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  • Egypt Elections 101? Can someone explain
     OP - December 01, 2011, 03:11 PM



    So can someone explain to me what's going on with Egypt's elections. I feel like I'm getting biased reporting on Western media.

    1. Are these actual elections? or just preliminary ones?

    2. Who are the parties running and on what principles are they running on?

    3. Which party seems more favorable and why?

    4. Is there a particular party you think will be good for Egypt (best of the worst I suppose)

    5. Where do you think Egypt will go from here, and how do you see the country changing?

    6. Do you miss Mubarak?  grin12



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  • Re: Egypt Elections 101? Can someone explain
     Reply #1 - December 01, 2011, 03:15 PM

    A hearty recommendation: arabist.net.
  • Re: Egypt Elections 101? Can someone explain
     Reply #2 - December 01, 2011, 04:01 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87AyBBYmIi4





    well couple  good looking happy colored fingers from Egypt.. read it all clicking the picture..
     

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Egypt Elections 101? Can someone explain
     Reply #3 - December 01, 2011, 05:13 PM

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    So can someone explain to me what's going on with Egypt's elections. I feel like I'm getting biased reporting on Western media.

    1. Are these actual elections? or just preliminary ones?


    Yes, they are elections for the parlementary structure which will make Egypt's new constitution.

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    2. Who are the parties running and on what principles are they running on?


    Too many parties and single persons to mention. Every principle is represented.

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    3. Which party seems more favorable and why?


    The Muslim Brotherhood seems to have the best papers with over 30%; second is the extremist Salafist party with about 15%. Why? Because they are well-organized, and the Egyptians have voted for them.

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    4. Is there a particular party you think will be good for Egypt (best of the worst I suppose)


    That's for the Egyptians to decide. They will get the government they want and deserve.

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    5. Where do you think Egypt will go from here, and how do you see the country changing?


    The two Islamist parties will form a coalition with other conservative parties. Then the Salafists will take over, work together with the army and forbid all other parties. Sharia law will be enforced, and the country will turn into a Caliphate with salafistic revolutionary guards. A stong anti-Iran and anti-Israel program will arise. Further elections will have to wait untill another revolution will take place, but that may take several decades.

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    6. Do you miss Mubarak?  grin12


    Not at all. He is responsible for the shit Egypt will be in now   grin12

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  • Re: Egypt Elections 101? Can someone explain
     Reply #4 - December 02, 2011, 03:04 AM

    That's for the Egyptians to decide. They will get the government they want and deserve.


    Translation: Hallakuf doesn't think much of Egyptians or sand niggers in general.

    As far as "the government they want" part is concerned, you seem to have an all- too-common shallow and ignorant analysis of representative/parliamentary "democracy"-- elections are only partly the result of the general will of the people-- organization and resources and messaging are more determinative of election outcomes.

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    The two Islamist parties will form a coalition with other conservative parties. Then the Salafists will take over, work together with the army and forbid all other parties. Sharia law will be enforced, and the country will turn into a Caliphate with salafistic revolutionary guards. A stong anti-Iran and anti-Israel program will arise. Further elections will have to wait untill another revolution will take place, but that may take several decades.


     Roll Eyes

    You're an idiot. Hardly anyone in Egypt, even amongst the secular opposition to the Muslim Brotherhood, thinks this is a realistic outcome. I grant you it could happen, but your certainty it will is unwarranted.

    6. Do you miss Mubarak?  grin12


    No, he wasn't even worthy of being called a dictator-- just a weak, spineless kleptocrat who used patronage and corruption in the bureaucratic machinery to stay in power. I mean the guy wasn't all bad, not like he was evil or anything, but he did very little to advance Egypt and did a lot to stagnate growth and progress.

    I do miss Nasser-- for all his faults he was the last decent leader Egypt had.

    fuck you
  • Re: Egypt Elections 101? Can someone explain
     Reply #5 - December 02, 2011, 04:39 PM

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    Translation: Hallakuf doesn't think much of Egyptians or sand niggers in general.


    Prejudice. IMO, every people gets the government it deserves. The Persians put their own dictators on the throne, and so did the Germans in 1933.

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    As far as "the government they want" part is concerned, you seem to have an all- too-common shallow and ignorant analysis of representative/parliamentary "democracy"-- elections are only partly the result of the general will of the people-- organization and resources and messaging are more determinative of election outcomes.


    Still it is, in the end, elections.

    My Quote:
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    The two Islamist parties will form a coalition with other conservative parties. Then the Salafists will take over, work together with the army and forbid all other parties. Sharia law will be enforced, and the country will turn into a Caliphate with salafistic revolutionary guards. A stong anti-Iran and anti-Israel program will arise. Further elections will have to wait untill another revolution will take place, but that may take several decades.[/my quote]


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    You're an idiot.

    Thanks for the compliment. Strong argument! Wink

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    Hardly anyone in Egypt, even amongst the secular opposition to the Muslim Brotherhood, thinks this is a realistic outcome. I grant you it could happen, but your certainty it will is unwarranted.


    Hoho, I never mentioned certainty, and this outcome is far from what I wish the Egyptians. We will have to wait what will arise out of this, and I hope I'm wrong. I'm not optimistic, though.

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: Egypt Elections 101? Can someone explain
     Reply #6 - December 04, 2011, 06:18 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L402RmAIxn0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNYkZCA2gGA

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Egypt Elections 101? Can someone explain
     Reply #7 - December 04, 2011, 10:40 AM

    ^ Afro Thank you.

    Religion is organized superstition
  • Re: Egypt Elections 101? Can someone explain
     Reply #8 - December 04, 2011, 12:40 PM

    Egypts future? I hope not:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8933537/Aboud-al-Zumour-Islamic-Jihad-mastermind-of-Sadats-murder-comes-in-from-the-cold-after-Egypt-election.html

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            Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

    - John Keats
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