I've never heard that before. Do you have some proof for that? It's likely he has borrowed stories like setting of the sun, Ibrahim and that guy thrown into the fire, Jesus as a kid and so on, but I don't know if I can believe that Quran existed before Muhammad.
Well there was NO Quran before Muhammad., What I am saying is those verses you read in Quran, you will find similar statements in so-called religious books/saying of that time from other religious folks. Quran was probably written by two or three different authors at different time. It appears these authors of Quran have not even read/edited once as you see repetitive statements in it Quite often.
Incidentally there was NO Quran when Muhammad was alive. Quran was put together 10/20 years after the death of Prophet of Islam. It is essentially similar to hadith in the sense these alleged revelations were collected as
sayings of Prophet of Islam when he was under trance(out of his mind) from sahabha, the so-called companions of Prophet of Islam by the authors of Quran. Please check
the list of folks that were his alleged companionsAs far as proof
"NOTHING NEW written in that book" is concerned, we just have to read Quran surah by surah and ayah by ayah all 114 chapters and 3300 verses or so.
On the way let me give bit of proof here . You see verses like these from various chapters of Quran
Ta Seen Meem.[Al Quran ; 28:1]
Ta Seen, [Al Quran ; 27:1]
Ta Seen Meem [Al Quran ; 26:1]
Ta Ha. [Al Quran ; 20:1]
Kaf Ha Ya Ein Sad. [Al Quran ; 19:1]
Alif Lam Ra. [Al Quran ; 15:1]
Alif Lam Ra. [Al Quran ; 14:1]
Alif, Lam, Mim, Ra. [Al Quran ; 13:1]
Alif Lam Ra.[Al Quran ; 12:1]
Alif Lam Ra.[Al Quran ; 11:1]
Alif Lam Ra.[Al Quran ; 10:1]
Alif Lam Meem Sad.[Al Quran ; 7:1]
Alif Lam Meem.[Al Quran ; 3:1]
Alif Lam Meem.[Al Quran ; 2:1]
why do we need all that meaningless mumbling??
I means It is ok if some one making up some arabic rap song you can make some rhyming sounds to make it sound like song but as word of allah?? that is nonsense.. And look at this whole chapter..
066.001 : O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
066.002 : Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths (in some cases): and Allah is your Protector, and He is Full of Knowledge and Wisdom.
066.003 : When the Prophet disclosed a matter in confidence to one of his consorts, and she then divulged it (to another), and Allah made it known to him, he confirmed part thereof and repudiated a part. Then when he told her thereof, she said, "Who told thee this? "He said, "He told me Who knows and is well-acquainted (with all things)."
066.004 : If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and Gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels - will back (him) up.
066.005 : It may be, if he divorced you (all), that Allah will give him in exchange consorts better than you,- who submit (their wills), who believe, who are devout, who turn to Allah in repentance, who worship (in humility), who travel (for Faith) and fast,- previously married or virgins.
066.006 : O ye who believe! save yourselves and your families from a Fire whose fuel is Men and Stones, over which are (appointed) angels stern (and) severe, who flinch not (from executing) the Commands they receive from Allah, but do (precisely) what they are commanded.
066.007 : (They will say), "O ye Unbelievers! Make no excuses this Day! Ye are being but requited for all that ye did!"
066.008 : O ye who believe! Turn to Allah with sincere repentance: In the hope that your Lord will remove from you your ills and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow,- the Day that Allah will not permit to be humiliated the Prophet and those who believe with him. Their Light will run forward before them and by their right hands, while they say, "Our Lord! Perfect our Light for us, and grant us Forgiveness: for Thou hast power over all things."
066.009 I: O Prophet! Strive hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed).
066.010 : Allah sets forth, for an example to the Unbelievers, the wife of Noah and the wife of Lut: they were (respectively) under two of our righteous servants, but they were false to their (husbands), and they profited nothing before Allah on their account, but were told: "Enter ye the Fire along with (others) that enter!"
066.011 : And Allah sets forth, as an example to those who believe the wife of Pharaoh: Behold she said: "O my Lord! Build for me, in nearness to Thee, a mansion in the Garden, and save me from Pharaoh and his doings, and save me from those that do wrong";
066.012: And Mary the daughter of 'Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (her body) of Our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations, and was one of the devout (servants).
and these verses
065.001 : O Prophet! When ye do divorce women, divorce them at their prescribed periods, and count (accurately), their prescribed periods: And fear Allah your Lord: and turn them not out of their houses, nor shall they (themselves) leave, except in case they are guilty of some open lewdness, those are limits set by Allah: and any who transgresses the limits of Allah, does verily wrong his (own) soul: thou knowest not if perchance Allah will bring about thereafter some new situation.
065.002 : Thus when they fulfil their term appointed, either take them back on equitable terms or part with them on equitable terms; and take for witness two persons from among you, endued with justice, and establish the evidence (as) before Allah. Such is the admonition given to him who believes in Allah and the Last Day. And for those who fear Allah, He (ever) prepares a way out,
065.003 : And He provides for him from (sources) he never could imagine. And if any one puts his trust in Allah, sufficient is (Allah) for him. For Allah will surely accomplish his purpose: verily, for all things has Allah appointed a due proportion.
That is absolute nonsense and horrible verses. It looks as if Allah is a pimp and looking after Prophet's women problems.., If we remove all such silly verses what you left is verses defending his actions., hell fire to infidels/iodlators , heaven to believers along with stories from OT+NT that were floating around Arabia and verses that assert
"all the Quran is From Allah/god and he is the messenger/last messenger."That is what we have SM...