what is happening here?? hmm back to Zem zem? (Ha, haha, hahahah)
mundi .. Altara turns their attention to that good old city ....... Aelia Capitolina.... Aelia.. Iliyā'...Yerushalayim ...Al-Quds... Bayt al-Maqdis.. . from the god Shalim......the city..the Jerusalem
...Hierousalēm,...Ūrišlem ... whatever..
What is their name?? it is just a name.. anyway let me read mundi .. Altara posts again..
Ilia as the mint of Jerusalem:
Lot's of weird coins appeared end 7th C apparently. Some refer to the new Zion, some have 7 or 5 arm menorahs on, some have other biblical symbols. Popp seees that period theologically in competition with Constantinople... he might be on to something.
It is not strange, it is logic. To get it you have to put aside the how the narrative says from where Arabs Umayyad are. Because it is inexact. They are from a place where Jerusalem was called Aelia.
The Roman name of the city, before the Christianization of the Empire. Whose Īliyā is the Arabic form kept by the Umayyad (they knew no other name). They only knew this one. Because it was the common name where they were. So, who used it, and in what place? Zem zem? (Ha, haha, hahahah, etc.)
So on those highlighted words of Altara post
"They are from a place where Jerusalem was called Aelia."
who are "THEY"
dear Altara ?
Are you saying "Umayyads"
were actually from that city itself??
If you consider Umayyad Caliphates were from Jerusalem
., then I wonder about these guys "Muawiya I., Yazid I ., Muawiya II"
Who were they ? who were their parents....pets.. wives.. children??
Are they products of Roman-Arab Pagans?? or Roman-Jewish folks??
that will be a new history on the origin of Islam WITHOUT PROPHET OF ISLAM "Muhammad"