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  • EDL Leaders Resign
     OP - October 08, 2013, 09:45 AM

    Hmm. Kevin Carrol and Tommy Robinson have decided to leave the EDL. news story courtesy of the Quilliam Foundation. Interesting reasons give apparently.

    At least they were open to reason, religion isn't.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #1 - October 08, 2013, 10:03 AM


    Whilst remaining suspicious, this is stunning news. Will have to monitor him for a long period though to see he is genuine.

    Islamists will be seething - they hate Majid Nawaz and Quillam

    ++++

    Tommy Robinson has sensationally quit the English Defence League, saying he can no longer control the extremist elements within the organisation.

    "I have been considering this move for a long time because I recognise that, though street demonstrations have brought us to this point, they are no longer productive," Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Lennon, said in a short statement to the Quilliam Foundation.

    "I acknowledge the dangers of far-right extremism and the ongoing need to counter Islamist ideology not with violence but with better, democratic ideas.”

    Kevin Caroll, Robinson's deputy, has also quit the organisation.

    Just one week ago, Robinson was accused of "stalkerish and bizarre" behaviour by an anti-English Defence League campaign group, for taking pictures outside what he believed was the group co-ordinator's place of work.

    EDL News Editor Gary Moon told Huffington Post UK he had "serious concerns," about the EDL leader "going around picking names out of a phone book."

    Robinson had been looking in the phone book for Moon's address and came across a Garry Moon – a man totally unconnected to the website.

    On Wednesday this week he then sent the site a tweet, apparently of a photo outside the property of the wrong man.

    Even this week, Robinson has tweeted about "sharia legalising paedophilia" and accused Muslims of "creating Islamophobia themselves".


    PROFILE: The EDL's Tommy Robinson

    The anti-extremism organisation Quilliam has claimed credit for the shock departure, saying they hope "to help Tommy invest his energy and commitment in countering extremism of all kinds, supporting the efforts to bring along his former followers and encouraging his critique of Islamism as well as his concern with far-right extremism."


    "We call all of Tommy’s former colleagues in the EDL to follow in his footsteps and also call on Islamist extremist leaders to follow this example and leave their respective groups. Tommy and Kevin believe the voice they have created can be channelled in a positive direction. Quilliam stands ready to facilitate such moves across the spectrum," the group said in a statement.

    Quilliam Chairman and Co-Founder Maajid Nawaz said: “As well as being a very positive change for the United Kingdom, this is a very proud moment for Quilliam. This represents not a change but a continuation for us, as challenging extremism of all kinds forms the basis of our work.

    "We have been able to show that Britain stands together against extremism regardless of political views and hope to continue supporting Tommy and Kevin in their journey to counter Islamism and neo-Nazi extremism.”



    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/08/tommy-robinson-quits-edl_n_4061922.html?utm_hp_ref=tw


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #2 - October 08, 2013, 10:04 AM

    arthur, arthur, wherfore art thou, arthur?


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #3 - October 08, 2013, 10:09 AM


    I'm going to remain sceptic for a while though.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #4 - October 08, 2013, 10:32 AM

    arthur, arthur, wherfore art thou, arthur?




    In a state of complete shock mate and so are all of us in the EDL.

    Arthur.
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #5 - October 08, 2013, 10:35 AM

    In a state of complete shock mate and so are all of us in the EDL.

    Arthur.


     Cheesy

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #6 - October 08, 2013, 11:48 AM

    In a state of complete shock mate and so are all of us in the EDL.

    Arthur.


    Should make you think though, eh, Arthur?

    To be honest I don't trust Tommy and I think Quillam are taking a big risk. But I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

    You though, have been played and you'll excuse me for laughing a little inside I'm sure.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #7 - October 08, 2013, 11:49 AM

    In a state of complete shock mate and so are all of us in the EDL.

    Arthur.

    That is complete shock to me also  arthur2.,  it is indeed a big loss for EDL and those who think EDL has or draws in to its fold mentally insane brutal berserk  baboons like this one., I am of the opinion people like you or  that fellow Tommy Robinson staying in that organization could soften its image a bit.  I actually like  that kind of  taqiyya

    it is a shock, indeed a shock  to me,  But please you stay in it, after all  you are a long time member of it.  At Least defend English Language if not EDL.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBwIAauR-6g

    with best wishes
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #8 - October 08, 2013, 12:04 PM

    At Least defend English Language if not EDL.
    with best wishes
    yeezevee


    Yes arthur listen to yaeh yeah yeah zee vee in da house, because the English language sure ain't safe with him around.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #9 - October 08, 2013, 12:06 PM

    Yes arthur listen to yaeh yeah yeah zee vee in da house, because the English language sure ain't safe with him around.

    That is a FACT devil.... 

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #10 - October 08, 2013, 03:26 PM

    That is a FACT devil.... 


    I bored with yeah yeah etc from now on, it is ZeeTeeVee.

    ZTV - Your sounding like Rafa Benetiz

    I think this thread will degenerate into mature discussion sometime soon.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #11 - October 08, 2013, 06:25 PM

    Bit skeptical of his reasons, but still - if he has had a change of heart, good for him. 

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #12 - October 08, 2013, 06:30 PM

    just seen that on Channel 4 news. It is an important development and I hope something good comes of it.

    According to the polls only 1.6 % of Americans are athiests. So what gives you the right to call the other 80% morons?'
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #13 - October 08, 2013, 06:45 PM

    Skeptic here too. I don't really buy it, him turning over a new leaf or having some kind of self-awareness epiphany. I reckon the heat just got too much for him and he's trying to defuse it a bit.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #14 - October 08, 2013, 06:53 PM

    Yeah, I reckon it got too hot in the kitchen for him. But I'm still open to him being genuine. Its just that it will take a long time for him to prove that it is genuine. Actions speak louder than words etc etc

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #15 - October 08, 2013, 10:34 PM

    Like I said to Arthur a while ago, there are parts of the EDL manifesto I agree with but the reality of the EDL is very different. Who knows, Tommy may genuinely want to combat extremists not all muslims and his organisation got out of control. The EDL tend to link each other stories every other day on what extremists have done somewhere in the world and whip themselves up into a frenzy. "Oh look, yesterday they did it here, today there, a muslim somewhere in the world will do something horrible tomorrow" and it feeds their own paranoia about islam. The mission of combatting extremists turns into a view that muslims in general are extreme or likely to become so by virtue of being muslim or are hiding extremists within their midst and thus aiding them, which makes the majority of muslims guilty. That's the warped mentality.

    People can change for the better. They can stop and think and realise that this isn't what they wanted and try to make changes. I have to agree with billy, it could be something else, it could be genuine. Let's wait and see.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #16 - October 08, 2013, 10:38 PM

    Yeah, I reckon it got too hot in the kitchen for him. But I'm still open to him being genuine. Its just that it will take a long time for him to prove that it is genuine. Actions speak louder than words etc etc

    Yep. And his actions have always said "I'm a wifebeating football hooligan"

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #17 - October 08, 2013, 11:03 PM

    arthur, arthur, wherfore art thou, arthur?




     Cheesy Ah, Billy. I love you, man.
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #18 - October 08, 2013, 11:10 PM

    See? This is what rap music can do: free your mind, folks! Listening to the brain–expanding musical logic of quill.i.am has helped them escape from the clutches of the EDL!
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #19 - October 08, 2013, 11:14 PM


    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #20 - October 08, 2013, 11:21 PM

    This tweet came up yesterday...

    @undersided
    this article believes Quilliam foundation are at the forefront of islamophobia in the uk today http://www.5pillarz.com/2013/04/30/usama-hasan-and-the-quillaim-foundation-exposed-again/

    https://twitter.com/undersided/status/387509517854195712
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #21 - October 08, 2013, 11:28 PM

    So wait a sec... wanting a more liberal Islam and encouraging people to petition against those wanker propagandists at IERA is Islamophobia?

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #22 - October 08, 2013, 11:37 PM

    That's what I'm getting from my Full Communism mate (@RiotInIKEA) and his chums.

    I do wish someone would set them straight. He doesn't listen to me.
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #23 - October 08, 2013, 11:44 PM

    Call him a stupid cunt and then block him.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #24 - October 08, 2013, 11:46 PM

    So basically, the story is that the EDL did a reshuffle of their Cabinet, and two short planks fell out…
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #25 - October 09, 2013, 12:19 AM

    This tweet came up yesterday...

    @undersided
    this article believes Quilliam foundation are at the forefront of islamophobia in the uk today http://www.5pillarz.com/2013/04/30/usama-hasan-and-the-quillaim-foundation-exposed-again/

    https://twitter.com/undersided/status/387509517854195712


    The universe should cave in with the stupidity of this.

    5 Pillarz is a Hizb front. Supremacist, extremist, anti-semitic, and gay bashing, homophobic Hizb. And yet you get lefties and gay activists linking to it and praising it.

    I think Nawaz is a good guy. He's taking a massive risk. But the sheer fucked upness of parts of the modern left is truly a sight to behold.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #26 - October 09, 2013, 01:22 AM

    Thanks, Billy. If you can be arsed, could you tweet the guys in question. I've no doubt they mean well, but someone needs to give their wooden heads a wobble.
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #27 - October 09, 2013, 11:43 PM

    I think what Quilliam have done is brilliant. Are we sure that there are no closet athiests in that organisation. This requires outside of the book/box thinking. I'd give Tommy Robinson another chance or I could wait for him to grow a beard. I understand the inception of the EDl if not its methods and modus operandi, grizzlies in black with their ninja wives, most likely claiming the dole, shouting obscenities at rank and file soldiers. Fucking disgusting.

    The soldiers are doing a job. They don't get to make decisions. have a go at the politicians. Respect because one day, they might be the only ones...

    Now if the grizzlies had a PR agent, a good one, he would have told them, the twenty of them in their black fatigues, holding a SILENT demonstration, would have made a LOUDER point.

    Instead they begat the EDL.


    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #28 - October 10, 2013, 01:26 AM


    5 Pillarz  is a Hizb front........................


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-om7ity_DOU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoBlQo6ZuSo

    That is  Laura Stuart who converted to Islam  and  This is Jasmine from Bangladeshi Born in Islam

     

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • EDL Leaders Resign
     Reply #29 - October 11, 2013, 06:41 AM

    Just found this, going to watch it after I make a cuppa. pccoffee

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcm4CMggH6s&feature=youtu.be

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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