Once who was the leader is now slave!

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Once who was the leader is now slave!
OP - March 17, 2012, 04:01 AM

Once Muslims lead the world. But now they are leading a life just like a slave. But why? What's the reason?
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Reply #1 - March 17, 2012, 04:13 AM

There are only 2 possibilities.

1-Either Allah exists and wants all this to be the way it is, with all the poverty, disease, greed, violence, hatred, wars, etc.

OR

2-Allah does not exist and things are the way they are due to a long, complex series of random but interconnected events throughout time in different parts of the world, and ultimately all praise and all blame belongs to humans.

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Reply #2 - March 17, 2012, 06:03 AM

OR

3-Muslims never led the world any more than the Greeks or Romans did.
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Reply #3 - March 17, 2012, 07:03 AM

David wins

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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Reply #4 - March 17, 2012, 07:16 AM

Quote from: David on March 17, 2012, 06:03 AM
OR

3-Muslims never led the world any more than the Greeks or Romans did.

ya don't say.

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Reply #5 - March 17, 2012, 09:09 AM

Quote from: David on March 17, 2012, 06:03 AM
OR

3-Muslims never led the world any more than the Greeks or Romans did.

*Ding ding ding*

Tell him what he's won Johnny!

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Reply #6 - March 17, 2012, 04:02 PM

Quote from: David on March 17, 2012, 06:03 AM
OR

3-Muslims never led the world any more than the Greeks or Romans did.

In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
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Reply #7 - March 17, 2012, 04:09 PM

Supremacist delusions - the reason for the mangled self esteem and belligerent, sullen sulking, and sense of entitlement epitomised by aymanbinmoshi and so recognisable elsewhere in the ummah.

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Reply #8 - March 17, 2012, 04:10 PM

Quote from: David on March 17, 2012, 06:03 AM
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3-Muslims never led the world any more than the Greeks or Romans did.

Or the Egyptians, Indians, or Chinese.

Only 'Islam' led the world.

All this whitewashing and hagiography is all about the wounded and silly sense of Islamic exceptionalism.

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Reply #9 - March 17, 2012, 04:11 PM

Quote from: billy on March 17, 2012, 04:09 PM
Supremacist delusions - the reason for the mangled self esteem and belligerent, sullen sulking, and sense of entitlement epitomised by aymanbinmoshi and so recognisable elsewhere in the ummah.

^ that... a million times!!

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Reply #10 - March 20, 2012, 12:52 PM

Quote from: David on March 17, 2012, 06:03 AM
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3-Muslims never led the world any more than the Greeks or Romans did.

Of course they led the world. Have you never heard the name of Khalid bin Walid or Omar or Osman or Ali. They ruled one- half part of the world.
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Reply #11 - March 20, 2012, 12:59 PM

Supremacist wet dreaming, wetting the bed thinking of 'Khalid bin Walid' - paralysed, delusional, the impotent supremacists.

Both pathetic, and farcical.

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Reply #12 - March 20, 2012, 01:24 PM

Quote from: aymanbinmoshi on March 20, 2012, 12:52 PM
Of course they led the world. Have you never heard the name of Khalid bin Walid or Omar or Osman or Ali. They ruled one- half part of the world.

No they didn't. The Islamic empire, at its peak, covered 8.73% of the land mass of the world. That's less than *deep breath*, the Second French Colonial Empire, the Yuan Dynasty, the Qing Dynasy, the Spanish Empire, the Russian Empire, the Mongol Empire and the British Empire.

Why are Muslim apologists so allergic to facts?

Khalid ibn al-Waleed (learn how to spell his name ffs) may have been a gifted military commander, but he's hardly unparalleled. Alexander the Great, Napoleon Bonaparte, Genghis Khan, to name a few, were all indisputably greater. And what about those other Rashidun? Omar was remarkable only in his barbarity (I still laugh at his catchphrase, "A'adhribu 3unuqah?!", "Shall I behead him, rasoolullah?!"), the rest were quite unremarkable.

قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
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Reply #13 - March 20, 2012, 01:32 PM

Quote from: aymanbinmoshi on March 20, 2012, 12:52 PM
Of course they led the world. Have you never heard the name of Khalid bin Walid or Omar or Osman or Ali. They ruled one- half part of the world.

actually, no. I have never heard of them. But also notice that everything great
in Islam is PAST TENSE. Nothing new and exciting. NEXT!

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Reply #14 - March 20, 2012, 04:36 PM

Quote from: aymanbinmoshi on March 17, 2012, 04:01 AM
Once Muslims lead the world. But now they are leading a life just like a slave. But why? What's the reason?

Islamic Golden Age ended right after they shun reason for revelation.

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Reply #15 - March 21, 2012, 06:46 AM

Quote from: harakaat on March 20, 2012, 01:24 PM
No they didn't. The Islamic empire, at its peak, covered 8.73% of the land mass of the world. That's less than *deep breath*, the Second French Colonial Empire, the Yuan Dynasty, the Qing Dynasy, the Spanish Empire, the Russian Empire, the Mongol Empire and the British Empire.

Why are Muslim apologists so allergic to facts?

Khalid ibn al-Waleed (learn how to spell his name ffs) may have been a gifted military commander, but he's hardly unparalleled. Alexander the Great, Napoleon Bonaparte, Genghis Khan, to name a few, were all indisputably greater. And what about those other Rashidun? Omar was remarkable only in his barbarity (I still laugh at his catchphrase, "A'adhribu 3unuqah?!", "Shall I behead him, rasoolullah?!"), the rest were quite unremarkable.

You are just saying as your gods: the Judea Christians. You have taught to hate Islam by your gods.
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Reply #16 - March 21, 2012, 09:09 AM

oh.. uh .. we also have another accomplished empire...

Galactic Empire
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Form of government :

Absolute monarchy de facto
Totalitarian Sith theocracy de facto
Constitutional monarchy de jure
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Reply #17 - March 21, 2012, 01:15 PM

Quote from: harakaat on March 20, 2012, 01:24 PM
No they didn't. The Islamic empire, at its peak, covered 8.73% of the land mass of the world. That's less than *deep breath*, the Second French Colonial Empire, the Yuan Dynasty, the Qing Dynasy, the Spanish Empire, the Russian Empire, the Mongol Empire and the British Empire.

Just the current size of Russia (almost 11.5% of all world land surface) is enough to beat that.

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Reply #18 - March 21, 2012, 01:22 PM

Quote from: aymanbinmoshi on March 21, 2012, 06:46 AM
You are just saying as your gods: the Judea Christians. You have taught to hate Islam by your gods.

First of all, why are you linking to the same article again? Second, dude, I was born to a Muslim family, I received an Islamic education, and to this day (TO THIS FUCKING DAY, much to my immense chagrin), I still take Islamic studies classes. No one "taught" me to hate Islam. I simply realize that it's a false religion, thanks to reading the Quran and the Sunnah in their original language.

قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
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Reply #19 - March 21, 2012, 01:32 PM

ayman, Can you go to your other thread and answer me?

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Reply #20 - March 21, 2012, 01:48 PM

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I know most of you were Muslim but not now.

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You are just saying as your gods: the Judea Christians. You have taught to hate Islam by your gods.
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Reply #21 - March 21, 2012, 04:18 PM

Quote from: aymanbinmoshi on March 21, 2012, 06:46 AM
You are just saying as your gods: the Judea Christians. You have taught to hate Islam by your gods.

really? the Torah and Bible were written many years before islam. HOW can it teach to
hate islam when islam didnt even EXIST when the torah and bible were written?

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Reply #22 - March 22, 2012, 10:56 AM

Not the whole world. Islam lead the half part of the world.
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Reply #23 - March 22, 2012, 10:57 AM

Southern Europe, North Africa, the near east and parts of central asia is barely 1/10th of the world. And this was at the high point.

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Reply #24 - March 22, 2012, 11:04 AM

Quote from: aymanbinmoshi on March 22, 2012, 10:56 AM
Not the whole world. Islam lead the half part of the world.

Are you completely ignoring my question in the other thread?

Let me post it here again.

How old was mohammad when he consummated his marriage with ayesha? And how old was ayesha?

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Reply #25 - March 22, 2012, 09:33 PM

Quote from: aymanbinmoshi on March 22, 2012, 10:56 AM
Not the whole world. Islam  lead the half part of the world.

your link says "...masters of the world"  why should ANY human be a master to any
other human?  Thats just sick.  And again I say, regardless if it was half or whole or
ten percent.  It IS PAST TENSE.  Muslims' arrogance and idiocy have kept
them in this mentality.   Thats why science, literature, the arts, and humanities
have left yall in the dust, cuz people are willing to let go of that shit and live normally.

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