (and American) will then take the law into their own hands in stupid and inexcusable ways.   In the US most working class whites probably couldn't tell the difference between an Indian Hindu and a Moslem.   Hindus have been attacked by yahoos and it makes me cringe.     But one answer to reduce the number of such incidents is for the legally constituted authorities to do their job.   Other answers would include more contact, communication and education. 


    And it hurts me that I'm often not seen as part of that white population, despite having a white mother. That's what some people misunderstand about mixed race people, we can belong in more than one place, more than one community, but it's up to them to accept us, and sometimes they don't want to. Too foreign for the whites, too white for the Arabs at times.

    My point is he knew who the EDL would attract. He knew it would attract skinheads and neo nazis. He's just trying to pretend he doesn't know. He is one of them, he is a white supremacist too. Nothing can convince me otherwise.
  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #96 - July 05, 2017, 11:40 PM

    Yes, you are exactly right. White society or culture traditionally will not accept mixed races. Sick but true.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #97 - July 06, 2017, 09:34 AM

    Yes, you are exactly right. White society or culture traditionally will not accept mixed races. Sick but true.


    So it makes no sense when they tell other people to integrate, when they don't even bother making people feel welcome. Like I'll look back at my hometown, yeh I have friends and family there, but it was very clear to me that there were many people who didn't want people like me living there. I was born there, but felt unwelcome.

    Then I come to a city and suddenly a lot of people think I'm fully white until they find out what my name is. But I still can't shake the outsider feeling sometimes, just because I was one for so long.
  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #98 - July 06, 2017, 11:06 AM

    I was treated like a foreigner, for about seventeen years, and it was mostly okay. I take off the hijab and people who didn't know me before think that I am sympathetic to their prejudices. It's shocking. I hate to think what it would be like if I were in an area known for racism.


    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #99 - July 06, 2017, 02:16 PM

    I have a question after making couple of statements.   I think that racism is probably the most pervasive long term problem of the human race.   The notion that I belong to this group, and anyone not a member of it poses a threat to me and mine goes back an awfully long way.  At least to when mankind was a hunter gatherer.   And of course .... in our shared mythology in the first human family Cain killed his brother Abel - so animosity goes even deeper in the human soul.

    My simple question:  Is racism today a uniquely white phenomenon, or it is universal?

  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #100 - July 06, 2017, 11:56 PM

    As far as white is commonly used, no, Europeans and their descent have not a monopoly. But rarely have I heard of darker skinned folk being racist towards lighter skinned folk, it is always the opposite, it seems. Usually what is encountered in cultural studies are the lighter skinned oppressing the darker.
    In Asia, certainly, it occurs. Look at the caste systems in so many countries. 
    Perhaps others will chime in if they know of anything to the contrary.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #101 - July 07, 2017, 01:40 AM

    As far as white is commonly used, no, Europeans and their descent have not a monopoly. But rarely have I heard of darker skinned folk being racist towards lighter skinned folk, it is always the opposite, it seems.  

    and that is because the word racism started with interpreting religious rubbish from religious books especially bible during middle ages,   The ideological basis for explicit racism came  in to the West during the modern period,  started some time in 16th century. Funny Thing as usual  Jewish folks  were the first victims of racism before  African Blackies  and Asian brownies  Cheesy

     But we must   realize  the fact  that no clear  l evidence of racism has been found in other cultures or in Europe before the Middle Ages although there were plenty of  persecutions  and   tribal warfares and tribe genocides all over the globe. So this  racism is  just 4 or 500 year old ..

















    humanzoos  good place to learn  

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #102 - July 07, 2017, 12:55 PM

    So what  is this?  what is going on?  one folder is NOT enough in CEMB  for Tommy  the English defense  LANGUAGE (EDL)  Bulldog??  there is something wrong with these boys and girls..

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    there is something seriously wrong with you guys   and who is the first one started  discussing about that Tom Boy  in this intro folder of SubbyX - My story??


    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #103 - July 17, 2017, 03:26 PM

    uni-bomber says

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    Quod ... are you a hopeless egoist?

    unifier dear unifier ..  you are picking on a wrong guy..
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     my qualified comments on Mr Robinson.

    yes.. yes... Mr.Robinson..  the leader

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/revealed-full-tape-tommy-robinson-10686928     is that today's news ?  well let us watch the video of  Mr.  Robinson.. The leader

     
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    CEMB had called me a racist ...It tends to be the ladies who hit the nuclear button most quickly.

    who called you racist dear uniFrier ?   bad ..bad people..

    Hmm Women..  yes Ladies... Now they should call you sexist .,

    if they use that word for you,  would that be wrong dear unifier??

    Problems and problems.. they multiply with time dear unifire ..  any way let me  read that UK-mirror and watch the video ..

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #104 - July 17, 2017, 05:30 PM

    So what  is this?  what is going on?  one folder is NOT enough in CEMB  for Tommy  the English defense  LANGUAGE (EDL)  Bulldog??  there is something wrong with these boys and girls..


    I'd like to explain but I have to return some videotapes.
  • Tommy Robinson is a reformed character, honest
     Reply #105 - July 18, 2017, 06:45 AM

    Ward_End comes to us courtesy of a decade plus years ago. Cheesy

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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