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  • List of Quranic and Hadith references to support atrocities
     OP - October 20, 2012, 04:42 PM

    Wondering if you guys can help me out. I'm trying to compile a list of Islamic references from the Quran and Hadith that literalist and extremist Muslims today use to justify their horrendous acts. I'd like all you guys to give me examples you know of with references and if you know of how apologists try to excuse that verse and justify it please jot that down too.

    This verse for example from the Quran:
    "O you who have believed, prescribed for you is legal retribution for those murdered - the free for the free, the slave for the slave, and the female for the female. But whoever overlooks from his brother anything, then there should be a suitable follow-up and payment to him with good conduct. This is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy. But whoever transgresses after that will have a painful punishment."
    - 2:178

    Is this verse not simple justifying killing innocents from the other side if they kill one if your innocents? How do apologists explain or justify this verse?

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  • Re: List of Quranic and Hadith references to support atrocities
     Reply #1 - October 20, 2012, 04:46 PM

    I don't endorse this website, but it seems to have a pretty well-compiled list.

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

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  • Re: List of Quranic and Hadith references to support atrocities
     Reply #2 - October 20, 2012, 07:43 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTz6EPjqgZU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDiC6KVBZUk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUVxxjuK-JI


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_PsH1wtTo0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3RXjf0Y3Ak

    these idiots talk about   ..Sir Syed Ahmad Khan, KCSI[1] (Urdu: سر سید احمد خان) born Syed Ahmad Taqvi (Urdu: سید احمد تقوی), on October 17, 1817 – died March 27, 1898,

    http://aligarhmovement.com/sir_syed

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  • Re: List of Quranic and Hadith references to support atrocities
     Reply #3 - October 22, 2012, 01:08 PM

    usama bin laden quoted 7 parts of the quran in his justification for violent jihad

    that would be good
  • Re: List of Quranic and Hadith references to support atrocities
     Reply #4 - October 22, 2012, 01:33 PM

    usama bin laden quoted 7 parts of the quran in his justification for violent jihad

    that would be good

     hmm..  that is indeed good stuff serpentofeden

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orawG7vt68o

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kqpZGBOKZQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnwDr6BwF2Q

    One rogue can ruin lives of  millions and millions   across the globe with stupid religious nonsense.....



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  • Re: List of Quranic and Hadith references to support atrocities
     Reply #5 - October 31, 2012, 12:48 PM

    Pepe

    You might find these useful:

    The Ruling on Jihad and its Divisions


    http://www.e-prism.org/images/The_Ruling_on_Jihad_and_its_Divisions_-_Yousef_Uyery.pdf

    Was Islam spread by the sword?

    http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/43087/islam%20spread%20by%20the%20sword

    Quote
    Was Islam spread by the sword?.

    Praise be to Allaah. 
    We have already stated in question no. 34830 that jihad is of two types: taking the initiative in fighting and jihad in self-defence. 

    Undoubtedly taking the initiative in fighting has a great effect in spreading Islam and bringing people into the religion of Allaah in crowds. Hence the hearts of the enemies of Islam are  filled with fear of jihad.

    In the English-language Muslim World Magazine it says: There should be some kind of fear in the western world, one of the causes of which is that since the time it first appeared in Makkah, Islam has never decreased in numbers, rather it has always continued to increase and spread. Moreover Islam is not only a religion, rather one of its pillars is jihad.

    Robert Bean says: The Muslims conquered the entire world before and they could do it again.

    The Orientalists wanted to slander Islam by claiming that it was spread by the sword.

    The orientalist Thomas Arnold wrote his book The Preaching of Islam with the aim of killing off the spirit of jihad among the Muslims and proving that Islam was not spread by the sword, rather that it spread by means of peaceful preaching, free from any use of force.

    The Muslims fell into the trap that was set up for them. When they heard the orientalists’ accusations that Islam was spread by the sword, they said: You are mistaken, listen to a refutation from one of your own people, this Thomas says such and such.

    The defeatists among the Muslims come out to defend Islam, and they want to disavow Islam of this so-called lie, so they deny that Islam was spread by the sword, and they say that jihad is not prescribed in Islam, except in the case of self-defence. There is no such thing in Islam as taking the initiative in fighting in their view. This goes against what the Muslim scholars have stated, let alone the fact that it goes against the Qur’aan and Sunnah.

    Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 28/263.

    The purpose is that all religion should be for Allaah alone, and that the word of Allaah should be supreme. The word of Allaah is a comprehensive phrase that refers to His words that are contained in His Book. Hence Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “Indeed We have sent Our Messengers with clear proofs, and revealed with them the Scripture and the Balance (justice) that mankind may keep up justice”

    [al-Hadeed 57:25]

    The purpose behind sending the Messengers and revealing the Books was so that mankind might keep up justice with regard to the rights of Allaah and the rights of His creation. Then Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “And We brought forth iron wherein is mighty power (in matters of war), as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allaah may test who it is that will help Him (His religion) and His Messengers in the unseen”

    [al-Hadeed 27:25]

    So whoever deviates from the Book is to be brought back with iron, i.e. by force. Hence the soundness of the religion is based on the Qur’aan and the Sword. It was narrated that Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) commanded us to strike with this, meaning the sword, whoever turns away from this, meaning the Qur’aan.

    Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Faroosiyyah (p.18):

    Allaah sent him – meaning the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) – with the guiding Book and the conquering sword, ahead of the Hour, so that Allaah alone would be worshipped with no partner or associate, and his provision was placed beneath the shade of his sword and spear. Allaah has established the religion of Islam with proof and evidence, and with the sword and spear, both together and inseparable.

    This is some of the evidence from the Qur’aan and Sunnah. The evidence clearly indicates that the sword is one of the most important means that led to the spread of Islam.

    1 – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “For had it not been that Allaah checks one set of people by means of another, monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, wherein the Name of Allaah is mentioned much would surely, have been pulled down. Verily, Allaah will help those who help His (Cause). Truly, Allaah is All-Strong, All-Mighty”

    [al-Hajj 22:40]

    “And if Allaah did not check one set of people by means of another, the earth would indeed be full of mischief. But Allaah is full of bounty to the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn and all that exists)”

    [al-Baqarah 2:251]

    2 – Allaah has commanded us to prepare the means of fighting against the kuffaar and frightening them. He says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war (tanks, planes, missiles, artillery) to threaten the enemy of Allaah and your enemy, and others besides whom, you may not know but whom Allaah does know”

    [al-Anfaal 8:60]

    If Islam was only spread by peaceful means, what would the kuffaar have to be afraid of? Of mere words spoken on the tongue? In al-Saheehayn it is narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I have been supported with fear as far as a month’s journey.” Would the kuffaar be afraid of being told, “become Muslim, but if you do not then you are free to believe and do whatever you want”? or were they afraid of jihad and the imposition of the jizyah and being humiliated? That may make them enter Islam so that they may be spared this humiliation.

    3 – When the Messenger called people to Islam, his call was accompanied by the sword, and he commanded his leaders to do likewise, so that when the people saw the serious of the Muslims in calling people to their religion, that dispelled any confusion.

    Al-Bukhaari (3009) and Muslim (2406) narrated that Sahl ibn Sa’d (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said on the day of Khaybar: “Tomorrow I will give the banner to a man at whose hands victory will come, one who loves Allaah and His Messenger, and Allaah and His Messenger love him.” The people spent that night wondering which of them would be given the banner and all of them were hoping for it. Then he (the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) said, “Where is ‘Ali?” It was said, “His eye is hurting.” So he spat in his eyes and made du’aa’ for him, and he was healed, as if there had not been anything wrong with him. Then he gave him the flag and he [‘Ali] said: “Shall I fight them so that they will be like us?” He said: “Go ahead, until you reach their encampment, then call them to Islam and tell them what they are obliged to do, for by Allaah if Allaah were to guide a man at your hands that would be better for you than having red camels [the best kind].”

    So this call to Islam was accompanied by the force of arms.

    Muslim (3261) narrated that Buraydah said: When the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) appointed a commander to lead an army or a raiding party, he would advise him to fear Allaah with regard to himself and the Muslims with him, then he said: “Fight in the name of Allaah and for the sake of Allaah. Fight those who disbelieve in Allaah, fight but do not steal from the war booty (before it is shared out), betray, or mutilate. Do not kill children. If you meet your enemy of the mushrikeen, call them to three things, and whichever one of them they respond to, accept that from them and leave them alone.  Then call them to Islam and if they respond, accept that from them and leave them alone. If they refuse but they pay the jizyah, then they have responded to you, so accept that from them and leave them alone. If they refuse then seek the help of Allaah and fight them…”

    So the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told his commanders to call the kuffaar to Islam whilst wielding their swords over their heads. If they refused to become Muslim then they should pay the jizyah with humility. If they refused then there was nothing left for them but the sword – “If they refuse then seek the help of Allaah and fight them”

    4 – The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I have been sent ahead of the Hour with the sword so that Allaah will be worshipped alone, and my provision has been placed in the shade of my spear, and humiliation has been decreed for those who go against my command, and whoever imitates a people is one of them.”  Narrated by Ahmad, 4869; Saheeh al-Jaami’, 2831.

    The fact that the sword and power were means of spreading Islam is not a sources of shame for Islam, rather it is one of its strengths and virtues, because that makes people adhere to that which will benefit them in this world and in the Hereafter. Many people are foolish and lacking in wisdom and knowledge, and if they are left to their own devices they will remain blinded to the truth, indulging in their whims and desires. So Allaah has prescribed jihad in order to bring them back to the truth and to that which will benefit them. Undoubtedly wisdom dictates that the fool should be prevented from doing that which will harm him, and should be forced to do that which will benefit him.

    Al-Bukhaari (4557) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “ ‘You (true believers in Islamic Monotheism, and real followers of Prophet Muhammad and his Sunnah) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind’ [Aal- Imraan 3:110 – interpretation of the meaning].” He said: “You are the best (i.e., the most beneficial) of people for mankind, you bring them in the chains that are around their necks until they enter Islam.” Can people be brought in chains except in the case of jihad??

    This is something for which Islam deserves to be praised, not condemned. The defeatists should fear Allaah lest they distort this religion and cause it to become weak on the basis of the claim that it is a religion of peace. Yes, it is the religion of peace but in the sense of saving all of mankind from worshipping anything other than Allaah and submitting all of mankind to the rule of Allaah. This is the religion of Allaah, not the ideas of any person or the product of human thought, so that those who promote it should feel ashamed to state its ultimate goal, which is that all religion (worship) should be for Allaah alone. When the ideas that people follow are all produced by human beings and the systems and laws that control their lives are all made up by human beings, then in this case each idea and each system has the right to live safely within its own borders so long as it does not transgress the borders of others, so the various ideas and laws can co-exist and not try to destroy one another. But when there is a divine system and law, and alongside it there are human systems and laws, then the matter is fundamentally different, and the divine law has the right to remove the barriers and free people from enslavement to human beings…

     Fiqh al-Da’wah by Sayyid Qutb, 217-222.

    It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah (12/14): 

    Islam spread by means of proof and evidence to those who listened to the message and responded to it, and it spread by means of force and the sword to those who were stubborn and arrogant, until they were overwhelmed and became no longer stubborn, and submitted to that reality.

    And Allaah knows best.


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  • Re: List of Quranic and Hadith references to support atrocities
     Reply #6 - October 31, 2012, 02:19 PM

    An old post from Hassan

    I was collecting some of the violent verses and hadith etc for someone and so thought I'd post them here just for reference.

    Qur'an

    "Slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.." (9:5)

    "Fight the unbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you. (9:123)

    "Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain." (9:111)

    "Fight those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low. ." (9:29)

    "Fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah." (8:39)

    "Fight them! Allah will chastise them at your hands, and He will lay them low and give you victory over them, and He will heal the breasts of folk who are believers. " (9:14)

    "O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence. " (8:65)

    "O ye who believe! What aileth you that when it is said unto you: Go forth in the way of Allah, ye are bowed down to the ground with heaviness. Take ye pleasure in the life of the world rather than in the Hereafter? The comfort of the life of the world is but little in the Hereafter. " (9:38)

    "Fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers. " (2:193)

    "When ye meet the unbelievers in battle, then it is smiting of the necks (chop off their heads) until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of bonds (take captives); and afterward either grace (let them go) or ransom them, till the war lay down its burdens. That (is the ordinance). And if Allah willed He could have punished them (without you) but (thus it is ordained) that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He rendereth not their actions vain. " (47:4)

    "Fight in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is Hearer, Knower." (2:244)

    "Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure. " (61:4)

    "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." (4:74)

    "So fight (O Muhammad) in the way of Allah Thou art not taxed (with the responsibility for anyone) except thyself - and urge on the believers. Peradventure Allah will restrain the might of those who disbelieve. Allah is stronger in might and stronger in inflicting punishment." (4:84)

    "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward" (4:95)

    "He who forsakes his home in the cause of Allah, finds in the earth Many a refuge, wide and spacious: Should he die as a refugee from home for Allah and His Messenger, His reward becomes due and sure with Allah: And Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. " (4:100)

    "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain, and you hope from Allah what they do not hope; and Allah is Knowing, Wise.." (4:104)

    "Do not think that those who are killed in the way of Allah are dead, for indeed they are alive, even though you are not aware." (3.169 )

    "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end."  (9:73)

    "And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease, then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do." (8:39)

    "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly." (8:60)

    "Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward." (4:74)

    "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless manoeuvring for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end." (8.15-15)


    Verse often quoted to say killing innocents is not allowed:

    On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person - unless it be in retaliation for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew all mankind: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all humanity.  (5.32) (NOTE: What they fail to mention is what constitutes spreading “mischief” in Islam. Looking to other verses found within the Quran, mischief can and does apply to someone who simply does not accept Islam and this loophole allows a huge variety of people to be accused of "spreading mischief".)



    Hadith

    "I have been ordered to fight against all the people until they testify that there is no god but Allah" (Bukhari)

    "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify to the fact that there is no god but Allah, and believe in me (that) I am the Messenger and in all that I have brought." (Muslim)

    "The Prophet said: 'I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prostration prayer, and pay Zakat. If they do it, their blood and property are protected.'" (Muslim)

    'Who fights so that the word of Allah is exalted is fighting in the Way of Allah.'" (Muslim)


    Permission for killing innocents:

    "The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." (Bukhari)

    It is narrated by Sa'b b. Jaththama that he said (to the Holy Prophet)" Messenger of Allah, we kill the children of the polytheists during the night raids". He said: "They are from them". (Muslim)

    'A single endeavor of fighting in Allah's Cause is better than the world and whatever is in it.'" ( Sahih Bukhari)
    "One who is slain in the way of Allah is a martyr" (Bukhari)
     "The Messenger said: 'Anybody who equips a warrior going to Fight in the Way of Allah is like one who actually fights ." (Muslim)

    "The Messenger said: 'One who is wounded in the Way of Allah will appear on the Day of Judgment with his wound still bleeding. The color (of discharge) will be blood, (but) its smell will be musk.'" (Muslim)

    "Our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says: 'Whoever amongst us is killed as a Martyr shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen." (Bukhari)

    13. Muslim: C34B20N4652-3 "The Merit Of Jihad And Of Keeping Vigilance Over The Enemy: A man came to the Holy Prophet and said: 'Who is the best of men?' He replied: 'A man who fights staking his life and spending his wealth in Allah's Cause.'"

    "The Prophet said: 'This religion will continue to exist, and a group of people from the Muslims will continue to Fight for its protection until the Hour is established.'" (Muslim)

     "A man came to Allah's Apostle and said, 'Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad in reward.' He replied, 'I do not find such a deed.'" (Bukhari)

    "Allah's Apostle was asked, 'What is the best deed?' He replied, 'To believe in Allah and His Apostle Muhammad.' The questioner then asked, 'What is the next best in goodness?' He replied, 'To participate in Jihad in Allah's Cause.'" (Bukhari)

    'He who fights that Allah's Word, Islam, should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause.'" (Bukhari)
    
"Believers who sit home and those who go out for Jihad in Allah's Cause are not equal." (Muslim)

    "Someone asked, 'Allah's Apostle, who is the best among the people?' He replied, 'A believer who strives his utmost in Allah's Cause with his life and property.'" (Bukhari)
    'Paradise has one hundred grades which Allah has reserved for the Mujahidin who Fight in His Cause.'" (Bukhari)

     'He who equips a warrior in the Way of Allah is like one who actually fights and he who looks after the family of a warrior in the Allah's Cause in fact participated in the battle.'" (Muslim)
    The Messenger of Allah was asked: 'What deed could be equivalent to Jihad in the Cause of Allah? He answered: 'You do not have the strength to do that deed.'The question was repeated twice or thrice. Every time he answered: 'You do not have the strength to do it.' When the question was asked for the third time, he said: 'One who goes out for Jihad is like a person who keeps fasts and stands in prayer forever, never exhibiting any weariness until the Mujihid returns from Jihad.'" (Muslim)

    'Leaving for Jihad in the Way of Allah in the morning or in the evening will merit a reward better than the world and all that is in it.'" (Muslim)

    "Muhammad stood up among his Companions to deliver his sermon in which he told them that Jihad in Allah's Cause and belief in Allah were the most meritorious of acts. A man stood and said: 'Messenger, do you think that if I am killed in the Way of Allah, my sins will be blotted out?' The Messenger said: 'Yes, in case you are killed in Allah's Cause and you always fought facing the enemy, never turning your back upon him.' (Muslim)

    "The Prophet said: 'Whoever cheerfully accepts Allah as his Lord, Islam as his Religion and Muhammad as his Apostle is necessarily entitled to enter Paradise.'Abu wondered at it and said: 'Messenger of Allah, repeat that for me.' He did that and said: 'There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth.' Abu said: 'What is that act?' He replied: 'Jihad in the Way of Allah! Jihad in Allah's Cause!'" (Muslim)

     "The Prophet said, 'Nobody who dies and finds Paradise would wish to come back to this life even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the syahids who, on seeing the superiority of syahid, would like to come back to get killed again in Allah's Cause.'" (Bukhari)




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