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  • Tone deaf shed light on origin of language
     OP - October 30, 2012, 01:44 AM

    Still a bit iffy, but interesting anyway. Article here: Tone deaf shed light on origin of language

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    A study involving 'tone deaf' people supports Darwin's idea that music and language evolved from the same emotional "musical protolanguage".

    The research is reported today in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

    First author Professor Bill Thompson of Macquarie University in Sydney says if Charles Darwin was correct, then both music and language should share brain circuitry.

    "If that's true then the vestiges of that protolanguage should still be in some shared neural resources of these two forms of communication," says Thompson, who is head of psychology and also a chief investigator in the Australian Research Council Centre of Excellence in Cognition and its Disorders.

    Thompson says the strongest link between music and language is that they both involve emotional communication through changes in pitch.

    The importance of pitch in music is obvious. In speech too, communication of emotion depends on changing pitch, known as 'speech prosody'.

    "We all know people who have difficulty perceiving tone of voice. They just don't get it when we're being ironic. They don't get it when we're irritated. It just goes over their head," says Thompson.

    He thinks Darwin was right about the shared roots of language and music and such people have what is essentially a music-related problem.


    Study of 'tone deaf' people

    To investigate this link between music and language, Thompson and colleagues studied people diagnosed with "congenital amusia", who have difficulty perceiving changes in pitch and therefore find it hard to hold a tune.

    The researchers were interested in whether this impairment also made it hard for people to pick up emotional communication in speech.


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  • Re: Tone deaf shed light on origin of language
     Reply #1 - October 30, 2012, 08:14 AM

    I didn't realise Darwin had proposed the link between music and language. I thought following Singing Neanderthal this was accepted.

    Is Allah anti singing?

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


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  • Re: Tone deaf shed light on origin of language
     Reply #2 - October 30, 2012, 10:31 AM

    On a related note, can you go 5 minutes in your life without mentioning Allah?
  • Re: Tone deaf shed light on origin of language
     Reply #3 - October 30, 2012, 02:27 PM

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    MUSIC IN ISLAM
    Contents

    Introduction

    Music is Haram

    The Effects
      
     

    Introduction

    In recent years, certain developments have taken place which has brought the subject of music as an extremely significant issue.  Music has spread to such an extent that it is afflicting every muslim in this modern era. Today, individuals are being confronted by a situation where one is forced to listen to music whether by choice or without. Music is played in nearly all department stores and super markets. Even whilst walking in the streets, we find cars blaring with music. No matter which direction we go, we are blasted with music. The increasing popularity of music, which is prevalent in our society poses a tremendous danger for muslims.

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    Music is Haraam

    References within the context of the Holy Qur`aan along with the Hadith of the Prophet  confirm that music is haraam.  
    Interpreters of the Qur`aan have defined the term `lahwal hadith` which is mentioned in the Qur`aan as:

     1) Singing and listening to songs.  
     2) Purchasing of male and female singers.  
     3) Purchase of instruments of fun and amusement.

    When Sayyidana Abdullah Ibne Mas`ood , a very close companion of our Prophet  was asked about the meaning of the term `lahwal hadith`, he replied

    “I swear by Him besides whom there is no other God,that it refers to ghinaa (singing ).”
    This statement, he repeated three times. This view is unanimously supported by the four Khalifas, the eminent Sahabaah, Tabi`een, the four Imaams and other reliable Islaamic scholars and authorities.

    One hadith from the Bukhari Shareef, the most authentic Book of Hadith, further confirms unlawfulness of music and singing :

    `There will be people of my Ummah who will seek to make lawful; fornication, wine-drinking and the use of ma`aazif ( musical instruments ).`
    Detailed analysis of the arabic word `ma`aazif ` shows that it refers to musical instruments, the sounds of those musical instruments and singing with the accompaniment of instruments.

    Closer analysis of the wordings of the Hadith establishes the prohibition of music. Firstly, the words `seek to make lawful ` shows that music is not permissible, as logically one can only seek to make lawful that which is not allowed. Secondly, if music was not prohibited, then it would not have been brought within the same context as fornication and wine-drinking.

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    MUSIC - IT`S EFFECTS

    Muslims are aware that nothing has been prohibited by Allah except that which is harmful to the welfare of a Muslim individual and the society as a whole. The divine attribute behind the prohibition of music can be comprehended by looking into the diverse influence music can have.

    Experiments carried out by doctors and professors have confirmed that the music of today is such that it does not only affect the brain, but each and every organ of one`s body. There is a close relationship between music and bodily movements. We find that people listening to music automatically start tapping their fingers and feet, as if the music is permeating in their blood.

    It is also proved that music affect`s one`s emotions, increases arousal in terms of alertness and excitement and also leads to various physiological changes in the person. In a psychology experiment, it was found that listening to moderate type of music increased one`s normal heart beat, whilst listening to rock music the heart beat increased even further, yet people claim that music has no effect.

    It is a very ignorant and misguided attitude to percieve music as a form of pleasure and passing of time, since the messages of today`s music follow a general theme of love, fornication, drugs and freedom.

    We find that the whole world is obsessed with the kufr idea of freedom, i.e. freedom of speech, freedom of movement, etc. In modern schools  and universities, we observe independence, free expression and secular thinking being encouraged. This idea of freedom, “ It`s my life, I`ll do what I want” is a predominant, underlying theme of today`s music. It is being used as a means for drilling those modern ideologies that are totally contrary to Islamic Shariah and values, into the minds of Muslims.

    One should abstain from evil audacities such as listening to music and encourage others to do the same too.

    MAY ALMIGHTY ALLAH GUIDE US ALL TO THE STRAIGHT PATH-
    AMEEN.


    Second in list of google search of words music and Islam.  As speech only exists because of singing and music, sharia therefore means we must be silent.

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Tone deaf shed light on origin of language
     Reply #4 - October 30, 2012, 02:37 PM

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    Especially welcome to communication and cognitive studies in general is Mithen’s emphasis on the importance of acquiring “emotional intelligence”—the ability to communicate one’s feelings with face, voice, and body and to decode the emotional signals of others in increasingly complex social interactions.

    Mithen proposes that “vocal grooming” (Aiello and Dunbar 1993) would have been initially musical more than verbal (pp. 135-36).. Rather than emphasizing the Machiavellian competitive advantages of comprehending the intentions and desires of others, Mithen points out that the emotional content of musical vocalizations would have been more ‘honest’ than words—contributing to social commitment and expressing, inducing, and sharing emotion, especially happiness, thereby promoting selectively advantageous cooperative behavior.

    Not cited by Mithen is a provocative supportive observation made by Steven Brown (2000b, p. 297) that the two most salient features of music, compared to any other form of vocal communication in nature, are its use of temporal synchronization and pitch-blending. This leads Brown to propose that these cognitive capacities may have evolved specifically for coordination and emotional unification among individuals in a group and thus may be adaptations specifically for group selection.


    http://www.epjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/ep03375380.pdf

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Tone deaf shed light on origin of language
     Reply #5 - October 30, 2012, 02:38 PM

    Second in list of google search of words music and Islam.  As speech only exists because of singing and music, sharia therefore means we must be silent.

    Dammit, I was just starting to like sharia.
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