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  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #30 - March 07, 2012, 09:55 PM

    W00t!! Shocked ZOMG it's Criss!!  Kiss <3

    I look forward to watching your video when it comes out.  I support you all the way. Afro

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #31 - March 16, 2012, 10:03 PM

    You can use my display pic and my name is Omar Quraishi I live in Canada and I love your videos Smiley if you need any more info just MSG me.
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #32 - March 16, 2012, 11:26 PM

    Hey Criss,
    I won't give you my name and photo here and I won't pay $200 to be around a bunch of people even if they're atheists. My ex-wife's an atheist, does it mean I wanna hang out with her? - No.
    Hey, but I would love to buy you a coffee before or after your speech there. We have a lot of Lebanese restaurants that make nice Turkish Arabic coffee in DC metro area Wink

    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #33 - March 17, 2012, 11:04 AM

    Quote
    It is that English?


    Yup, proper KJV!  Wot God speaks mkay?

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #34 - March 21, 2012, 01:05 AM

    Sure, ideas are welcomed too. If you would like me to address something in particular, don't hesitate to share some thoughts Smiley


     really ... !!! That is sweet  Afro

    Speaking of suggestions, a good idea would be to mention Professor Gouguenheim.
    Who?
    Sylvain Gouguenheim, Professor from the École Normale Supérieure of Lyon, who wrote a book called "Aristote au Mont Saint-Michel. Les racines grecques de l’Europe chrétienne" book published in Romanian at the Nemira publishing house see my book review
    http://nemirabooks.ro/aristotel-la-muntele-saint-michel-2

    There is nothing special about this book, in reality is based on an old argument, ie the Byzantine thesis ( on, transmission of Greek philosophy via Byzantine empire, starting with  James of Venice (12th century) and ap to the Fourth Crusade (1202–1204), when some barbarians from the West who called themselves "Christians" sacked the "queen city", and ending with the fall of Constantinople, and the massive migration of Byzantine scholars to Italy particularly Florence, that spark the Renaissance).
    However gradually, in the last 20 years a new  thesis appeared  a Islamic thesis, trying to convince that Europe spent 1000 years  in the dark ( No Byzantium, no monasteries whit scribes, no universities, no nothing but darkness and barbarism) until "knowledge were brought back from Islam". ( through Cordoba or Cairo )
    This thesis is strongly supported and promoted by Atheists and Socialist, often with the following idea attached " if we should thank someone,then we should thank Islam ,,, but ... if we should think better, Islam itself has fallen into barbarism ...so we should thank nobody. Religion has brought only wars, end of discussion.

    In the current context, of the migration of Muslims in to Europe and U.S.,the idea of the huge debt which Europe has to "Islam" seems to be the solution to all conflicts.
    According to this thesis, of "political correctness", the History should be written so as to do not contradict, theses that put Islam in a positive light.

    In this regard a recommendation of the "parliamentary assembly of the council of Europe from 8 novembre 2002 / Doc. 9626, proposed a revision of history textbooks, so that the contribution of other cultures as Islam to European civilization also be mentioned.
    This document speaks, of a a previous report of the parliamentary assembly of the council of Europe from 13 September 1991  namely the Doc. 649, "on the contribution of the Islamic civilisationto European culture"

    "therefore it is suggested for example:
    ii. There should be wider provision for the
    teaching of Arabic as a modern language in European schools.
    iii. Scientific research on Islamic matters
    should be encouraged, inter alia, by increasing the
    number of Arabic and Islamic professorial posts in
    universities. Islam should also be included in
    mainstream studies, for example Islamic history
    should be taught in history departments, Islamic
    philosophy in philosophy departments and Islamic
    law in law departments, and should not be relegated, as is often the case, to oriental language
    departments.
    "


    Basically while the secularists lead a fight for, years now, to remove all Christian symbols from schools and universities, some of these secularists, also start a fight to  push the study of Islam and of the "Islamic history, Islamic philosophy and  Islamic law", in the same schools from which the Christian symbols were freshly removed.
    And atheists were the first who started to scream, "we do not, oouu we do not owe Christianity nothing"

    Sylvain Gouguenheim, motivated, as the main reason for which he has decided to publish this book is  precisely the EU recommendations, that first of all suggested discussion about Islam.

    So far nothing new, just ... another historian, presenting, in France a classic thesis, namely of the transmission of Greek culture via the Byzantine Empire
    What followed is truly amazing:
    The author is accused,  firstly that he did not bring anything new with his book. After that is violently criticized by socialist circles, declared racist, xenophobic, Islamophobes. even called a liar
    Against him petitions were gathered,  and two conferences were held, in order to publicly ostracize him, and after protests, he end up being excluded from the function which he occupies in a commission, function that gave him the right to coordinate doctoral theses.
    According to an interview given by the author to a newspaper in Romania he even received personal threats.

    He even came to be called Nazi, fascist, or a right-wing political agitator. In various articles, in which he was attacked, he was accused primarily that he wants to deny any influence of Islam on Europe, when the author says, very clear in his book,  he does not want to do that. Or that he did not presented thoroughly the influence of Islam on the mathematical sciences, even if his book is about Greek philosophy.

     So ... In a presentation about Islam I think that the new-atheists should be severely criticized  because they  had systematically, promoted the idea of the huge debts that Europe has before Islam, denied or concealed the entire history of Eastern Christianity (which do not enroll in their  Inquisition patterns ) which was the source of Greek culture for Islam and Catholicism simultaneously
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIszhU_em1E


    Ps. The above, is inspired by a small portion of the article that I mentioned, when I joined this forum.
    After  I will have enough time to fully check it again, for any mistakes ( I will post a link) so we may discusses this here.

    I want to live for immortality, and I will accept no compromise. from F.Dostoyevsky
    Le XXI?me si?cle sera spirituel ou ne sera pas - Andr? Malraux
    Eu cand discut cu un ateu e ca si cum as discuta cu usa - Petre Tutea
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #35 - March 21, 2012, 05:05 AM

    Hey Criss,
    I won't give you my name and photo here and I won't pay $200 to be around a bunch of people even if they're atheists. My ex-wife's an atheist, does it mean I wanna hang out with her? - No.
    Hey, but I would love to buy you a coffee before or after your speech there. We have a lot of Lebanese restaurants that make nice Turkish Arabic coffee in DC metro area Wink


    Cheesy

    Anyway, sorry Cristina I cannot contribute to this at this time in my life. Good luck with your project and speech although I'm sure you won't need it.

    Rather be forgotten than remembered for giving in.
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #36 - March 21, 2012, 09:23 AM

    good luck christina, may the force be with yeeww..
     
    I loved to contribute too, but I can't ....... Cry
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #37 - March 22, 2012, 06:06 AM

    I found (and joined) this site through one of your vids. That should be good enough for a pic and my name, I know - but I have this crippling desire not to have every single person in my life angry at me. 
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #38 - March 24, 2012, 01:51 PM

    VyckRo, hi! grin12

    I'm a little late here, but don't worry, no matter where you post on the Internet I'll be there to debunk your lies, since you're doing the exact same thing to ZOMGitsCriss (or trying to at least), I don't think you'll have any moral objection with me doing the same with you.

    Now:

    ZOMGitsCriss channel promotes censorship - This is a lie. Only a handful of people got blocked, and the reason you got blocked, and this still available for everyone to see in one of her comment sections, is because you spread a bunch of lies about her and you continued to spread those lies. Free speech or not, everything has a limit, for example you claimed she "left college to make money on YouTube" even though this happened 5-6 years before her YouTube channel was ever made and because she couldn't afford the costs anymore of staying in college. And you're one insensitive twat to take advantage of the situation and add insult to injury, shame on you.


    But let's do not forget how all the atheist experiments failed, starting whit the French Revolution, Paris Commune, the Mexico atheist regime post 1917 constitution ap to the Cristero War, the Cultural Revolution in China, the League of militant atheist from U.R.S.S., the atheist regime in Albania.


    This is such an epic fail, the French revolution happened because the people were not happy with their rulers and this was a crucial step towards a democracy. If the people are unhappy, they revolt, you're deluded if you think a handful of atheists can start a revolution.

    Also the "atheist experiment" hasn't failed, the communist experiment has failed, the "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" has failed, centralized one-party state has failed, but atheism??? No, it hasn't failed, it's perfectly compatible with democracy and free markets and secular societies are far better off than any Christian or Muslim country where these religions play a significant role. Sweden is 80% atheist/agnostic, you know who is causing the most problems there? It's the Muslim immigrants.


    Quote
    totalitarian regimes of the last century started whit some funny caricatures that presented "obsessively", Jews in Germany, and landowners and priests in Russia, in a certain way.


    VyckRo, seriously, go submit your CV to Fox News, I'm sure you could make a career out of it.


    Quote
    It's the same obsession, to attack an entire group, for what, some have made.
    The "rational" thing to do, would be to try to explain and to gain allies from various religious denominations, and
    together to find answers, against fanaticism. But what atheists trying to is to create a gap, with them on one side as "rationalists" and everyone else on the  other side as "retarded".


    Religion itself is a problem as well, even in moderate form.

    Fanaticism will always exist as long as scripture (Bible and Qur'an in particular) contains violence (as mandated by God) and hypocritical moral teachings that desensitize the reader from actions that would otherwise be considered atrocities. For example the Bible may not tolerate killing people, but it also says "do not be yoked with unbelievers" and describes a fate worse than death for them. So it's no wonder a lot of young secular people are in a sort of "closet" of atheism or agnosticism.

    The Bible preaches to "love thy neighbour" but this simply has no credibility whatsoever, given the bloody history and barbarism in the Old Testament, as required by God. And people like you excuse this with "oh we don't follow those laws anymore", as if you can just wash away with a sponge all the immoral actions committed. Yeah, absolute morality my ass.


    IF the Bible/Qur'an really were good moral books, flawless in teachings, unambiguous and people still turned to fanaticism, then I could agree with you. But the truth is the way these books are written have their part to play in forming a fanatical and dangerous believer.



    Now you did make some point about Islam - I agree, atheists should criticize Islam more than Christianity and not worry about any "racist" accusations because that's simply bogus, Islam isn't a race.

    But don't generalize - Pat Condell for example has more videos on Islam.
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #39 - March 28, 2012, 04:14 AM

    really ... !!! That is sweet  Afro

    Speaking of suggestions, a good idea would be to mention Professor Gouguenheim.
    Who?
    Sylvain Gouguenheim, Professor from the École Normale Supérieure of Lyon, who wrote a book called "Aristote au Mont Saint-Michel. Les racines grecques de l’Europe chrétienne" book published in Romanian at the Nemira publishing house see my book review
    http://nemirabooks.ro/aristotel-la-muntele-saint-michel-2


    My article is ready, and finally available in this forum.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=20213.msg576567#msg576567
    Waiting for your opinions...

    I want to live for immortality, and I will accept no compromise. from F.Dostoyevsky
    Le XXI?me si?cle sera spirituel ou ne sera pas - Andr? Malraux
    Eu cand discut cu un ateu e ca si cum as discuta cu usa - Petre Tutea
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #40 - March 28, 2012, 04:30 AM

    dear troll ... She lied to you.

    VyckRo, hi! grin12

    I'm a little late here, but don't worry, no matter where you post on the Internet I'll be there to debunk your lies, since you're doing the exact same thing to ZOMGitsCriss (or trying to at least), I don't think you'll have any moral objection with me doing the same with you.


    Tu quoque Argument!

    Quote
    ZOMGitsCriss channel promotes censorship - This is a lie. Only a handful of people got blocked, and the reason you got blocked, and this still available for everyone to see in one of her comment sections, is because you spread a bunch of lies about her and you continued to spread those lies. Free speech or not, everything has a limit, for example you claimed she "left college to make money on YouTube" even though this happened 5-6 years before her YouTube channel was ever made and because she couldn't afford the costs anymore of staying in college. And you're one insensitive twat to take advantage of the situation and add insult to injury, shame on you.


    No, My accusation about money is fairly recent!
    I accused her of lying. She made ​​a video where she tried to advocate something about atheism and Romania.
    I exposed her arguments, I made a video that I sent to her friends. She got very scared and Blok-me.
    I responded to her very moderate, considering that she has permanently suspended my history channel, to which I work for three years.

    for the rest I will not feed the troll.

    I want to live for immortality, and I will accept no compromise. from F.Dostoyevsky
    Le XXI?me si?cle sera spirituel ou ne sera pas - Andr? Malraux
    Eu cand discut cu un ateu e ca si cum as discuta cu usa - Petre Tutea
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #41 - March 28, 2012, 02:15 PM

    Damn.. that was terrible mistake.,    we should have the asked   her

    Go Criss!

    to speak few words  on  Hamza Kashgari  in that freedom Rally

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #42 - March 28, 2012, 02:54 PM


     I will be addressing both the religious bigotry and racism that Muslims face as a minority in the West
    P.S. : I cannot post links but you can easily find the details about the Reason Rally and American Atheist Convention online Smiley


    sorry when did islam become a skin pigment?  i know english isn't your first language but do you understand the etymology of the term 'racism' ?
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #43 - March 28, 2012, 03:02 PM

    Meaning using criticism of Islam as an excuse to lash out and hate on visible minorities (simply for being minorities) who come from Muslim countries, the BNP, EDL, Wilders, European far right and many others do it all the time.

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #44 - March 28, 2012, 04:22 PM

    you did brilliantly Criss .. and thank you for your kind words..001_wub... i didn't recognize many but..  19:30  me and Hassan..  Afro

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh5fHLrmiW0
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #45 - March 28, 2012, 05:20 PM

    19:30  me and Hassan.. 

    Skips straight to 19.30.

    Wow. Classy, elegant and beautiful. No surprise there.



    I mean Hassan of course.
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #46 - March 28, 2012, 05:25 PM


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh5fHLrmiW0

    Skips straight to 19.30.

    Wow. Classy, elegant and beautiful. No surprise there.



    I mean Hassan of course.

     david.........

    Damn there are so many angry people in that tube

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #47 - March 28, 2012, 05:56 PM


    I mean Hassan of course.


    i wouldn't have thought any different ..   Smiley
    i'm sure he'd thank you..
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #48 - March 28, 2012, 08:51 PM

    VERY proud of nesrin, hassan and all the ex-muslims who sent it in their info to be part of this. BIG Hugs for all you brave and inspiring people Big hug

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #49 - March 28, 2012, 09:25 PM

     Big hug 10-2
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #50 - March 28, 2012, 10:18 PM

    I second that. I realized watching that just how much it helped me to know about ex-muslims who would openly talk about their apostasy. It gave me the courage to continue questioning my religion - I had gotten it into my head that people who leave Islam are lost and broken individuals.

    It was nice to see people who had walked the path of apostasy and didn't look like dark Djinn clouds were hanging over there heads ok.

    So thanks to all you guys who aren't afraid to stand up and be counted far away hug

    ... maybe I'll start showing my face in my vids.

    P.S. You're beautiful Ness - inside and out.
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #51 - March 28, 2012, 10:21 PM

    It was nice to see people who had walked the path of apostasy and didn't look like dark Djinn clouds were hanging over there heads

    Best definition ever of the hijab.
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #52 - April 25, 2012, 12:39 AM

    No, My accusation about money is fairly recent!


    This makes absolutely no sense. She's ~30. So she started her channel at ~27. The story about dropping out of college was much earlier. But yeah, she quit college before YouTube existed to make videos on YouTube several years later. Makes perfect sense. Seriously you need to send your CV to Fox News, they could use someone like you.

    As for the money she makes - you don't know how much it is and it's none of your business. If I had a channel as big as hers and was regularly doing videos I would put up a donation link as well, I would want to be compensated somehow for my time and effort and the risk associated with criticizing religion (especially Islam). Nobody's forcing anyone to donate.

    I accused her of lying. She made ​​a video where she tried to advocate something about atheism and Romania.


    If you're talking about the "24 years of communism", haven't you ever considered that maybe that was an honest mistake in her facts? She could have been referring to Nicolae Ceausescu's rule of 24 years.

    About the number of atheists in Romania, I hate to break this to you, but it's not just 0.1% as the census from 10 years ago indicates. You don't factor in closet non-confrontational atheists apparently who put in "Orthodox" just because they can't be bothered with contorversy. Plus it would be interesting to see the results of the 2011 census.

    I responded to her very moderate, considering that she has permanently suspended my history channel, to which I work for three years.


    No, accusing people of being "communist" is not moderate, it's pure slander and it's unproductive. You cannot say anything about an atheist's political views until you ask him and I can assure you there are a lot of non-communist, even right-wing atheists around and they are not "deluded" as you have claimed twice. There is no contradiction whatsoever.

    Here is the last straw that got you blocked: Google "How to be a good Creationist - In 5 easy steps" and check the comments. (Around Page 7.)
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