Wouldn’t a perfect book teach perfect morality?

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OP - April 16, 2017, 12:12 AM

So much of the Quran is devoted to redundant claims and threats about Muhammad’s status as a prophet, yet there is not a single original moral value. Nowhere does it tell men not to rape women or refrain from sex with children. In fact, it gives men permission to rape their slaves and implies that sex with children is permissible (verse 65:4).
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Reply #1 - April 17, 2017, 01:36 AM

You would think.
This is why reform in Islam would truly progress were the Quran admitted to be a book, rather than Divine Canon.

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Reply #2 - April 17, 2017, 02:09 AM

Quote from: Sajeeb on April 16, 2017, 12:12 AM
So much of the Quran is devoted to redundant claims and threats about Muhammad’s status as a prophet, yet there is not a single original moral value. Nowhere does it tell men not to rape women or refrain from sex with children. In fact, it gives men permission to rape their slaves and implies that sex with children is permissible (verse 65:4).
Wouldn’t a perfect book teach perfect morality?

The Qur'an is perfect.

Perfect at getting people to tell you to check for context, translation, ask a scholar for opinions, and tell you to shut up and just pray to Allah (which is not even the Qur'an, it's from the Hadiths, the same ones people conveniently doubt the authenticity of when they get difficult critical questions about them) and suppress any critical thought.

I mean, shit, if there's one positive trait I'll give to ISIS it's their honesty in not obfuscating what it says in the Qur'an and Hadiths.

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Reply #3 - April 17, 2017, 10:29 AM

Quote from: thornsvald on April 17, 2017, 02:09 AM
The Qur'an is perfect.

Perfect at getting people to tell you to check for context, translation, ask a scholar for opinions, and tell you to shut up and just pray to Allah (~~which is not even the Qur'an~~, it's from the Hadiths, ......................

greetings and my good wishes to you thornsvald ., That is not true., That word اللَّهِ "Allah" is there in Quran and that Arabic word was there at least a1000 years before the birth of Islam ...

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Reply #4 - April 17, 2017, 11:45 AM

Quote from: yeezevee on April 17, 2017, 10:29 AM
greetings and my good wishes to you thornsvald ., That is not true., That word اللَّهِ "Allah" is there in Quran and that Arabic word was there at least a1000 years before the birth of Islam ...

with best wishes
yeezevee

I was referring to the instructions for prayer, not the origin of the word Allah. There are the bare basics in the Qur'an, but the overwhelming majority of the instructions for prayer and ablution rituals come from the Hadiths.

Quote from: ibn Bilal on June 13, 2014, 07:17 PM
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Reply #5 - April 17, 2017, 11:50 AM

Quote from: thornsvald on April 17, 2017, 11:45 AM
I was referring to the instructions for prayer, not the origin of the word Allah.....................

.Oh!.. oops., I see you were referring to the 5 prayers of Islam and their timings

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Fajr – the dawn prayer.
Dhuhr – the noon prayer.
Asr – the afternoon prayer.
Maghrib – the sunset prayer.
Isha'a – the night prayer.

Sorry I misread your post...

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