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  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #600 - January 30, 2017, 05:16 AM

    Call for an Academic Boycott of International Conferences held in the US
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    On 27 January 2017, President Donald Trump signed an Executive Order putting in place a 90-day ban that denies US entry to citizens from seven Muslim majority countries: Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Libya and Somalia. So far, the ban includes dual nationals, current visa, and green card holders, and those born in these countries while not holding citizenship of them. The Order also suspends the admittance of all refugees to the US for a period of 120 days and terminates indefinitely all refugee admissions from Syria. There are indications that the Order could be extended to include other Muslim majority countries.

    The Order has affected people with residence rights in the US, as well as those with rights of entry and stay. Some of those affected are fleeing violence and persecution, and have been waiting for years for resettlement in the US as refugees. Others are effectively trapped in the US, having cancelled planned travel for fear that they will be barred from returning. The order institutionalises racism, and fosters an environment in which people racialised as Muslim are vulnerable to ongoing and intensifying acts of violence and hatred.

    Among those affected by the Order are academics and students who are unable to participate in conferences and the free communication of ideas. We the undersigned take action in solidarity with those affected by Trump’s Executive Order by pledging not to attend international conferences in the US while the ban persists. We question the intellectual integrity of these spaces and the dialogues they are designed to encourage while Muslim colleagues are explicitly excluded from them.
    ....

  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #601 - January 30, 2017, 05:23 AM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/4danlopez/status/825903841400995844
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    Attorney's at O'Hare say Mexican nationals with a valid visa are being detained and questioned.


    https://mobile.twitter.com/Thor_Sun/status/825942750935805954
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    This seems to be a case of racist CBP agents misusing the EO to go after brown ppl ... They like DT's EO, it is cover!

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    Joint Press Release Between Border Patrol and ICE Councils

    As representatives of the nation’s Frontline immigration officers and agents responsible for enforcing our laws and protecting our borders, we fully support and appreciate President Trump’s swift and decisive action to keep the American people safe and allow law enforcement to do its job. We applaud the three executive orders he has issued to date, and are confident they will make America safer and more prosperous. Morale amongst our agents and officers has increased exponentially since the signing of the orders. The men and women of ICE and Border Patrol will work tirelessly to keep criminals, terrorists, and public safety threats out of this country, which remains the number one target in the world – and President Trump’s actions now empower us to fulfill this life saving mission, and it will indeed save thousands of lives and billions of dollars.

  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #602 - January 30, 2017, 05:39 AM

    Any thoughts on this?

    Trial Balloon for a Coup? Analyzing the news of the past 24 hours
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    ....
    I see a few key patterns here. First, the decision to first block, and then allow, green card holders was meant to create chaos and pull out opposition; they never intended to hold it for too long. It wouldn’t surprise me if the goal is to create “resistance fatigue,” to get Americans to the point where they’re more likely to say “Oh, another protest? Don’t you guys ever stop?” relatively quickly.

    However, the conspicuous absence of provisions preventing them from executing any of the “next steps” I outlined yesterday, such as bulk revocation of visas (including green cards) from nationals of various countries, and then pursuing them using mechanisms being set up for Latinos, highlights that this does not mean any sort of backing down on the part of the regime.

    Note also the most frightening escalation last night was that the DHS made it fairly clear that they did not feel bound to obey any court orders. CBP continued to deny all access to counsel, detain people, and deport them in direct contravention to the court’s order, citing “upper management,” and the DHS made a formal (but confusing) statement that they would continue to follow the President’s orders. (See my updates from yesterday, and the various links there, for details) Significant in today’s updates is any lack of suggestion that the courts’ authority played a role in the decision.

    That is to say, the administration is testing the extent to which the DHS (and other executive agencies) can act and ignore orders from the other branches of government. This is as serious as it can possibly get: all of the arguments about whether order X or Y is unconstitutional mean nothing if elements of the government are executing them and the courts are being ignored.
    ....

  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #603 - January 30, 2017, 05:50 AM

    Is this normal for US citizens? I understood this was relatively new for non-US passport holders, anyway:

    https://twitter.com/mikestanek/status/825808522634022915



    this is a good one from that link..



    and our Imran khan says this

    I hope Trump bans Pakistani visas: Imran Khan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_pcrRdwiEg

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    Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan on Sunday, while condemning the plight of Muslims prevented from entering the United States (US) under US President Donald Trump's immigration ban, expressed hope that the ban is extended to Pakistanis.

    "I want to tell all Pakistanis today, I pray that Trump bans Pakistani visas so that we can focus on fixing our country," Khan told a rally in Sahiwal.

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    Trump's sweeping executive order, signed Friday, suspends the arrival of refugees in the US for at least 120 days and bars visas for travellers from seven Muslim majority countries ─ including Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen ─ for the next three months.

    The PTI chief said most educated Pakistanis want to leave this country because they think they can only acquire gainful employment if they have a "powerful source", and said he believes that things in Pakistan can only improve if people work for progress.

    "The day we bring back the merit system back to Pakistan, all our best citizens will return and work for the betterment of this country," Khan said.

    "We will have to fix Pakistan and stand on our own two feet. And the day that we decide this is our home and we have to fix it, we won't beg for loans from the US and the International Monetary Fund (IMF)."

    Khan said the day there is a government that decides it has to live and die in Pakistan, it will fix this country.

    "The biggest issue here," he said, "is the corruption of bigwigs who... become ministers and loot this country, taking the money abroad."

    "They may have elected Trump, but we have elected Nawaz Sharif."

    Lambasting Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, Khan alleged, the PM had taken money from Pakistan and spent it abroad. "His businesses are abroad, his children are abroad, but he is the prime minister of Pakistan. He even goes abroad for checkups," he said.

    Khan lauded Iran's tit-for-tat move in response to Trump's immigration ban, which restricted US nationals travelling to Iran until the ban was lifted.

    "Iran is an independent nation and we need to become like them," Khan asserted.

    The PTI chief, directly addressing Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, urged the premier not to tamper with Pakistan's water supplies.

    Recounting Modi's speech in poll-bound Indian Punjab Friday in which he promised to abrogate the Indus Waters Treaty, Khan said, "If you shut our water, what will our people do?"

    "I know that the people in India don't want war. They want peace," Khan said. "The people want both countries to cooperate and end poverty across the subcontinent."

    That is  a good  one from  Mr. Khan .....

    Now I get it.,  i  think what President Trump  did a good thing to start noise but may be slightly skewed  and appears to be  Phobia against Muslim folks  which is wrong.

     I say   US  Government  should take another IMPORTANT  STEP  to fight against Islamic terrorism

    What President Trump should do is  PASS AN  EXECUTIVE ORDER  AND PUT IT IN FRONT OF US CONGRESS and  that  Bill  should say something like  this
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    1). All  EMBASSY PERSONNEL AND  EMBASSIES  OF THOSE MUSLIM COUNTRIES    THAT HAVE APOSTATE LAWS AND BLASPHEMY LAWS  WILL BE THROWN OUT OF USA   UNTIL  THOSE GOVERNMENTS  THROW OUT THOSE LAWS FROM THEIR BOOKS..

    2). AND ALL THE MONEY FROM THE RICH FAMOUS  AND PROPERTIES OF RICH FAMOUS MUSLIM ROGUES  THAT IS STASHED IN US of A  BANKS, REAL ESTATE & OTHER BUSINESSES  WHO SUPPORT THOSE LAWS WILL BE CONFISCATED.  


    3). ANY US of A  MUSLIM  WHO SUPPORTS SUCH  BLASPHEMY & APOSTASY LAWS WILL BE THROWN OUT OF THE COUNTRY INTO  ATLANTIC OR PACIFIC OCEAN WITH A PADDLED BOAT AND SOME FOOD FOR SURVIVAL  


    something like that   will help  fighting faith based terror  immensely

    I  tell  the world , if President Trump  does that .,  He will be  a immortal   and  he  should  send that bill to  US Congress   and see who  votes for it and who votes against it ...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #604 - January 30, 2017, 06:07 AM



    90-day ban. This isn't permanent. In fact, it's already been struck down by a judge:
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38786660

    I'm sure the strike-down will be appealed, and then whatever gets decided there will get appealed, and so on. This is what I was saying about the Supreme Court. Trump can do as much stupid stuff as he wants, but it's not going to stick, and it'll probably be undone in a matter of days--if not hours, depending on how fast the ACLU's lawyers get at writing up court papers. It's annoying and inconvenient but it's not the end of the world. Just like I was saying about how there's going to be a recession as a direct result of his policies. It's going to be annoying and inconvenient, but I survived the 2008 one and I'll survive the 2018 one.

    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I have a sonic screwdriver, a tricorder, and a Type 2 phaser.
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #605 - January 30, 2017, 06:38 AM

    That makes nbhb's comments less evil?

    Jesus Christ...


    I wasn't making a moral argument, I was making a pragmatic one. The question we're grappling with is: Do the ends justify the means? I think the answer is "sometimes". But if the means don't have a chance of reaching the desired ends, then it is entirely irrelevant in the discussion of whether or not the ends justify the means. You have to have a reliable path from means to desired ends for the question to hold any weight, and if you don't, then it's a moot point. I think you may also be assuming that I am emotionally invested in this question. I'm not--that doesn't mean I'm emotionally invested in the opposite position of yours, either, I'm not emotionally invested in either side.

    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I have a sonic screwdriver, a tricorder, and a Type 2 phaser.
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #606 - January 30, 2017, 06:45 AM

    This is the thing I was talking about earlier about the difference between chaotic moral and lawful immoral.


    I wasn't making a moral argument, I was making a pragmatic one. The question we're grappling with is: Do the ends justify the means? I think the answer is "sometimes". But if the means don't have a chance of reaching the desired ends, then it is entirely irrelevant in the discussion of whether or not the ends justify the means. You have to have a reliable path from means to desired ends for the question to hold any weight, and if you don't, then it's a moot point. I think you may also be assuming that I am emotionally invested in this question. I'm not--that doesn't mean I'm emotionally invested in the opposite position of yours, either, I'm not emotionally invested in either side.


    The world is but a game of Dungeons and Dragons, and we can only watch as it is played around us. Got it.
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #607 - January 30, 2017, 06:52 AM

    The world is but a game of Dungeons and Dragons, and we can only watch as it is played around us. Got it.


    I personally have known from a very early age that the world is a very fucked up place. The evils of the world stopped shocking me a long time ago. But even if they haven't stopped shocking you, you have to learn to pick your battles. If you decide to rage about every injustice, you will always be in a state of rage and you'll die of a stroke at 40. If you instead choose to only rage about things you personally have control over and can change, you'll both be much more effective at dealing with the issues as they arise and will be more peaceful overall. There is always going to be another injustice, another crime, another terrorist attack, another denial of someone's rights, another person treated unfairly...as long as there are people, that's just the way it's going to be. Life sucks and then you die.

    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I have a sonic screwdriver, a tricorder, and a Type 2 phaser.
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #608 - January 30, 2017, 07:12 AM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/faisalislam/status/826037034426966016
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    US embassy in London issues notice saying visa issuance and appointments are cancelled for UK dual nationals of 7 EO banned countries

    https://mobile.twitter.com/copwatcher/status/826039663005724672
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    Boris' word isn't worth shit. Yet again


    US embassy contradicts British government claim that ‘Muslim ban’ doesn’t apply to UK citizens

    https://mobile.twitter.com/faisalislam/status/826049284957167617
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    But right now situation is that UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office says it knows more about White House thinking than US State Department

  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #609 - January 30, 2017, 07:23 AM

    I personally have known from a very early age that the world is a very fucked up place. The evils of the world stopped shocking me a long time ago. But even if they haven't stopped shocking you, you have to learn to pick your battles. If you decide to rage about every injustice, you will always be in a state of rage and you'll die of a stroke at 40. If you instead choose to only rage about things you personally have control over and can change, you'll both be much more effective at dealing with the issues as they arise and will be more peaceful overall. There is always going to be another injustice, another crime, another terrorist attack, another denial of someone's rights, another person treated unfairly...as long as there are people, that's just the way it's going to be. Life sucks and then you die.

    Your stoicism shames us all, I'm sure.

    Detachment from a situation does not spare anyone from its practical consequences, and neither does using "pick your battles" - an otherwise sound strategic maxim - to not merely refrain from a moral stance, but to excuse thiings as they are or have become. On the contrary; it makes one an easier target down the line.

    But then, it's a given from the above that your vision of politics won't really acknowledge that, so I'm wasting my time. Carry on.
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #610 - January 30, 2017, 07:48 AM


    Detachment from a situation does not spare anyone from its practical consequences


    No it doesn't. But what does spare people from the practical consequences of Donald Trump's personal politics is the constitution and in particular, the courts. Like I'd already mentioned, the travel ban has already been overturned in court. That's going to happen with most, if not all, of Trump's initiatives. Pragmatism may not give a way to spare anyone's emotional reactions to the world's problems, but it does provide a path around the problems. Trump decides to build a wall? People cross the border on roads instead of on foot. Trump halts immigration from specific countries? The courts strike it down. Trump bans American aid dollars going to international abortions? NGOs and other countries pick up the slack. Trump pulls out of the TPP? People write another trade deal or just rename it. Trump gives the go-ahead for the Keystone Pipeline? Tribal governments sue to shut it down.


    neither does using "pick your battles" - an otherwise sound strategic maxim - to not merely refrain from a moral stance, but to excuse thiings as they are or have become.


    How does not picking your battles when it comes to politics help? And who does it help? And what does it help? People have been raging at Trump for a long time, but it didn't help change the minds of most voters, so what do you do next, what's the next step? You (and by this I don't mean you personally, I mean it generally) can continue to rage, but it's obviously your own time you're wasting if most voters won't listen to you, so what is the next step from there?


    On the contrary; it makes one an easier target down the line.


    How?

    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I have a sonic screwdriver, a tricorder, and a Type 2 phaser.
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #611 - January 30, 2017, 07:52 AM

    Quote
    But what does spare people from the practical consequences of Donald Trump's personal politics is the constitution and in particular, the courts. Like I'd already mentioned, the travel ban has already been overturned in court. That's going to happen with most, if not all, of Trump's initiatives.


    https://mobile.twitter.com/JosephKay76/status/826036702212976641
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    "Checks and balances" aren't so much institutional as cultural - respect for democratic norms etc.

    Once they're ignored it's back to 'which side do the armed forces back?' pretty quickly.

  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #612 - January 30, 2017, 07:57 AM

    I haven't posted here in awhile, but the recent issue with the ban, and a debate with some people on facebook interested me in checking out the forum again.

    My take on this question is admittedly quite radical, and if my comments are not appropriate for the forum, I will not comment further.  Here is what I wrote earlier on this subject.


    Your comments are definitely very insightful, and on the whole I agree with them.

    Also, welcome back mate!

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #613 - January 30, 2017, 08:02 AM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JosephKay76/status/826036702212976641

    "Checks and balances" aren't so much institutional as cultural - respect for democratic norms etc.

    Once they're ignored it's back to 'which side do the armed forces back?' pretty quickly.



    I agree with this which is exactly why I think "not my president" protests are counterproductive. I thought they were counterproductive when they were done to Obama, I think they're counterproductive now that they're being done to Trump. I also think that justifying political violence (like punching people in an unprovoked attack) is dangerous. I haven't seen any indication from Trump that he does not wish to adhere to the cultural norm of balance of power. I just don't think he knows very much about the constitution and American law. I'm pretty sure once his pet projects get shut down by Congress and the courts, he'll back down from them and say "I tried to fulfill my promise to the voters, but congress/the court said no". Now if he does refuse to back down after his plans are rejected, THEN I'll start to call for his impeachment.

    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I have a sonic screwdriver, a tricorder, and a Type 2 phaser.
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #614 - January 30, 2017, 10:14 AM

    No it doesn't. But what does spare people from the practical consequences of Donald Trump's personal politics is the constitution and in particular, the courts. Like I'd already mentioned, the travel ban has already been overturned in court. That's going to happen with most, if not all, of Trump's initiatives. Pragmatism may not give a way to spare anyone's emotional reactions to the world's problems, but it does provide a path around the problems. Trump decides to build a wall? People cross the border on roads instead of on foot. Trump halts immigration from specific countries? The courts strike it down. Trump bans American aid dollars going to international abortions? NGOs and other countries pick up the slack. Trump pulls out of the TPP? People write another trade deal or just rename it. Trump gives the go-ahead for the Keystone Pipeline? Tribal governments sue to shut it down.

    For a self-declared hyper-pragmatist, you have a distinctly idealistic view of how institutions behave in changing circumstances. I'll leave it at that.

    How does not picking your battles when it comes to politics help? And who does it help? And what does it help? People have been raging at Trump for a long time, but it didn't help change the minds of most voters, so what do you do next, what's the next step? You (and by this I don't mean you personally, I mean it generally) can continue to rage, but it's obviously your own time you're wasting if most voters won't listen to you, so what is the next step from there?

    Subordinate clauses help lots of things. I shall write shorter sentences in future.

    How?

    To bring it back onto pragmatic ground: defence in depth is easier to achieve while the possibility of depth still exists.
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #615 - January 30, 2017, 10:53 AM

    Is this normal for US citizens? I understood this was relatively new for non-US passport holders, anyway:

    https://twitter.com/mikestanek/status/825808522634022915



    If this account (claiming to be from a White House insider) is real then Trump himself seems to be pushing the idea.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/825772359382626304
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    #UnholyTrinity frustrated with POTUS idea to screen visitors for websites they frequent, notiing that malicious actors would just lie. POTUS insists that if they don't confess sites, they'll be denied entry. Doesn't seem to recognize that there would be no way to know. Concern is that attempting a measure that is almost impos. to enforce will deepen public anger. POTUS believes people will "love it."


    From the same account.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/825908312784961536
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    Suspicion that Bannon urging POTUS to egg on protests, then call in National Guard to disperse, as demonstration of power.

    Do you think Bannon and POTUS are of one mind?  Or does POTUS just follow Bannon's lead?

    It's a complex dynamic. Bannon is effective at swaying POTUS with flattery and telling POTUS what he wants to hear. POTUS doesn't fully trust #UnholyTrinity , which is why he invented job for Bannon, who he sees as "his" guy. Bannon is POTUS' attempt to have a counterweight against #UnholyTrinity . He knows that Bannon trying to manipulate him but he thinks he can wield Bannon. POTUS needs #UnholyTrinity to govern, but needs Bannon in order to not lose power. Both are attempting to use each other.

    Under early morning advice from Bannon POTUS to push Spicer to accuse #MuslimBan protests of compromising national security.


    https://mobile.twitter.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/825372368180756482
    Quote
    POTUS was dismissive of PM May. "I hope she'll like us, but she doesn't have much to offer."

    Assessment is that a post Brexit PM May needs POTUS more than POTUS needs her. "She does what we want, or we go somewhere else."

  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #616 - January 30, 2017, 11:29 AM

    Twitter threads

    Executive Order on new regulations: https://mobile.twitter.com/amaditalks/status/826090251357736961

    On this 'Bannon's a Leninist' thing: https://mobile.twitter.com/JosephKay76/status/826100854109401088
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #617 - January 30, 2017, 11:31 AM

    These guys protesting Trump are so lame.

    https://youtu.be/evN5q2oKnVo

    "Build a wall. Why would you build a wall?"

    Duh...What a dumbass.

    Trump has shown integrity here by doing two things he campaigned on, the Mexico wall and a ban on Muslims.
    We may not agree it's a good policy, but we should commend him on sticking to his word, something most (career) politicians do not seem to care about as much.

    Democracy is a pretty sweet deal for the left (they cannot really win in any other system given they are too weak and irrational/illogical) and so I don't think it makes sense for them to disrespect it and disrespect those who voted for Trump/Brexit by protesting in this way.

    The left is behaving like a typical woman, not capable of understanding the importance of high-level things such as the democratic process and integrity. It's all about how they feel, how much attention they can get and then they resort to personal attacks when their illogical arguments are challenged.


  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #618 - January 30, 2017, 11:35 AM

    These guys protesting Trump are so lame.

    https://youtu.be/evN5q2oKnVo

    "Build a wall. Why would you build a wall?"

    Duh...What a dumbass.

    Trump has shown integrity here by doing two things he campaigned on, the Mexico wall and a ban on Muslims.
    We may not agree it's a good policy, but we should commend him on sticking to his word, something most (career) politicians do not seem to care about as much.

    Democracy is a pretty sweet deal for the left (they cannot really win in any other system given they are too weak and irrational/illogical) and so I don't think it makes sense for them to disrespect it and disrespect those who voted for Trump/Brexit by protesting in this way.

    The left is behaving like a typical woman, not capable of understanding the importance of high-level things such as the democratic process and integrity. It's all about how they feel, how much attention they can get and then they resort to personal attacks when their illogical arguments are challenged.

    Delete  that,  that is not right thing to say  that is silly and stupid  

    with best regards
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #619 - January 30, 2017, 11:48 AM

    Why not? What happened to free speech? It's just my opinion based on observations and I accept it could be wrong. That doesn't mean I cannot say it.

    It's not my fault they called it a Women's March, and then acted all stupid and disrespectful.
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #620 - January 30, 2017, 12:09 PM

    Why not? What happened to free speech? It's just my opinion based on observations and I accept it could be wrong. That doesn't mean I cannot say it.

      I suggested  as  a friend to delete  it., you  do have freedom to express and act stupid  but I will question your stupidity  dear atheiststani ..

    so now explain me this in your post


    The left is behaving like a typical woman, not capable of understanding the importance of high-level things such as the democratic process and integrity.  


      what is TYPICAL WOMAN not capable of understanding the importance of high-level things ....  who says woman  cannot understand democratic process and integrity.  Is that not nonsense??

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #621 - January 30, 2017, 12:32 PM

    Twitter thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/erikaheidewald/status/825962010269491200
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    There are reports of customs asking citizens if they're Christian, detaining Mexican green card holders, & looking at people's social media.

  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #622 - January 30, 2017, 01:23 PM

    Theresa May was told about ban in advance: https://mobile.twitter.com/b_judah/status/826127573809758209
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #623 - January 30, 2017, 02:15 PM

    The left is behaving like a typical woman, not capable of understanding the importance of high-level things such as the democratic process and integrity. It's all about how they feel, how much attention they can get and then they resort to personal attacks when their illogical arguments are challenged.


    SMITE 1: gross sexism.

    Another smite results in a ban.
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #624 - January 30, 2017, 02:18 PM

    Is Donald Trump just a pawn in Steve Bannon's game?
    Quote
    It’s just one piece of Bannon’s ideological game of chess, rewiring the media landscape to clear the path for a radical reimagining of conservative politics in line with his own nationalist agenda. The president himself, Bannon has admitted in the past, is just one piece of the puzzle. Trump is a “blunt instrument for us,” Bannon told Ken Stern for Vanity Fair last summer. “I don’t know whether he really gets it or not.”

  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #625 - January 30, 2017, 02:44 PM

    These guys protesting Trump are so lame.

    https://youtu.be/evN5q2oKnVo

    "Build a wall. Why would you build a wall?"

    Duh...What a dumbass.

    Trump has shown integrity here by doing two things he campaigned on, the Mexico wall and a ban on Muslims.
    We may not agree it's a good policy, but we should commend him on sticking to his word, something most (career) politicians do not seem to care about as much.

    Democracy is a pretty sweet deal for the left (they cannot really win in any other system given they are too weak and irrational/illogical) and so I don't think it makes sense for them to disrespect it and disrespect those who voted for Trump/Brexit by protesting in this way.

    The left is behaving like a typical woman, not capable of understanding the importance of high-level things such as the democratic process and integrity. It's all about how they feel, how much attention they can get and then they resort to personal attacks when their illogical arguments are challenged.





    The left are the ones who will stand up for you if you are "Muslim looking" and have a "Muslim sounding" name which causes you to be targeted by these policies. It's what they are doing now, in fact. And having principles is not the same as being weak.

    It is their democratic right to protest. At least they are making a bigger difference than those who are comfortably criticising behind their computer screens. I'm sure it's not you who those Iranian green card holders and scientists who were finally allowed to come back in and get on with their lives will be thanking.
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #626 - January 30, 2017, 03:06 PM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/devchelle/status/826143714947059712
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    @RoguePOTUSStaff there are rumors of anti LGBT EO coming.  Can you shed light on that?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RoguePOTUSStaff/status/826153579991937026
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    Rumors are true. Expect by end of the week.

  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #627 - January 30, 2017, 04:30 PM

    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/01/sources-report-trump-executive-order-lgbtq-community-coming-soon/
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    An executive order from President Donald Trump opening up discrimination against the LGBTQ community on the basis of religious belief is expected sometime this week, possibly as soon as today.

    Several sources spoke with LGBTQ Nation on the condition of anonymity who have told us that the order will allow for discrimination in a number of areas, including employment, social services, business, and adoption.

    From what we’ve heard, the executive order could be far-reaching, and could include: making taxpayer funds available for discrimination against LGBTQ people in social services; allow federally funded adoption agencies to discriminate against LGBTQ parents; eliminate non-discrimination protections in order to make it possible to fire federal employers and contractors based on their sexual orientation or gender identity; and allow federal employees to refuse to serve people based on the belief that marriage should be between a man and a woman, and that gender is an immutable characteristic set at birth, which would impact a broad range of federal benefits.

    The order is expected to come in the packaging of so-called “religious freedom,” which argues that someone’s religious beliefs should be enough to prevent them from having to provide goods and services to members of the LGBTQ community if doing so would conflict with said beliefs.
    ....

  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #628 - January 30, 2017, 04:54 PM

    Thread on Steve Bannon: https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/steve-bannon.349046/
  • Donald Trump wants to ban Muslims from America
     Reply #629 - January 30, 2017, 07:12 PM

    Is this normal for US citizens? I understood this was relatively new for non-US passport holders, anyway:

    https://twitter.com/mikestanek/status/825808522634022915



    Law enforcement has used tactics such as the authority of their position to trick people into consenting to something the authority figures can not get without further legal warrants.
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