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 Topic: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?

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  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #90 - April 14, 2012, 03:10 AM

    I may be an "incestophobe", but I think it should at least be granted that I'm a liberal one. Grin

    I wouldn't go all Westboro Baptist Church on people, or picket their homes, or try to make it illegal. I wouldn't hold protests, or be confrontational about it. But if someone asks my opinion, I'm going to be honest and say that yes, I do find it beyond disgusting. But if you are consenting adults, it's your business.


    Finding it beyond disgusting is your prerogative. Calling someone a freak to their face (or even behind their back) is what I have a problem with.

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #91 - April 14, 2012, 03:13 AM



    Oedipus complex, perhaps?
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #92 - April 14, 2012, 03:15 AM

    Finding it beyond disgusting is your prerogative. Calling someone a freak to their face (or even behind their back) is what I have a problem with.

    I'm not getting in their face about it, so you have no reason to be upset. I'm not being obnoxious.

    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #93 - April 14, 2012, 03:17 AM

    Good. I find it disgusting too, but I recognize that that's my own shortcoming.

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #94 - April 14, 2012, 03:22 AM

    Like I said, I wouldn't be obnoxious. But I wont hesitate to say it's disgusting either, if I'm asked my opinion.

    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #95 - April 14, 2012, 03:24 AM

    Is homosexual relationships disgusting too? If so, would you hesitate to say that too?
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #96 - April 14, 2012, 03:25 AM

    No.

    But I'm not in the mood to argue here. I just wanted to clarify what I meant to harakaat. Tongue

    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #97 - April 14, 2012, 03:27 AM

    I've so long ago made peace with the idea. that if I knew a sis and bro doing it, and there was no abuse grooming etc involved, I would probably say "well I wouldn't do it, but it's your life"

    Like i said, it's very rare for it to happen to siblings that grew up together unless some abuse or grooming has occurred, most of the time it is down to stranger's meeting and having that whole genetic mutual attraction thing.  I just have better things to care about than what they do together.  Better things to stand there and say "That's disgusting" about.

    The human is a bizarre creature to which many crazy things can happen.


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #98 - April 14, 2012, 03:29 AM

    vomit

    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #99 - April 14, 2012, 03:31 AM

    Thankfully someone being nauseated by my posts isn't enough to make me feel ashamed of my position.  Nor is stupid "where is james their spiritual leader" posts about to shame me either.


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #100 - April 14, 2012, 03:36 AM

    Thankfully someone being nauseated by my posts isn't enough to make me feel ashamed of my position.  Nor is stupid "where is james their spiritual leader" posts about to shame me either.




    Good for you!  Afro

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #101 - April 14, 2012, 03:46 AM

    Nor will sarcasm.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #102 - April 14, 2012, 03:49 AM

     Kiss

    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #103 - April 14, 2012, 03:50 AM

    Father daughter couples " How we first met" stories have to be surreal to listen to.

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #104 - April 14, 2012, 03:55 AM

    "My wife doesn't understand me." Grin

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #105 - April 14, 2012, 04:14 AM

    Nor will sarcasm.


    But that was sincerity.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #106 - April 14, 2012, 04:36 AM

    vomit


    We get it, Solara. If you don't like incest so much, stop coming to this thread. What happened to not being an in-your-face incestphobe?

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #107 - April 14, 2012, 04:42 AM

    Good. I find it disgusting too, but I recognize that that's my own shortcoming.


    You're a wise soul, harakaat.

    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #108 - April 14, 2012, 04:44 AM

    Haraakat the incest right activist Grin

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #109 - April 14, 2012, 04:53 AM

    We get it, Solara. If you don't like incest so much, stop coming to this thread. What happened to not being an in-your-face incestphobe?

    lol I was kidding bruv. Chillax. Tongue

    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #110 - April 14, 2012, 05:57 AM

    uhh, eww  Huh?

    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #111 - April 14, 2012, 12:06 PM

    I may be an "incestophobe", but I think it should at least be granted that I'm a liberal one. Grin

    I wouldn't go all Westboro Baptist Church on people, or picket their homes, or try to make it illegal. I wouldn't hold protests, or be confrontational about it. But if someone asks my opinion, I'm going to be honest and say that yes, I do find it beyond disgusting. But if you are consenting adults, it's your business.


    PRO-INCEST APOLOGIST!

    fuck you
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #112 - April 14, 2012, 01:09 PM

    I agree with you in general Harakaat but you really have to stop with the disabled argument, the difference is that disabled people will always pass on a risk to their disability (if their disability is heritable) while incestious couples only create a risk as a result of their choice of mate, so it's not nearly the same thing.

    The example can be easily fixed this way:

    If people should not be allowed to reproduce with siblings because of a high risk of disabilities that depends only on their choice of partners, then non-disabled people should not be allowed to reproduce with disabled people because of a high risk of disabilities that depends only on their choice of partners.

    Do not look directly at the operational end of the device.
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #113 - April 14, 2012, 10:03 PM

    I've so long ago made peace with the idea. that if I knew a sis and bro doing it, and there was no abuse grooming etc involved, I would probably say "well I wouldn't do it, but it's your life"

    Like i said, it's very rare for it to happen to siblings that grew up together unless some abuse or grooming has occurred, most of the time it is down to stranger's meeting and having that whole genetic mutual attraction thing.  I just have better things to care about than what they do together.  Better things to stand there and say "That's disgusting" about.

    The human is a bizarre creature to which many crazy things can happen.




    What if it was your kids that were doing it?

    Yes I went there.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #114 - April 14, 2012, 10:19 PM

    Father daughter couples " How we first met" stories have to be surreal to listen to.


    If the word afterbirth got mentioned I think I would turn green

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #115 - April 14, 2012, 10:25 PM

    The chances of that happening are slim to none, you understand that right?  that incest rarely occurs with children who were raised together because of the westermarck effect.  Usually cases of incest with siblings who grew up together, involve something traumatic, or some kind of grooming.

    ^^ this I would not be happy with at all since I already know they have the "eww" factor towards each other, meaning something would have had to seriously go wrong for this to change. 

    On the other hand if one of my kids grew up into a fucking adult, bumped into a sibling they had no idea about, and found themselves in that sort of situation, that is their business.


    Now, the last time someone asked me "what if it was your kids" it was over homosexuality, and I was cool with it, and I was told that I was such a bad mum due to this permissive nature, that my children would be better off with their muslim father..........this was said by Ali Sina.

    So I wait, for the next person to tell me that my permissive nature makes me a very very bad mum.

    For me the only thing is consent.  If there is consent it is none of my business, really it isn't. 

    I'm not banging my bro, but if you want to that's your perogative.

    I would be far more concerned if my kids were killers, rapists, and total assholes.

    I care more about those sort of things, than who they bang with consent. 

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #116 - April 14, 2012, 10:39 PM

    Quote
    Now, the last time someone asked me "what if it was your kids" it was over homosexuality, and I was cool with it, and I was told that I was such a bad mum due to this permissive nature, that my children would be better off with their muslim father..........this was said by Ali Sina.


    *shaking my head*

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #117 - April 15, 2012, 08:55 AM

    What if it was your kids that were doing it?

    Yes I went there.


    I wouldn't mind it if it was like what happened in the thread Berbs linked to. I'd find it weird and icky, but I wouldn't treat them any differently, and I'd accept their choice.

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #118 - April 15, 2012, 08:56 AM

    ^ As adults, of course.

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Anything goes between Consenting Adults?
     Reply #119 - April 15, 2012, 02:39 PM

    The chances of that happening are slim to none, you understand that right?  that incest rarely occurs with children who were raised together because of the westermarck effect.  Usually cases of incest with siblings who grew up together, involve something traumatic, or some kind of grooming.

    ^^ this I would not be happy with at all since I already know they have the "eww" factor towards each other, meaning something would have had to seriously go wrong for this to change.  


    On the other hand if one of my kids grew up into a fucking adult, bumped into a sibling they had no idea about, and found themselves in that sort of situation, that is their business.


    Now, the last time someone asked me "what if it was your kids" it was over homosexuality, and I was cool with it, and I was told that I was such a bad mum due to this permissive nature, that my children would be better off with their muslim father..........this was said by Ali Sina.

    So I wait, for the next person to tell me that my permissive nature makes me a very very bad mum.

    For me the only thing is consent.  If there is consent it is none of my business, really it isn't.  

    I'm not banging my bro, but if you want to that's your perogative.

    I would be far more concerned if my kids were killers, rapists, and total assholes.

    I care more about those sort of things, than who they bang with consent.  


    We're assuming that nothing goes wrong, but they still grow to become "overly affectionate". That was the situation in which I was interested in knowing your response as a parent. Obviously if there's sexual grooming or abuse then the whole situation takes on a different complexion.

    As far as the Westermarck effect is concerned, even a cursory reading of the wiki article shows that its really just a hypothetical psychological mechanism to explain how the incest taboo is reinforced, but it doesn't convincingly explain the cause of this taboo as there is not conclusive evidence in its favor. I mean all one has to do is look at the popularity of incest in hentai and other genres of pornography to see that there's no guarantee that feelings of sexual attraction towards siblings won't develop.

    Also, I assure you that I have no interest in besmirching your parenting capabilities. I was just trying to see how certain ideals of people manifest themselves in the highly pragmatic situations of personal child rearing. If others are looking for ammunition for personal assault, well just fuck them.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
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