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  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #60 - January 15, 2013, 11:54 PM

    Check this out

    Raped in nations of bikini and raped in nations of burkha

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics


    Check this out:

    Quote
    Under reporting
    According to the American Medical Association (1995), sexual violence, and rape in particular, is considered the most under-reported violent crime.[4][5]
    The most common reasons given by victims for not reporting rapes are the belief that it is a personal or private matter, and that they fear reprisal from the assailant. A 2007 government report in England says "Estimates from research suggest that between 75 and 95 percent of rape crimes are never reported to the police."[6]
    Traditional (male-female) focused rape-related advocacy groups have suggested several tactics to encourage the reporting of sexual assaults, most of which aim at lessening the psychological trauma, often suffered by female rape victims following their assault by male rapists. Many police departments now assign female police officers to deal with rape cases. Advocacy groups also argue for the preservation of the victim's privacy during the legal process; it is standard practice among mainstream American news media not to divulge the names of alleged rape victims in news reports but this practice is becoming increasingly controversial due to well publicized cases of false rape accusations. Traditional rape-related advocacy groups are also beginning to support male-male rape victims as well as female-male rape victims. Other advocacy groups that support male victims of female rape encourage recognition of female-male rape as rape rather than as a 'love affair', a 'relationship', or as a beneficial form of sex 'education'. However, female-male and female-female rape is rarely recognized as a statistically significant form of rape despite research indicating otherwise. Thus reporting rape by females remains difficult or impossible especially in jurisdictions where rape by a female is not considered a crime or where the false perception persists that rape of a male by a female is impossible.[7]


    Tell me how often you think a rape gets reported in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. Tell me how often you think a reported rape is even taken seriously in those countries. Have you heard of how the Muslim population has a grossly exaggerated rape percentage in Nordic countries?

    There is a big difference between a burka and a bikini: If an American woman wears a burka, she might get some weird looks. If a Saudi woman wears a bikini, she'll likely be beaten, killed, raped, or all three.

    How about swimming trunks? Do you not think that wearing nothing but swim trunks would cause you to attract gay/female rapists to you as a man? If a man gets raped, who would you blame?

    I don't masturbate at bikinis or burkas. There's like 2348054 websites with full blown ( Wink) hardcore porn...

    If bikinis cause rape, why haven't I raped anyone? Why have none of my friends raped anyone? Why have we never felt the desire to rape anyone?
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #61 - January 16, 2013, 12:27 AM

    achar, go look up the meaning of marital rape and which Islamic country is the only one that even recognizes it. And if you blame women for rape, know that you will be banned from here.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #62 - January 16, 2013, 12:34 AM

    Mango pickle?


    "achar" is a common south Asian condiment, usually pickled vegetables or fruits.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #63 - January 16, 2013, 12:41 AM

    This whole talk about bikinis inciting rape really gets my blood boiling. Growing up near the Atlantic shore of the US and spending countless summer hours on the beach around hundreds of women in bikinis, I can honestly say that even as a horny teenager, not once did the urge to rape any of them ever cross my mind.

    Muslims talk so much about how women in the west are treated only as sexual objects. I think that is only an attempt to mirror the problem that really does exist in the Islamic world. In the west, women are not confined to the gutters of raunchy male fantasies; they actually exist in the real world. From pre-school upwards, women are classmates, friends, coworkers, waitresses, actresses, doctors, lawyers, and every other conceivable human position. We learn from a young age that real women come in different shapes and sizes; they have different personalities, different interests, different passions. Some women we may find attractive and some women we may not. We know them as individual human beings and can mutually chose to enter into relationships with them accordingly.

     Having lived in the Middle East and having taught hundreds of young adult Muslim men, I believe that because of the segregation that exists between men and women, these young males can never know women as equals. In many of their minds, a woman’s sole reason for existence is to satisfy that base, carnal need for sex. They never get the chance to know them in any other capacity.  In the conservative gulf culture, it is considered offensive to even acknowledge the women in another man’s life. You can never refer to them by name, and even when you need to talk about their wife or sister, you are expected to use the euphemism “your family.”

    I am no expert on rape, but I would imagine that not acknowledging a woman’s equality with men and her individuality as a human being can not help the situation.
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #64 - January 16, 2013, 12:46 AM

    Check this out

    Raped in nations of bikini and raped in nations of burkha

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics


    You think they report rapes in those countries or that their definition of rape is wide enough? Also if these are internal governmental figures, how can you trust these countries? Most are corrupt and would massage the figures or omit them to appear greater than they are.
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #65 - January 16, 2013, 12:49 AM

    "achar" is a common south Asian condiment, usually pickled vegetables or fruits.


    Ok, well achar is going in to a bit of a pickle here.
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #66 - January 16, 2013, 12:52 AM

    achar is currently restricted for rape trolling


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  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #67 - January 16, 2013, 12:53 AM

    How many rapes happen in nudist camps?  Very few, I'll bet.  There are tribes in parts of sub Saharan Africa where it is the norm for women to be topless.  What's their rate of rape like?

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #68 - January 23, 2013, 12:22 AM

    Achar

    you must be young and living in the West. Perhaps I may give you that given the choice between a burkha-clad and bikin-clad women, I'd say most times than not the bikini-clad women would attract a wank-fantasy if there had to be a choice. But if all women were burkha-clad, it would not stop masturbation, masturbation would still happen, maybe over a painted-toenail or a pair of eyes - and their is always imagination.

    Though i do think burkhas are a shield against pornographers.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #69 - January 23, 2013, 12:30 AM

    Though i do think burkhas are a shield against pornographers.

    Use your imaginatiion, man.

    Dance of the seven shrouds.
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #70 - January 23, 2013, 12:34 AM

    David - That has got to be really niche.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #71 - January 23, 2013, 07:40 AM

    But men would masterbate at only women who worn bikini not at women who worn burkha

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwIy_7Jg8uM

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #72 - January 23, 2013, 12:16 PM

    "Save the males" Cheesy
    Quote
    Her long-term personal fulfillment and happiness lies in making marriage and family her first priority.

    Feminism is another cruel New World Order hoax that has debauched American women and despoiled Western civilization. It has ruined millions of lives and represents a lethal threat to Islam.

    I am not advocating the burka but rather some of the values that it represents, specifically a woman's consecration to her future husband and family, and the modesty and dignity this entails.


    Roll Eyes x 1000000. This stuff pisses me off something awful. I think some men (like this idiot) are just afraid that women don't "need" them anymore hence they lash out with this nonsense about how a woman's life is to revolve around her servitude to a man; that's what women were made for and how they'd be the happiest.

    But men would masterbate at only women who worn bikini not at women who worn burkha

    Who gives a shit what men (or anyone for that matter) masturbate(s) to? Why should women adjust their way of dress because men might masturbate? It's a total non-sequitur and methinks you're a troll. 
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #73 - January 23, 2013, 12:17 PM

    Check this out

    Raped in nations of bikini and raped in nations of burkha

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

    In "burka nations" getting raped = lifetime of shame and loneliness for the victim hence it is covered up if it happens and doesn't show up in rape stats for that reason. In some Muslim countries rape victims are also vulnerable to punishment under laws against fornication/adultery. 
    I recall an Arab News article that surveyed some female university students in, I think, the UAE, and 80% of them said they wouldn't report it if they were raped. Even in Australia, it is estimated that a large number of sex crimes go unreported due to shame, uncertainty of what constitutes rape, etc so you can imagine how hush hush such matters would be in ultra-conservative societies obsessed with female virginity. 

  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #74 - January 23, 2013, 03:28 PM

    Also in cultures without this obsession with virginity, a raped woman can still be given a normal chance with a new husband and fresh relationships. Don't quote me on this, but I would think some men from said culture take pride on the " I'll never treat you like that, or hurt you" and are willing to prove their true affections if it is a woman they truly care about regardless if she's been 'used'. 'Other places', that is not the case, and that woman will almost never find an accepting spouse that will not see past that incident where she is no longer pure and will be hesitant to pick up a broken woman. It also has to do with family honor kind of culture. I tend to generalize things sometimes I could be wrong :p.

    ***~Church is where bad people go to hide~***
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #75 - January 23, 2013, 04:35 PM

     Here in the west men are not taught to place a value on female virginity, most men want a partner in a relationship, not a shiny new toy that other boy's haven't played with yet.
     Western women who have been raped are not debased for a crime committed against them, and the men in their lives have nothing to prove to the rest of the world because relationships should be based on mutual attraction, love and respect, none of those values are found in rapists.
     

    Women are the only exploited group in history to have been idealized into powerlessness.
    ―Erica Jong
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #76 - January 23, 2013, 06:27 PM

    Right here in England I overheard a conversation my aunt was having with another woman, where woman no. 2 told her about a well-known "bad boy" who desperately tried and failed (numerous times) to seduce a "pious, decent girl"; after many failed attempts at getting with this girl, he offered her a spiked drink, and had his way with her while she was incapacitated from being drugged.  "The poor girl then had no choice, did she?" says woman no. 2, "…so she married him". WTF! I was speechless! I almost choked on my rice. That's what rape victims have to contend with in Muslim/Eastern cultures where a high value is placed on female "purity" and virginity. I still can't forget that "story" and can't get my head around the fact that this kind of thing is happening in the West. Oh yeah, it goes without saying that that rape was obviously never reported. 
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #77 - January 26, 2013, 04:38 AM

    ^ Very sad. Mum's friend was talking about getting kidnapped in the Middle East and she goes " what else can we do if we get raped beside kill ourself? Our life would be over". Well if that's how you think then go and kill yourself instead of passing that poison onto your daughters  015

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  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #78 - September 20, 2015, 01:01 AM

    Aww, the blog's deleted. Cry Still some good stuff on this thread though.

    This whole talk about bikinis inciting rape really gets my blood boiling. Growing up near the Atlantic shore of the US and spending countless summer hours on the beach around hundreds of women in bikinis, I can honestly say that even as a horny teenager, not once did the urge to rape any of them ever cross my mind.

    Muslims talk so much about how women in the west are treated only as sexual objects. I think that is only an attempt to mirror the problem that really does exist in the Islamic world. In the west, women are not confined to the gutters of raunchy male fantasies; they actually exist in the real world. From pre-school upwards, women are classmates, friends, coworkers, waitresses, actresses, doctors, lawyers, and every other conceivable human position. We learn from a young age that real women come in different shapes and sizes; they have different personalities, different interests, different passions. Some women we may find attractive and some women we may not. We know them as individual human beings and can mutually chose to enter into relationships with them accordingly.

     Having lived in the Middle East and having taught hundreds of young adult Muslim men, I believe that because of the segregation that exists between men and women, these young males can never know women as equals. In many of their minds, a woman’s sole reason for existence is to satisfy that base, carnal need for sex. They never get the chance to know them in any other capacity.  In the conservative gulf culture, it is considered offensive to even acknowledge the women in another man’s life. You can never refer to them by name, and even when you need to talk about their wife or sister, you are expected to use the euphemism “your family.”

    I am no expert on rape, but I would imagine that not acknowledging a woman’s equality with men and her individuality as a human being can not help the situation.


    Wise words.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #79 - September 20, 2015, 01:10 AM

    Indeed.

    Heck, I know that even growing up and living in the US my entire life, internalizing fully that mindset in my childhood has had an effect on me. It's something I consciously have to try and deal with, although I've moved miles forward in that regard. Still, I know and can feel when a woman, especially one that I'm attracted to, is around me in a way that isn't the same for men. There's that internal feeling of wrongness that takes a while until I feel really, truly comfortable with such a person. I truly hope that most others aren't picking up on it, but anyway my overall view is that such a mindset and segregation makes the hypothesis of uncontrollable male lust a self-fulfilling prophesy. You're just carving out an essential part of people's humanity, and then judging the people that are thus affected by those mores and environment. Height of silly bullshit.

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  • Burka perpetuates rape culture??..
     Reply #80 - September 20, 2015, 02:43 AM

     "The poor girl then had no choice, did she?" says woman no. 2, "…so she married him". WTF! I was speechless! I almost choked on my rice. That's what rape victims have to contend with in Muslim/Eastern cultures where a high value is placed on female "purity" and virginity. I still can't forget that "story" and can't get my head around the fact that this kind of thing is happening in the West. Oh yeah, it goes without saying that that rape was obviously never reported. 

    This happened to one of my ex-girlfriends, from an indigenous tribe in Nicaragua,



    (Hastily adds: it wasn't me.)
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