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  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #90 - April 17, 2013, 08:31 AM
    The target makes this look a lot like the work of a lone psycho. I don't see why a Muslim group would bomb a random marathon. 
    Quote from: Ishina on April 16, 2013, 08:39 PM
    I managed to keep my shit together about this until I saw this picture:

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    Martin Richard, 8 year old victim.

    That's too awful Cry

    Quote
    According to myfoxboston.com, an American Airlines flight flying out of Boston to Chicago was diverted this morning after a passenger reported two men speaking Arabic to one another.
    Sources tell the site that there were several marathon runners on the flight who showed concern that the two people, who were not sitting together, were speaking the language.
    The plane was sent back to the gate and the men were escorted off the aircraft.

    Roll Eyes ZOMFG Ay-rabz!! This is disgusting. How could've they just kicked them off the plane for no reason *smh*. 

    Quote
    Sad those sentiments are rarely seen reciprocated.

    I know :( Whose mourning the piles of victims of virtually indiscriminate U.S. drone strikes? When I was a Muslim this kinda thing made me cringe; it was like Muslims worldwide owed Westerners an apology or had to prove we weren't savages. I was all "fuck that. They don't care when we die!".  

  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #91 - April 17, 2013, 09:24 AM
    Well the thing I noticed yesterday was that there was a string of bombings (37, I think) all across Iraq. I'm not sure how much attention they got in the US. I suspect not much.

    ETA: Oh and of course it was Sunni on Shia violence. Al Wankers again. Roll Eyes
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #92 - April 17, 2013, 09:29 AM
    I think that's mostly to do with the nature of news media.  Whatever they choose to highlight is what gets everybody's emotions worked up.  You see it even with murders that are close to home - the rare occasions when a child gets abducted and killed by a stranger will make instant headlines, and yet how many children are battered to death in their own homes every week and we hear little about it.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #93 - April 17, 2013, 09:37 AM
    Quote from: Cato on April 17, 2013, 07:13 AM
    First of all, my sympathy and thoughts goes out to the victims and their families. I wish the injured ones to recover fully.

    That being said,I can't say how irk I am at some people making accusations towards muslims because its a bomb. Yes, we are aware of the talibans,suicide bombing and shit but that doesn't mean you should turn into Robert Spencer type and point fingers at muslims without proof which is silly and idiotic Roll Eyes

    Finally, I'm sick of watching the hypocrisy of the "so-called International media" that keeps bombarding us with the news 24/7 including some newspapers here copy-pasting AFP/Reuters page. Of course I'm not saying attacks at any place other than USA is more or less worse(inb4 someone says that) but if you ask me if I really give a damn about the news, I'd be lying if I say yes. So much for the horrible shit that is happening in this world that I can't really put an effort to care about this.

     

    +1
    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #94 - April 17, 2013, 10:07 AM
    Quote
    Quote from: Stardust on April 17, 2013, 09:37 AM

    +1

    Quote from: Cato on April 17, 2013, 07:13 AM
    First of all, my sympathy and thoughts goes out to the victims and their families. I wish the injured ones to recover fully.

    That being said,I can't say how irk I am at some people making accusations towards muslims because its a bomb. Yes, we are aware of the talibans,suicide bombing and shit but that doesn't mean you should turn into Robert Spencer type and point fingers at muslims without proof which is silly and idiotic Roll Eyes

    Finally, I'm sick of watching the hypocrisy of the "so-called International media" that keeps bombarding us with the news 24/7 including some newspapers here copy-pasting AFP/Reuters page. Of course I'm not saying attacks at any place other than USA is more or less worse(inb4 someone says that) but if you ask me if I really give a damn about the news, I'd be lying if I say yes. So much for the horrible shit that is happening in this world that I can't really put an effort to care about this.


    I have not read many of the responses but  Stardust  and Cato..  you guys have to explain bit here to this fool...

    1). what is important to this forum and what kind of news is important for you guys?  

    Some 100,000 people of a city running together having fun  and another 500,000 watching them ..some rogues put pressure cooker bombs  kill  folks who have done nothing to these rogues  and some 20 or so lost legs and hands  and if another two pressure cookers exploded at the right time things could have been much worse ...

    and and apparently  Chinese guy who was having fun to watch that marathon Died in Boston Marathon Bombings... A town people are having fun running in a city as community rogues put bombs on road side?  


    Now tell me another news story that beats the above news..  and concisely explain what kind of discussions and debates are  better to this forum?

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #95 - April 17, 2013, 10:17 AM
    I think I may have just become desensitised to hearing bad news. :/ Idk, I just don't feel much, other than a little for that young boy^ that was killed.
    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #96 - April 17, 2013, 10:21 AM
    hmm Look at these idiots and what they write on that bloody news..
    Quote
    Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah Celebrate Boston Terror Attack...

    http://www.israelnewsagency.com/hamas_boston_terror_attack_islamic_jihad.jpg

    http://www.israelnewsagency.com/boston_terror_bombing.jpg   ....

    they throw couple of pictures and write this
    Quote
    hortly after terror bombs exploded and murdered over 12 people at the Boston Marathon, members of Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah were reported to be dancing in the streets of Gaza, handing out candies to passerbys. A number of Palestinians had danced in the street in celebration of the 9/11 attacks in 2001 on the World Trade Center and Washington resulting in the deaths of thousands of Americans.

    The head of an Islamic terror organization in Jordan - the Muslim Salafi group says he’s “happy to see the horror in America” after the bombing attacks in Boston. “American blood isn’t more precious than Muslim blood,” said Mohammad al-Chalabi, who was convicted in an al-Qaeda-linked plot to attack US and other Western diplomatic missions in Jordan in 2003.

    “Let the Americans feel the pain we endured by their armies occupying Iraq and Afghanistan and killing our people there,” he said today. A Mideast counterterrorism official based in Jordan said the blasts “carry the hallmark of an organized terrorist group, like al-Qaeda.”

    The New York Post has reported that at least 12 people are dead and over 100 injured – including up to 15 with amputated limbs – after two bombs ripped through the finish line of the Boston Marathon.

    Some IDIOTS may be dancing on that horrible tragedy but what is wrong with the news from other side is   and murdered over 12 people at the Boston Marathon, .. so far only 3 died you fools..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #97 - April 17, 2013, 10:29 AM
    Quote from: Stardust on April 17, 2013, 10:17 AM
    I think I may have just become desensitised to hearing bad news. :/ Idk, I just don't feel much, other than a little for that young boy^ that was killed.

     you are such a sensitive girl, if you get desensitized means every one must have got bored Stardust.

    Life is not rosy Stardust..    in fact present  life of mine and I hope many others on this forum  including  your's  is millions times better than millions of folks across the globe .. So we must learn to compartmentalize.. I mean be happy with happy news and sad with sad news.. And forum like this is read by 1000s across the globe .. if you could influence one or two  to do right things and don't  let them get in to wrong crowd ..   that is good enough ..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #98 - April 17, 2013, 11:12 AM

    The sad thing is that Muslims themselves don't seem to care that much about the suicide bombings that happen in Iraq, Pakistan, Nigeria and other places - partly because they have become used to them happening, but also partly because the suicide bombings happen for reasons that are too painful to introspect about - Sunni / Shia feuding, attacking secularists as happened yesterday in Pakistan when the ANP party was bombed killing 9 people including children.

    This is a raw truth about the self-righteousness on display. Pointing the finger at non Muslims saying 'they' don't care about 'our' suffering when so often Muslims themselves don't care for the suffering of Muslims, let alone that of non Muslims too.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #99 - April 17, 2013, 11:40 AM
    Quote from: yeezevee on April 17, 2013, 10:07 AM

    I have not read many of the responses but  Stardust  and Cato..  you guys have to explain bit here to this fool...

    1). what is important to this forum and what kind of news is important for you guys?

    Now tell me another news story that beats the above news..  and concisely explain what kind of discussions and debates are  better to this forum?




    Its not the matter of what news is important for the forum to be posted and discussed, I'm talking about the way these so-called international media are being selective of what kind of news they should report and how they present it to the audience can be off-putting. Its also not about whose condition is fucked up contest thingy and I'm not saying they shouldn't report the news just because its from America. If the cables news channels or media that considers themselves as international are going to report news to their audience, they should be less sensational when it comes to Ameirca. I don't need to be bombarded with this 24/7 on internet and TV just so they can get my emotions worked up.
    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #100 - April 17, 2013, 11:49 AM
    Quote from: billy on April 17, 2013, 11:12 AM
    The sad thing is that Muslims themselves don't seem to care that much about the suicide bombings that happen in Iraq, Pakistan, Nigeria and other places - partly because they have become used to them happening, but also partly because the suicide bombings happen for reasons that are too painful to introspect about - Sunni / Shia feuding, attacking secularists as happened yesterday in Pakistan when the ANP party was bombed killing 9 people including children.

    This is a raw truth about the self-righteousness on display. Pointing the finger at non Muslims saying 'they' don't care about 'our' suffering when so often Muslims themselves don't care for the suffering of Muslims, let alone that of non Muslims too.


    I get the feeling that for many muslims, it's not the fact that muslims are being killed that is the issue, but that the ones doing the killing are non-muslims.
    I seem to remember seeing a preacher once that made an anology to a family and that no matter how much the family might squabble between itself, only once outsiders decide to meddle does their collective pride become hurt.
    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #101 - April 17, 2013, 12:46 PM
     
    well Cato this post  
    Quote from: Cato on April 17, 2013, 11:40 AM
    Its not the matter of what news is important for the forum to be posted and discussed, I'm talking about the way these so-called international media are being selective of what kind of news they should report and how they present it to the audience can be off-putting. Its also not about whose condition is fucked up contest thingy and I'm not saying they shouldn't report the news just because its from America. If the cables news channels or media that considers themselves as international are going to report news to their audience, they should be less sensational when it comes to Ameirca. I don't need to be bombarded with this 24/7 on internet and TV just so they can get my emotions worked up.

    and the other one from you have different tones and different angle..  these words
    Quote
    That being said,I can't say how irk I am at some people making accusations towards muslims because its a bomb. Yes, we are aware of the talibans,suicide bombing and shit but that doesn't mean you should turn into Robert Spencer type and point fingers at muslims without proof which is silly and idiotic Roll Eyes..

     indirectly points out CEMB is becoming or parallels  Robert Spencer types..

    Anyways still I will respond to you but meanwhile a  good friend sent me a link  of Egyptian Islamic hero..  let me watch it..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JrLsz-AIuzY
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #102 - April 17, 2013, 01:02 PM
    Excellent article here about the Saudi guy who was initially suspected....

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/04/the-saudi-marathon-man.html#commentAnchor_nyr_2000000002234628
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #103 - April 17, 2013, 01:07 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on April 17, 2013, 09:24 AM
    Well the thing I noticed yesterday was that there was a string of bombings (37, I think) all across Iraq. I'm not sure how much attention they got in the US. I suspect not much.

    ETA: Oh and of course it was Sunni on Shia violence. Al Wankers again. Roll Eyes


    Exactly! And there was a fuckiing earthquake.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #104 - April 17, 2013, 01:10 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on April 17, 2013, 10:29 AM
    you are such a sensitive girl, if you get desensitized means every one must have got bored Stardust.

    Life is not rosy Stardust..    in fact present  life of mine and I hope many others on this forum  including  your's  is millions times better than millions of folks across the globe .. So we must learn to compartmentalize.. I mean be happy with happy news and sad with sad news.. And forum like this is read by 1000s across the globe .. if you could influence one or two  to do right things and don't  let them get in to wrong crowd ..   that is good enough ..


    First time I heard you say something productive  Cheesy Cheesy
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #105 - April 17, 2013, 01:59 PM
    Quote from: kutta on April 17, 2013, 01:10 PM
    First time I heard you say something productive  Cheesy Cheesy

    kutta i am a BIGGER DOG..

    and  have more sensitive nose and laser beams  as  eyes..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovcrRa5NDWU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhXLgDGh9Ws

    and..and...  i want know where that rascal picked up that picture you see in that first video   at 4 mts and 29 seconds

    pathetic fools and pathetic propaganda..


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #106 - April 17, 2013, 02:11 PM
    @Cato

    I like how you admit it. A lot of tweets from yesterday were about Iraq (blabla boston, but what about blabla iraq?).
    It's like, yeah thanks for the concern, but why are you making some comparison to Boston? It's not that I don't appreciate sympathy, but it didn;t feel genuine. It's like every boy and girl want to have a little say for a minute. Then forget.

    It's important to acknowledge things in their contexts too. Iraq is going through some bad government demands/changes. The Kurds want more power, the Sunnis and Shias, the Jaysh Al-Mahdi, AQ. Since they are having elections, it would get very bloody and people expect it. My family would stay away from government buildings for example. Or in more extreme cases, pack up and leave the city. They did this in 2004 and never went back since.

    Quote from: billy on April 17, 2013, 11:12 AM
    The sad thing is that Muslims themselves don't seem to care that much about the suicide bombings that happen in Iraq, Pakistan, Nigeria and other places - partly because they have become used to them happening, but also partly because the suicide bombings happen for reasons that are too painful to introspect about - Sunni / Shia feuding, attacking secularists as happened yesterday in Pakistan when the ANP party was bombed killing 9 people including children.

    This is a raw truth about the self-righteousness on display. Pointing the finger at non Muslims saying 'they' don't care about 'our' suffering when so often Muslims themselves don't care for the suffering of Muslims, let alone that of non Muslims too.



    Yeah this is on display everywehre I look right now. A few minutes ago I replied to some stupid girl on FB telling me that I *must* be politically active just because I am Muslim. All I can say is, people who think that way are the biggest hypocrites. I wont see her saying shit about Shia because of her Sunnism. I am politically aware but I admit, only for certain topics/regions because they relate to me. These topics are constantly on my mind. As for her and others like her, she is an opportunist who likes to demand how people should think and feel when things like this happen. I got so mad at what she wrote. "you are Muslim, it is your responsibility* Oh please.
    Quote from: ZooBear 

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  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #107 - April 17, 2013, 05:25 PM
    Interesting they found a suspect. And its the same "Be on the Alert" person they had yesterday: A dark skinned guy with a dark hoodie with a foreign accent.....We'll find about it at 5pm
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #108 - April 17, 2013, 06:00 PM
    There's been an arrest made.  Not much information yet, just that its a young male.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #109 - April 17, 2013, 06:47 PM
    Now there's a report saying that no arrest has been made.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #110 - April 17, 2013, 06:50 PM
    Yep False alert
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #111 - April 17, 2013, 06:53 PM
     Roll Eyes

    I wish the media would wait till they have actual news to report. 
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #112 - April 17, 2013, 06:55 PM
    Quote from: z10 on April 17, 2013, 11:49 AM
    I get the feeling that for many muslims, it's not the fact that muslims are being killed that is the issue, but that the ones doing the killing are non-muslims.
    I seem to remember seeing a preacher once that made an anology to a family and that no matter how much the family might squabble between itself, only once outsiders decide to meddle does their collective pride become hurt.


    Yup, also like the people who say 'females in my family should cover up fully' in fb polls yet sharing pics of especially non-Muslim women in low cut tops and gawping. They would hate it if their own but as it is not it is OK? Non-Muslims deserve less respect?  
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #113 - April 17, 2013, 07:25 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on April 17, 2013, 06:53 PM
    I wish the media would wait till they have actual news to report. 

    It's the media. The race to be first is more important than the race to be most accurate.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #114 - April 17, 2013, 07:50 PM
    Quote from: cato
    Finally, I'm sick of watching the hypocrisy of the "so-called International media" that keeps bombarding us with the news 24/7 including some newspapers here copy-pasting AFP/Reuters page. Of course I'm not saying attacks at any place other than USA is more or less worse(inb4 someone says that) but if you ask me if I really give a damn about the news, I'd be lying if I say yes. So much for the horrible shit that is happening in this world that I can't really put an effort to care about this.


    It feels like the news in the US is exclusively covering the Boston attack and not reporting anything else. Which is a little annoying. Then you flip over to the Spanish channels and they are exclusively covering the elections in Venezuela and barely mentioning the Boston attacks. Meanwhile there has been an earthquake in Iran, apparently the worst in 40 years that has already killed more than 10 times that in Boston, and I only heard about that on the BBC news.

    The focus on the USA is definitely disproportional, and the story is getting pretty old. But to be fair, Muslims in the last few years have made it pretty clear that they do not want our sympathy or our help, Westerners engaging in humanitarian causes in Muslim countries are often targeted by extremists and kidnappers. And how many times have I heard from Muslims that Western civilians working on reconstruction projects in Iraq or Afghanistan are part of the "occupation" and are therefore legitimate targets? The message is pretty clear, they want us to leave them alone, so why should Western media take any interest in the region?
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #115 - April 17, 2013, 08:37 PM
    Quote from: allat on April 17, 2013, 12:21 AM
    It means I love you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ILY_sign

    Thanks !
    Quote from: Cheetah on April 17, 2013, 01:02 PM
    Excellent article here about the Saudi guy who was initially suspected....

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/04/the-saudi-marathon-man.html#commentAnchor_nyr_2000000002234628

    He was suspected ? I mean, other than by the stupid media looking for a scoop ?
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #116 - April 17, 2013, 08:43 PM
    Yes, he was.  His house was searched and his housemate questioned for five hours, so I would say that's a hint that he was suspected.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #117 - April 17, 2013, 08:45 PM
    Quote from: sa397 on April 15, 2013, 11:18 PM
    A Facebook 'friend' updated his status...

    "I Dnt giv a fuk abwt hw many kufars died in boston.. medias gone crazy... WERS THE MEDIA IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES... WHY ENT THEY SHWING PPL THE TRUTH ON WHATS RELI HAPPENIN TO OUR POOR BRUVAS N SISTERS !!!!! FUK ALL YOU JEWS !!!!"

    Ignorant idiot.

    Ignorant、yes、but part of his point remains valid: take the anger、shock and disgust at this atrocity and remember that pain and rage every time you hear about bombings anywhere in the world。

    The only appropriate stance is unconditional solidarity with all victims。
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #118 - April 17, 2013, 09:24 PM
    I think I commented on this before saying that, the media bias towards Western disasters vesus the ones in the Middle East because of the rarity. Bombings, drone attacks etc. are so common the media is bored of it. I wouldn't have known about the earthquake in Iran if I didn't check online news it's all about Boston.

    Also you're friend is funny because for every Jew there is like 1000 Muslims or something. They are so low in numbers yet they get blamed for everything, it should be embarrassment for Muslims.
    ***~Church is where bad people go to hide~***
  • Boston marathon bombing
     Reply #119 - April 18, 2013, 02:24 AM
      Walid Shoebat on Boston Marathon Bombing Incident

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmXHhOG9AM

    - Obama Administration Staged Terror Attack! Boston Marathon _American -Alex Jones  theory
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFtHGH9UFmQ
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