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 Poll

  • Question: Brits: Do you think a new kind of citizen national service is needed in the UK?
  • Yes - 3 (27.3%)
  • No - 5 (45.5%)
  • Not sure - 3 (27.3%)
  • Total Voters: 11

 Topic: New UK national service

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  • New UK national service
     OP - August 19, 2011, 06:48 PM

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23979661-it-did-me-good-but-national-service-wont-work-now.do

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/terence-blacker/terence-blacker-national-service-is-the-answer-ndash-but-not-as-we-know-it-2340090.html
  • Re: New UK national service
     Reply #1 - August 21, 2011, 05:47 PM

    I put not sure as Im not sure exactly what format they have in mind although I wouldnt be against a kind of community awareness type thing , although knowing politicians it will probably be a patronising, condescening affair that will achieve little

    According to the polls only 1.6 % of Americans are athiests. So what gives you the right to call the other 80% morons?'
  • Re: New UK national service
     Reply #2 - August 21, 2011, 06:09 PM

    How about forming a society that doesn't favor idiocy over intelligence?!
    Life is pretty easy being unemployed in England for alot of people, but work brings about high rent, high tax, rush hour, high transport costs, costly dental/medical etc etc.
    In many cases people can't even find work with pay that would make working a legitimate possibility even when they want to (and as we've seen by some of the possessions of the looters such as blackberries and Burberry, they're clearly not in a situation that requires it anyway)

    Creating a business is also held up with so much pointless and expensive regulation, litigation, red tape and tax that it often becomes pointless, drawn out, too costly or impossible to open one, which limits the availability of work for others and the interests for innovators and entrepreneurs to attempt anything.

    Graduate education is ridiculously over priced, provides very little chance of work (or even work relevant to the qualification or even relevant having the degree at all) and most companies won't even hire people with a long list of other qualifications on the grounds that they worry those people will move on to better things soon enough (ofcourse that entire issue is due to the completely illogical way companies employ people, its f**king disgraceful as to how so many companies can be so collectively moronic at times..).

    We then have a number of other absurd paradoxes such as 'needing 2 years experience to work in ANY part of a sector' (which you can never get because no one will hire you) or needing a car to work before you can afford to have one or lower levels not hiring you in case you leave for better things but the higher levels not hiring you because you don't have lower level experience; such issues often prevent people from working, even when they want to.

    No wonder we have a society with low standards-- theres very little incentive to be anything else, not to mention that alot of people simply have children due to seeing it as another 'paycheck' which only deepens the issue.

    We need societal reform and more regulation of business to remove the idiocy that allows a company to look at a C.V full of qualifications and experience AS A NEGATIVE (for one example among others)
    Perhaps then we could focus on trying to improve people (you know, when a positive for improving people actually turns up).

    In conclusion, its easier to stay down than it is to get up in England, and it seems that society and government are metaphorically prepared to try and kill the ones that do attempt to stand. Remove this issue and you'll remove much of the rest.
  • Re: New UK national service
     Reply #3 - August 21, 2011, 07:01 PM

    May we please have a poll option that says "I'm not sure, but HighOctane should definitely be drafted to serve in combat in Afghanistan or Iraq"? I have a feeling that one would win.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: New UK national service
     Reply #4 - August 22, 2011, 04:48 PM

    How come all the people who say we should bring back national service (such as michael caine) are too old to have to do national service?

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: New UK national service
     Reply #5 - August 22, 2011, 04:54 PM

    We then have a number of other absurd paradoxes such as 'needing 2 years experience to work in ANY part of a sector' (which you can never get because no one will hire you) or needing a car to work before you can afford to have one or lower levels not hiring you in case you leave for better things but the higher levels not hiring you because you don't have lower level experience; such issues often prevent people from working, even when they want to.


    This. Specially the bolded part.

    May we please have a poll option that says "I'm not sure, but HighOctane should definitely be drafted to serve in combat in Afghanistan or Iraq"? I have a feeling that one would win.


    Grin

    07:54 <harakaat>: you must be jema
    07:54 <harakaat>: considering how annoying you are
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