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  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     OP - March 23, 2013, 06:25 PM
    hi everyone,

    i left islam quite a while ago, in 2008, and funnily enough, the spark that started my 3 year journey of denial, confusion, and acceptance was a website my muslim friend showed me that ridiculed judaism (thebricktestament.com) back in 2005, but the website is an equal opportunity religion-basher so there was a link to FFI in it, and thus began my long journey. isn't it ironic that i left islam because a muslim guy tried to show me how ridiculous judaism is. lol.

    anyway, hope to take part in interesting topics here, and also share some challenges i'm facing currently relating to religion. cheers!
    The right to think the unthinkable, discuss the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #1 - March 23, 2013, 08:00 PM
    Hi, welcome to the forum. Great to have you here!  Afro
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #2 - March 23, 2013, 08:52 PM
    Welcome to the forum.   signwelcome
    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #3 - March 23, 2013, 09:24 PM
     hey man i am myself a new ex-muslim  Smiley i left islam almost a week ago , but my denial  journey began 5 or 6 years ago.  
    Doth some one say that there be gods above? There are not; no, there are not. Let no fool, Led by the old false fable, thus deceive you.
    --Euripides (480 BC - 408 BC)
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #4 - March 24, 2013, 12:10 AM
    Hi! Welcome grin12 parrot
    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #5 - March 24, 2013, 12:15 AM
    Welcome on the forum!

    I'm not an ex-muslim myself but I'm glad to see that we don't even need to expose Islam in order for some Muslims to reconsider their religion Smiley
    If the abrahamic god judged himself according to his own moral standards, he'd go to hell.

    He's jealous, full of pride, he created evil, he doesn't heal sick people while he could, he's attacking people who are weaker than him, he follows his own desires and he commits murders all the time.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #6 - March 24, 2013, 01:10 AM
    Snap. I'm a Bangladeshi ex-Muslim too. Welcome to the forum even though I'm sort of new as well. Smiley
    free |frē| - Not under the control or in the power of another; able to act or be done as one wishes.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #7 - March 24, 2013, 02:14 AM
    Hi!  bunny

    I used to be married to a Bangladeshi Muslim.

    Welcome to the forum.  parrot
    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #8 - March 24, 2013, 05:13 AM
    Quote from: billy on March 23, 2013, 08:00 PM
    Hi, welcome to the forum. Great to have you here!  Afro


    Quote from: inter329 on March 23, 2013, 09:24 PM
    hey man i am myself a new ex-muslim  Smiley i left islam almost a week ago , but my denial  journey began 5 or 6 years ago.  


    Quote from: Jila on March 24, 2013, 12:10 AM
    Hi! Welcome grin12 parrot


    thanks. @inter329, welcome to the ex-muslim fold, and wow, 6 years is a long time. how are you holding up?

    Quote from: Lluvia on March 24, 2013, 12:15 AM
    Welcome on the forum!

    I'm not an ex-muslim myself but I'm glad to see that we don't even need to expose Islam in order for some Muslims to reconsider their religion Smiley


    thanks. what's your religious background, if any?

    Quote from: sa397 on March 24, 2013, 01:10 AM
    Snap. I'm a Bangladeshi ex-Muslim too. Welcome to the forum even though I'm sort of new as well. Smiley


    do you live in bangladesh? i haven't been there since 2010 and these days, after all the incidents relating to the shahbag movement, it makes me uncomfortable to think about going there again. did you hear about the university students, led by a mullah mastermind, who killed the allegedly atheist blogger? apostasy killings NEVER happen in bangladesh. i was shocked.
    The right to think the unthinkable, discuss the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #9 - March 24, 2013, 05:15 AM
    Quote from: Nour on March 24, 2013, 02:14 AM
    Hi!  bunny

    I used to be married to a Bangladeshi Muslim.

    Welcome to the forum.  parrot


    thanks. did you marry him when you were muslim?
    The right to think the unthinkable, discuss the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #10 - March 24, 2013, 10:17 AM
    Welcome to the forum Optimus Prime  Smiley

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #11 - March 24, 2013, 10:21 AM
    Welcome Optimus prime parrot That's an awesome apostasy story btw bunny
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #12 - March 24, 2013, 10:39 AM
    Welcome, optimus bhai. I'm also Bengali (but I've never been Bangladeshi - my dad didn't fancy it much after 1971). As local custom dictates, allow me to present you with a complimentary  parrot and  bunny.
    Before it gets too late, you will find escape.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #13 - March 24, 2013, 10:51 AM
    Quote from: Cato on March 24, 2013, 10:17 AM
    Welcome to the forum Optimus Prime  Smiley


    Quote from: Al-Alethia on March 24, 2013, 10:21 AM
    Welcome Optimus prime parrot That's an awesome apostasy story btw bunny


     thnkyu yeah the story is quite interesting. would've been better if the guy who sent me the link was an extremist-type muslim though. i think he was back then, but he's very liberal now. anyway, here's a classic from the brick testament/old testament - http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/when_to_stone_your_children/dt21_18a.html

    ^it's always good to know when to stone your kids  dance
    The right to think the unthinkable, discuss the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #14 - March 24, 2013, 10:53 AM
    Quote from: toor on March 24, 2013, 10:39 AM
    Welcome, optimus bhai. I'm also Bengali (but I've never been Bangladeshi - my dad didn't fancy it much after 1971). As local custom dictates, allow me to present you with a complimentary  parrot and  bunny.


    hello! so when did you become an infidel?  parrot
    The right to think the unthinkable, discuss the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #15 - March 24, 2013, 12:07 PM
    Officially, a couple of years or so. Unofficially, a few years longer, to the extent that I saw being Muslim as a political identity despite not really believing in God.

    It's surprising how not having to apologise for bearded monomaniacs makes life more bearable  Wink
    Before it gets too late, you will find escape.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #16 - March 24, 2013, 12:30 PM
    Quote from: optimusprime on March 24, 2013, 05:13 AM
    thanks. what's your religious background, if any?

    I was baptized Catholic and I'm born in a christian family (my parents don't believe and practice but some members of my family do). But I was never religious and I never really believed in any religion.
    I almost converted to Islam though... But I didn't and I finally saw Islam is a fraud and that's why I'm here.
    If the abrahamic god judged himself according to his own moral standards, he'd go to hell.

    He's jealous, full of pride, he created evil, he doesn't heal sick people while he could, he's attacking people who are weaker than him, he follows his own desires and he commits murders all the time.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #17 - March 24, 2013, 12:39 PM
    ^ Just out of curiosity, what led you to Islam in the first place?
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #18 - March 24, 2013, 12:58 PM
    First I moved to a city where there are mosques (I used to live in the countryside where there is one church per village), so I was in a context where I could have convert easily. Approximately 2 years after I moved here, I had 2 weird dreams which stayed on my mind... Then I met a Muslim guy (on the internet) who introduced me to Islam and by talking to this guy and by doing searches about Islam, I related my personal story and mainly my dreams to the fact that maybe I "should" become a Muslim and that it was maybe "signs from God"...

    This is the very shortened version of how I almost became a Muslim but I think the main thing is the dreams that I had.
    If the abrahamic god judged himself according to his own moral standards, he'd go to hell.

    He's jealous, full of pride, he created evil, he doesn't heal sick people while he could, he's attacking people who are weaker than him, he follows his own desires and he commits murders all the time.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #19 - March 24, 2013, 02:46 PM
    ^ Thanks for sharing Smiley Lucky you never got sucked into it.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #20 - March 24, 2013, 02:52 PM
    Welcome, there's quite a few Bangladeshi ex-muslims..
    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #21 - March 24, 2013, 03:24 PM
    Quote from: Lluvia on March 24, 2013, 12:58 PM
    First I moved to a city where there are mosques (I used to live in the countryside where there is one church per village), so I was in a context where I could have convert easily. Approximately 2 years after I moved here, I had 2 weird dreams which stayed on my mind... Then I met a Muslim guy (on the internet) who introduced me to Islam and by talking to this guy and by doing searches about Islam, I related my personal story and mainly my dreams to the fact that maybe I "should" become a Muslim and that it was maybe "signs from God"...

    This is the very shortened version of how I almost became a Muslim but I think the main thing is the dreams that I had.


    that sounds like quite an interesting story. are you a spiritual person? do you believe in astrology/numerology/fatalism? i think we humans do have a tendency to look for "signs" of things, and we look for commonalities between things, affirmations, and forcing meaning into coincidences. but we always skip over the things that don't "hit". i'm not sure if i'm expressing the idea properly, but in essence, it's superstition. in the region where i live, people here often don't believe in god, but superstition regarding luck, fate, chance, success, and misfortune, is inbuilt in the culture.

    i'm not sure myself if signs/coincidences/fatalism are true, but this quote by francis bacon always puts me back to reality - The general root of superstition is that men observe when things hit, and not when they miss, and commit to memory the one, and pass over the other.

    http://atheism.about.com/od/weeklyquotes/a/bacon01.htm
    The right to think the unthinkable, discuss the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #22 - March 24, 2013, 03:26 PM
    Quote from: Stardust on March 24, 2013, 02:52 PM
    Welcome, there's quite a few Bangladeshi ex-muslims..


    oh interesting. are people on this forum mostly from south asia?
    The right to think the unthinkable, discuss the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #23 - March 24, 2013, 03:29 PM
    Quote from: toor on March 24, 2013, 12:07 PM
    Officially, a couple of years or so. Unofficially, a few years longer, to the extent that I saw being Muslim as a political identity despite not really believing in God.

    It's surprising how not having to apologise for bearded monomaniacs makes life more bearable  Wink


    are you out in the open about your beliefs? i wish we could all come out of the closet to muslims.
    The right to think the unthinkable, discuss the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #24 - March 24, 2013, 06:26 PM
    Quote from: optimusprime on March 24, 2013, 03:26 PM
    oh interesting. are people on this forum mostly from south asia?

    I wouldn't say mostly but there's definitely a large number of them; I'm guessing they're the largest ethnic group here but we're overall quite a mixed bag Smiley
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #25 - March 24, 2013, 06:57 PM
    Quote from: optimusprime on March 24, 2013, 03:24 PM
    that sounds like quite an interesting story. are you a spiritual person? do you believe in astrology/numerology/fatalism? i think we humans do have a tendency to look for "signs" of things, and we look for commonalities between things, affirmations, and forcing meaning into coincidences. but we always skip over the things that don't "hit". i'm not sure if i'm expressing the idea properly, but in essence, it's superstition. in the region where i live, people here often don't believe in god, but superstition regarding luck, fate, chance, success, and misfortune, is inbuilt in the culture.

    i'm not sure myself if signs/coincidences/fatalism are true, but this quote by francis bacon always puts me back to reality - The general root of superstition is that men observe when things hit, and not when they miss, and commit to memory the one, and pass over the other.

    http://atheism.about.com/od/weeklyquotes/a/bacon01.htm

    You are totally right about the fact that we focus on things which "hit" and ignore the rest.

    I definitely not believe in those kinds of superstition, especially astrology and numeroly which I find stupid. lipsrsealed For a few years I struggled with the belief in destiny, I wanted to believe in destiny but had no proof... Now I think that things are what they are because otherwise they would be different... and we would wonder why things aren't like they are right now... lol. Not sure if this is clear, but my point is we have no particular reason to believe in determinism/destiny.
    If the abrahamic god judged himself according to his own moral standards, he'd go to hell.

    He's jealous, full of pride, he created evil, he doesn't heal sick people while he could, he's attacking people who are weaker than him, he follows his own desires and he commits murders all the time.
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #26 - March 24, 2013, 10:38 PM
    hi and welcome  Smiley
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #27 - March 25, 2013, 12:10 AM
    Quote from: optimusprime on March 24, 2013, 05:15 AM
    thanks. did you marry him when you were muslim?


    Yes, I did.

    After a few years though I just couldn't do it anymore and we separated and divorced after 6 years together.

    If you go to Singlemuslim.com and do a video search on Muhammad and Catherine you can see him with his new wife.
    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #28 - March 25, 2013, 01:12 AM
    ^

    Is this the video your talking about ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR0VBPLQqj8
    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • a bangladeshi ex-muslim here
     Reply #29 - March 25, 2013, 03:13 AM
    Yes.
    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
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