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  • The Execution Of Troy Davis
     OP - September 23, 2011, 04:34 PM

    As I'm sure many of you are aware that an individual by the name of Troy Davis was executed on Wednesday after being being convicted of killing a police officer in America, it's recently received a lot more media attention as the date of his execution loomed, after looking into this story a bit more I've been shocked by a number of issues,

    namely the uncertainty of Troy Davis's conviction, 7 out of the 9 witness accounts have been found to be either contradictory or withdrawn, the lack of DNA evidence linking Troy Davis to the murder, calls by many influential individuals calling for his execution to be delayed so that the evidence should be reexamined and a possible retrial to be held.

    In spite of this the state of Georgia decided to ignore all of this and go ahead with the planned execution. So how do you guys and especially our American cousins feel about this trial and what it signifies? Have you lost your faith in the judicial system and of democracy in general? What do you think of the US goverment's admission that this is ultimately a state issue and should be thus decided by the respective state?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/21/troy-davis-10-reasons?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #1 - September 23, 2011, 06:29 PM

    I'll have an articulate response to this once I stop seeing red at the mention of his name.

    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
    Muhammad Ali
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #2 - September 23, 2011, 07:20 PM

    This is only the latest example of the egregious hypocrisy practiced by the leaders, politicians, law enforcers and justice system in the U.S., the hypocrisy stemming from the fact that the most nationalistic, right-wing factions of the U.S. population and govts then presume to have the moral high ground to tell everyone else in the world how to respect "human rights".

    Troy Davis's state-enforced murder brings out so many of the systemic problems in domestic U.S. legal and political systems. I too have been stunned almost to the point of speechlessness.

    On the same day that this black man was killed by the State of Georgia (after a "black" president refused to intervene in any capacity, and all the evidence that showed the lack of credibility of the prosecution's case against Davis was ignored by the Supreme Court), a white man, also in Georgia, who confessed to his crimes was given a stay of execution.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #3 - September 23, 2011, 07:25 PM

    Law is a ass!

    Thank god europe abolished death penalty!


    Weird thing is that the more religious a society is the more they want death penalty!


    Little Fly, Thy summer's play
    My thoughtless hand has brushed away.

    I too dance and drink, and sing,
    Till some blind hand shall brush my wing.

    Therefore I am a happy fly,
    If I live or if I die.
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #4 - September 23, 2011, 07:31 PM

    That is true except for the case of China, among others like India, South Korea and Japan.

    China is the #1 in the world in terms of capital punishments carried out.

    Quote
    Countries that still practice capital punishment

    Afghanistan
    Antigua and Barbuda
    Bahamas
    Bahrain
    Bangladesh
    Barbados
    Belarus
    Belize
    Botswana
    Burundi
    Cameroon
    Chad
    China (People's Republic)
    Comoros
    Congo (Democratic Republic)
    Cuba
    Dominica
    Egypt
    Equatorial Guinea
    Eritrea
    Ethiopia
    Gabon
    Ghana
    Guatemala
    Guinea
    Guyana
    India
    Indonesia
    Iran
    Iraq
    Jamaica
    Japan
    Jordan
    Korea, North
    Korea, South
    Kuwait
    Laos
    Lebanon
    Lesotho
    Libya
    Malawi
    Malaysia
    Mongolia
    Nigeria
    Oman
    Pakistan
    Palestinian Authority
    Qatar
    St. Kitts and Nevis
    St. Lucia
    St. Vincent and the Grenadines
    Saudi Arabia
    Sierra Leone
    Singapore
    Somalia
    Sudan
    Swaziland
    Syria
    Taiwan
    Tajikistan
    Tanzania
    Thailand
    Trinidad and Tobago
    Uganda
    United Arab Emirates
    United States
    Vietnam
    Yemen
    Zambia
    Zimbabwe

    Source: The Death Penalty Worldwide


    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #5 - September 23, 2011, 07:39 PM

    The U.S., #5 among death penalty practicing nations, executed more people than Saudi Arabia.

    (2010 figures, source: Wiki & others)

    1    People's Republic of China   Upto 5,000
    2    Iran   252+   
    3    North Korea   60+
    4    Yemen   53+
    5    United States   46
    6    Saudi Arabia   27+
    7    Libya   18+
    8    Syria   17+
    9    Bangladesh   9+
    10    Somalia   8+
    11    Sudan   6+
    12    Palestinian Authority   5
    13    Egypt   4
    14    Equatorial Guinea   4
    15    Taiwan   4
    16    Belarus   2
    17    Japan   2
    18    Iraq   1+
    19    Malaysia   1+
    20    Bahrain   1

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #6 - September 23, 2011, 07:43 PM

    The death penalty is one of the most immoral acts of a so-called "justice" system.
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #7 - September 23, 2011, 07:51 PM

    The U.S., #5 among death penalty practicing nations, executed more people than Saudi Arabia.

    (2010 figures, source: Wiki & others)

    1    People's Republic of China   Upto 5,000

    2    Iran   252+   
    3    North Korea   60+
    4    Yemen   53+
    5    United States   46
    6    Saudi Arabia   27+
    7    Libya   18+
    8    Syria   17+

    9    Bangladesh   9+
    10    Somalia   8+
    11    Sudan   6+

    12    Palestinian Authority   5
    13    Egypt   4
    14    Equatorial Guinea   4
    15    Taiwan   4
    16    Belarus   2
    17    Japan   2
    18    Iraq   1+
    19    Malaysia   1+
    20    Bahrain   1

    It is not only how many people were murdered by the State but the reasons they were killed is more Important., The question  is were they hardened criminals or were they opposing the regimes/ governments?? and In Islamic countries were they Sharai based.. blood for blood and death for death rule??  I bet many of those deaths in those highlighted countries may be questionable capital punishments.

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #8 - September 23, 2011, 08:12 PM

    Last two years ago they had been a debate at the House of Representives on abolishing death penalty  over here, i dont know how it ended but the bill never passed.

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #9 - September 23, 2011, 08:29 PM

    This is only the latest example of the egregious hypocrisy practiced by the leaders, politicians, law enforcers and justice system in the U.S., the hypocrisy stemming from the fact that the most nationalistic, right-wing factions of the U.S. population and govts then presume to have the moral high ground to tell everyone else in the world how to respect "human rights".


    right-wing dumbass: Yeah we love killing people, but we are also pro-life!

    Troy Davis's state-enforced murder brings out so many of the systemic problems in domestic U.S. legal and political systems. I too have been stunned almost to the point of speechlessness.

    On the same day that this black man was killed by the State of Georgia (after a "black" president refused to intervene in any capacity, and all the evidence that showed the lack of credibility of the prosecution's case against Davis was ignored by the Supreme Court), a white man, also in Georgia, who confessed to his crimes was given a stay of execution.


    The up and coming Republican primaries only confounds the fear that the judicial system of the land of the free will be mired in more right-wing lunacy, i was watching one of the debates between the Republican candidates and when Prick Perry was asked whether he felt any sort of guilt whenever he signs off for an execution, without hesitation he said no, after which this was met by a ghastly raucous applause by the audience.

    Going back to the case, apparently when a retrial was done the defense team was required to prove that Troy Davis was innocent beyond reasonable doubt, and the failure to do so automatically proved that he was guilty beyond reasonable doubt, however i found out about a case of where two police officers brutally attacked and killed a mentally ill homeless man:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIhb-FgKEKs&feature=channel_video_title

    However apart from looking like an open and closed case, some suspect that these two won't be charged with murder let alone convicted of premeditated murder:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/23/ap/business/main20110560.shtml

    This surely demonstrates a sad and worrying state of affairs, may the Judeo-christian God bless America.
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #10 - September 23, 2011, 08:35 PM

    the defense team was required to prove that Troy Davis was innocent beyond reasonable doubt, and the failure to do so automatically proved that he was guilty beyond reasonable doubt


    Yeah, of course.... guilty until proven innocent. Roll Eyes

    Quote
    "I tell people that if you're going to commit murder, you want to be white, and you want to be wealthy — so that you can hire a first-class lawyer — and you want to kill a black person. And if [you are], the odds of your being sentenced to death are basically zero. It's one thing to say that rich people should be able to drive Ferraris and poor people should have to take the bus. It's very different to say that rich people should get treated one way by the state's criminal-justice system and poor people should get treated another way. But that is the system that we have."
    --David Dow, author of "The Autobiography of an Execution"

    Source


    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #11 - September 23, 2011, 08:58 PM

    This case does seem to be particularly dodgy, but I haven't read up on it much. I've only skimmed one or two articles so far.

    The U.S., #5 among death penalty practicing nations, executed more people than Saudi Arabia.

    (2010 figures, source: Wiki & others)

    1    People's Republic of China   Upto 5,000
    2    Iran   252+   
    3    North Korea   60+
    4    Yemen   53+
    5    United States   46
    6    Saudi Arabia   27+
    7    Libya   18+
    8    Syria   17+
    9    Bangladesh   9+
    10    Somalia   8+
    11    Sudan   6+
    12    Palestinian Authority   5
    13    Egypt   4
    14    Equatorial Guinea   4
    15    Taiwan   4
    16    Belarus   2
    17    Japan   2
    18    Iraq   1+
    19    Malaysia   1+
    20    Bahrain   1

    You're not taking the population into account. The US has close to ten times the population of SA, so on a per capita basis it only has around 20% of the executions.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #12 - September 23, 2011, 09:04 PM

    I'm not making any claims about whether religious-sanctioned state murder is worse or better than supposedly secular-based reasoning for state executions. Nor am I making claims about per capita executions of one place or another. The numbers are there, China: non-religious state, executes more than the rest of the world's nations combined.... the rest are mostly Muslim-majority states, and then there is the USA that executes more than any other developed nation.

    To argue for this reasoning or that reasoning justifying state-enforced murder, is getting into territory that is perhaps not all thought out. Who gets to decide whether the state should have the power to kill people? How is justice ensured? How does an irreversible punishment exist in a world where there is even one case of someone being executed when their guilt was not proven beyond reasonable doubt? Is it justified for any state to murder 1000 "hardened criminals" if 1 or 2 or 10 innocent people get killed along the way? If not, then what way is there to ensure innocent people never get executed, other than to remove the possibility of capital punishment?

    And... what is the message a state sends when it kills people to show that killing people is wrong?

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #13 - September 25, 2011, 07:10 PM

    Troy Davis is a poor poster boy for the anti death penalty campaigners, because once you look into the case he looks very guilty indeed.  He shot a man in the face an hour before Mark McPhail was killed, and the bullets from that shooting matched those taken from McPhail's body.

    I don't think anybody should hang their opposition to the death penalty on Troy Davis, especially when there's a far more obvious injustice in the case of Cameron Todd Wallingham.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #14 - September 25, 2011, 07:25 PM



    They should also be charged for criminal ugliness.

    Quote
    However apart from looking like an open and closed case, some suspect that these two won't be charged with murder let alone convicted of premeditated murder:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/23/ap/business/main20110560.shtml

    This surely demonstrates a sad and worrying state of affairs, may the Judeo-christian God bless America.


    No surprise. Cops walk for this kind of shit all the fuckin time, and DAs rarely charge them appropriately (even as they overcharge everyone else to attempt to leverage plea bargains).

    fuck you
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #15 - September 25, 2011, 07:40 PM

    They should also be charged for criminal ugliness.


     Cheesy

    No surprise. Cops walk for this kind of shit all the fuckin time, and DAs rarely charge them appropriately (even as they overcharge everyone else to attempt to leverage plea bargains).


    Is this a nation wide problem or is it restricted to certain areas of social and economic deprivation?
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #16 - September 25, 2011, 07:53 PM

    Nationwide, kid-- I mean it doesn't happen to the rich, but the vast majority of us (the working-class) can be targets-- being especially poor or Black or Hispanic or in a poor neighborhood just makes it worse. Cops run poor and working-class communities like the IDF runs the West Bank. Highest incarceration rate in the world, regular trampling of civil liberties and Constitutional rights (now largely eviscerated by the courts in favor of police and prosecutorial power), seizure laws that have made "innocent until proven guilty" irrelevant, prison overcrowding, privatized for-profit prisons, regular unlawful beatings, arrests, and murders by the police, and the use of wiretapping laws to actually prosecute people who video police misconduct.

    I once thought calling the US a police state by my fellow leftists was alarmist and hyperbolic-- now I think it's right on the money-- the evidence is overwhelming.

    fuck you
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #17 - September 25, 2011, 08:09 PM

    Nationwide, kid-- I mean it doesn't happen to the rich, but the vast majority of us (the working-class) can be targets-- being especially poor or Black or Hispanic or in a poor neighborhood just makes it worse. Cops run poor and working-class communities like the IDF runs the West Bank. Highest incarceration rate in the world, regular trampling of civil liberties and Constitutional rights (now largely eviscerated by the courts in favor of police and prosecutorial power), seizure laws that have made "innocent until proven guilty" irrelevant, prison overcrowding, privatized for-profit prisons, regular unlawful beatings, arrests, and murders by the police, and the use of wiretapping laws to actually prosecute people who video police misconduct.

    I once thought calling the US a police state by my fellow leftists was alarmist and hyperbolic-- now I think it's right on the money-- the evidence is overwhelming.


    But you do have Disney land?!  Shocked

    OK on a serious note what's your view of the UK political climate?  I've also heard on various occasions that we also live in police state, weird thing is that i do live in a poor and deprived area of the UK, in fact we have the highest rate of unemployment of anywhere else in the UK and of course the other trappings of a deprived area like a high crime rate etc.
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #18 - September 25, 2011, 08:09 PM

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  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #19 - September 25, 2011, 08:13 PM

    But you do have Disney land?!  Shocked

    OK on a serious note what's your view of the UK political climate?  I've also heard on various occasions that we also live in police state, weird thing is that i do live in a poor and deprived area of the UK, in fact we have the highest rate of unemployment of anywhere else in the UK and of course the other trappings of a deprived area like a high crime rate etc.


    I would say you live in something close to a police state just based on the sheer level of state surveillance and oppressive laws and regulations, however it's a much more benign one as your incarceration rate is much, much lower than ours, and your cops considerably less aggressive. Not to say you don't have cops who are brutal dicks, but it's not as endemic as here nor is simply making arrests for the sake of making arrests as valued there as it is amongst law enforcement institutions here, and your sentencing isn't as bad.

    fuck you
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #20 - September 25, 2011, 08:25 PM

    umm, i guess when you live in a microcosm that is heavy influenced by the suffocating mix of traditional Desi and "Islamic" values in which the societal restraints and taboos (in some instances), are more oppressive and restricting than the restraints imposed by the state, i guess someone like myself wouldn't consider the situation as that bad (shrugs).
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #21 - September 25, 2011, 08:29 PM

    Makes sense.

    fuck you
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #22 - September 26, 2011, 12:41 AM

    Troy Davis is a poor poster boy for the anti death penalty campaigners, because once you look into the case he looks very guilty indeed.  He shot a man in the face an hour before Mark McPhail was killed, and the bullets from that shooting matched those taken from McPhail's body.


    As the article in the OP states:

    Quote
    1. Of the nine witnesses who appeared at Davis's 1991 trial who said they had seen Davis beating up a homeless man in a dispute over a bottle of beer and then shooting to death a police officer, Mark MacPhail, who was acting as a good samaritan, seven have since recanted their evidence.

    2. One of those who recanted, Antoine Williams, subsequently revealed they had no idea who shot the officer and that they were illiterate – meaning they could not read the police statements that they had signed at the time of the murder in 1989. Others said they had falsely testified that they had overheard Davis confess to the murder.

    3. Many of those who retracted their evidence said that they had been cajoled by police into testifying against Davis. Some said they had been threatened with being put on trial themselves if they did not co-operate.

    4. Of the two of the nine key witnesses who have not changed their story publicly, one has kept silent for the past 20 years and refuses to talk, and the other is Sylvester Coles. Coles was the man who first came forward to police and implicated Davis as the killer. But over the past 20 years evidence has grown that Coles himself may be the gunman and that he was fingering Davis to save his own skin.

    5. In total, nine people have come forward with evidence that implicates Coles. Most recently, on Monday the George Board of Pardons and Paroles heard from Quiana Glover who told the panel that in June 2009 she had heard Coles, who had been drinking heavily, confess to the murder of MacPhail.

    6. Apart from the witness evidence, most of which has since been cast into doubt, there was no forensic evidence gathered that links Davis to the killing.

    7. In particular, there is no DNA evidence of any sort. The human rights group the Constitution Project points out that three-quarters of those prisoners who have been exonerated and declared innocent in the US were convicted at least in part on the basis of faulty eyewitness testimony.

    8. No gun was ever found connected to the murder. Coles later admitted that he owned the same type of .38-calibre gun that had delivered the fatal bullets, but that he had given it away to another man earlier on the night of the shooting.

    9. Higher courts in the US have repeatedly refused to grant Davis a retrial on the grounds that he had failed to "prove his innocence". His supporters counter that where the ultimate penalty is at stake, it should be for the courts to be beyond any reasonable doubt of his guilt.


    That last point there shows that the courts decided the burden of proof was on the defense and not on the prosecution, which is basically an ass-backwards way to do "justice".

    From this CBS article:

    Quote
    Davis, who is black, was charged, tried and convicted in Georgia for murdering a white police officer. He was sentenced to death in 1991. There was no physical evidence linking him to the crime. There was no DNA. There was no murder weapon found on him. Since his trial, seven of the nine main prosecution eyewitnesses against him have recanted their trial testimony. Some of these witnesses claim police coercion or harsh interrogation tactics caused them to be untruthful at trial.

    Moreover, a handful of witnesses have stepped forward to claim that another man has confessed to the crime. This "other man," according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, is one of the two remaining trial witnesses who, not surprisingly, still claims that Davis shot the officer. The final eyewitness (of the nine we are concerned with) initially told the police that he could not identify Davis at the crime scene before later changing his tune at trial and incriminating Davis. Even during this new age of DNA there has been no great movement to resolve these legal and factual conflicts.

    Short of seeing a videotape of that other fellow's confession, it's hard to imagine a scenario that more clearly calls out for a full and independent evidentiary hearing, or even a new trial, to assess the validity of the changed narrative about Davis' role in the crime. And, indeed, in an earlier time in our history it is quite likely that the federal courts would have ensured such a review. No more. The highly-politicized, step-by-step closing of the courthouse doors to appeals like this-the intentional restriction of meaningful appeals rights-may send an innocent man to his death.

    When Davis' appeal on these issues made it to the Georgia Supreme Court the judges there denied him any relief and declared in a 4-3 vote that there must be "no doubt of any kind" but that the trial testimony was of the "purest fabrication" in order to warrant interceding on Davis' behalf. Got that? It takes only the absence of "reasonable doubt" to convict someone of murder but in Georgia to properly investigate a condemned man's strong claim of innocence judges have to have "no doubt" at the outset of the inquiry that the inquiry will prove his innocence. How, one dissenting Georgia justice asked, can anyone ever meet such a standard?


    Even many of the original jurors when interviewed by the Guardian, questioned their own original decisions.

    One example from the Guardian article:

    Quote
    During the trial, Forrest (one of the jurors) was swayed by the testimony of Dorothy Ferrell, who said she witnessed the slaying from a hotel across the street. On the witness stand, Ferrell said she was "real sure, positive sure" that Davis was the shooter.

    Years later, Ferrell signed a sworn statement for Davis' lawyers that she felt pressured by police to name Davis as the shooter because she was on parole for a shoplifting conviction at the time of the trial. Forrest said reviewing Ferrell's statement weighed heavily in her decision to question their verdict.

    "If I had known the young lady had issues in her past that made her susceptible to being pushed into something, I would not have put so much emphasis on what she said," Forrest said.


    I don't think anybody should hang their opposition to the death penalty on Troy Davis, especially when there's a far more obvious injustice in the case of Cameron Todd Wallingham.


    There are plenty of cases where the accused's guilt for the crime for which s/he is convicted is not 100% clear and beyond reasonable doubt. One case doesn't have to take attention away from another.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #23 - September 26, 2011, 02:52 AM

  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #24 - September 26, 2011, 03:34 AM

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    It's been a long strange year for Dr. Carlo Anthony Musso, the contractor in charge of the Georgia Department of Correction's death chamber. What with allegations of botched executions and illegal drug-running, formal requests to suspend his license to practice medicine in Georgia, human experiments using medically unapproved drugs for killing people, and, of course, his role as the hired killer of Troy Davis, the death row inmate against whom the evidence was so flimsy that a million protestors signed petitions to have his death sentence commuted--Musso's calendar has been as loaded as his bank account.

    When the State of Georgia finally put Troy Davis to death last week, ignoring the the pleas of three Nobel laureates, the pope, and a long list of prominent figures in government and popular culture, Musso, one of the bit players in the 34 state-run death mills, was exposed to a brief glare of notoriety. The physician contracted to kill Davis owns several medical services companies with offices in the Atlanta area, including Correct Health and Rainbow Medical Associates. Oddly, while Correct Health's mission statement proclaims that "our primary purpose is to provide healthcare services to patients in correctional facilities" [2], Musso's Rainbow Medical Associates earns a handsome fee for each inmate it sedates, paralyzes, and kills. Even his Correct Health firm has been implicated in the illegal sale of deadly drugs for executions. Both companies share the same business address: 9020 Peridot Parkway, Stockbridge, GA 30281.

    As a licensed physician, Dr. Musso's direct involvement with executions raises ethical questions. The American Medical Association's Code of Medical Ethics reads, in part, "A physician, as a member of a profession dedicated to preserving life when there is hope of doing so, should not be a participant in a legally authorized execution." [3] The American Board of Anesthesiologists issued a mandate in 2010 that any member who participated in executing a prisoner by lethal injection would have their certification revoked. [4] But Musso found a way to enrich himself while skirting professional ethics. Prior to the granting of a contract to Rainbow Medical Associates, the State of Georgia had been paying the supervising physician $850 per execution. Under pressure to find a contractor to handle an upcoming execution, the state agreed to Musso's demand for contracted fee of $18,000 per execution [5]--a 2,100% increase.

    Dr. Musso's human experiments with deadly poisons and alleged illegal sales to two other states offers a glimpse into the bizarre world of the state "death mills" and the paradoxical relationships among the medical profession, the pharmaceutical industry, international views of the death penalty, and the law. The death drug "crisis" began when Hospira, the only US manufacturer of sodium thiopental, one of the drugs in the three-drug "cocktail" used to execute prisoners, stopped production of the drug in 2010. The states of Oklahoma, Kentucky, and California announced that they had been forced to delay scheduled executions. Hospira's response to its cutoff of the supply is notable. The Guardian reported that "in a statement, the company insisted the shortage was due to a breakdown in the supply chain. But it also reiterated its longstanding complaint about the use of its drug in executions, saying: 'Hospira manufactures this product because it improves or saves lives, and the company markets it solely for use as indicated on the product labeling. The drug is not indicated for capital punishment, and Hospira does not support its use in this procedure.'" [6]

    The three-drug protocol of which sodium thiopental is a component was developed in 1977 by an unqualified medical tinkerer for the state of Oklahoma, Dr. A. Jay Chapman [7], without any qualified review of its suitability for killing a person, effective dosage levels, monitoring methods or handling, particularly to avoid torturing the subject in the process. Incredibly, Chapman's protocol was eventually adopted virtually unchanged, and without professional review, by most states that currently enforce a death penalty. Along the way, corrections officials with little or no medical training have been left to their own devices as to the methods, dosages, administration and monitoring practices for killing their inmates.

    The classical lethal injection recipe that Chapman pioneered is an initial shot of sodium thiopental, an anesthetic, followed by pancuronium bromide, a muscle relaxant that causes paralysis, and finally potassium chloride, which causes death by heart arrest within a couple of minutes. To avoid torturing the recipient, it is essential that the subject be anesthetized and rendered unconscious (by the sodium thiopental) before either of the other two drugs are administered. The pancuronium bromide paralyzes the breathing apparatus and causes suffocation, while the potassium chloride causes severe, painful burning of the nerve endings along the veins and in the heart before heart arrest and death. It is important to note that while the second drug, pancuronium bromide, is not necessary to kill the subject, its paralyzing action prevents body movements that might indicate extraordinary pain and suffering.

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  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #25 - September 26, 2011, 03:40 AM

    Umm, right. Hmm.

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  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #26 - September 26, 2011, 01:30 PM

    As the article in the OP states:

    That last point there shows that the courts decided the burden of proof was on the defense and not on the prosecution, which is basically an ass-backwards way to do "justice".

    From this CBS article:

    Even many of the original jurors when interviewed by the Guardian, questioned their own original decisions.

    One example from the Guardian article:

    There are plenty of cases where the accused's guilt for the crime for which s/he is convicted is not 100% clear and beyond reasonable doubt. One case doesn't have to take attention away from another.


    I was hoping that Cheetah at the very least had a cursory look at the article i posted, as well as doing a little bit of research on his/her part (sorry I'm not sure), but nevertheless thanks for pointing out the obvious.
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #27 - September 26, 2011, 07:50 PM

    I have read it, and I've read other articles on the case too.  At first glance I thought he was innocent, but the ballistics evidence says otherwise.  I can well believe that the cops got over zealous and pressurised witnesses to bolster the case when one of their own was shot, however that doesn't explain why the bullet casings from the two shootings were the same.

    I don't think he should have been executed, but I don't think he was innocent either.

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  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #28 - September 26, 2011, 11:22 PM

    http://truthinjustice.org/new-weapon.htm

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    They're using a February report by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) that concluded that, with the exception of DNA, a number of forensic techniques are unreliable and insufficiently scientific to produce consistent and reliable results. The report cites flawed techniques in fingerprinting, hair and bite-mark analysis, and firearms identification. The report, for instance, found that markings on bullets and shell casings are not unique, which means that one can't prove — beyond a reasonable doubt — that a bullet came from particular gun.


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    Because of the report, Zubel said, "it has come to light that, for a generation, firearms examiners have been going into court and claiming to be able to make fingerprint-style identifications between bullets and guns. The problem with that is: The science does not support that. The conclusion from the National Academy of Sciences is that it's impossible. You can't do that."


    fuck you
  • Re: The Execution Of Troy Davis
     Reply #29 - September 26, 2011, 11:24 PM

    That doesn't surprise me.

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