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  • KONY 2012
     OP - March 07, 2012, 02:05 AM

    hi guys, just wanted to spread some awardness about Kony, the number one sought after war criminal in the world.

    "Since 1987, Joseph Kony has abducted more than 30,000 children in Central Africa and forced them to be child soldiers in his Lord’s Resistance Army. The KONY 2012 campaign employs film, social media, street art, and face-to-face interaction to make the case that the arrest of Joseph Kony this year is one thing we can all agree on."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #1 - March 07, 2012, 04:38 PM

    Bump, because it needs more eyes on it.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #2 - March 07, 2012, 05:47 PM

    That was truly heartbreaking, spread the word people!

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #3 - March 07, 2012, 06:03 PM

    Some interesting information:

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    We got trouble.

    For those asking what you can do to help, please link to visiblechildren.tumblr.com wherever you see KONY 2012 posts. And tweet a link to this page to famous people on Twitter who are talking about KONY 2012!

    I do not doubt for a second that those involved in KONY 2012 have great intentions, nor do I doubt for a second that Joseph Kony is a very evil man. But despite this, I’m strongly opposed to the KONY 2012 campaign.

    KONY 2012 is the product of a group called Invisible Children, a controversial activist group and not-for-profit. They’ve released 11 films, most with an accompanying bracelet colour (KONY 2012 is fittingly red), all of which focus on Joseph Kony. When we buy merch from them, when we link to their video, when we put up posters linking to their website, we support the organization. I don’t think that’s a good thing, and I’m not alone.

    Invisible Children has been condemned time and time again. As a registered not-for-profit, its finances are public. Last year, the organization spent $8,676,614. Only 32% went to direct services (page 6), with much of the rest going to staff salaries, travel and transport, and film production. This is far from ideal, and Charity Navigator rates their accountability 2/4 stars because they haven’t had their finances externally audited. But it goes way deeper than that.

    The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money supports the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces. Here’s a photo of the founders of Invisible Children posing with weapons and personnel of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army. Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting, but Invisible Children defends them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries”, although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission. These books each refer to the rape and sexual assault that are perennial issues with the UPDF, the military group Invisible Children is defending.


    Still, the bulk of Invisible Children’s spending isn’t on supporting African militias, but on awareness and filmmaking. Which can be great, except that Foreign Affairs has claimed that Invisible Children (among others) “manipulates facts for strategic purposes, exaggerating the scale of LRA abductions and murders and emphasizing the LRA’s use of innocent children as soldiers, and portraying Kony — a brutal man, to be sure — as uniquely awful, a Kurtz-like embodiment of evil.” He’s certainly evil, but exaggeration and manipulation to capture the public eye is unproductive, unprofessional and dishonest.

    As Chris Blattman, a political scientist at Yale, writes on the topic of IC’s programming, “There’s also something inherently misleading, naive, maybe even dangerous, about the idea of rescuing children or saving of Africa. […] It hints uncomfortably of the White Man’s Burden. Worse, sometimes it does more than hint. The savior attitude is pervasive in advocacy, and it inevitably shapes programming. Usually misconceived programming.”

    Still, Kony’s a bad guy, and he’s been around a while. Which is why the US has been involved in stopping him for years. U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) has sent multiple missions to capture or kill Kony over the years. And they’ve failed time and time again, each provoking a ferocious response and increased retaliative slaughter. The issue with taking out a man who uses a child army is that his bodyguards are children. Any effort to capture or kill him will almost certainly result in many children’s deaths, an impact that needs to be minimized as much as possible. Each attempt brings more retaliation. And yet Invisible Children supports military intervention. Kony has been involved in peace talks in the past, which have fallen through. But Invisible Children is now focusing on military intervention.

    Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re supporting the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away. If people know this and still support Invisible Children because they feel it’s the best solution based on their knowledge and research, I have no issue with that. But I don’t think most people are in that position, and that’s a problem.


    Is awareness good? Yes. But these problems are highly complex, not one-dimensional and, frankly, aren’t of the nature that can be solved by postering, film-making and changing your Facebook profile picture, as hard as that is to swallow. Giving your money and public support to Invisible Children so they can spend it on supporting ill-advised violent intervention and movie #12 isn’t helping. Do I have a better answer? No, I don’t, but that doesn’t mean that you should support KONY 2012 just because it’s something. Something isn’t always better than nothing. Sometimes it’s worse.

    If you want to write to your Member of Parliament or your Senator or the President or the Prime Minister, by all means, go ahead. If you want to post about Joseph Kony’s crimes on Facebook, go ahead. But let’s keep it about Joseph Kony, not KONY 2012.

    ~ Grant Oyston, visiblechildren@grantoyston.com

    Grant Oyston is a sociology and political science student at Acadia University in Nova Scotia, Canada. You can help spread the word about this by linking to his blog at visiblechildren.tumblr.com anywhere you see posts about KONY 2012.


    Source: http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/

    "Beauty is truth, truth beauty," - that is all
            Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

    - John Keats
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #4 - March 07, 2012, 06:15 PM

    The youtube video has about 500 comments being posted per minute, I've had it mentioned to me a million times at uni throughout yesterday and today and seen it shared by half my friend list on Facebook. Probably exceeding around 10 million views right now (youtube views go up in bunches).

    I'm not sure weather I'm excited about whether this attention really might help those suffering in Uganda, or that the collective community actually are capable of giving a crap about something other than x-factor.
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #5 - March 07, 2012, 06:18 PM

    True,
    Some interesting information:

    Source: http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/



     people should be cautionary in supporting direct military intervention when the military is corrupt. And we know from history that if they get too much power they could be more of a problem then Koney is now. But still, awareness helps us to push our governments to react.
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #6 - March 07, 2012, 06:24 PM

    Some interesting information:

    Source: http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/


    Interesting as an aside, but almost entirely irrelevant to the message of the video. It would be a shame to be sidetracked by it.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #7 - March 08, 2012, 06:31 AM



    The Problem With Invisible Children's "Kony 2012
    by Michael Deibert
    Posted: 03/ 7/2012 5:55 pm


    Recently, a new video produced by the American NGO Invisible Children focusing on Joseph Kony and the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) has been making the rounds. Having just returned from the Acholi region of Northern Uganda myself, where the LRA was born, I thought I might share some of my thoughts on the subject, for what it's worth.

    I think it is easy for Invisible Children and other self-aggrandizing foreigners to make the entire story of the last 30 years of Northern Uganda about Joseph Kony, but there is a history of the relationship between the Acholi people from whom the LRA emerged and the central government in Kampala that is a little more complicated than that.

    Kony is a grotesque war criminal, to be sure, but the Ugandan government currently in power also came to power through the use of kadogo (child soldiers) and fought alongside militias employing child soldiers in the Democratic Republic of Congo, something that Invisible Children seem wilfully ignorant of.

    The conflict in Acholi -- the ancestral homeland of the ethnic group who stretch across northern Uganda and southern Sudan -- has its roots in Uganda's history of dictatorship and political turmoil. A large number of soldiers serving in the government of dictator Milton Obote (who ruled Uganda from 1966 to 1971 and then again from 1980 to 1985) came from across northern Uganda, with the Acholis being particularly well represented, even though Obote himself hailed from the Lango ethnic group. When Obote was overthrown by his own military commanders, an ethnic Acholi, General Tito Okello, became president for six chaotic months until Yoweri Museveni's National Resistance Army took over. Museveni became president, and has since remained so, via elections -- some legitimate, some deeply flawed.

    Upon taking power, the Museveni government launched a brutal search and destroy mission against former government soldiers throughout the north, which swept up many ordinary Acholi in its wake. Some Acholi began mobilizing to defend themselves, first under the banner of the Uganda People's Democratic Army (largely made up of former soldiers) and then the Holy Spirit Movement.

    This movement, directed by Alice Auma, an Acholi who claimed to be acting on guidance from the spirit Lakwena, brought a mystical belief in their own invincibility that the soldiers of the Kampala-based government at first found terrifying: Holy Spirit Movement devotees walked headlong into blazing gunfire singing songs and holding stones they believed would turn into grenades. The movement succeeded in reaching Jinja, just 80 km from the capital Kampala, before being decimated by Museveni's forces.

    Out of this slaughter was born the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), led by Joseph Kony, a distant relative of Alice Auma. Kony added an additional element of targeting civilian Acholi to his schismatic blend of Christianity, frequently kidnapping children and adolescents to serve in his rebel movement. The Museveni government responded by viewing all Acholi as potential collaborators, rounding them up into camps euphemistically called "protected villages", where they were vulnerable to disease and social ills, and had few ways to carry on their traditional farming.

    The LRA's policy of targeting civilians (though not the Museveni government's draconian measures) eventually drew international condemnation and in 2005 the International Criminal Court issued arrest warrants against Joseph Kony and several other seniors LRA commanders for crimes against humanity and war crimes. Ironically, one of those commanders, Dominic Ongwen, was himself kidnapped by the LRA while still a small boy.

    After peace talks between the LRA and the Ugandan government collapsed in 2007, the group decamped from its bases in southern Sudan to the Democratic Republic of Congo and the Central African Republic.

    Following the end of negotiations, the Museveni government launched its Peace Recovery and Development Plan (PRDP), an effort to stabilize northern Uganda after years of war. Since then, according to the United Nations, 98 percent of internally displaced persons have moved on from the camps that once sheltered hundreds of thousands of frightened people.

    Despite criticisms from the Acholi that the government's program has been insufficient, local initiatives and the work of some foreign organizations have helped restore a sense of normality and gradual progress to the region, with people returned to their homes and travel between once off-limits parts of the region now facilitated with relative ease.

    Now a thousand miles from the cradle of their insurgency, the LRA would appear to have little hope of returning to Uganda, though their potential to wreak havoc on civilians remains little diminished. In Congo's Haut-Uele province, between December 2009 and January 2010, the LRA massacred 620 civilians and abducted more than 120 children.

    In October 2011, U.S. President Barack Obama announced that he was sending 100 Special Forces soldiers to help the Ugandans hunt down Kony. By the end of the year, the Ugandan army confirmed that the troops had moved along with the Ugandan army to Obo in the Central African Republic and Nzara in South Sudan.

    The problem with Invisible Children's whitewashing of the role of the government of Uganda's president Yoweri Museveni in the violence of Central Africa is that it gives Museveni and company a free pass, and added ammunition with which to bludgeon virtually any domestic opposition, such as Kizza Besigye and the Forum for Democratic Change.

    By blindly supporting Uganda's current government and its military adventures beyond its borders, as Invisible Children suggests that people do, Invisible Children is in fact guaranteeing that there will be more violence, not less, in Central Africa.

    I have seen the well-meaning foreigners do plenty of damage before, so that is why people understanding the context and the history of the region is important before they blunder blindly forward to "help" a people they don't understand.

    U.S. President Bill Clinton professed that he was "helping" in the Democratic Republic of Congo in the 1990s and his help ended up with over 6 million people losing their lives.

    The same mistake should not be repeated today.


    Source



    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #8 - March 08, 2012, 06:41 AM

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    Stop Kony, yes. But don’t stop asking questions
    By Musa Okwonga
    Wednesday, 7 March 2012 at 1:05 pm

    Invisible Children has had some success already: late last year, President Barack Obama committed 100 US troops to provide “advice and assistance” to the Ugandan army in removing Joseph Kony from the battlefield.  The President’s move came in part due to the NGO’s tremendous advocacy efforts.  Everyone agrees that this a hugely important issue, but Invisible Children’s methods have come in for searing criticism; most scathingly, they have been attacked as “neo-liberal, do-good Whiteness”.  Elsewhere, Foreign Affairs has provided some important context on this matter, in relation to Uganda’s strategic importance to the USA.  I would also recommend the  Twitter feed of Laura Seay, who was moved to comment this morning that “[Solomme Lemma] is tweeting links to great community-based organizations working in Northern Uganda.  Give there if you really want to help.

    I understand the anger and resentment at Invisible Children’s approach, which with its paternalism has unpleasant echoes of colonialism.  I will admit to being perturbed by its apparent top-down prescriptiveness, when so much diligent work is already being done at Northern Uganda’s grassroots.  On the other hand, I am very happy – relieved, more than anything – that Invisible Children have raised worldwide awareness of this issue.  Murderers and torturers tend to prefer anonymity, and if not that then respectability: that way, they can go about their work largely unhindered.  For too many years, the subject of this trending topic on Twitter was only something that I heard about in my grandparents’ living room, as relatives and family friends gathered for fruitless and frustrated hours of discussion. Watching the video, though, I was concerned at the simplicity of the approach that Invisible Children seemed to have taken.

    The thing is that Joseph Kony has been doing this for a very, very, very long time.  He emerged about a quarter of a century, which is about the same time that Uganda’s President Yoweri Museveni came to power.  As a result the fates of these two leaders must, I think, be viewed together.  Yet, though President Museveni must be integral to any solution to this problem, I didn’t hear him mentioned once in the 30-minute video.  I thought that this was a crucial omission. Invisible Children asked viewers to seek the engagement of American policymakers and celebrities, but – and this is a major red flag – it didn’t introduce them to the many Northern Ugandans already doing fantastic work both in their local communities and in the diaspora.  It didn’t ask its viewers to seek diplomatic pressure on President Museveni’s administration.

    About ten minutes into the video, the narrator asks his young son who “the bad guy” in Uganda is; when his young son hesitates, he informs him that Joseph Kony is the bad guy.  In a sense, he let Kony off lightly: he is a monster.  But what the narrator also failed to do was mention to his son that when a bad guy like Kony is running riot for years on end, raping and slashing and seizing and shooting, then there is most likely another host of bad guys out there letting him get on with it.  He probably should have told him that, too.

    I don’t think that Invisible Children are naïve.  I don’t think that President Obama was ever blind to this matter either: his own father, a Kenyan, hails from the Luo, the same tribal group that has suffered so much at the hands of Kony.  My hunch – and hope – is that they see this campaign as a way to encourage wider and deeper questions about wholly  inadequate governance in this area of Africa.

    And as far as President Museveni is concerned, my thoughts are these: if thousands of British children were being kidnapped from their towns each year and recruited into an army, you can bet that David Cameron would be facing some very, very serious questions in the Commons.  You can bet that he would be grilled on why, years after the conflict began, there were still about a million of his citizens slowly dying in squalor in ill-equipped refugee camps.  You can also bet that, after twenty-odd years of this happening on his watch, he wouldn’t still be running the country.

    Source


    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #9 - March 08, 2012, 06:48 AM

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    (blog post) Unmuted | You Don't Have My Vote

    Invisible to whom: these children have been very visible to their communities for years. After all, they’re somebody’s child, brother, sister, friend, niece, nephew, or neighbor. They’ve been visible to the shopkeepers and vendors in town who protected them. They’ve been visible to the family members who lost them and the community that cared for them. It’s because they’re so visible that Concerned Parents Association opened its doors in the 1990’s, after LRA abducted about 200 girls from a secondary school dormitory, to advocate for and bring to international light their plight. It’s because they’re visible that young people, including returnees from abductions, started Concerned Children and Youth Association. They’re visible to the people that matter, but apparently not to IC.  The language we use in social change often denotes the approach we take, even if subconsciously. Since the children appear to be invisible to IC, then perhaps it’s clear why they’re represented as voiceless, dependent, and dis-empowered. 

    The dis-empowering and reductive narrative: the Invisible Children narrative on Uganda is one that paints the people as victims, lacking agency, voice, will, or power. It calls upon an external cadre of American students to liberate them by removing the bad guy who is causing their suffering. Well, this is a misrepresentation of the reality on the ground. Fortunately, there are plenty of examples of child and youth advocates who have been fighting to address the very issues at the heart of IC’s work. Want evidence? In addition to the organizations I list above, also look at Art for Children, Friends of Orphans, and Children Chance International. It doesn’t quiet match the victim narrative, does it? I understand that IC is a US-based organization working to change US policy. But, it doesn’t absolve it from the responsibility of telling a more complete story, one that shows the challenges and trials along side the strength, resilience, and transformational work of affected communities.

    Revival of the White savior: if you have watched the Invisible Children video and followed the organization’s work in the past, you will note a certain messianic/savior undertone to it all. “I will do anything I can to stop him,” declares the founder in the video. It’s quite individualistic and reeks of the dated colonial views of Africa and Africans as helpless beings who need to be saved and civilized. Where in that video do you see the agency of Ugandans? Where in that Video do you see Jacob open his eyes wide at the mere possibility of his own strength, as Jennifer Lentfer of How Matters describes here? Can we point out the problem with having one child speak on the desires, dreams, and hopes of a whole nation? I don’t even want to mention the paternalistic tone with which Jacob and Uganda (when did it become part of central Africa by the way?) are described, not excluding the condescending use of subtitles for someone who is clearly speaking English.

    How many times in history do we have to see this model to know that it doesn’t work? Even if IC succeeds in bringing about short-term change (i.e. increased awareness or even the killing of Kony) it won’t eliminate Northern Uganda’s problems overnight. It won’t heal and sustain communities. In this era of protest and the protester, we have seen that change is best achieved when it comes from within. Let Ugandans champion their own, IC!

    Privilege of giving: that was quite a 30-minute production? Where did they get the resources? How do they have that reach? Well, in the nonprofit world, the one thing that we have to learn, especially as Africans, is that privilege begets privilege. The IC video is another reminder of the ways in which privilege infiltrates the social justice world and determines the voices and organizations that are heard; simply those that can afford to be heard. There are several local organizations that could offer a nuanced and contextualized perspective on and solutions to the Northern Uganda conflict. They don’t have IC’s reach. They simple weren’t born into the world of financial, racial, social, and geopolitical privilege IC members are. 

    Lack of Africans in leadership: Invisible Children’s US staff is comprised exclusively of Americans, as is the entire Board. How do you represent Uganda and not have Ugandans in leadership? Couldn’t the organization find a single Ugandan? An African? Did it even think about that? Does that matter to current staff and board members? I understand that IC’s main audience is American and its focus is on American action. However, when your work and consequence affect a different group of people than your target audience, you must make it a priority to engage the voices of the affected population in a real and meaningful way, in places and spaces where programs are designed, strategies dissected, and decisions made.

    Clearly, I think people should work across borders to address global issues. Obviously, there is a role for Americans in this issue. The problem here is the lack of balance on who speaks for Uganda (and Africa) and how. We need approaches that are strategic and respectful of the local reality, build on the action and desires of local activists and organizers, and act as partners and allies, not owners and drivers. When it comes to Africa, we have seen the IC approach play out time and time again, whether it was Ethiopia in the 1980s, Somalia in the early 2000s to date, Darfur in 2004, or now. History is on our side and it shows that these types of approaches often fail. At some point, we have to say enough is enough.

    Source.


    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #10 - March 08, 2012, 06:53 AM

    Quote
    Oil Reserves in Uganda, US Sends 'Humanitarian Intervention'
    By Kevin Pinner
    20 October 11

    Since at least 1997 the abhorrent Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) has murdered at least 2,400, kidnapped at least 3,400, and displaced at least 300,000. LRA is an ideological group, led by batshit crazy polygamist preacher and self-proclaimed "Spokesman of God" Joseph Kony, which seeks a theocratic state in Uganda based on the Ten Commandments and local traditions.

    Reports indicate that Kony and his dispicable cronies have been hiding for years. However, last week President Obama announced that, without consulting congress, he has authorized the deployment of some 100 "combat-equipped US forces" to the country in order to fight and hopefully kill or capture the vicious militant who has an international warrant for crimes against humanity.

    With regards to the nearly two decades of atrocity, Obama pointed it out. "These forces will act as advisers to partner forces that have the goal of removing from the battlefield Joseph Kony and other senior leadership of the LRA," Obama said. "They will only be providing information, advice and assistance to partner nation forces, and they will not themselves engage LRA forces unless necessary for self-defense."

    No doubt Uganda needs help; they are one of the world's poorest nations (17th) and have failed thus far to combat the LRA effectively enough to stop them. It's a good thing that we're fighting this monster, but for a humanitarian crisis that has been ongoing for almost two decades, that has been the scourge of a nation and a domestic terror threat rivaling the worst guerillas in Africa, it took us this long?

    Earlier this year, at least 2.5 billion barrels of crude oil were discovered along Uganda's border. The Economist reports that the country expects to earn $2 billion a year beginning in 2015.


    Source


    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #11 - March 08, 2012, 06:58 AM

    Joseph Kony is not in Uganda (and other complicated things).


    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #12 - March 08, 2012, 07:34 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odnBGH6Bh88&hd=1

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #13 - March 08, 2012, 08:05 AM

    I don't buy into the white mans burden thing. It just so happens that the people that could do something are generally white so therefore a higher percentage of activists are white, it does not mean that it is colonial or anything like that. That to me smacks of racism and also is divisive. It is divisive as it screams out people of different skin colours cannot help each other, and also should not, also akin to 'we can't tell people how to act in other countries' (I am no moral relativist). I'm not saying I support this group whole heartedly but I don't view them as bad as a whole.
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #14 - March 08, 2012, 08:07 AM

    Nobody is saying white activists should not be involved. But there's a difference between activism that acknowledges privilege and seeks to empower others, and paternalistically claiming to speak *for* other people. I think there is more than enough material here and in so many other places (lots of the critique of this "charity" is BY white people too, BTW), to show that this "Invisible Children" org is problematic at best and the timing of this campaign is reminiscent of Iraq in 2003.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #15 - March 08, 2012, 08:10 AM

    Are you saying that I shouldn't speak for Pakistanis because I am not Pakistani myself? This given the fact that I (like the IC founder) have close ties with that country, he his friend/s me my boyfriend.
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #16 - March 08, 2012, 08:12 AM

    I'm not saying I don't agree on the methodology used by the guy and IC btw, I no longer think it is a well rounded approach to the issue but yup.
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #17 - March 08, 2012, 08:13 AM

    Are you saying that I shouldn't speak for Pakistanis because I am not Pakistani myself? This given the fact that I (like the IC founder) have close ties with that country, he his friend/s me my boyfriend.


    Absolutely you should not speak FOR Pakistanis if that means you claim to know better than them their own lives and experiences. Although you can claim an affinity to Pakistanis, and speak from a kind of solidarity, and you do not have to be friends with a Pakistani to do that if you are aware of the nuances of whatever it is you are speaking about.

    Just like would you want anyone to speak for you? To ignore the nuances in your life and the identity groups you feel you belong to (women, etc.) and to claim to speak for you, instead of actually listening to you?

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #18 - March 08, 2012, 08:18 AM

    That's a difficult one for me to answer, my heart is pulled both ways. I think its the dichotomy bw 'knowing' I am right yet still wanting to listen to other peoples views at the same time. Much as I get advice from my mother but I rarely take it fully and usually plod on roughly the same direction I was going in.
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #19 - March 08, 2012, 08:20 AM

    However I tend to take advice from academics at uni.
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #20 - March 08, 2012, 01:22 PM

    The almost phobic reaction to this video on blogs is literally mindboggling. I can't figure out if it's just 'cool' to trash the video, or if people are just projecting their sense of guilt and failure for doing fuck all for so long.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #21 - March 08, 2012, 01:56 PM

    Quote
    Since at least 1997 the abhorrent Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) has murdered at least 2,400, kidnapped at least 3,400, and displaced at least 300,000. LRA is an ideological group, led by batshit crazy polygamist preacher and self-proclaimed "Spokesman of God" Joseph Kony, which seeks a theocratic state in Uganda based on the Ten Commandments and local traditions.


    http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/424-national-security/7996-oil-reserves-in-uganda-us-sends-humanitarian-intervention


    The documentary fails to mention all that ^ and simply says he's fighting to remain in power  Roll Eyes Not even once is Christianity or the Bible mentioned, if it was and he was called say a "Christian terrorist" there's no way the US congress would back this. 
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #22 - March 08, 2012, 01:58 PM

    Can you blame campaigners for being pragmatic rather than overly-'principled' when they are trying to get a cause recognised?

    Sometimes you have to face reality and compromise.

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #23 - March 08, 2012, 04:43 PM

    The response to the criticism from InvisibleChildren.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #24 - March 08, 2012, 09:18 PM

    ^ ^ That is pretty convincing.

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  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #25 - March 08, 2012, 09:37 PM

    The almost phobic reaction to this video on blogs is literally mindboggling. I can't figure out if it's just 'cool' to trash the video, or if people are just projecting their sense of guilt and failure for doing fuck all for so long.


    Phobic? Grin Way to go completely ignoring all the rational, historically informed, critical and nuanced points in the 4 or 5 articles I posted above.

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  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #26 - March 08, 2012, 09:41 PM






    A new requirement before sharing the Kony video.

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  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #27 - March 08, 2012, 09:43 PM

    Phobic? Grin Way to go completely ignoring all the rational, historically informed, critical and nuanced points in the 4 or 5 articles I posted above.

    The organisation's response to the criticism does make them seem fairly balanced and well informed.

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  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #28 - March 08, 2012, 09:48 PM

    Not really. My arguments and the arguments I posted above have less to do with the financial issues the Invisible Children are accused of, and more about the deeper issues of ignoring the role of the Ugandan govt and the timing of this campaign and how it coincides with OIL being discovered in Uganda recently.

    Decades long massacres in Uganda and all of a sudden, such a massive, glossy and well-funded campaign to bring attention to this issue? All while ignoring the area's history or political nuances, and the fact that Kony's rival the Ugandan govt itself uses child soldiers etc.? Yeah, okay, sure.

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  • Re: KONY 2012
     Reply #29 - March 08, 2012, 09:53 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLVY5jBnD-E


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