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  • Help me develop my argument
     OP - October 26, 2013, 01:28 AM
    I'm very bored

    1. Causing unnecessary suffering is an act of cruelty
    2. God has no needs
    3. God is the cause primary cause of everything that has ever happened
    4. God did not need to cause suffering
    5. God caused unnecessary suffering
    6. Therefore, God is cruel

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    It does not matter if some good can come through suffering. It is still unnecessary and therefore cruel. There may not be other ways to bring about this good. The suffering is still not necessary. Also, even if some good can come through terrible diseases, hunger, rape and murder, it is not worth it. If a mother says that she let a rabid dog maul her child in order to make the child a stronger person, she is deemed insane. God should be held to the same or higher standards since God is supposedly more loving than mothers.
  • Help me develop my argument
     Reply #1 - October 26, 2013, 01:34 AM
     whistling2 dance wacko finmad
  • Help me develop my argument
     Reply #2 - October 26, 2013, 05:07 AM
    Quote from: 7amzah on October 26, 2013, 01:28 AM
    I'm very bored

    1. Causing unnecessary suffering is an act of cruelty
    2. God has no needs
    3. God is the cause primary cause of everything that has ever happened
    4. God did not need to cause suffering
    5. God caused unnecessary suffering
    6. Therefore, God is cruel

    ........................

    Most important thing in life is "Not to Get Bored"  Any way I think god is having permanent diarrhea., since his birth heeeeeeeeeee   is spending its time sitting on top  of  this

    Hmm Something looks  very similar to that.,   Talking about toilets and god having permanent diarrhea., This from a Bangladesh guy is interesting

    So 7amzah let us not get bored..  There is plenty to do in life,  especially in the "Human Life"
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Help me develop my argument
     Reply #3 - October 26, 2013, 06:56 AM
    Quote from: 7amzah on October 26, 2013, 01:28 AM
    It does not matter if some good can come through suffering. It is still unnecessary and therefore cruel. There may not be other ways to bring about this good. The suffering is still not necessary.


    Astaghfirullah!
    Who are you to judge what is necessary? Allah (SWT) is the creator. You are the created. Did you create yourself? You cannot even create a fly!
    The arrogance of these kuffar!
  • Help me develop my argument
     Reply #4 - October 26, 2013, 06:59 AM
    1. Causing unnecessary suffering is an act of cruelty
    2. God has no needs because God doesn't exist
    3. God isn't the cause of anything that has ever happened
    4. God did not need to cause suffering
    5. God has caused no suffering
    6. Therefore, God is teh awesomesauce

    There ya go. Smiley
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Help me develop my argument
     Reply #5 - October 26, 2013, 08:31 AM
    Quote from: dr_sloth on October 26, 2013, 06:56 AM
    You are the created. Did you create yourself?

    No, evolution created me.

    Quote from: dr_sloth on October 26, 2013, 06:56 AM
    You cannot even create a fly!

    Sure, evolution created that too.


    Quote from: dr_sloth on October 26, 2013, 06:56 AM
    Allah (SWT) is the creator.

    And who created Allah (SWTDGFGFFHJJGJGJG)?
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Help me develop my argument
     Reply #6 - October 26, 2013, 08:58 AM
    Quote from: dr_sloth on October 26, 2013, 06:56 AM
    Astaghfirullah!
    Who are you to judge what is necessary? Allah (SWT) is the creator. You are the created. Did you create yourself? You cannot even create a fly!
    The arrogance of these kuffar!


    you serious?  Cheesy
  • Help me develop my argument
     Reply #7 - October 26, 2013, 11:42 AM
    Quote from: dr_sloth on October 26, 2013, 06:56 AM
    Astaghfirullah!
    Who are you to judge what is necessary? Allah (SWT) is the creator. You are the created. Did you create yourself? You cannot even create a fly!
    The arrogance of these kuffar!


    i must repent and bend over now so Allah can get a nice view of my butt while I make sujood.
  • Help me develop my argument
     Reply #8 - October 26, 2013, 11:44 AM
    Quote from: 7amzah on October 26, 2013, 11:42 AM
    i must repent and bend over now so Allah can ................................


    No..no..nah.. 7amzah it is other way around..  "make allah bend.. "
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Help me develop my argument
     Reply #9 - October 27, 2013, 02:08 AM
    How can you prove number 1? Matter of fact, how can you objectively prove any moral 'truth'?
  • Help me develop my argument
     Reply #10 - October 27, 2013, 03:06 AM
    You can't, but it's generally considered a good idea to avoid unnecessary cruelty. Keeps the hippies happy, etc.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Help me develop my argument
     Reply #11 - October 27, 2013, 04:14 PM
    Help me develop your argument?
     Well, ditch the word God for a start.
  • Help me develop my argument
     Reply #12 - October 28, 2013, 08:46 PM
    Quote from: kutta on October 27, 2013, 02:08 AM
    How can you prove number 1?

    It's true by definition, isn't it?
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Help me develop my argument
     Reply #13 - October 29, 2013, 09:54 AM
    That's true, but I meant it in an objective sense.
  • Help me develop my argument
     Reply #14 - October 29, 2013, 11:20 AM
     "It does not matter if some good can come through suffering. It is still unnecessary and therefore cruel. There may not be other ways to bring about this good. The suffering is still not necessary. Also, even if some good can come through terrible diseases, hunger, rape and murder, it is not worth it. If a mother says that she let a rabid dog maul her child in order to make the child a stronger person, she is deemed insane. God should be held to the same or higher standards since God is supposedly more loving than mothers."



    Now how cant this not  be objective and prove the point? Lol
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