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 Topic: DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement

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  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     OP - March 21, 2014, 03:46 PM

    http://vimeo.com/89462663

    They are 2 recordings from iERA webinars in which they discuss that their old arguments aren't working as more people are countering it
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #1 - March 21, 2014, 04:14 PM

    They have the audacity to use the term "pseudo-academics".... Oh the irony...

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #2 - March 21, 2014, 04:34 PM

     eusa_boohoo
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #3 - March 21, 2014, 04:44 PM

    Can't really expect much from Dawah circles like these who currently believe that "the hard problem of consciousness" is reason enough to believe in Allah.

    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #4 - March 21, 2014, 04:45 PM

    They have the audacity to use the term "pseudo-academics".... Oh the irony...


    Lol  Cheesy

    Me: Hey Allah!
    Allah: KAFIR!
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #5 - March 21, 2014, 04:47 PM

    Can't really expect much from Dawah circles like these who currently believe that "the hard problem of consciousness" is reason enough to believe in Allah.


    I'm glad ppl are beginning to realize the clever tactics of dawaganda.

    Me: Hey Allah!
    Allah: KAFIR!
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #6 - March 21, 2014, 04:55 PM

    @T.M.M.T

    I should have all the audio clips compiled by Sunday night. I have to edit my latest YT video on top of that (& work on top of that) :L

    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #7 - March 21, 2014, 04:58 PM

    @Qtian

    Okay  Afro

    Me: Hey Allah!
    Allah: KAFIR!
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #8 - March 21, 2014, 05:01 PM

    I should have kept watching it. The Rationalizer is an "atheist apologist," and CEMB makes an appearance.  Grin

    Watch out, guys. They're going to be intellectually just this time around. They're going to create a more better narrative.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #9 - March 21, 2014, 05:03 PM

    MORE BETTER?

    COME ON lua! WE MUST BE BETTER THAN THIS

    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #10 - March 21, 2014, 05:33 PM

    Inshallah, we will be the most best.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #11 - March 21, 2014, 05:41 PM

    The caliphate will be resurrected with Sheik Anjem choudary as the caliph i'A.

    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #12 - March 21, 2014, 06:01 PM


    Da'wah is lies, and they are liars. Nothing they can say, no matter how slick the dawah propaganda, or 'narrative', will change that. Liars will fool some tiny miniscule amount of vulnerable people who have good natures and are easily fooled, or people who want to be fooled, but in this day and age, in this society when dawah liars have no way to enforce society into silence (unlike in Islamic countries), liars will simply always be exposed as liars. Its as simple as that. Liars are liars and will always be seen to be liars, and lies will be exposed as lies.

    So, its like King Canute trying to hold back the tide of the sea. Its impossible. Tzortzis and the other clown are doomed to a lifetime of lying, and scratching their heads about why the world laughs at them, ignores them, because the world sees through dawah lies.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #13 - March 21, 2014, 06:02 PM

    Hi billy boy

    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #14 - March 21, 2014, 06:07 PM

    I'd be concerned too if I was on the always-losing side.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #15 - March 21, 2014, 06:09 PM

    What billy said. They are going to eventually find their backs against the wall, and will only be able to employ an emotional plea to make Islam seem brighter than the rest.

    There's simply nothing of substance on their side, and they're realizing that they can't use most of their prized tricks anymore without fear of them backfiring.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #16 - March 21, 2014, 06:50 PM

    Why do they have to say "Brothers and sisters" so much Smiley
    I don't have problem with saying that but basically every sentence is just way too much.

    I ask many stupid questions frequently.
    I am curious, that's why I ask many questions.
    I am overly curious, that's why I ask stupid questions.
    I lack patience, that's why I ask frequently.
    So forgive me and answer me Smiley
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #17 - March 21, 2014, 06:53 PM

    Fake and superficial "piety". It's all a show. They think they sound like better people or more pious.

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #18 - March 21, 2014, 06:57 PM

    some are really sincere tho, i think some really believe in what they doing and the message Smiley. I guess they just wearing rose color glasses, for them islam is beautiful, everything else id not

    "I Knew who I was this morning, but I've changed a few times since then." Alice in wonderland

    "This is the only heaven we have how dare you make it a hell" Dr Marlene Winell
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #19 - March 21, 2014, 06:59 PM

    Yep, the sincerity of followers has no impact upon the soundness of Islamic claims. Someone could be sincere in his belief of flying pigs, it doesn't change the fact that we have never observed flying pigs.

    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #20 - March 21, 2014, 07:00 PM

    No, you're right confusedango, I know that not all people fake and pretend. Sorry for the generalization Smiley

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #21 - March 21, 2014, 07:03 PM

    no problem Smiley i might b a bit sensitive coz my broter is a dawahman (runs and hides away)

    "I Knew who I was this morning, but I've changed a few times since then." Alice in wonderland

    "This is the only heaven we have how dare you make it a hell" Dr Marlene Winell
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #22 - March 21, 2014, 07:04 PM

    It's important to note that theism & positive atheism are unfalsifiable positions. A claim is only a good claim when it is falsifiable.
    "God exists" is not a good claim.

    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #23 - March 21, 2014, 07:14 PM

    eusa_boohoo

     Cheesy

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #24 - March 21, 2014, 07:52 PM

    It's important to note that theism & positive atheism are unfalsifiable positions. A claim is only a good claim when it is falsifiable.
    "God exists" is not a good claim.

    Well, no, if a god actually existed, it'd be easy to show atheism to be false.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #25 - March 21, 2014, 07:53 PM

    That's based on a conditional though isn't it?  Positive atheism is saying that "God doesn't exist" since we can't prove it's counter proposition we can't really disprove/prove that. The best we can do is show the illogic behind it imho.

    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #26 - March 21, 2014, 07:58 PM

    Stating that a God doesn't exist invites the onus probandi onto yourself.  Relating the lack of a evidence to the existence of a God is not currently a positive statement.  This is where positive (I hate to use the word gnostic) atheism differs from atheism on its own.

    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #27 - March 21, 2014, 08:03 PM

    What do anal probes have to do with it?  Huh?

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #28 - March 21, 2014, 08:04 PM

     Cheesy

    Dude, onus not anus Tongue

    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • DawahMan & Hamza Tzortzis concerned about the Counter-Dawahganda Movement
     Reply #29 - March 21, 2014, 08:06 PM

    Hey I can't help it if you make typos. Cheesy

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
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