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 Topic: 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger

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  • 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger
     OP - April 26, 2013, 01:22 AM

    Quote
    In the 1950s, the most common bra-cup size was a B - three sizes less than a DD.

    Modern breasts are getting so large that some bra companies have introduced cup sizes as high as K, The Sunday Telegraph reports.

    Experts blame the cleavage boost on obesity, contraceptive pills and artificial hormones.

    Myer lingerie buyer Kerryn Sawyer said sales of DD-plus bras have grown from about 20 per cent of sales to 28 per cent in just five years.

    Many lingerie labels such as Berlei and Triumph are now offering G cups while Fayreform, Freya and Le Mystere are producing select styles up to a size J.

    Berlei brand manager Jane Edser said the company's range of bra styles, available in DD-plus, had, increased since 2005 from 75 per cent to 83 per cent, to cater for the growing market.

    Bra company Eveden Australia launched a K cup into the market last year. The company's fitting specialist, Victoria Jubb, said obesity contributed significantly to the expanding chest sizes but the number of small-figured women with large breasts was on the increase.

    "We're noticing a lot more girls with small backs and bigger bust sizes being fitted," she said.

    Eveden's top-selling size is a 10G.


    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/fashion/dd-cup-runneth-over-for-aussie-women/story-e6frfn7i-1225699623920#ixzz2RWoDH7Xa

    Man artificial hormones going to end up killing or mutating us
  • 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger
     Reply #1 - April 26, 2013, 01:42 AM

    You don't seem to be all that good on analysis.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger
     Reply #2 - April 26, 2013, 01:51 AM

    End of days.. clearly.

    ***~Church is where bad people go to hide~***
  • 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger
     Reply #3 - April 26, 2013, 02:43 AM

    You don't seem to be all that good on analysis.


    Oh really? So do please share with us your analogy
  • 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger
     Reply #4 - April 26, 2013, 07:27 AM

    I have a better idea. Why don't you support your claim that artificial hormones will end up killing us or mutating us.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger
     Reply #5 - April 26, 2013, 08:20 AM

    fat
  • 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger
     Reply #6 - April 26, 2013, 08:54 AM

    You appear to have an eye for stories on boobies.
  • 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger
     Reply #7 - April 26, 2013, 08:55 AM

    Oh, and I agree with dr.sloth, it's just because we've got a lot of fat women hence a lot of women with big busts.
  • 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger
     Reply #8 - April 26, 2013, 10:12 AM

    Meh. Thoughts so far:

    1/ Are bra sizes the same now as they were 50 years ago? I know in the US at least, women's clothing sizes have been changed in that period, so that what used to be called size 6 is now called size 0. This was pure marketing spin. Since fashion/culture dictated that the "ideal" woman's body size was smaller than the actual average, marketing clothes in a way that made your customers feel thinner was going to be good for business. So, they resized everything down to smaller numbers. Hey presto, Mrs. Average walks into a store and is miraculously more svelte than she was last week. What a nice brand. Must buy that one.

    OTOH, "ideal" boob sizes were larger than the actual average, so that would also provide opportunity for marketing spin. If you make your customers feel like they are suddenly more "well endowed" they may be more likely to buy your product. So, it would be logical to resize bra cups in the opposite way to how it was done with clothes. The effect of this would be, you guessed it, "larger" bras being sold.

    Now I don't know if this resizing was done with bras or not, but I'm sure the marketing peeps who did it for clothes would be thinking of other possible things to spin. So, that's the first thing I'd check: actual sizes 50 years ago compared to actual sizes today.

    2/ This article isn't from a paper in Nature. It's from the entertainment section (yup) of a commercial news organisation. IOW, even the publishers apparently consider this to just be entertainment. This would indicate that the content is probably about as scientific as Beavis and Butthead sniggering because someone said "boobz".

    3/ Why the fuck are they quoting the opinion of a cardiologist? A cardiologist's field of expertise is the thumpy thumpy thing behind teh boobz. A cardiologist may also study boobz (god knows most of us do, cardiologists or not) but this would only be a hobby, not a field in which said cardiologist's opinion would be of any more interest or relevance than my opinion.

    4/ This quote:
    Quote
    "Bra company Eveden Australia launched a K cup into the market last year. The company's fitting specialist, Victoria Jubb, said obesity contributed significantly to the expanding chest sizes but the number of small-figured women with large breasts was on the increase.

    "We're noticing a lot more girls with small backs and bigger bust sizes being fitted," she said.

    Eveden's top-selling size is a 10G. "

    Well, in case you didn't know, that particular company specialises in accoutrements for women who are big in all departments. Ergo, it is not surprising that their best selling item would be of a size that would be far too large for most Australian women.

    5/ Also, re the small framed women being fitted, does anyone have a clue about what may have become more common in the last couple of decades? I'll give you a clue: Dolly Parton. Yup, fake tits. They used to be solely for porn stars and wierdos. These days they're accepted as being pretty much mainstream. Not surpisingly, an increase in the number of implant operations is not going to decrease average breast size.

    6/ The research director for Family Planning mentioned that, in her opinion, which as far as I can tell from the article is not backed by actual studies, she thought it possible that high dosage contraceptive pills might be one factor. That's a fair enough comment from her, but is not grounds for panicking about mutation.

    7/ There has been research conducted about negative effects of pseudo-oestrogens, but from what I've seen the main concern has been the effect on wildlife, particularly fish. Sex determination in fish, reptiles and birds is so dramatically different to sex determination in primates that the former do not even have X and Y chromosomes. Yes, fish, reptiles and birds do have chromsomes and yes, they are responsible for sex determination, so they are analogous to the human equivalents, but they are still dramatically different. So, results from studies on those species may not have any relevance to humans.

    8/ Australia's population is aging and, in general, older people in affluent societies tend to get fatter. So, an increase in the average age would give an increase in teh chubbies. As women get fatter their boobs get bigger, simply because boobs are just bags of fat. Increase body fat deposits, and they will increase everywhere. On top of that, there is a growing problem with obesity across all ages ranges, which will compound the effect.

    So yes, fat people. This was mentioned in the article, so I'm damned if I know why anyone would overlook it.

    There are probably more points that could be made, but those will do for now. Once you have accurate stats on the contributions made by all of these factors, then you might be in a position to start figuring out what proportion of the remainder of the effect (assuming there is a remainder) might be due to pseudo-oestrogens.

    PS: I could add 9/ Direct observation. As it so happens, I have been conducting my own informal study of Australian boobs for almost the entire 50 year period under discussion. If this article is correct, I should have noticed them doubling in size over the course of the last five decades. No such effect has been observed. Just sayin.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger
     Reply #9 - April 26, 2013, 11:26 AM

    wow osmanthus: big boobs are a very important issue for you
  • 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger
     Reply #10 - April 26, 2013, 11:34 AM

    ^ Grin Yeah, I was going to say something similar. It's like an entire essay analysing the increase in boob size over the years.
  • 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger
     Reply #11 - April 26, 2013, 11:37 AM

    Not sure why anyone should be panicking about mutation anyway, it's happening all the time and treating the current human form as static is ridiculous.

    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger
     Reply #12 - April 26, 2013, 06:05 PM

    I have a better idea. Why don't you support your claim that artificial hormones will end up killing us or mutating us.


    Have you ever heard of something called "Obesity"? Because that is a huge epidemic right now. There is a direct correlation to to chemical exposures in our bodies and the rise of obesity through something called Obesogens which was discovered by Dr. Bruce Blumberg in 2006. Its very new but it has gained a lot attention in the scientific community. In another 10 years we will definitely know more about it.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3279464/

    And as for the rest of your paragraphed rant, I don't really care.
  • 40 per cent of Australian women wear a bra with a cup size DD or bigger
     Reply #13 - April 26, 2013, 09:53 PM

    Well the rest of my paragraphed rant was about why I thought you were a bit over the top in jumping straight to "ZOMFG we're all gonna mutate and die!". It seemed like you were overreacting and ignoring a lot of obvious factors. However, if you want to get the grumps about it, go ahead.

    Yes, obviously I know about obesity. I did mention it, y'know. So did the article. You were the one who ignored it and went on about synthetic hormones.

    ETA: I skimmed the article on obesogens. I'll read it in more detail later. However, it is noteworthy that the majority of compounds listed in that article are not synthetic hormones. To take just one example, TBT. I already knew about that one since it was banned from antifouling paint years ago. The reason was, of course, the bad effects on marine life. However, there is no evidence that TBT will cause sex reversal in humans, which brings me back to what I said in my "paragraphed rant" - sex determination in marine life is not the same as sex determination in humans. You can't assume that results from one study will necessarily carry over to a species that uses a different mechanism.


    wow osmanthus: big boobs are a very important issue for you

     Cheesy Not really. I just thought I'd pull the article to bits, since the OP presented it as authorative, and as grounds for immediate panic coz of the impending zombie apocalypse.

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