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  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #30 - April 27, 2014, 11:40 PM


    That semi bearded fool acting as if he is a sociologist says  "It is parental choice to send the kids there respective religions"  The fool doesn't seem to read and realize recent  problem  with religious nut cases. Once you make   that as parental choice, you will end up with  a religious segregated schools  in a secular society and consequently the society will have ghettos., add mosque.   Add  fiery bearded   Islamic Arabic orator as religious teacher what will have in hand is plenty  of brainless  brain washed introvert kids with terrible anger management problem.

    Some one should hit on the head of that IDIOT and tell him "NO IT IS NOT PARENTAL CHOICE" it is the choice of school board and get rid stupid religious classes beyond 6th grade unless the foolish kids wants to become madarssa teacher.. Teach religion as part of history..

    http://tarekfatah.com/tag/islamism/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noOPNkxQE9M

    there are good videos at that link on that problem

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TYfGenPhW0

    That fellow is one of the product of faith based school education..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #31 - April 28, 2014, 05:06 PM

    Faith schools should be phased out by the government, not promoted.  finmad

    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
     Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
     Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
     Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God." - Epicurus
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #32 - June 07, 2014, 05:52 PM

    Trojan horse school damned in Ofsted report

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    Exclusive: Park View academy to be told that not enough done to combat extremism

    Park View academy, the Birmingham secondary school at the centre of the alleged Islamist plot known as Trojan horse, will be told next week that it has failed to adequately warn its pupils about extremism and that staff are intimidated by the school's leadership.

    A controversial Ofsted report ordered by Michael Gove and leaked to the Guardian will highlight that one of the reasons why the school – previously rated outstanding – will be downgraded to inadequate is that teachers have not received enough training in the government's anti-extremism Prevent programme.

    Ofsted's report, due to be published with those into a further 20 Birmingham schools on Monday, says: "The academy is not doing enough to keep students safe, including raising students' awareness of the risks of extremism."

    Park View is one of five mainly Muslim schools expected to receive Ofsted's lowest rating, following an incendiary series of inquiries that has prompted criticism of Gove from the home secretary, Theresa May, and led to David Cameron ordering an inquiry into the political fallout.

    The school rejected the findings of the Ofsted report as driven by media coverage of the Trojan horse letter, which alleged that there had been a longstanding attempt by conservative Islamists to hijack school governing bodies. There are doubts that the letter itself is genuine.

    Other key findings by the Ofsted inspectors include:

    • External speakers, such as those who speak to students as part of a programme of Islamic-themed assemblies, are not vetted and pupils not taught how to use the internet safely.

    • Students are not prepared properly for life in a diverse and multicultural society.

    • Staff feel intimidated and fearful of speaking out, while some believe the governors involve themselves inappropriately in the running of the school.

    • Sex and relationship education is ineffective, with students not well supported in understanding how to protect themselves from bullying.

    Among Ofsted's recommendations are that the school's management must "urgently improve systems for safeguarding students", including greater use of the government's Prevent anti-extremism strategy, and secure "equality of opportunity for all staff and students".

    While the Ofsted report seen by the Guardian provides no evidence of extremist behaviour, it says students' understanding of the arts, different cultures and other beliefs are limited. "This, together with their superficial understanding of how to stay safe and awareness of life in different parts of the United Kingdom, mean that students are not well prepared for life in wider society," it says.

    The highly critical report comes after an initial visit by the inspection team on 5 and 6 March made only mild criticisms of the school. But inspectors returned two weeks later, initially citing concerns about online safety.

    The dramatic reversal of Park View's rating comes two years after the school was feted for its high performance in GCSEs, with nearly 80% of pupils gaining the benchmark of five good grades, including English and maths. The school, in the Birmingham inner-city suburb of Alum Rock, has a pupil intake that is 98% Muslim.

    Park View's results in recent years have been outstanding for a disadvantaged inner-city comprehensive, given the 70% of pupils who receive pupil premium funding, a government programme targeted at students from deprived backgrounds. Two years ago Ofsted's then newly appointed chief inspector Sir Michael Wilshaw, visited and praised the school, highlighting its exam results.

    Park View said Ofsted made "absolutely no suggestion, nor did they find any evidence, that Park View schools either promote or tolerate extremism or radicalisation".

    The Park View educational trust, which manages the school, said: "Park View works with the Prevent team and students across the school on preventing violent extremism and addressing the risks of being groomed towards having a right-wing ideology. The Prevent team have been welcomed without restriction into Park View School and have done more work here than with many other schools."

    The school also sought to defend itself against the finding that a "significant number of staff" who told Ofsted they lacked confidence in the school leadership. The trust said: "In common with many schools we have challenges around recruitment, staff pay and progression and change associated with academy conversion.

    "However, Park View's continued strong achievements across all subjects is a barometer of strong teaching methods and generally contented staff. A disillusioned workforce would soon result in standards slipping."

    It has emerged that in earlier drafts, the Ofsted inspectors did back down on a number of more controversial claims about the school. A draft copy of the report said: "The school has allowed an external speaker, with known extremist views, to speak to students as part of a programme of Islamic-themed assemblies."

    That reference, removed from the final version, is presumed to be a reference to Shady Asuleiman, an Australian Muslim who spoke at a school assembly. The reference appears to have disappeared after the school complained that Asuleiman had been granted visas by the Home Office, had spoken at several other schools and universities, and that the government Prevent team did not regard him as an extremist. The subject of Asuleiman's talk was time management.

    A suggestion that pupils were not taught enough about homophobia was also removed from Ofsted's final version after the school provided evidence that pupils were given lessons that addressed different views on homosexuality and were taught that homophobic comments or bullying were unacceptable.

    Ofsted's inspectors appear to have taken a harder line than the Department for Education's own inspection team, which completed its report in April.

    A copy of the DfE report – which has circulated within government – refers to the Asuleiman visits, and notes: "[Park View] has no policy in place to vet external speakers, although this is in keeping with a number of other schools." The DfE inspectors, in a report that has not been made public, also wrote: "There was no evidence to suggest a strict Islamic dress code was being enforced."

    Both Ofsted and the EFA reports make claims that have been challenged by the school. Both inspectors note that there is gender segregation within classes. The school said that the higher GCSE grades achieved by girls was evidence that they were not victims of discrimination. The EFA report noted: "We also observed lessons where boys and girls were mixed. Boys and girls are taught separately for PE lessons, which is not unusual."



    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #33 - June 07, 2014, 05:59 PM

    Oh wow, the Mail contacted our very own Saif Rahman.

    The Trojan Horse files: In their own words, the disturbing views of teachers at the heart of the row over extremism in schools

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    Park View School teacher Inam Ul Haq Anwar backs Islamic extremists on Facebook

    Staff member Abid Ali advocates women and girls should wear the veil

    Birmingham school is at centre of 'Trojan Horse' takeover plot allegations


    On his Facebook page, Inam Ul Haq Anwar doesn’t call himself a senior teacher at Park View School, which is a large secondary in the multi-cultural Small Heath area that’s just east of Birmingham city centre.

    Instead, the heavily-bearded head of department describes his profession much more grandly — as an ‘architect  of minds’.

    If you were to spend a few minutes, as I have, browsing his Facebook profile, you would get a very clear idea of what motivates him to fulfil this remit.

    Like most of the 600-plus pupils he teaches, Anwar is Muslim.

    Deeply religious, he posts regular comments about Islamic practices and protocols, points readers to website articles supportive of Islam, and often quotes from the Koran.

    He also appears to be highly political. In recent weeks, Anwar has condemned incursions by Israel into Arab-controlled Gaza (which he describes as ‘our Holocaust’), criticised U.S. drone attacks in Pakistan and made pointed attacks on Ukip’s ‘retard’ leader Nigel Farage.

    On another occasion, he strayed into yet more contentious territory: posting two outspoken messages voicing support for an individual who was appearing in court charged with  terror offences.

    ‘We need everyone to make dua [pray] that [the alleged terrorist] is released and that Allah Almighty alleviates him from this suffering,’ read one, posted on the eve of the hearing.

    The following day, after a court ruling, Anwar commented: ‘Know this was not the Judge’s decision, nor the corrupt Establishment’s. Or anyone else’s for that matter. This was Allah jalla wa’ala’s decision.’





    He then posted a lengthy quote from the Koran, advising: ‘No matter how great the setback, the struggle between truth and falsehood, justice and injustice, must continue.’

    This wasn’t the first time that this teacher, or ‘architect of minds’, had voiced support for an alleged  Islamic extremist. Just before Christmas, he took to Facebook to celebrate the ‘great news’ that a bookshop owner from Birmingham nicknamed ‘Abu Bakr’ was to be released early from prison.

    ‘May Allah make it easy for  all those that have been wrongly imprisoned. Ameen!’ he declared.

    Abu Bakr, whose real name is Ahmed Faraz, has been frequently described as ‘the terrorists’ favourite bookseller,’ because of the extremist literature his store sells, and the fact its customers have included the leaders of the 7/7 London bomb plot.

    He was jailed in 2011 after being convicted of 11 counts of possessing and disseminating terrorist publications. However, he was released last year after winning an appeal on a legal technicality — the development Anwar was applauding.

    All of which begs a simple question: should a teacher charged with shaping the minds of 600 impressionable Muslim schoolchildren be publicly supporting alleged extremists?

    ‘Certainly not,’ says Saif Rahman, of the centrist Humanist and Cultural Muslim Association.

    ‘These are the words of a firebrand. Looking at this guy’s Facebook feed, it rings alarm bells. If he’s saying stuff like this in public, one can only imagine what he’s saying to the kids he teaches in private.’

    Indeed one can. But Anwar’s comments are all the more disturbing because his place of work, Park View School, is currently at the centre of the hugely contentious ‘Trojan Horse’ affair.

    The scandal — in which a cabal of Muslim extremists is alleged to have taken over the running of Birmingham primary and secondary schools, and ‘Islamicised’ their syllabuses — has dominated the news agenda this week.

    This is partly due to an explosive dispute between Education Secretary Michael Gove and Home Secretary Theresa May over whose department is most to blame for failing to thwart the extremists.

    Next week, the row will continue to simmer thanks to the publication of the first of three separate public inquiries into the affair, by the schools inspectorate Ofsted.

    Until now, coverage has focused on hard-line governors — with an investigation in the Mail last Saturday detailing how they are said to have driven out non-Muslim teachers at a string of schools.

    Our report told how, once the alleged ‘Trojan Horse’ plotters took control of governing bodies, there were reports of segregation in classrooms, banning of mixed PE, swimming lessons, drama and music lessons, and altering of syllabuses to bring religious education, biology, and sex education in line with conservative Islamic teachings.

    Extremist preachers have been invited to address assemblies, girls have been encouraged to wear the veil, and, at Park View School, teenage boys have been informed in a sex education class that husbands are entitled to rape  their wives.

    Today’s second Mail investigation raises further serious questions.

    Our research suggests that the schools are employing a network of young male teachers who share highly conservative — some might say extreme — Islamic views.

    Several anti-extremist organisations, which have seen these teachers’ Facebook posts, believe they raise questions over whether many of the men (including Inam Ul Haq Anwar) ought to be in a position of influence over impressionable teenagers.

    Douglas Murray, of the respected Henry Jackson Society think-tank, commented: ‘It is scandalous that somebody who describes himself as “an architect of minds” should also be somebody who supports such men as Abu Bakr.’

    ‘Did he share his apparent extremism with the pupils whose minds he was claiming to mould?

    ‘Did he seek to influence them in the classroom?’

    These questions will only become more pressing when Ofsted’s report is published early next week. It is believed to have found evidence of malpractice in at least 16 Birmingham schools.

    At least six are expected to be placed in ‘special measures’. This is the most serious form of sanction available and allows Ofsted to replace teachers and governors, and even shut down a school.

    One of those six is Park View School, where a welter of apparent malpractice has been reported over recent weeks by the Press. There have been reports of the deliberate ‘Islamicisation’ of GCSE syllabuses and of teenagers being taught that homosexuality is evil.

    During religious education classes, pupils have allegedly been given lists of Christian teachers and told to try to convert them.

    Senior staff stand accused — by a former teacher — of preaching ‘mind-blowing’ anti-western propaganda in assemblies.

    Given this backdrop, the attitudes, loyalties, and political views that head of department Inam Ul Haq Anwar and some of his teaching colleagues see fit to express via Facebook make sobering reading.

    Take, for example, Abid Ali, the head of extra-curricular activities at the school, where staff have been accused of forcing teenage girls to wear headscarves. Last month, Ali (who has a traditional Islamic long, flowing beard) posted a quote from the Koran to justify the use of Islamic dress.

    He said: ‘Allah commanded the believing women to drape their garments over themselves, in order that they be known and not harmed, and to put their head scarves over their chests.’

    Just five days earlier — the same day that a preliminary copy of Ofsted’s damning report into Park View was passed to the school — Ali declared: ‘Ofsted are corrupt.’

    The previous week, he had posted a flyer advertising an ‘interesting’ public meeting in Birmingham where parents would discuss ‘raising Muslim children in the West’. It advised that ‘segregation will be observed’ at the event. The flyer went on to say: ‘It is only natural that as parents we seek to protect our children from the values of secular culture by inculcating within our children the pristine values of Islam.’

    Doubtless Ali — who has also called on Facebook for alcohol to be ‘banned’ — does his bit to instil these ‘pristine values’ in pupils under his command.

    Further insight into this teacher’s political leanings can be gleaned from a BBC news article he posted on Facebook last year about pornography being discovered on parliamentary computers in Westminster.

    Alongside the post, Ali commented that such immoral behaviour was a further justification for Muslim women to wear veils. He began by asking: ‘Why would women choose to wear a veil?’

    Then he continued: ‘Because we have sick perverted men hiding behind their ties pretending they respect women and advocate for women’s rights. But deep down they are sick and corrupt.’

    Last summer, meanwhile, Ali published a series of punchy comments about global affairs.

    One, posted while he was taking a group of children from Park View on a boating holiday, advised that he was closely watching events in Egypt, where the elected government of the Muslim Brotherhood had just been deposed in a coup by army chief Abdel Fattah al-Sisi.

    Ali said: ‘All that occupys [sic] my mind is the reality, the hypocrisy, the mentality of the western world, and the brutality of Sisi and the way muslims [sic] are being killed.

    ‘We need a muslim khalifa [movement]. Where the people will be those of imaan [faith] and will be prepared to defend our muslim ummah [nation]. One ummah. Mohammed’s ummah. One deep islam. Fighting to save our religion from the zalims [tyrants].’

    Of course, Ali’s posts — and those of his colleague Anwar — would have readily been accessible by Park View School’s headteacher, Mozz Hussain, who is ‘friends’ of both on the online social media site (but does not use Facebook to share his own political or social opinions).

    Another teacher at Park View who uses Facebook is Saqqib Malik, the school’s head of history. He is ‘friends’ with  a controversial extremist preacher called Shekih Shady Al Suleiman.

    It has been widely reported that, last November, Park View organised an ‘extended Islamic assembly’ for pupils with the preacher, who has called on God to ‘destroy the enemies of Islam’.

    Al-Suleiman has also asked God to ‘give victory to the Muslims in Afghanistan and Chechnya,’ to ‘give victory to all the Mujahideen all over the world’ and to ‘prepare us for the jihad’.

    Park View’s School’s PR agency, Communitas, did not comment when provided with details of the social media activity of senior staff. And none of the teachers named above has responded to our invitation to discuss their posts.

    Park View school’s staff are not the only ones at the centre of the ‘Trojan Horse’ inquiry to be spreading contentious views on Facebook, though.

    A similar phenomenon can be seen at nearby Oldknow (an academy primary school in Small Heath), which is also under investigation and is expected imminently to be put into ‘special measures’ by Ofsted.

    Here, Department for Education officials are reported to have found that some teachers led anti-Christian chanting in assemblies, banned the celebration of Christmas and stopped children from learning French because the country has banned the Islamic veil.

    The school denies allegations of extremism. This week, teacher Samir Rauf told Channel 4 News that Ofsted had come into the school ‘with an agenda’.

    However, Rauf is a member of a Facebook group entitled ‘Free Babar Ahmad’, dedicated to supporting the London-born extremist who was extradited to the U.S. and imprisoned last year, after pleading guilty to ‘conspiracy and providing material support to terrorism’.

    Meanwhile, in February, Oldknow’s deputy principal, Mazhar Hussain Al Maazari, used Facebook to post an unforgiving comment calling for Muslims to disown those who leave the faith: ‘Do not love the one who does not love Allah,’ it read. ‘If they can leave Allah, they will leave you.’

    The nature of such statements, made with apparent abandon by teachers entrusted with the education of young minds is profoundly worrying to anti-extremist campaigners, who rightly stress that they in no way reflect the peaceful views of the vast majority of British Muslims.

    Saif Rahman, of the Humanist and Cultural Muslim Association, called last night for a further probe into the teachers whose Facebook feeds we  have highlighted.

    ‘These comments speak to an environment where things have gone deeply wrong,’ he says.

    ‘They do not reflect the views of most progressive Muslims, and questions must be asked about how people making them are allowed to occupy senior positions in state-funded schools.’


    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #34 - June 07, 2014, 06:10 PM

    And this is note worthy enough that I'll also add it.

    School at centre of 'Trojan Horse' plot paid private eyes to snoop on staff e-mails, inspectors found

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    Governors at Saltley School in Birmingham criticised in Ofsted report
    Accused of spending 'substantial amounts of money with no obvious benefit' on consultants and lawyers
    Michael Gove due to address Commons after report published on Monday


    A school at the centre of an alleged ‘Trojan Horse’ Islamist plot paid private detectives to snoop on staff emails, inspectors have found.

    Governors at Saltley School are accused in an Ofsted report of spending ‘substantial amounts of money with no obvious benefit’ including on consultants and lawyers.

    Some faculty members complained to inspectors they were ‘treated unequally because of their beliefs, religion or background’.

    The Birmingham school – where the head was allegedly forced out by conservative Muslim governors – is almost certain to be placed in special measures.

    It is among six expected to be given Ofsted’s lowest possible rating next week when the watchdog publishes the findings of its investigations into 21 Birmingham schools.  Michael Gove is expected to remove heads or governors of schools where inspectors have identified concerns.

    The Education Secretary will address the Commons on Monday – after Ofsted has released the results of its three-month inquiry.

    Staff will be asked to take training programmes to help them combat radicalisation and extremism.

    The Ofsted reports are likely to disclose that some schools are narrowing the curriculum even to the extent that music is being banned.

    The mass inspections followed the emergence of a letter purporting to describe a five-step ‘Trojan Horse’ strategy for imposing a hardline Islamic agenda on state schools. While its authenticity is disputed, the claims themselves have been taken seriously and are being studied in depth.

    Sir Michael Wilshaw, the head of Ofsted, will highlight a series of concerns about practices in some of the schools, including unequal treatment of boys and girls, a narrow curriculum that denies pupils a rounded education and governors intent on changing the character of schools.

    A separate Department for Education investigation found evidence of girls being forced to sit at the back and sides of classrooms and GCSE subjects being restricted ‘to comply with conservative Islamic teaching’.

    Ofsted’s report on Saltley School, which was leaked to BBC West Midlands, contains criticism of governors’ use of school funds, saying they ‘paid private investigators to interrogate [sic] the emails of senior staff’ and has ‘spent substantial amounts of money with no obvious benefit’.



    Governance of the school was judged inadequate. ‘Many of the governors refuse to accept that the school is in a state of crisis,’ it is claimed.

    Birmingham City Council, which is accused of being slow to respond to the school’s decline, refused to comment yesterday. Balwant Bains, the school’s non-Muslim head, resigned late last year.

    An Ofsted inspection shortly before he stepped down criticised a ‘dysfunctional relationship’ between him and the governors. The school has strongly denied any suggestion that Mr Bains was forced out.

    Birmingham council’s investigation into the Trojan Horse claims will be released next month along with a separate inquiry by Peter Clarke, Scotland Yard’s former counter-terrorism chief.

    ... as another school in Trojan Horse scandal offers lessons in holy war

    Teenagers are being taught jihad at one of the schools implicated in the Trojan Horse scandal.

    Lessons at Park View School in Birmingham suggest it can be justifiable for Muslims to take up arms in a holy war and that jihadists suffer from negative stereotyping in the media.

    The school’s website describes how a lesson is devoted to jihad under a section on ‘Living The Muslim Life’. Pupils study topics such as ‘what is a just war?’, ‘when can Muslims take up arms?’ and ‘conditions of jihad’.

    Park View claims to follow Edexcel’s religious studies GCSE syllabus but referring to stereotyping and just wars, an Edexcel spokesman said: ‘The content in question is not represented in our specification … Schools do have the choice to add to the defined syllabus.’

    The researcher who alerted the Department of Education, and asked not to be named, said: ‘Muslim children aren’t being given a fair chance to become part of society with this.’

    A Park View spokesman said teaching is supported by Edexcel resources, adding: ‘This includes understanding the concepts of greater and lesser jihad and media representation.’


    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #35 - June 09, 2014, 01:50 PM

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    The evidence suggests three broad categories of school: in some schools, the inappropriate influence of governors is widespread and deep-rooted; in others, there are significant weaknesses in governance, but the level of undue influence exerted by individual governors is less established; in a few schools, leaders have successfully resisted the attempts of governors to change the nature and ethos of their school.


    Quote
    Her Majesty’s Inspectors found specific examples of family members being appointed to unadvertised senior leadership posts and candidates being appointed to senior leadership positions in spite of poor references and contrary to the wishes of the headteacher - Her Majesty’s Inspectors found that governors in some schools have sought to make or have made changes to policies and the curriculum on the basis of their own personal beliefs, irrespective of the school’s stated ethos and values. For example, in one primary school, governors opposed the headteacher’s commitment to mixed-gender swimming lessons. The Chair of Governors in another school, against the wishes of the headteacher, introduced madrasa programmes of study into the personal, health and social education curriculum.


    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2014/jun/09/ofsted-publishing-trojan-horse-plot-reports-and-michael-goves-statement-politics-live-blog

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #36 - June 09, 2014, 02:57 PM

    Trojan Horse Schools 'Covered Up Activities', Put On Christianity Lessons To Fool Inspectors

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    Schools investigated by officials looking into an alleged takeover plot by hard-line Muslims attempted to cover up their activities, according to damning findings revealed on Monday. David Cameron has ordered a "robust response" to the situation in Birmingham after investigations suggested some of the schools had attempted to fool inspectors by putting on "hastily arranged shows of cultural inclusivity", including in one case a religious education lesson on Christianity.

    Education watchdog Ofsted could step up its use of unannounced visits as a result of the findings and will also maintain a regular presence in the Birmingham schools involved, reporting directly to the Prime Minister and Education Secretary Michael Gove, who has been at the centre of a political storm over his handling of the so-called Trojan Horse plot.

    He was forced to apologise to the Prime Minister after a damaging feud with Home Secretary Theresa May, whose closest aide Fiona Cunningham had to resign following a bitter round of briefings and counter-briefings about efforts to combat extremism. Both ministers will attend a meeting with Cameron and a specially-called session of the cross-government extremism task force to deal with the Birmingham allegations.

    Ofsted reports into 21 schools triggered by the Trojan Horse allegations will be released by the watchdog, with a statement from the chief inspector of schools Sir Michael Wilshaw. The Education Funding Agency (EFA), which carried out parallel investigations to Ofsted in Birmingham, found evidence of efforts to persuade its inspectors that a wider range of religious teaching was on offer in at least one school.

    In response Gove has asked Sir Michael to look into the practicalities of making all schools subject to the possibility of no-notice inspections by Ofsted to stop the risk of future attempts to influence reports. The previous Ofsted inspections of five of the Trojan Horse schools, rated good or outstanding in 2012 and 2013 gave one or two days' notice.

    But this time round, when snap inspections were carried out with less than 30 minutes' notice, they were found to be inadequate. The Prime Minister said: "Protecting our children is one of the first duties of Government and that is why the issue of alleged Islamist extremism in Birmingham schools demands a robust response.

    "The Education Secretary will now ask Sir Michael Wilshaw to look into allowing any school to be inspected at no notice, stopping schools having the opportunity to cover up activities which have no place in our society." The EFA's report on Oldknow Academy in Small Heath will make clear that staff told inspectors "they had been instructed to add Christianity to learning because of our visit".

    The agency was told by two staff members that an assembly on Easter and Christianity had been put on "especially for our benefit" and a timetabled literacy lesson at the school was switched for a religious education lesson on Christianity, according to the report. As chief inspector of schools, Sir Michael already has the power to order no-notice inspections, but this is normally only used in cases of serious child safeguarding concerns.

    Gove said: "We have to ensure children are safe in our schools. Evidence uncovered in Birmingham clearly indicates that schools have used the notice they have been given of inspections to evade proper scrutiny. Sir Michael Wilshaw will now examine the practicalities of moving to a position where all schools know they may face an unannounced inspection. Our children need to be protected in schools, kept safe from the dangers of extremism and guaranteed a broad and balanced curriculum. This change will help provide parents with the reassurance they need."

    Cameron will meet senior ministers including Gove, May, Nick Clegg, George Osborne, Eric Pickles, Baroness Warsi and David Laws to discuss the situation in Downing Street. The Education Secretary will also make a statement to MPs in the House of Commons about the Ofsted investigations.

    Many of the key inspection findings from schools at the centre of the allegations have already been leaked to the media with at least five set to be placed in special measures. Three schools have already broken cover to say they have been given a clean bill of health, receiving ratings of either "good" or "outstanding".

    The allegations of Muslim extremism in Birmingham schools have sparked four separate investigations including by the Department for Education (DfE), Birmingham City Council and West Midlands Police. Earlier this year an undated and unsigned letter, now widely believed to be a hoax, was leaked to the media setting out a five-point plan dubbed Operation Trojan Horse for hard-line Muslims to seize control of schools by installing friendly governors, and forcing out uncooperative headteachers.

    Many in the Muslim community have expressed anger over the investigations, with staff at one of the schools inspected branding the inquiries nothing short of "a witch-hunt". Shadow education secretary Tristram Hunt blamed Gove's wider education reforms for the lack of local oversight of schools.

    He said: "This is an entirely weak and inadequate response by David Cameron to the gravity of the situation in Birmingham. What we're seeing in Birmingham is part of the systematic failings in the current school system. Cameron's schools policy has delivered a vacuum in the local oversight of our schools, leaving children exposed to falling standards and vulnerable to risks posed by extremists.

    "By refusing to address the inadequate checks in the schools system, Cameron reveals he is happy with the status quo. Labour has pledged to introduce new local directors of school standards to root out problems before they set in."


    So on the charge of fake RE lessons, I went to the school website and had a look at the RE curriculum. Took a screenshot. I don't remember focusing on this when I was in school. Mine was quite secular and simply taught the main world faiths, how they came to be and what they teach. This looks like something else.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #37 - June 09, 2014, 03:59 PM

    The snag is the BBC has been taken over already!

    Quote
    The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication - flog each of them with a hundred stripes: let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.
    Surah 24:2


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/rs/relationships/isloveandsexrev2.shtml

    The BBC GCSE revision site has no commentary on this!  Even if it is bite sized there is no problem with a bit of discussion.  Arguably it is racist not to make a comment about this!  For my exams I was expected to understand viewpoints, why is not the BBC saying anything?  Are they condoning sutee on another page and fgm somewhere else?

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #38 - June 09, 2014, 07:11 PM

    I understand there are genuine concerns especially since it's a state school but this sort of thing seems to be  getting a lot of Media Attention in recent times. It hits the National headlines immediately and it seems constant & unrelenting. My only concern is it may lead to a negativity (or even demonization) of everyday, ordinary muslims just trying to live their lives & go about their business in the UK. Would be nice just for once to see or hear a positive story or contribution made by a muslim group just to balance it out a bit but I guess that wouldn't sell in the tabloids or grab people's attention.
    Another school mentioned in a separate report is in my home town. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-27534483

    When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #39 - June 09, 2014, 07:33 PM

    The news is there to report on 'news' that is noteworthy. Extremism in schools, given all the pandering that moderate Islam has received from the media, needs to be thrust forth into the limelight. There is extreme elements in schools, and those that don't ahve a problem with it are the moderates because they hold such moderate views of segregated classes and teaching about the superiority of the Ummah over all else.

    Reality is ugly. Don't like it, don't look.

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #40 - June 09, 2014, 10:31 PM

    Here's some news from a school in Luton:
    Quote
    Books 'promoting stoning' found at Olive Tree Primary School
    6 hours ago

    Olive Tree Primary School earlier said it had written to Ofsted countering the report's findings
    A Muslim school found to have books suggesting stoning and lashing as appropriate punishments says it is the victim of "hostility".

    Ofsted said some of the library books at Olive Tree Primary School in Luton contained fundamentalist views which had "no place in British society".

    The education watchdog deemed Olive Tree Primary School in Bury Park Road "inadequate" following a visit in May.

    Farasat Latif, chairman of governors, said he rejected Ofsted's findings.

    Last month's inspection was abandoned when parents complained their children had been asked about homosexuality.

    But Ofsted said it had already gained "sufficient evidence" to produce a report.


    The school must now act to meet key standards for independent schools
    Inspectors said pupils' "contact with different cultures, faiths and traditions is too limited to promote tolerance and respect for the views, lifestyles and customs of other people".

    Senior leaders do not ensure "balanced views of the world" and some books in the school promote stoning and lashing as appropriate punishments, the report added.

    "There are too few books about the world's major religions other than Islam," it said.

    But Mr Latif said: "Ofsted came into the school looking for problems of extremism and intolerance and didn't find any," he said. "They carried out a half-baked inspection, which they abandoned half-way through.

    "We are the victims of the extreme politics of Michael Gove whose ignorance of Islam is matched by his hostility. Many Muslims will feel alienated and victims of state Islamaphobia.

    "We are a small school with 65 children and got 100 per cent on our SATS last year. We are involved with charities, like Dr Barnados which is not a Muslim charity."

    He said the school was considering taking legal action against the report. They were waiting to hear if it is to be put into special measures.

    Mr Latif said: "We have a large number of books about different faiths, which inspectors failed to to notice, including The Diary of Ann Frank."

    The school must now act to meet key standards for independent schools.

    These include ensuring the curriculum "better prepares [pupils] for living in modern Britain... in line with the laws of the land" and having library books with "balanced and tolerant views which reflect British democratic values".

    The report's findings come on the same day the head of Ofsted Sir Michael Wilshaw delivered his findings on claims of hardline Muslim takeovers at Birmingham schools with five of the schools being placed in special measures.


    Source:  http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-27761075
     

    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #41 - June 09, 2014, 10:43 PM

     a lot of things that need to come to light are coming to light.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #42 - June 10, 2014, 04:40 AM

    I hope they gather all the governing staffs of these schools and throw them out. in the latest news article on this topic, staff from these schools had to meet in a fucking parking lot of some shopping center to speak to these inspectors.

    The sad thing is, if the government was keeping such close tabs on mulims (like the kind that came out in USA) the entire muslim population of uk would be up in arms. but they see no problem doing it to other people.

    "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." ― Frank Zappa
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #43 - June 10, 2014, 07:11 AM

    smdh what they eat.....what a waste seriously he could have studied something worthwhile.

    Oh my Christopher Hitchens its a fihrrrrrrrrrrrr
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #44 - June 10, 2014, 01:36 PM

    I have personal experience of at least one of the schools involved and what I've read recently doesn't sound at all like the staff & school I know.

    I also have experience of Ofsted and how they can be influenced by politics and can come with an agenda - and surprise, surprise... find what they are looking for.

    There may be some truth in the findings, but I have a feeling this is just turning into a rather nasty bandwagon that I certainly want nothing to do with.
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #45 - June 10, 2014, 03:39 PM

    Its probably a bit of over egging the pudding both by some activists who seemed keen to want to push a particular kind of religion in certain ways, combined with politicians using it for their own agendas Hassan

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #46 - June 10, 2014, 07:41 PM

    As always, there is wisdom together with balance in what Billy posts. As a father I worry about the future of my kids and others from the community I grew up in. I want them to move forward, make progress and be more a part of overall UK society going forward. I know extremist Islam hinders that & poisons young minds encouraging an insular outlook & even violence at the other end of the scale. It needs to be challenged head on and aggressively so and I’m all for it . I’m also for critical thinking & questioning of Islam in general although it can be difficult to express that without offending in the real world & that’s why I will always support this site as it offers a safe space to do that.
    I’m not, however, for making communities feel marginalized  & I’m sorry if this is an unpopular view on here but I just think there is a danger of that happening with constant negative media portrayals of Muslims together with a barrage of anti  immigration coverage. The two together make for a toxic mix and does nothing for integration or UK cohesion in general.

    When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #47 - June 10, 2014, 08:12 PM

    I actually agree with you 100%.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #48 - June 10, 2014, 08:19 PM

    +1
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #49 - June 10, 2014, 08:23 PM

    It's actually a huge problem here in the states, as well.
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #50 - June 10, 2014, 08:25 PM

    Headteachers were removed after campaigns targeting them, because they weren't Muslim and didn't want to take schools outside a secular system. Lots of dodgy governance issues. If politicians and media have piled in, its because of a set of circumstances that were real. Islamists once again create a shitstorm that brings scrutiny on Muslims in general. Same old story as always.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #51 - June 10, 2014, 09:17 PM

    It's actually a huge problem here in the states, as well.

    BAN THE FAITH SCHOOLS and AMRIKA should  force the rascals to pay jizya tax for faith, beard tax cross tax., dot tax , Kipa  tax and what not..  finmad

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #52 - June 10, 2014, 09:38 PM

    I actually agree with you 100%.


    Thanks Quod.

    +1


    Thanks Hassan. Good to see you on here.

    When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #53 - June 11, 2014, 10:33 AM

    I read that these state schools are now being turned into academies.  Which have less restrictions....

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #54 - June 11, 2014, 10:50 AM

    I have personal experience of at least one of the schools involved and what I've read recently doesn't sound at all like the staff & school I know.

    I also have experience of Ofsted and how they can be influenced by politics and can come with an agenda - and surprise, surprise... find what they are looking for.

    There may be some truth in the findings, but I have a feeling this is just turning into a rather nasty bandwagon that I certainly want nothing to do with.


    This whole thing reminds me of an article I read awhile back:

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/mar/22/charlie-brooker-newspapers-dangerous-drug?CMP=fb_gu

    Quote
    The most dangerous drug isn't meow meow. It isn't even alcohol ...
    Newspapers are the biggest threat to the nation's mental wellbeing

    <snip>

    It's perhaps the biggest threat to the nation's mental wellbeing, yet it's freely available on every street – for pennies. The dealers claim it expands the mind and bolsters the intellect: users experience an initial rush of emotion (often euphoria or rage), followed by what they believe is a state of enhanced awareness. Tragically this "awareness" is a delusion. As they grow increasingly detached from reality, heavy users often exhibit impaired decision-making abilities, becoming paranoid, agitated and quick to anger. In extreme cases they've even been known to form mobs and attack people. Technically it's called "a newspaper", although it's better known by one of its many "street names", such as "The Currant Bun" or "The Mail" or "The Grauniad" (see me – Ed).

    In its purest form, a newspaper consists of a collection of facts which, in controlled circumstances, can actively improve knowledge. Unfortunately, facts are expensive, so to save costs and drive up sales, unscrupulous dealers often "cut" the basic contents with cheaper material, such as wild opinion, bullshit, empty hysteria, reheated press releases, advertorial padding and photographs of Lady Gaga with her bum hanging out. The hapless user has little or no concept of the toxicity of the end product: they digest the contents in good faith, only to pay the price later when they find themselves raging incoherently in pubs, or – increasingly – on internet messageboards.

    Tragically, widespread newspaper abuse has become so endemic, it has crippled the country's ability to conduct a sensible debate about the "war on drugs". The current screaming festival over "meow meow" or "M-Cat" or whatever else the actual users aren't calling it, is a textbook example. I have no idea how dangerous it is, but there seems to be a glaring lack of correlation between the threat it reportedly poses and the huge number of schoolkids reportedly taking it. Something doesn't add up. But in lieu of explanation, we're treated to an hysterical, obfuscating advertising campaign for a substance that will presumably – thanks to the furore – soon only be available via illegal, unregulated, more dangerous, means. If I was 15 years old, I wouldn't be typing this right now. I'd be trying to buy "plant food" on the internet. And this time next year I'd be buying it in a pub toilet, cut with worming pills and costing four times as much.

    <snip>


    You can read the whole thing at the link, but it made me chuckle since it's so spot on.

    The media is a joke.  Whilst I am someone who has experienced the negative of Islam, and I am aware that on many levels it poses a threat here or there, when it comes to what the media chooses to report or hype up, I take it with an ocean of salt.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #55 - June 11, 2014, 03:57 PM

    When I read this thread, I can't stop thinking of that 'Pink Floyd' song, how does it go again? 'Oi Beardo's,  leave those kids alone!'
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #56 - June 11, 2014, 03:59 PM

     Cheesy

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #57 - June 11, 2014, 06:23 PM

    I have personal experience of at least one of the schools involved and what I've read recently doesn't sound at all like the staff & school I know.

    I also have experience of Ofsted and how they can be influenced by politics and can come with an agenda - and surprise, surprise... find what they are looking for.

    There may be some truth in the findings, but I have a feeling this is just turning into a rather nasty bandwagon that I certainly want nothing to do with.


    Good to have Hassan back on this forum.  far away hug
    I only joined this forum a few months ago - after watching all of Hassans CEMB YouTube videos!
    Quick question Hassan - Is there any chance of some more content on the CEMB channel (from you preferably) ?
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #58 - June 15, 2014, 07:57 AM

    So, the Prime Minister has written an article for the Daily Mail. Let's see what Call me Dave has to say.

    British values aren’t optional, they’re vital. That’s why I will promote them in EVERY school: As row rages over ‘Trojan Horse’ takeover of our classrooms, the Prime Minister delivers this uncompromising pledge...

    Quote
    This week there has been a big debate about British values following the Trojan Horse controversy in some Birmingham schools  – about what these  values are, and the role they should play in education.

    I’m clear about what these  values are – and I’m equally clear that they should be promoted in every school and to every child in our country.

    The values I’m talking about – a belief in freedom, tolerance  of others, accepting personal and social responsibility, respecting and upholding the rule of law – are the things we should try to live by every day.

    To me they’re as British as the Union flag, as football, as fish and chips.

    Of course, people will say that these values are vital to other people in other countries. And, of course, they’re right.

    But what sets Britain apart are the traditions and history that anchors them and allows them to continue to flourish and develop.

    Our freedom doesn’t come from thin air. It is rooted in our parliamentary democracy and free press.

    Our sense of responsibility and the rule of law is attached to our courts and independent judiciary.

    Our belief in tolerance was won through struggle and is linked to the various churches and faith groups that have come to call Britain home.

    These are the institutions that help to enforce our values, keep them in check and make sure they apply to everyone equally.

    And taken together, I believe this combination – our values and our respect for the history that helped deliver them and the institutions that uphold them – forms the bedrock of Britishness.

    Without it, we wouldn’t be able to walk down the street freely, to say what we think, to be who we are, or do what we want.

    Newspapers like this wouldn’t exist. MPs like me would not have been democratically elected.

    And our property wouldn’t be our own. The question is: should we actively promote this? I absolutely think we should. For a start, this is a matter of pride and patriotism.

    Sometimes in this country we can be a bit squeamish about our achievements, even bashful about our Britishness. We shouldn’t be.

    Of course, we should teach  history with warts and all. But we should be proud of what Britain has done to defend freedom and develop these institutions – parliamentary democracy, a free press, the rule of law – that are so essential for people all over the world.

    This is the country that helped fight fascism, topple communism and abolish slavery; we invented the steam engine, the light bulb, the internet; and we also gave so much of the world the way of life that they hold so dear.

    As President Obama put it when he addressed MPs and peers in Parliament: ‘What began on this island would inspire millions throughout the continent of Europe and across the world.’

    But there are two other reasons why we should promote these values.

    The first is economic. I strongly believe our values form the foundation of our prosperity.

    The Western model of combining vibrant democracy with free enterprise has delivered great progress and prosperity, but it faces a challenge from more authoritarian models of economic development, like in Russia.

    Now is the time to demonstrate confidence.

    The simple yet profound facts that, in our system, governments can be defeated in a court of law, politicians can be voted out of power, and newspapers can publish what they choose: these things aren’t weaknesses, they are fundamental strengths.

    Put another way, promoting our values is a key way to economic success – and that’s why we will stick to our long-term economic plan of cutting the deficit, cutting taxes and backing businesses and families to get on in life.

    The second is social. Our values have a vital role to play in uniting us.

    They should help to ensure Britain not only brings together people from different countries, cultures and ethnicities, but also ensures that, together, we build a common home.

    In recent years we have been in danger of sending out a worrying message: that if you don’t want to believe in democracy, that’s fine; that if equality isn’t your bag, don’t worry about it; that if you’re completely intolerant of others, we will still tolerate you.

    As I’ve said before, this has not just led to division, it has also allowed extremism – of both the violent and non-violent kind – to flourish.

    So I believe we need to be far more muscular in promoting British values and the institutions that uphold them.

    That’s what a genuinely liberal country does: it believes in certain values and actively promotes them. It says to its citizens: this is what defines us as a society.

    What does that mean in practice? We have already taken some big steps.

    We are making sure new immigrants can speak English, because it will be more difficult for them to understand these values, and the history of our institutions, if they can’t speak our language.

    We are bringing proper narrative history back to the curriculum, so our children really learn our island’s story – and where our freedoms and things like our Parliament and constitutional monarchy came from.

    And as we announced this week, we are changing our approach further in schools. We are saying it isn’t enough simply to respect these values in schools – we’re saying that teachers should actively promote them. They’re not optional; they’re the core of what it is to live in Britain.

    Finally, we need to make the most of the things that bring us together as a diverse, unified nation. We’ve had a real run of events in recent years that have exemplified our national pride – the Diamond Jubilee, the Olympic and Paralympic Games; and this year the commemorations of the First World War and D-Day.

    Events like these remind us just how much Britain has to be proud of.

    Next year it will be the 800th anniversary of Magna Carta. Indeed, it was on this very day, 799 years ago, that the Great Charter was sealed at Runnymede in Surrey.

    It’s a great document in our history – what my favourite book, Our Island Story, describes as the ‘foundation of all our laws and liberties’.

    In sealing it, King John had  to accept that his subjects were citizens – for the first time giving them rights, protections and security.

    The remaining copies of that charter may have faded, but its principles shine as brightly as ever, and they paved the way for the democracy, the equality, the respect and the laws that make Britain.

    So I want to use this upcoming 800th anniversary as an opportunity for every child to learn about the Magna Carta, for towns to commemorate it, for events to celebrate it.

    I’m even holding my own ‘one year to go’ reception at Downing Street tomorrow.

    Britain has a lot to be proud of, and our values and institutions are right at the top of that list.

    It’s not just important to promote, understand and celebrate these things for their own sake; it is absolutely vital to our future.

    And that is why I’m absolutely committed to doing so.


    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Jihadist plot to take over Birmingham schools'
     Reply #59 - June 16, 2014, 12:54 AM

    ^

    Wait if he is the Prime Minister surely The Guardian or BBC a more reputable paper would let him write so why would he write in the daily mail ??

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
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