Skip navigation
Sidebar -

Advanced search options →

Welcome

Welcome to CEMB forum.
Please login or register. Did you miss your activation email?

Donations

Help keep the Forum going!
Click on Kitty to donate:

Kitty is lost

Recent Posts


Qur'anic studies today
Today at 09:22 AM

Jamal Khashoggi ...........
Yesterday at 04:55 PM

Freely down loadable Boo...
Yesterday at 10:25 AM

ما هي الحكمة من الماشية ا...
October 13, 2018, 10:15 AM

Save Asia Bibi. The Rampa...
October 13, 2018, 09:06 AM

NayaPakistan...New Pakist...
October 13, 2018, 08:38 AM

What music are you listen...
by zeca
October 11, 2018, 11:11 PM

Here is the News for FAIT...
October 11, 2018, 07:53 PM

Theme Changer

 Topic: Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..

 (Read 44801 times)
  • Previous page 1 ... 4 5 67 Next page « Previous thread | Next thread »
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #150 - August 29, 2018, 04:26 PM

    Creating Arab Origins: Muslim Constructions of  al-Jāhiliyya and Arab History Peter A. Webb Thesis _ 2014 D.,    University of London  ~400 pages of thesis

    THE HISTORY OF THE QURANIC TEXT_ From Revelation to Compilation _ A Comparative Study with the Old and New Testaments   BY MUHAMMAD MUSTAFA AL-AZAMI UK ISLAMIC ACADEMY LEICESTER·ENGLAND
    Quote
    MlJl:lAMMADMUHAFAAL-A'~AM1,one  of  the  world's premier scholars  of Hadith, was born in Mau, India in the early 1930s and  received his education successively atDaral-'UlumDeoband,India(1952), al-Azhar University, Cairo(M.A.,  1955),andUniversity  ofCambridge(Ph.D.,  1966). He  is  ProfessorEmeritus   atKingSa'udUniversity  (Riyadh)  where   he   also  chaired   thedepartmentof  Islamic Studies; he holds a Saudi  citizenship





    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #151 - September 02, 2018, 09:04 AM

    "The problem of the chronology of the Koran," Arabica 58 (2011), 477-502.  by  Gabriel Said Reynolds    University of Notre Dame

    Quote
    Abstract :

    this study challenges the widespread scholarly assumption that the Qurān can only be properly understood when its suras are assigned to a chronological order based on the traditional biography of the Prophet. The first section of the study addresses the origins of this assumption, beginning with Islamic tradition and its reception in the XIXth century works of Gustav Weil and Yeodor Nöldeke. The second section involves a critique of more recent defenses of the idea of a Quranic chronology. The third and final section of the article illustrates the problem of this idea by way of a comparison with scholarship on the Psalms.


    THE QUR’AN IN ITS HISTORICALCONTEXT  Edited byGabriel Said Reynolds

    The  Qur›án  and  Its  Biblical  Subtext

    New Perspectives on the Qur)an The Qur,an in its historical context 2 Edited by Gabriel Said Reynolds ll Routledge " Taylor&Francls Group LONDON AND NEW YORK

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #152 - September 19, 2018, 12:29 PM

    The Chronology of the Qurʾān:A Stylometric Research Program
    Quote
    Using stylometry, I answer three related questions: First, how many authors does the Qurʾān have?

    Second, is the basic textual unit a small fragment nor-mally no more than a few sentences long, or do many relatively large passages form stylistically coherent units?

    Third, what is the relative order in which the passages of the Qurʾān were disseminated?

    Quote
    n addition to establishing a relative chronology in seven phases, this essay demon-strates the stylistic unity of many large passages. It also shows that the Qurʾān has one author

    ..............


    rubbish pub with some 90 pages nonsense .. but  one has to do what one has to do ...

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #153 - September 19, 2018, 10:24 PM

    Why do you think Sadeghi's article is rubbish (not saying Sadeghi is right)?
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #154 - September 20, 2018, 01:53 PM

    Why do you think Sadeghi's article is rubbish (not saying Sadeghi is right)?

    Why?? what kind of question is that dear Mahgraye ??  I WILL ANSWER YOU ..but you tell me why that dr. Prof.  Sadeghi is NOT right?  why do you say that?

    Well ask him to write stories on Sahaba.,  that subject suits him well..,   HE IS NOT FIT  FOR ANALYSIS OF ORIGINS OF QURAN.. here let me help him  http://www.eislamicarabic.com/the-sahaba-stories-biographies/sahaba-stories-biographies.html

    or may be he should work on Shia Islam...

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #155 - September 20, 2018, 03:11 PM

    You did not really answer my question, dear Yeezevee. Sadeghi used stylometric analysis, applied it to the Quran, and concluded that the Quran only has one author. Can you tell me why he is wrong?
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #156 - September 20, 2018, 03:29 PM

    You did not really answer my question, dear Yeezevee.

    off course I didn't .. I said I will dear Mahgraye  .   but you too seem to be hiding answer for the question I asked and  that is
    .......... I WILL ANSWER YOU........but you tell me why that dr. Prof.  Sadeghi is NOT right?  why do you say that?.....................


    and yes.. yes  stylometric analysis., ..........as far as his stylometric analysis of language/words in Quran is concerned....
    Quote
    ............ Sadeghi used stylometric analysis, applied it to the Quran, and concluded that the Quran only has one author. Can you tell me why he is wrong?...............

    So how many papers did he publish on doing that  stylometric analysis.. on books/manuscripts((other than that Quran ))to prove that he is really an expert of linguistic analysis  of ancient/medieval books/manuscripts?  and and if you carefully read through that 90 page paper .. his data graphs in that review   tells me that work is goofy dear Mahgraye .. but that is different matter

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #157 - September 21, 2018, 06:58 PM

    Are you an expert (or someone who knows a lot) about graphs? If you are, please share you criticism so I can corporate it in my own.
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #158 - September 21, 2018, 07:18 PM

    Are you an expert (or someone who knows a lot) about graphs?   If you are, please share you criticism so I can corporate it in my own.

     Cheesy Cheesy  .

    Yes.. yes.. Mahgraye.,  I do know quite bit about graphing the data ..and I  published more than 100 publications with  500 data graphs or so in peer reviewed publications ... but they are  all from basic sciences...

    and ..and I AM NOT THE ONE WHO IS WRITING SUCH PUBLICATIONS....

      just an example look at his paper again.,  say  Page -232 of it.,   there is graph in it     "verse length Vs % of verses"  on surah-77.,  surah-50.,   surah-21.,  surah-11., surh-12 and surah-13  .

    what does it tell you??  does it tell you Quran has single author??   nonsense dear  Mahgraye ...nonsense.,

      If it is in my field and If I review such publications  .. their  place will not be in journals...  lol...

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #159 - September 21, 2018, 11:10 PM

    Okay. I would appreciate if you write a more concise criticism of the graphs so I can incorporate into my own criticism.
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #160 - September 22, 2018, 09:52 AM

     
    Okay. I would appreciate if you write a more concise criticism of the graphs so I can incorporate into my own criticism.

    what is  "Okay" dear Mahgraye??  it is NOT Okay...   Cheesy

    Anyways.,    why would you want to do that??  why would you waste your time or  my time doing a   concise criticism  of that nonsense work when the basic theme of his work is to propagate

    A). Quran has one author  B). Quran has so sophisticated linguistic structure  that it must have come from some super human / in-human  intelligence....

    he starts his paper with ..

    Quote
    "And a Koran We have divided,for thee to recite it to mankind at intervals, and We have sent it down successively. "


    and ends with  a conclusion ..

    Quote
    "In addition to establishing a relative chronology in seven phases, this essay demon-strates the stylistic unity of many large passages. It also shows that the Qurʾān has one author"


    So he is basically "a faith head" and/or propagating "stories of Islam for faith heads"   through some publication in some Arabica Journal....((Arabica 58 (2011) 210-299)) analyzing a  "story/song/sonnet  book " of its time through statistical analysis  of rhyming  words in it..

    why should you or me waste time on it ?  I  tell you what all he is telling me from that 90 page nonsense is ..

    1). He knows how to read OOold Persian publications/books

    2). He knows Arabic language

    3). He knows how to use statistical programs ..
      and

     4). He knows how to write stories on story books in English

    I am not even sure  he ever  read Quran with open mind and open heart or closed mind and closed heart ...lol...

    So if you are in the field and trying to earn bread and butter.. researching/teaching or  writing publications on some ooold faith book/s it is open for you .. NOT FOR ME ..

    his paper/review whatever is 8 year old.. people are moving on evn to question   the existence  of Mecca and Muhammad of Islam  and singing songs on "where is Mecca?  where is Madina and where is zam zam water"

    with bet wishes
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #161 - September 22, 2018, 02:38 PM

    I see your point, but Sadeghi used stylometry, a scientific method, to argue for single authorship. For me, this is more than enough to write a scholarly rebuttal instead of dismissing his results.
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #162 - September 22, 2018, 02:57 PM

    I see your point, but Sadeghi used stylometry, a scientific method, to argue for single authorship. For me, this is more than enough to write a scholarly rebuttal instead of dismissing his results.

    Well if you are in the field publishing/teaching history of faiths you do have a point there dear Mahgraye   ...  To write that voluminous nonsense He obviously reading Quran in Arabic ( I HOPE HE DID THAT) and counting words in each verse of each surah ...

    So assuming you are an expert in Arabic language .. let me give you an idea .. do exactly what he  did but use this one



    the one which is there in that University of Birmingham, on the  leaves of parchment and apparently dates back to A.D. 568 and A.D. 645.

    that will make you famous dear Mahgraye .. off course on the way you can shred his work..  but let me finish the other post on Quran for curious-lurker..

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #163 - September 22, 2018, 09:56 PM

    The Birmingham folios are not that old. A more accurate date would be the end of the 1st/7th century and beginning of the 2nd/8th century CE.
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #164 - September 23, 2018, 04:06 AM

    The Birmingham folios are not that old. A more accurate date would be the end of the 1st/7th century and beginning of the 2nd/8th century CE.


    https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/news/latest/2015/07/quran-manuscript-22-07-15.aspx

    Quote
    Radiocarbon analysis has dated the parchment on which the text is written to the period between AD 568 and 645 with 95.4% accuracy. The test was carried out in a laboratory at the University of Oxford. The result places the leaves close to the time of the Prophet Muhammad, who is generally thought to have lived between AD 570 and 632.




    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #165 - September 23, 2018, 11:07 AM

    I know. It is wrong.
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #166 - September 23, 2018, 12:26 PM

    I know. It is wrong.

    you are probably right  on that dear Mahgraye ..  Now let us get this straight again .. I do remember you or Altara or mundi mentioning it somewhere...

    Q1).  How many of those old manuscripts of Quran we have and we know  THAT WERE WRITTEN/PUBLISHED are older than   1000 AD..  and which is the oldest one ?

    Q2). What % of those written manuscripts resembles exactly same as the present book Quran that we have?

    You being in the field and thoroughly reading most of the literature from the prominent researchers/academics on history of Quran ., I will take your answers  and I would appreciate if you could give clear cut answers on those two questions dear Mahgraye

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #167 - September 23, 2018, 07:31 PM

    There are at least 5, however incomplete, 1st/7th-century manuscripts, and they include the following:

    1) DAM 01-27.1 (last half of the 1st/7th century CE—that is, between 650 and 685 CE)

    2) Arabe 328a-b and Marcel 18 (third quarter of the 1st/7th century CE—that is, between 671 and 695 CE)

    3) Arabe 328c and Mingana Islamic Arabic 1572a (end of the 1st/7th century and beginning of the 2nd/8th century CE)

    4) DAM 20-33.1 (during the reign of al-Walīd b. ʿAbd al-Malik [r. 705–715])

    5) Or. 2165 (end of the 1st/7th century and beginning of the 2nd/8th century CE)

    6) Codex Amrensis 1 (first half of the 2nd/8th century)

    7) Samarkand Codex (beginning of the 2nd/8th century CE)

    8) Cairo Codex (end of the first quarter of the 2nd/8th century CE)

    9) H.S. 44/32 (second quarter of the 2nd/8th century CE—that is, between 661 and 750 CE)

    M. Lamsiah, Makhṭūṭāt al-Qurʾān: madkhal li-dirāsat al-makhṭūṭāt al-qadīma, Canada, 2017, p. 82.

    One should also mention the “Gotthelf Bergsträsser Archive”, which consisted of 154 microfilms of very old Koran codices.  Unbeknownst to most, these materials did not perish in the American bombardment during World War II but were in fact saved and stored in a secure location by a German Arabist, Anton Spitaler (1910–2003). Since 1990, these materials have been in the possession of German Angelika Neuwirth, co-founder of the Corpus Coranicum project. Only recently has Neuwirth published these microfilms. And if some of these materials are indeed ancient, one should also add them to our list of oldest Korans.

    In 2001, the late S. Noja Noseda, professor of Arabic Language and Literature at the Università Cattolica in Milan, alongside François Déroche, a specialist of Arab manuscripts at the National Library of France, analyzed the contents of all hijazid manuscripts securely dated to the seventh century. By comparing the manuscripts to the King Fuʾād edition, they concluded that 83 % of the Koran is represented in those manuscripts. Note, however, that Noseda & Déroche did not include in their analysis Koran materials written on papyri, inscriptions, nor the famous Sanaa palimpsest (Sanaa, Inv. 01-27.1). Taking this into account, and considering a more recent analysis by islamic-awareness.org, the number given by Noseda & Déroche must be higher, somewhere around 90 %.

    In conclusion, despite not having found (in the seventh century, yet) a complete codex, we can say with certainty based on our hijazid manuscripts, inscriptions, papyri, that at least 90 % (or 83 %, going Noseda & Déroche's outdated estimate) by of the Koran existed by the middle of the seventh century (the 650s).

    For my brief text on the Quran, see:

    F. Déroche and S. N. Noseda (Eds.), Sources de la transmission manuscrite du texte coranique. I. Les manuscrits de style hijazi. Volume 2. Tome I. Le manuscrit Or. 2165 (f. 1 à 61) de la British Library, 2001, Fondazione Ferni Noja Noseda, Leda, and British Library: London, p. xxvii.

    Nicolai Sinai, The Qur'an: A Historical-Critical Introduction (Edinburgh University Press, 2017), pp. 45-46.

    Patricia Crone, "Foreword", in The Qurʾānic Pagans and Related Matters, ed. Hanna Siurua (Brill, 2016), p. xiii.

    https://www.islamic-awareness.org/quran/text/mss/hijazi.html
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #168 - September 23, 2018, 08:08 PM


    Hi  Mahgraye  Just curious., this is 2nd or 3rd time you are giving that    "Islamic Awareness.org" link  as reference for the analysis earliest manuscripts on Quran., Now I am curious here

    Q1) None of Academics who are exploring Origins of Quran and History of Islam explored  published any article/reviews   in such a detail as that web site on that important subject?  

    Q2)   That is already 8 year old ..  and no one published anything on that subject since 2010??

    I mean that should NOT be even a reference for academics I wonder why that uncritical article is so popular?? Clearly they have taken most of the data from other folks as I see many well known names in their Acknowledgements ..

    Anyways  thanks for the same link .. I think you should work on a  review on that subject .. Any academic links  from Journals  on that subject??  I tell you  that is far better than that  90 page article of that guy Sadeghi   and his  stylometric analysis  of Quran..

    with best wishes
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #169 - September 23, 2018, 08:15 PM

    The article only collects data, statistics. So there is nothing wrong with citing. Scholars do that but are also cautions as well. Besides, my previous source was Noseda and Deroche.
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #170 - September 23, 2018, 08:51 PM

    The article only collects data, statistics. So there is nothing wrong with citing.  


    I wonder whether you could explain me bit more deatil of that table_II at that link
    Quote
    Table II: Listing of sūrahs and the manuscripts which contain them. Highly fragmented texts are represented inside brackets. These are considered only to represent the sūrahs they contain but not taken into account for calculation of the total number of unique verses

    do you consider that table-II  of that link as an accurate description of data from those manuscripts ?
    Quote
    Scholars do that but are also cautions as well. Besides, my previous source was Noseda and Deroche.

    Why Scholars need to be cautious ?? what are they afraid off??  after all those Manuscripts are true history of early Quran...

    anyways let me hear  his talk from this  Propaganda machinery


    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #171 - September 23, 2018, 09:05 PM

    By cautious I meant that they do not take everything produced by the website (islami-awernaes) at face value, them being apolgists.
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #172 - September 23, 2018, 09:06 PM

    As for Déroche, his probably one of - if not the - leading manuscorpt scholar today.
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #173 - October 01, 2018, 04:50 PM

    By cautious ............ do not take everything ........... at face value, ..............

     Cheesy Cheesy  

    well Thank you for that caution  dear Mahgraye., In fact I will not   take your posts and my posts on their face value....    

    "I am a nomad of faiths
    I am a vagabond of faiths
    I am a seeker of faiths
    I am skeptic of faiths
    I am an inquirer of faiths
    and I question everything "


    with best wishes
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #174 - October 01, 2018, 04:58 PM

    The Qur’an Seminar Commentary Le Qur’an Seminar A Collaborative Study of 50 Qur’anic Passages Commentaire collaboratif  de 50 passages coraniques


    Quote
    The present volume is the work of 25 scholars who participated in the 2012–13 Notre Dame Qurʾān Seminar. The Qurʾān Seminar scholars represent various specializations important to the study of the Qurʾān, including Arabic language, comparative Semitic linguistics, paleography, epigraphy, history,rhetorical theory,hermeneutics,and Biblical studies. The2012–13 Qurʾān Seminar project involved five conferences,each of which consisted of a series of ten sessions, with each session dedicated to a passage of  the Qurʾān. After those conferences the editors of this work solicited writ-ten commentaries from the Qurʾān Seminar scholars. Subsequently we narrowed those commentaries down, seeking to eliminate redundancy,to the number found in the present work. Alist in the opening section of this work (“Commentary Sections by Scholar”)indicates the passages for which each scholar has contributed a commentary


    well that is the introduction written by  Gabriel Said Reynolds and that meeting was dedicated to  the Memory of Patricia Crone (1945–2015)., So those who would like to read click and download 500 pages of discussion/debate  ..

    well let me add this

    Remembering Patricia Crone (1945–2015)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIioTdq7zPY

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #175 - October 01, 2018, 09:26 PM

    Great volume.
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #176 - October 05, 2018, 12:02 PM


    Please read about John walker  1900 to 1964  original member of British Numismatic Society and wrote number of articles and made great contribution to this field of Numismatic .....  and download his 500 pages book

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #177 - October 06, 2018, 02:23 AM

    by Annabel Keeler, Ali Keeler


    A collection of the long-unavailable tafasir, or commentaries on the Qur'an, which help to properly explain and contextualize the revelation, this series aims to make leading exegetical works—in translation, unabridged, and faithful to the letter and meaning of the Arabic—widely available for study and research. The earliest surviving Sufi commentary on the Qur'an, this record is not only one of the few authenticated works in Tustari's name but is also a key source for understanding the mystical thought and teachings of this important and influential Sufi.

    In addition to insights into the spiritual significance of almost 1,000 verses of the Qur'an, this commentary, presented in complete English translation for the first time, includes numerous references to traditions of the Prophet, explanations of the ethical and mystical dimensions of the religious life, stories of the prophets, and anecdotes about earlier mystics. Generously augmented with explanatory footnotes throughout, the book will provide readers with an invaluable introduction to the Sufi tradition of Qur'anic interpretation and acquaint them with spiritual doctrines fundamental to the later development of Sufism.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rupmm08SHVg

    Quote
    Dr Annabel Keeler:  Annabel obtained a BA in Persian from the School of Oriental and African Studies in London in 1981, after which she came to Cambridge to read for a PhD in Islamic Studies, the subject of her thesis being a 12th century Persian Sufi commentary on the Qur’an. In 2002, she became a Junior Research Fellow at Wolfson College, concurrently holding a Research Fellowship in Qur’anic Studies at the Institute of Ismaili Studies in London. She regularly assists with the teaching of classical Persian literature at the Faculty.


    well let me read that book


    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #178 - Yesterday at 06:49 AM

    The Idea of Idolatry and  the Emergence of Islam  From Polemic to History...........  G. R. HAWTING

    Quote
    According to the traditional accounts Islam was not born in the same way
    – not as a result of disputes among monotheists but from a confrontation with
    real idolaters. Furthermore, whereas other major developments within
    monotheism occurred in regions where that tradition of religion was rmly
    established if not always completely dominant (Palestine, Iraq, northern
    Europe and elsewhere), Islam is presented as having arisen in a remote region
    which could be said to be on the periphery of the monotheistic world, if not
    quite outside it.

    None of this is impossible but it does seem remarkable and is
    a reason for suggesting that the traditional account might be questioned.  It
    is a suggestion of the present work that as a religious system Islam should be
    understood as the result of an intra-monotheist polemic, in a process similar
    to that of the emergence of the other main divisions of monotheism.
    ..........

    good book to read

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Freely down loadable Books on Pro-Islam and anti Islam..
     Reply #179 - Yesterday at 08:51 AM

    Angels, Ritual and Sacred Space in Islam  S. R. Bürge   institute of  lsmaili Studies, London

    Quote
    The idea of "sacred space" has been discussed frequently in the   study of religion, both the ways in which faith communities engage  with sacred space, as well as how different religions define and  authenticate their sacred spaces.

    This article will look at the ways in  which Muslim sacred spaces are defined in Islam, looking particularly  at the way in which angels are used to confirm the sanctity of particular locations. It will look notions of sacred space in relation to  the Ka'ba and other places of prayer,  comparing Muslim ideas with those of Judaism, Christianity and other religious traditions.


    great review on comparative narratives on  so called sacred places for faith heads in different faiths..

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Previous page 1 ... 4 5 67 Next page « Previous thread | Next thread »