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 Topic: Skeptical Scholars, Thinkers of the "Islamic Golden Age"

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  • Skeptical Scholars, Thinkers of the "Islamic Golden Age"
     OP - July 13, 2016, 09:43 AM

    So, I have heard before that many Arab and Persian scholars of this time period have expressed rather Agnostic/Athiestic views, or at the very least been very critical of the dominant Islamic religion at the time. Although this fact isn't in any way a valid criticism of Islam, I think it can still be helpful in creating a more robust critical thinking space within the Islamically influenced communities in which many of us live, to highlight such people.

    Al-Ma'arri is one that was very obviously atheistic, but I know that there were others as well, especially if one includes those who express criticism of Islamic thought, even if not explicitly atheist. Maybe we could make a list of them here, and the relevant quotations showing their dissent from Islam?

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  • Skeptical Scholars, Thinkers of the "Islamic Golden Age"
     Reply #1 - July 13, 2016, 01:23 PM

    Al-Ma'arri

     Maybe we could make a list of them here, and the relevant quotations showing their dissent from Islam?

    Well  that  is a good heading and good folder asbie .,I think  not only just names of such great people but one  should add bit  about their works and their life..

    quickly the name of Ibn al-Rawandi  comes in to my  mind


    Ibn Al-Rawandi    
    Born   827 CE    Greater Khorasan
    Died      860 or 911 CE   ...........unknown
    Occupation   Writer

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    Abu al-Hasan Ahmad ibn Yahya ibn Ishaq al-Rawandi (Persian: ابو الحسن احمد بن یحیی بن اسحاق راوندی‎‎, Arabic: أبو الحسن أحمد بن يحيى بن إسحاق الراوندي‎‎), commonly known as Ibn al-Rawandi (Persian: ابن راوندی‎‎;‎ 827–911 CE[1]), was an early skeptic of Islam and a critic of religion in general. In his early days, he was a Mu'tazilite scholar, but after rejecting the Mu'tazilite doctrine, he adhered to Shia Islam for a brief period before becoming a freethinker who repudiated Islam and revealed religion.[2] Although none of his works have survived, his opinions had been preserved through his critics, Muslim apologists and the surviving books that answered him.[3] His book with the most preserved fragments (through an Ismaili book refuting Al-Rawandi's ideology) is the Kitab al-Zumurrud (The Book of the Emerald).

    He joined the theological school Mu'tazili to give it up , join the Shiism , and then criticize schools and become freethinker . None of his works has survived him, the only traces of them are found in the books that condemn him or those of his followers. His best known work is the Kitab al-Zummurrud (Book of the Emerald), many of whose appointments can be found in the Kitab al-Intṣiār written and published in 882 by the Ismaili al-Khayat, who devoted himself to refute their views. Ibn al-Rawandi had many opponents among Muslims, including Mutazila, and among the dignitaries of other faiths. Being a heretic whose original writings were lost, there are different interpretations of his thought.
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    Some consider it a Shiite heretic, a mutazilí gone mad, an Aristotelian or a radical atheist. Therefore, according to Iraqi sources (and Mutazila), it was a true heretic, according to Iranian sources (Shias), not even a philosopher to consider

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